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		<title>By: STAN FRANCIS(BROMSGR</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/06/12/david-davis-what-a-stand/#comment-3987</link>
		<dc:creator>STAN FRANCIS(BROMSGR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 09:10:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>..well now, there was no chance TAKEN was there in effect with our Mr Davis, I REALLY WANTED TO BELIEVE, but we knew it, he knew it, CAMERON KNEW IT!...So have changed my mind about him as I said I possibly would, a big cherade that&#039;s really seen what I didn&#039;t want to see and that is, the man along with the rest is as transparent as my grandsons&#039; paper planes. 
Again I say to you John and I know it&#039;s wasted, but here goes, why can&#039;t we have a contract between the people and the gov&#039;t, is it because the gov&#039;t is run by big businessmen and the NEW ORDER that everyone is talking about is now really here AND PEOPLE ARE NOW LOOKED AT AS BEING A NUMBER, it&#039;s arrived and will be &#039;full blown&#039; when Tories get back in?...the right wing antics of labour have cost us heavily in taxing everything and this weekend we see that women&#039;s bra&#039;s now have a tax on them?...keep up John?...Enter Tory, well Labour&#039;s left us with a massive hole and sorry but it&#039;ll be hard for a while whilst we get these...No John, I won&#039;t go along with that old line at all. I would rather you said, what you thought wasn&#039;t going to happen, now has, we&#039;ll tax you even more, you will sell your houses to the money men that run the EU and Central gov&#039;t and you will rent them...your car will be no longer, for you will use public transport and all &#039;EXTRA&#039; taxes we want from you will be taken at sourse, we will assess how much you need to live on so you don&#039;t waste any more food, your medical attendtion will be via clinics on a conveyor belt system, children will no longer just appear, you will go on drugs to stop pregnances and you can then apply to come off them for a child we will sanction when we feel the population needs topping up, this way we keep the world in order, called THE NEW WORLD ORDER!...and not one person is responsible for this John, we all are, for we have gone along with it till it got to this state, the EU carried it along effortlessly, the name EU was just an adjective....what&#039;s next John?..anarchy, but we have a special force to contend with that now don&#039;t we, 600 Police in London a few months ago was mustered to sort out drug pushers/sellers, prostitutes, murderers etc, all with combat outfits on, but when you want a copper yourself, you get a reference number instead! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>..well now, there was no chance TAKEN was there in effect with our Mr Davis, I REALLY WANTED TO BELIEVE, but we knew it, he knew it, CAMERON KNEW IT!&#8230;So have changed my mind about him as I said I possibly would, a big cherade that&#039;s really seen what I didn&#039;t want to see and that is, the man along with the rest is as transparent as my grandsons&#039; paper planes.<br />
Again I say to you John and I know it&#039;s wasted, but here goes, why can&#039;t we have a contract between the people and the gov&#039;t, is it because the gov&#039;t is run by big businessmen and the NEW ORDER that everyone is talking about is now really here AND PEOPLE ARE NOW LOOKED AT AS BEING A NUMBER, it&#039;s arrived and will be &#039;full blown&#039; when Tories get back in?&#8230;the right wing antics of labour have cost us heavily in taxing everything and this weekend we see that women&#039;s bra&#039;s now have a tax on them?&#8230;keep up John?&#8230;Enter Tory, well Labour&#039;s left us with a massive hole and sorry but it&#039;ll be hard for a while whilst we get these&#8230;No John, I won&#039;t go along with that old line at all. I would rather you said, what you thought wasn&#039;t going to happen, now has, we&#039;ll tax you even more, you will sell your houses to the money men that run the EU and Central gov&#039;t and you will rent them&#8230;your car will be no longer, for you will use public transport and all &#039;EXTRA&#039; taxes we want from you will be taken at sourse, we will assess how much you need to live on so you don&#039;t waste any more food, your medical attendtion will be via clinics on a conveyor belt system, children will no longer just appear, you will go on drugs to stop pregnances and you can then apply to come off them for a child we will sanction when we feel the population needs topping up, this way we keep the world in order, called THE NEW WORLD ORDER!&#8230;and not one person is responsible for this John, we all are, for we have gone along with it till it got to this state, the EU carried it along effortlessly, the name EU was just an adjective&#8230;.what&#039;s next John?..anarchy, but we have a special force to contend with that now don&#039;t we, 600 Police in London a few months ago was mustered to sort out drug pushers/sellers, prostitutes, murderers etc, all with combat outfits on, but when you want a copper yourself, you get a reference number instead! </p>
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		<dc:creator>August 8, 1974 v. July 9, 2008 - CommonDreams.org</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Duncan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duncan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 10:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ref my comment awaiting moderation 07Jul 2008 at 10:43 am 
Please delete &quot;this odious&quot; and insert &quot;these odious&quot; </description>
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		<title>By: Duncan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duncan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 10:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The erosion of our laws started when the last  Conservative government enacted a law that made it possible to confiscate 
the financial assets of people who could not prove that those assets were acquired legally. Assumption of  innocence was  no longer a pillar of the law. The same adminstration looked on and did nothing when demonstrators, witnessed by police and public, advocated the murder of Salman Rushdie. 
The rot did not start with this odious New Labour control freaks! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The erosion of our laws started when the last  Conservative government enacted a law that made it possible to confiscate<br />
the financial assets of people who could not prove that those assets were acquired legally. Assumption of  innocence was  no longer a pillar of the law. The same adminstration looked on and did nothing when demonstrators, witnessed by police and public, advocated the murder of Salman Rushdie.<br />
The rot did not start with this odious New Labour control freaks! </p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 09:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Up unil recentlu I was going to vote Conservative but given the attitude displayed to David on such an important issue, it demonstrates once again the shallowness of many of our Parliementary memebrs. They appear totally intolerant of accepting that we are all born with free will and it&#039;s healthy to display it and fight for it. 
 
