Comments on: Labour’s rubbish policy sums up what went wrong for them – and us http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/05/02/labours-rubbish-policy-sums-up-what-went-wrong-for-them-and-us/ Incisive and topical campaigns and commentary on today's issues and tomorrow's problems Thu, 09 Feb 2012 20:05:58 +0000 hourly 1 By: Steven Whitfield http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/05/02/labours-rubbish-policy-sums-up-what-went-wrong-for-them-and-us/#comment-2965 Steven Whitfield Thu, 08 May 2008 02:13:29 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=1044#comment-2965 In the 1970's Denis Healey pledged to 'tax the rich until the pips squeek'. Thirty years later a tax hungry Gordon Brown tried to do the same to the poor. Labour have always believed that all money belongs to them to be redistrubted as it sees fit. This belief is ofcourse, fundamentally wrong and always leads to the self destruction of labour governments. In the 1970's Denis Healey pledged to 'tax the rich until the pips squeek'. Thirty years later a tax hungry Gordon Brown tried to do the same to the poor. Labour have always believed that all money belongs to them to be redistrubted as it sees fit.
This belief is ofcourse, fundamentally wrong and always leads to the self destruction of labour governments.

]]> By: Drew Belobaba http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/05/02/labours-rubbish-policy-sums-up-what-went-wrong-for-them-and-us/#comment-2964 Drew Belobaba Tue, 06 May 2008 14:41:41 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=1044#comment-2964 Dear. Mr. Redwood, You are correct to note that the Labour's rubbish policy is inspired by rules set by the European Union. So, if by chance the Conservatives form the government in Westminster after the next general election, what will they do to restore weekly bin collections? Will they negotiate an exemption from the EU's Landfill Directive? Will they renegotiate our terms of membership with the EU. Or will they come up with new excuses for why these unpopular polices must be shoved down the throats of the public? I note that Tory-controlled County Councils such as Surrey's and East Sussex's are rushing through the construction of unpopular waste incinerators in order to meet the requirement's of the Landfill Directive. It is fine to criticize Labour for implementing these polices, but how will a Tory government meet the recycling targets set out in the Landfill Directive? Reply: I want this to be part of the renegotiation we will need. We await the Manifesto. Dear. Mr. Redwood,

You are correct to note that the Labour's rubbish policy is inspired by rules set by the European Union. So, if by chance the Conservatives form the government in Westminster after the next general election, what will they do to restore weekly bin collections? Will they negotiate an exemption from the EU's Landfill Directive? Will they renegotiate our terms of membership with the EU. Or will they come up with new excuses for why these unpopular polices must be shoved down the throats of the public?

I note that Tory-controlled County Councils such as Surrey's and East Sussex's are rushing through the construction of unpopular waste incinerators in order to meet the requirement's of the Landfill Directive.

It is fine to criticize Labour for implementing these polices, but how will a Tory government meet the recycling targets set out in the Landfill Directive?

Reply: I want this to be part of the renegotiation we will need. We await the Manifesto.

]]> By: Pete http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/05/02/labours-rubbish-policy-sums-up-what-went-wrong-for-them-and-us/#comment-2963 Pete Mon, 05 May 2008 14:01:30 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=1044#comment-2963 'The Tories under Cameron (the heir to Blair) are virtually indistinguishable from New Lab. Until they put forward solid policies that will reverse Labour’s damage….' Why put forward policies now and let Labour nick them? (ie copy them very badly.) Surely a broad brush is what's needed until much nearer the next General Election, then we can show what we're made of. In the meantime let the councils show how Conservatives can improve things locally and give the electorate even more of a taste for change. 'The Tories under Cameron (the heir to Blair) are virtually indistinguishable from New Lab. Until they put forward solid policies that will reverse Labour’s damage….'

Why put forward policies now and let Labour nick them? (ie copy them very badly.)

Surely a broad brush is what's needed until much nearer the next General Election, then we can show what we're made of.

In the meantime let the councils show how Conservatives can improve things locally and give the electorate even more of a taste for change.

]]> By: James Stephenson http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/05/02/labours-rubbish-policy-sums-up-what-went-wrong-for-them-and-us/#comment-2962 James Stephenson Sat, 03 May 2008 07:34:00 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=1044#comment-2962 The Tories under Cameron (the heir to Blair) are virtually indistinguishable from New Lab. Until they put forward solid policies that will reverse Labour's damage.... And previous commenters are correct - party politics are meaningless in the face of the power-crazy Hitlers in Brussels who are set upon 'dismantling the old borders' to usher in a Super State by the back door. Anyone who will take us out of the European Integration will get my vote. Anyone who will take control of our borders will get my vote. The Tories under Cameron (the heir to Blair) are virtually indistinguishable from New Lab. Until they put forward solid policies that will reverse Labour's damage….

And previous commenters are correct – party politics are meaningless in the face of the power-crazy Hitlers in Brussels who are set upon 'dismantling the old borders' to usher in a Super State by the back door. Anyone who will take us out of the European Integration will get my vote. Anyone who will take control of our borders will get my vote.

