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		<title>By: mikestallard</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2007/11/15/a-guide-to-climate-change-theory/#comment-374</link>
		<dc:creator>mikestallard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 11:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The trouble is that basing anything on &quot;a consensus of scientists&quot; is impossible. Scientists don&#039;t work by consensus, they work by scientific experiment, hypotheses and sceptical doubts. 
I seem to remember a scientist called Galileo at one point..... 
 
Isn&#039;t Prof Carter simply fantastic! 
Thank you all for the websites - I&#039;ve added them to my collection for bedtime reading. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The trouble is that basing anything on &quot;a consensus of scientists&quot; is impossible. Scientists don&#039;t work by consensus, they work by scientific experiment, hypotheses and sceptical doubts.<br />
I seem to remember a scientist called Galileo at one point&#8230;.. </p>
<p>Isn&#039;t Prof Carter simply fantastic!<br />
Thank you all for the websites &#8211; I&#039;ve added them to my collection for bedtime reading.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike H</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 18:42:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having just watched Prof Bob Carter&#039;s lecture I have to say that I found his arguments very convincing. 
 
It is said that a group of five economists will give you at least six or seven different opinions as to what is likely to happen to the economy.  Well, I guess the same must be true of climatologists. 
 
He certainly raises doubts about the validity of the current received wisdom on climate change, and places a major question mark over the stance being taken by the IPCC and our political leaders. 
 
I wonder how long it will be before we are all being exhorted to produce as much CO2 as possible in order to mitigate the effects of the coming ice-age. 
 
I was left thinking that the only thing we can be absolutely sure about is that the climate WILL change, possibly dramatically, in one direction or the other. 
 
Perhaps we should really be preparing ourselves for a world that will just be very different to what we are experiencing now. 
 
Prof Carter&#039;s lecture is on YouTube as four separate segments:- 
  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOLkze-9GcI&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOLkze-9GcI&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vN06JSi-SW8&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vN06JSi-SW8&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCXDISLXTaY&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCXDISLXTaY&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpQQGFZHSno&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpQQGFZHSno&lt;/a&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having just watched Prof Bob Carter&#039;s lecture I have to say that I found his arguments very convincing. </p>
<p>It is said that a group of five economists will give you at least six or seven different opinions as to what is likely to happen to the economy.  Well, I guess the same must be true of climatologists. </p>
<p>He certainly raises doubts about the validity of the current received wisdom on climate change, and places a major question mark over the stance being taken by the IPCC and our political leaders. </p>
<p>I wonder how long it will be before we are all being exhorted to produce as much CO2 as possible in order to mitigate the effects of the coming ice-age. </p>
<p>I was left thinking that the only thing we can be absolutely sure about is that the climate WILL change, possibly dramatically, in one direction or the other. </p>
<p>Perhaps we should really be preparing ourselves for a world that will just be very different to what we are experiencing now. </p>
<p>Prof Carter&#039;s lecture is on YouTube as four separate segments:-<br />
  <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOLkze-9GcI" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOLkze-9GcI</a>  <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vN06JSi-SW8" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vN06JSi-SW8</a>  <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCXDISLXTaY" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCXDISLXTaY</a>  <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpQQGFZHSno" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpQQGFZHSno</a></p>
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		<title>By: Neil Craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 13:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My typing error - it was 1998 not 1988 which previously held the claim to being the &quot;warmest year in the last 1000&quot; before being proven cooler than 1934. 
 
Alarmists here seem to be retreating into their laager shouting &quot;consensus&quot;. Firstly there is no scientific consensus as the Oregon petition of 17,000 scientists opposing warming catastrophism proves, though there certainly is a political &amp; media one. Secondly science does not proceed by defering to authority, that is religion, it actively tries to pull apart theories, using evidence. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My typing error &#8211; it was 1998 not 1988 which previously held the claim to being the &quot;warmest year in the last 1000&quot; before being proven cooler than 1934. </p>
<p>Alarmists here seem to be retreating into their laager shouting &quot;consensus&quot;. Firstly there is no scientific consensus as the Oregon petition of 17,000 scientists opposing warming catastrophism proves, though there certainly is a political &amp; media one. Secondly science does not proceed by defering to authority, that is religion, it actively tries to pull apart theories, using evidence.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith Garrett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith Garrett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 01:58:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So the scientists tell us one thing. The BBC accepts this. Yes there are lots of viewpoints of people who don&#039;t study this. Virtually all of the scientists who do and who have submitted research for peer review agree with the BBC&#039;s views. 
 
