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		<title>By: jane</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/05/11/who-will-deliver-gordon-from-these-turbulent-memoirs/#comment-3207</link>
		<dc:creator>jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 12:38:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not surprised that the past has come back to haunt Gordon Brown.  He has always felt that he should have been PM and for years he has sulked, manipulated others and tried to destabilise Tony Blair&#039;s premiership. He most certainly used his authority over other cabinet ministers by being in control over department&#039;s spending powers.  I also agree that he should have widened his experience by moving from the treasury.  Anthony Seldon in Blair Unbound writes that his removal from the Treasury was considered but Tony Blair was frightened of the damage he would have caused  from the back benches. Think of his plotting from within the Cabinet.  I am convinced he was complicit in the coup to remove Tony Blair.  Of course he is too clever - &quot;get on with it but keep my name out of it&quot;. 
 
Somehow though it is not in his character  to move from the Treaury as he would have lost his power over other colleagues.   Cherie was right to defend her husband - she was aware what was going on.  I think she has behaved impeccably -I know I would have been more scathing of my husband&#039;s enemy.  She is also right to say that her husband was more suited to the top job.  I believe that she has had a rotten press particularly from the Daily Mail and many female journalists who write for the tabloid press.  Her superior intelligence is obviously a threat to many. 
 
I am bewildered that two people can apparently do a deal to hand over power.  Where do the PLP and members of a political party stand in the handover? 
 
It is amusing.  The person who has craved power for so long, who has prepared for the role, who has led us to believe that he was the superior person in the Government is making a mess of the leadership.  Just deserts perhaps? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not surprised that the past has come back to haunt Gordon Brown.  He has always felt that he should have been PM and for years he has sulked, manipulated others and tried to destabilise Tony Blair&#039;s premiership. He most certainly used his authority over other cabinet ministers by being in control over department&#039;s spending powers.  I also agree that he should have widened his experience by moving from the treasury.  Anthony Seldon in Blair Unbound writes that his removal from the Treasury was considered but Tony Blair was frightened of the damage he would have caused  from the back benches. Think of his plotting from within the Cabinet.  I am convinced he was complicit in the coup to remove Tony Blair.  Of course he is too clever &#8211; &quot;get on with it but keep my name out of it&quot;. </p>
<p>Somehow though it is not in his character  to move from the Treaury as he would have lost his power over other colleagues.   Cherie was right to defend her husband &#8211; she was aware what was going on.  I think she has behaved impeccably -I know I would have been more scathing of my husband&#039;s enemy.  She is also right to say that her husband was more suited to the top job.  I believe that she has had a rotten press particularly from the Daily Mail and many female journalists who write for the tabloid press.  Her superior intelligence is obviously a threat to many. </p>
<p>I am bewildered that two people can apparently do a deal to hand over power.  Where do the PLP and members of a political party stand in the handover? </p>
<p>It is amusing.  The person who has craved power for so long, who has prepared for the role, who has led us to believe that he was the superior person in the Government is making a mess of the leadership.  Just deserts perhaps?</p>
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		<title>By: Rose</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 10:12:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John (1), did you hear Nick Jones confessing he had been bullied by the spin doctors into writing for years what they wanted him to write in the Telegraph? Of course we all knew it was spin, and that the Telegraph was in Brown&#039;s pocket just like all the rest of them, but it was interesting to hear the deafening silence across the media that greeted this unusually candid confession. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John (1), did you hear Nick Jones confessing he had been bullied by the spin doctors into writing for years what they wanted him to write in the Telegraph? Of course we all knew it was spin, and that the Telegraph was in Brown&#039;s pocket just like all the rest of them, but it was interesting to hear the deafening silence across the media that greeted this unusually candid confession.</p>
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		<title>By: Rose</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 09:56:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our Pauline and her Paul have emerged by far the best-looking and best-behaved pair in this opera.  It is worth remembering another pair: Lord Rosebery was lucky enough to have a Chancellor of the Exchequer in his administration (Sir William Harcourt), but they too had to use a John (Irish Secretary Morley) as go-between, because for the entire period they were running the country they never spoke. Ego again, not principle. And what happened next? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our Pauline and her Paul have emerged by far the best-looking and best-behaved pair in this opera.  It is worth remembering another pair: Lord Rosebery was lucky enough to have a Chancellor of the Exchequer in his administration (Sir William Harcourt), but they too had to use a John (Irish Secretary Morley) as go-between, because for the entire period they were running the country they never spoke. Ego again, not principle. And what happened next?</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 20:47:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do we really have to put up with this constant barrage against Brown for the next two years? 
As much as I enjoy it, I really wish the guy would just do everyone a favour and quit. 
Failing that, can&#039;t you organize  an overthrow or coup d&#039;etat John? 
WE did not vote HIM in. 
 