I for one thank David for giving me heart when I was so tired of the way my liberties are being eroded - legislation is ruining our Society. What we are now left are teh young pushing at the edge of the envelope because of the Government wanting to turn all of us into obediant robots. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Up unil recentlu I was going to vote Conservative but given the attitude displayed to David on such an important issue, it demonstrates once again the shallowness of many of our Parliementary memebrs. They appear totally intolerant of accepting that we are all born with free will and it&#039;s healthy to display it and fight for it. </p>
<p>I for one thank David for giving me heart when I was so tired of the way my liberties are being eroded &#8211; legislation is ruining our Society. What we are now left are teh young pushing at the edge of the envelope because of the Government wanting to turn all of us into obediant robots. </p>
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		<title>By: STAN FRANCIS(BROMSGR</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/06/12/david-davis-what-a-stand/#comment-3982</link>
		<dc:creator>STAN FRANCIS(BROMSGR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 09:46:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...me too John, but will be watching this guy Davis now, always supported him from afar..Scepticity? Yes!....have been a local candidate many times and always wait for the &#039;punch line&#039; , so let&#039;s see what DOES come out in the wash then?..and single issues?..well this single issue has caused controversy more than all Cameron&#039;s electioneering stunts has it not, this single issue is not single anyway, it contains the very fundamental basic framework of where we must now start again from after Labour&#039;s concerted debacle of society in this country, history shows the very reason we go into battle is to get better than we went in with, the battle now is getting Labour out... for the people about to take charge in years to come that&#039;s on the way up, scare me!..further, Davis must elucidate further, he&#039;s created the basis of taking over, we now want to know the rest....a lettle pinky in the water is not enough for me! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;me too John, but will be watching this guy Davis now, always supported him from afar..Scepticity? Yes!&#8230;.have been a local candidate many times and always wait for the &#039;punch line&#039; , so let&#039;s see what DOES come out in the wash then?..and single issues?..well this single issue has caused controversy more than all Cameron&#039;s electioneering stunts has it not, this single issue is not single anyway, it contains the very fundamental basic framework of where we must now start again from after Labour&#039;s concerted debacle of society in this country, history shows the very reason we go into battle is to get better than we went in with, the battle now is getting Labour out&#8230; for the people about to take charge in years to come that&#039;s on the way up, scare me!..further, Davis must elucidate further, he&#039;s created the basis of taking over, we now want to know the rest&#8230;.a lettle pinky in the water is not enough for me! </p>
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		<title>By: STAN FRANCIS(BROMSGR</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/06/12/david-davis-what-a-stand/#comment-3981</link>
		<dc:creator>STAN FRANCIS(BROMSGR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 07:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David Cameron beat Mr Davis to the Tory leadership in 2005, fact!. And now Cameron has wished his colleague well on his &#226;&#8364;&#732;brave issue of Freedoms&#226;&#8364;&#8482; but also warned him he is taking a huge risk. John that was the statement put out, but you say Davis has Cameron&#226;&#8364;&#8482;s backing, so where&#226;&#8364;&#8482;s the risk then?..if Cameron backs him it&#226;&#8364;&#8482;s a shared risk surely on the ensueing general election?..no that&#226;&#8364;&#8482;s not the risk he&#226;&#8364;&#8482;s taking about because Davis would get elected on this one issue alone tomorrow. So what other risk is there that Cameron warns Davis of??..the only risk is not getting elected again which he is of course odds on favourite on him being re-elected?..Problem is John, knee jerk reactions when it&#226;&#8364;&#8482;s a wrong reaction, has a habit of making you look a fool and an even bigger fool when you try to creep out of with the old clich&#195;&#169;&#226;&#8364;&#8482;--- I didn&#226;&#8364;&#8482;t mean that at all?..But Cameron is surely taking the risk in that knee jerk reaction and now wobbling over it, same as the other issues he&#226;&#8364;&#8482;s tried to court the voter on..we don&#226;&#8364;&#8482;t want a ditherer as a Prime minister John, we already have one..DAVIS IS OUR MAN, unless he&#226;&#8364;&#8482;s another magician/charlaton and we&#226;&#8364;&#8482;ve seen plenty of those in our past?..you cannot trust anyone these days, not even the church that says one thing and does another for their own purposes and not that of the people. For the people and by the people, what happened along the line where this was forgotten and only brought up as an anachronism. 
 