I don&#039;t want the BBC to become some extended Any Answers type debate where we have uninformed people shouting at each other. I want informed debate and programming. 
 
You might say that they haven&#039;t educated the public enough about the causes, problems and solutions of climate change but they are not there to give equal voice to the people who disagree with the vast body of scientific knowledge that supports global climate change. To do so would be similar to bringing on the flat earth society each time you spoke to NASA. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So the scientists tell us one thing. The BBC accepts this. Yes there are lots of viewpoints of people who don&#039;t study this. Virtually all of the scientists who do and who have submitted research for peer review agree with the BBC&#039;s views. </p>
<p>I don&#039;t want the BBC to become some extended Any Answers type debate where we have uninformed people shouting at each other. I want informed debate and programming. </p>
<p>You might say that they haven&#039;t educated the public enough about the causes, problems and solutions of climate change but they are not there to give equal voice to the people who disagree with the vast body of scientific knowledge that supports global climate change. To do so would be similar to bringing on the flat earth society each time you spoke to NASA.</p>
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		<title>By: Adrian Windisch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adrian Windisch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 00:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The world looks for leadership, what we get is excuses for doing almost nothing. Excuses are; its not true(despite all the evidence), other countries are doing nothing (someone needs to make a start or nothing will happen) and the classic, its now too late to do anything so why bother! 
 
Despite the rhetoric under Labour, emissions have been going up. Because of Labour, people see green tax as just another stealth tax. It could be a way of using market forces to force efficiency. 
 
Its not rocket science, consider the carbon cost of an action as well as the financial one. Look up carbon calculators to work out your impact, then work to reduce it. No need to live in a cave; start by reducing waste and fly less. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The world looks for leadership, what we get is excuses for doing almost nothing. Excuses are; its not true(despite all the evidence), other countries are doing nothing (someone needs to make a start or nothing will happen) and the classic, its now too late to do anything so why bother! </p>
<p>Despite the rhetoric under Labour, emissions have been going up. Because of Labour, people see green tax as just another stealth tax. It could be a way of using market forces to force efficiency. </p>
<p>Its not rocket science, consider the carbon cost of an action as well as the financial one. Look up carbon calculators to work out your impact, then work to reduce it. No need to live in a cave; start by reducing waste and fly less.</p>
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		<title>By: schober</title>
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		<dc:creator>schober</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:00:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;1. The world is warming up
2. This is caused by the human element in CO2 production, which is increasing.&quot;

it should be emphasised that these are merely hypotheses; they are not established fact. Indeed the supporting evidence is weak and there is a growing body  of evidence contradicting these ideas.  Why anyone wfould base economic policy on such tenuous propositions beggars belief. Unfortunately our leaders in the 3 main parties and in the eu have failed to do their due diligence, again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;1. The world is warming up<br />
2. This is caused by the human element in CO2 production, which is increasing.&#8221;</p>
<p>it should be emphasised that these are merely hypotheses; they are not established fact. Indeed the supporting evidence is weak and there is a growing body  of evidence contradicting these ideas.  Why anyone wfould base economic policy on such tenuous propositions beggars belief. Unfortunately our leaders in the 3 main parties and in the eu have failed to do their due diligence, again!</p>
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		<title>By: Neil Craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;1. The world is warming up&quot; Depends on your time scale but the recent proof, by Stephen McIntyre, that the alarmists had got it wrong &amp; that, at least in US territory, 1934 was warmer than 1988 (which in any case has long been accepted as warmer than all subsequent years) means that we do not face catastrophic warming &amp; perhpas none at all. 
 
&quot;2. This is caused by the human element in CO2 production, which is increasing.&quot; - the first part is unproven, particularly since only 3% of CO2 is manmade. It is however certainly the fact that CO2 is increasing. This makes plants grow faster but may have some negative effects to &amp; does deserve study. 
 