Reply: I think it is unlikely he will be forced out - Labour cannot agree on a successor, and they need around 70 names demanding a contest. He is unlikely to leave of his own volition. I think it best to assume he stays for the 2 years. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do we really have to put up with this constant barrage against Brown for the next two years?<br />
As much as I enjoy it, I really wish the guy would just do everyone a favour and quit.<br />
Failing that, can&#039;t you organize  an overthrow or coup d&#039;etat John?<br />
WE did not vote HIM in. </p>
<p>Reply: I think it is unlikely he will be forced out &#8211; Labour cannot agree on a successor, and they need around 70 names demanding a contest. He is unlikely to leave of his own volition. I think it best to assume he stays for the 2 years.</p>
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		<title>By: mike stallard</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike stallard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 18:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whatever people think about Gordon Brown, this act of betrayal disgusts me. 
There are certain things that friends and colleagues should not talk about. 
Cherie&#039;s upbringing (words left out) should have warned her that certain subjects are better left behind closed doors. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatever people think about Gordon Brown, this act of betrayal disgusts me.<br />
There are certain things that friends and colleagues should not talk about.<br />
Cherie&#039;s upbringing (words left out) should have warned her that certain subjects are better left behind closed doors.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 17:04:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;John Prescott has confirmed ... Gordon Brown did want the top job&quot; - 
 
No! Really! Stone the crows - did he really??? Who&#039;d have thunk it? 
 
Redwood has succumbed to the professional politician&#039;s disease, believing that everyone outside Westeminster is a complete idiot. We&#039;ve known all this stuff for many years, and have been yawning about it for most of that time. Only media hacks and MPs, living on some planet Zog, think that the rest of us could care less about this old nonsense. 
 
Reply: Certainly not. Of course I and you have known it for years, and I have often said as much. The point I was making was that the spin machiens nonetheless from time to time managed to get the media to run the opposite story, that Blair and Brown were great buddies, as they all said on the record. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;John Prescott has confirmed &#8230; Gordon Brown did want the top job&quot; &#8211; </p>
<p>No! Really! Stone the crows &#8211; did he really??? Who&#039;d have thunk it? </p>
<p>Redwood has succumbed to the professional politician&#039;s disease, believing that everyone outside Westeminster is a complete idiot. We&#039;ve known all this stuff for many years, and have been yawning about it for most of that time. Only media hacks and MPs, living on some planet Zog, think that the rest of us could care less about this old nonsense. </p>
<p>Reply: Certainly not. Of course I and you have known it for years, and I have often said as much. The point I was making was that the spin machiens nonetheless from time to time managed to get the media to run the opposite story, that Blair and Brown were great buddies, as they all said on the record.</p>
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		<title>By: [[NAME EDITED]]</title>
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		<dc:creator>[[NAME EDITED]]</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 15:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wonderful! Let them all (destroy - ed) each other. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonderful! Let them all (destroy &#8211; ed) each other.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Makara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony Makara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 09:20:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Proof if needed that the Labour government has always been a government at war with itself. This I believe is largely because the Labour party has been on unnatural territory and many long to return to the clause four era. No-one can live a lie forever but living a lie is a lot easier when things are going well. Now that were are witness to the dying embers of the Labour government we see all the old animosities that were swept under the carpet in the time of swaggering electoral victories are now out in the open, like a gaping bloody wound. I have a friend who is a lifelong Labour activist and we spoke at length about the 10p tax fiasco, which she admitted was a complete act of villany against the poor. However the most interesting thing she said about the whole row was that it gave Frank Field a golden opportunity to pay Gordon Brown back and in her mind the row was more about Frank Versus Gordon than about holding the government to account. One thing is for sure, the Labour party is now in a period of open bloodletting, where this will end we can only guess? but we should not be surprised if Gordon Brown eventually becomes the slaughtered sacrificial lamb </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Proof if needed that the Labour government has always been a government at war with itself. This I believe is largely because the Labour party has been on unnatural territory and many long to return to the clause four era. No-one can live a lie forever but living a lie is a lot easier when things are going well. Now that were are witness to the dying embers of the Labour government we see all the old animosities that were swept under the carpet in the time of swaggering electoral victories are now out in the open, like a gaping bloody wound. I have a friend who is a lifelong Labour activist and we spoke at length about the 10p tax fiasco, which she admitted was a complete act of villany against the poor. However the most interesting thing she said about the whole row was that it gave Frank Field a golden opportunity to pay Gordon Brown back and in her mind the row was more about Frank Versus Gordon than about holding the government to account. One thing is for sure, the Labour party is now in a period of open bloodletting, where this will end we can only guess? but we should not be surprised if Gordon Brown eventually becomes the slaughtered sacrificial lamb</p>
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