]]> By: James Stephenson http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/05/02/labours-rubbish-policy-sums-up-what-went-wrong-for-them-and-us/#comment-2961 James Stephenson Sat, 03 May 2008 07:31:08 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=1044#comment-2961 The Tories under Cameron (the heir to Blair) are virtually indistinguishable from New Lab. Until they put forward solid policies that will reverse Labour's damage.... And previous commenters are correct - party politics are meaningless in the face of the power-crazy Hitlers in the in Brussels who are set upon 'dismantling the old borders' to usher in a Super State by the back door. Anyone who will take us out of the European Integration will get mmy vote. Anyone who will take control of our borders will get my vote. The Tories under Cameron (the heir to Blair) are virtually indistinguishable from New Lab. Until they put forward solid policies that will reverse Labour's damage….

And previous commenters are correct – party politics are meaningless in the face of the power-crazy Hitlers in the in Brussels who are set upon 'dismantling the old borders' to usher in a Super State by the back door. Anyone who will take us out of the European Integration will get mmy vote. Anyone who will take control of our borders will get my vote.

]]> By: Jonathan Robson http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/05/02/labours-rubbish-policy-sums-up-what-went-wrong-for-them-and-us/#comment-2960 Jonathan Robson Sat, 03 May 2008 00:14:15 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=1044#comment-2960 "Unfortunately my local Conservative council is also intent on introducing alternate weekly collections. Why are they blindly following this rubbish policy?" Correct me if I'm wrong - but don't local councils have to enforce the diktats imposed on them from central government (and Brussels)? “Unfortunately my local Conservative council is also intent on introducing alternate weekly collections.
Why are they blindly following this rubbish policy?”

Correct me if I’m wrong – but don’t local councils have to enforce the diktats imposed on them from central government (and Brussels)?

]]> By: Simon http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/05/02/labours-rubbish-policy-sums-up-what-went-wrong-for-them-and-us/#comment-2959 Simon Fri, 02 May 2008 20:42:49 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=1044#comment-2959 Our Tory council (Medway) has just purchased a Smart Car with video cameras mounted on the roof (same as the ones Livingstone uses for spying on us in London). It is used for dishing out parking tickets and has been pictured in the local paper parked on double yellow lines while the occupants issue tickets. The point being that all local councils have got this sort of Stasi mentality, spying and penalising and generally being unpleasant. Perhaps someone senior in the Conservative Party could have a word in the appropriate ear. I thought David Cameron and the Tories were against this sort of Gestapo type behaviour. Our Tory council (Medway) has just purchased a Smart Car with video cameras mounted on the roof (same as the ones Livingstone uses for spying on us in London). It is used for dishing out parking tickets and has been pictured in the local paper parked on double yellow lines while the occupants issue tickets. The point being that all local councils have got this sort of Stasi mentality, spying and penalising and generally being unpleasant. Perhaps someone senior in the Conservative Party could have a word in the appropriate ear. I thought David Cameron and the Tories were against this sort of Gestapo type behaviour.

]]> By: R.Rowan http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/05/02/labours-rubbish-policy-sums-up-what-went-wrong-for-them-and-us/#comment-2958 R.Rowan Fri, 02 May 2008 19:23:27 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=1044#comment-2958 well said Mr Redwood I hope Mr Cameron see's it the same way. well said Mr Redwood I hope Mr Cameron see's it the same way.

]]> By: Tim Almond http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/05/02/labours-rubbish-policy-sums-up-what-went-wrong-for-them-and-us/#comment-2957 Tim Almond Fri, 02 May 2008 18:45:39 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=1044#comment-2957 Excellent. When can we expect this from the Conservatives? Excellent. When can we expect this from the Conservatives?

]]> By: Confused http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/05/02/labours-rubbish-policy-sums-up-what-went-wrong-for-them-and-us/#comment-2956 Confused Fri, 02 May 2008 18:03:25 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=1044#comment-2956 Why does 'the State', in all its manifestations, local and national, seem hell-bent on treating me as 'the enemy'? I am genuinely curious. I see a mass of poorly conceived legislation which creates scores of new criminal offences; the stripping away of traditional civil liberties; the overt politicisation of the police; the bullying behaviour of intrusive and aggressive officialdom; the almost constant surveillance; the prospect of having to carry and provide ID cards. Is it simply the (perhaps all too convenient) threat of terrorism? Why does 'the State', in all its manifestations, local and national, seem hell-bent on treating me as 'the enemy'?

I am genuinely curious.

I see a mass of poorly conceived legislation which creates scores of new criminal offences; the stripping away of traditional civil liberties; the overt politicisation of the police; the bullying behaviour of intrusive and aggressive officialdom; the almost constant surveillance; the prospect of having to carry and provide ID cards.

Is it simply the (perhaps all too convenient) threat of terrorism?

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