&quot;3. There has to be a substantial reduction in human CO2 production to save the planet.&quot; is unjustified by any evidence. Current temperatures are less than in the Medieval Warming Period &amp; significantly less than the Late Roman warming. There are also a number of technological solutions which we could do now for far less than the </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;1. The world is warming up&quot; Depends on your time scale but the recent proof, by Stephen McIntyre, that the alarmists had got it wrong &amp; that, at least in US territory, 1934 was warmer than 1988 (which in any case has long been accepted as warmer than all subsequent years) means that we do not face catastrophic warming &amp; perhpas none at all. </p>
<p>&quot;2. This is caused by the human element in CO2 production, which is increasing.&quot; &#8211; the first part is unproven, particularly since only 3% of CO2 is manmade. It is however certainly the fact that CO2 is increasing. This makes plants grow faster but may have some negative effects to &amp; does deserve study. </p>
<p>&quot;3. There has to be a substantial reduction in human CO2 production to save the planet.&quot; is unjustified by any evidence. Current temperatures are less than in the Medieval Warming Period &amp; significantly less than the Late Roman warming. There are also a number of technological solutions which we could do now for far less than the</p>
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		<title>By: John Gartside</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Gartside</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:26:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have seen or read practically nothing on Global Warming which convinces me that the author has a grasp of anything beyond elementary English vocabulary and syntax. 
 
Bob Carter, as his name implies, is a no nonsense sort of a chap and his scientific presentation is well worth the 37 minute time investment for those who had been frustrated in their desire to understand this issue before having their own opinion. 
  &lt;a href=&quot;http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2007/11/04/global-warming-tutorial-media-should-be-required-watch&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2007/1...&lt;/a&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have seen or read practically nothing on Global Warming which convinces me that the author has a grasp of anything beyond elementary English vocabulary and syntax. </p>
<p>Bob Carter, as his name implies, is a no nonsense sort of a chap and his scientific presentation is well worth the 37 minute time investment for those who had been frustrated in their desire to understand this issue before having their own opinion.<br />
  <a href="http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2007/11/04/global-warming-tutorial-media-should-be-required-watch" rel="nofollow">http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2007/1&#8230;</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dave Bartlett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Bartlett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:22:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting article in The Register today. 
  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/11/15/ocean_currents_melt_planet/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/11/15/ocean_cur...&lt;/a&gt; 
 
&quot;Recent dramatic changes in the Arctic climate - melting sea ice, warmer ocean, green fields in place of icy wilderness, etc - might not all be directly related to global warming. 
The more clement Arctic climate of recent years could have been triggered by shorter term circulation changes in the oceans and atmosphere. 
 
According to a team of NASA scientists, decade-long variations in ocean circulation, known as the Arctic Oscillation, have an effect on the oceans&#039; salinity. A very salty sea is heavier and circulates differently than a less salty one, the team says. This can affect the temperature of the water in the region and thus the local climate.&quot; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting article in The Register today.<br />
  <a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/11/15/ocean_currents_melt_planet/" rel="nofollow">http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/11/15/ocean_cur&#8230;</a> </p>
<p>&quot;Recent dramatic changes in the Arctic climate &#8211; melting sea ice, warmer ocean, green fields in place of icy wilderness, etc &#8211; might not all be directly related to global warming.<br />
The more clement Arctic climate of recent years could have been triggered by shorter term circulation changes in the oceans and atmosphere. </p>
<p>According to a team of NASA scientists, decade-long variations in ocean circulation, known as the Arctic Oscillation, have an effect on the oceans&#039; salinity. A very salty sea is heavier and circulates differently than a less salty one, the team says. This can affect the temperature of the water in the region and thus the local climate.&quot;</p>
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		<title>By: David Holland</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Holland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I may add to my earlier comment, there is a very simple common sense reason why we should all be very wary of the latest IPCC report.  It lies in the logic of their argument. The Summary for Policymakers says on page 9, Palaeoclimatic information supports the interpretation that the warmth of the last half century is unusual in at least the previous 1,300 years. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I may add to my earlier comment, there is a very simple common sense reason why we should all be very wary of the latest IPCC report.  It lies in the logic of their argument. The Summary for Policymakers says on page 9, Palaeoclimatic information supports the interpretation that the warmth of the last half century is unusual in at least the previous 1,300 years.</p>
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