Reply: David Cameron is just stating the obvious, that holding a by-election on a single issue is a risk, as the main candidate cannot control events, the other candidates or the voters! I still wish David well and expect to see him returned successfully by electors who know he is a good MP. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Cameron beat Mr Davis to the Tory leadership in 2005, fact!. And now Cameron has wished his colleague well on his &acirc;&euro;&tilde;brave issue of Freedoms&acirc;&euro;&trade; but also warned him he is taking a huge risk. John that was the statement put out, but you say Davis has Cameron&acirc;&euro;&trade;s backing, so where&acirc;&euro;&trade;s the risk then?..if Cameron backs him it&acirc;&euro;&trade;s a shared risk surely on the ensueing general election?..no that&acirc;&euro;&trade;s not the risk he&acirc;&euro;&trade;s taking about because Davis would get elected on this one issue alone tomorrow. So what other risk is there that Cameron warns Davis of??..the only risk is not getting elected again which he is of course odds on favourite on him being re-elected?..Problem is John, knee jerk reactions when it&acirc;&euro;&trade;s a wrong reaction, has a habit of making you look a fool and an even bigger fool when you try to creep out of with the old clich&Atilde;&copy;&acirc;&euro;&trade;&#8212; I didn&acirc;&euro;&trade;t mean that at all?..But Cameron is surely taking the risk in that knee jerk reaction and now wobbling over it, same as the other issues he&acirc;&euro;&trade;s tried to court the voter on..we don&acirc;&euro;&trade;t want a ditherer as a Prime minister John, we already have one..DAVIS IS OUR MAN, unless he&acirc;&euro;&trade;s another magician/charlaton and we&acirc;&euro;&trade;ve seen plenty of those in our past?..you cannot trust anyone these days, not even the church that says one thing and does another for their own purposes and not that of the people. For the people and by the people, what happened along the line where this was forgotten and only brought up as an anachronism. </p>
<p>Reply: David Cameron is just stating the obvious, that holding a by-election on a single issue is a risk, as the main candidate cannot control events, the other candidates or the voters! I still wish David well and expect to see him returned successfully by electors who know he is a good MP. </p>
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		<title>By: Richard Palmer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Palmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 13:23:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John, 
 
Couldn&#039;t find David&#039;s email or website but just want to add my support to his campaign against our liberty. I really believe that the powers to be and the media have underestimated the swell of concern about the slow erosion of our hard earned rights. 
 
all the best 
 
 
Richard </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, </p>
<p>Couldn&#039;t find David&#039;s email or website but just want to add my support to his campaign against our liberty. I really believe that the powers to be and the media have underestimated the swell of concern about the slow erosion of our hard earned rights. </p>
<p>all the best </p>
<p>Richard </p>
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		<title>By: Nick Millward</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/06/12/david-davis-what-a-stand/#comment-3979</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Millward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 12:31:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David Davis has demonstrated that honourble quality in politicians that many people thought had disappeared long ago and in doing so has restored faith that Westminster is not run by a PR spin machine. We are used to seeing politicians resigning from positions having clung on by their fingertips, only for the tabloids to finally claim their scalp, after which the minster will return to his job within 6 months. 
 
I hope David David wins his by-election and going by the popular support from the public at large, I have little doubt that he will do. If and when he does go back to the commons, I hope David Cameron will restore him to his position, shadowing Jaqui Smith. 
 
I read yesterday that Labour is considering putting up the baggage handler from Glasgow Airport on an anti terrorist ticket. If they do this then it will demonstrate beyond doubt (as if any more were needed) that this is a cynically rotten government, demonstrated further by it&#039;s arrogant position regarding the result of the Irish Referendum. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Davis has demonstrated that honourble quality in politicians that many people thought had disappeared long ago and in doing so has restored faith that Westminster is not run by a PR spin machine. We are used to seeing politicians resigning from positions having clung on by their fingertips, only for the tabloids to finally claim their scalp, after which the minster will return to his job within 6 months. </p>
<p>I hope David David wins his by-election and going by the popular support from the public at large, I have little doubt that he will do. If and when he does go back to the commons, I hope David Cameron will restore him to his position, shadowing Jaqui Smith. </p>
<p>I read yesterday that Labour is considering putting up the baggage handler from Glasgow Airport on an anti terrorist ticket. If they do this then it will demonstrate beyond doubt (as if any more were needed) that this is a cynically rotten government, demonstrated further by it&#039;s arrogant position regarding the result of the Irish Referendum. </p>
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		<title>By: Stan Francis(Bromsgr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stan Francis(Bromsgr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 08:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay John, here&#039;s another freedom issue.....and no answers?! 
 
letter sent to:-WEST MIDLANDS STRATEGIC HEALTH 7th June 2008: 
Dear Sir, 
For the attention of Steve Hilton. 
Fluoride in my tap water supply: 
I understand that you can answer questions on fluoride addition to the tap water supply in Bromsgrove area and that it is your sole decision on applying this chemical and that no public consultation ever took place before you added it....but in 2003, action(an act) was taken to ensure that fluoride could be added anywhere in the UK without public consultation from that date onwards, would it be therefore correct to say that the addition of fluoride was in fact illegal in 1985. 
It is also understood that many other Health authorities are refusing to add fluoride, could you ascertain for me from these other Health authorities why you feel it is necessary to add fluoride and others do not! 
Could you advise also why Solihull with the same amount of fluoride in the tap water sees less rotten teeth in children than Birmingham with the same level of fluoride in their tap water please and that Bromsgrove also sees less rotten teeth than Birmingham. 
Can you advise why the Water companies require indemnity against adding fluoride to the water supply, why would they want this, is it because it is in fact a poison. 
Please can you state why you do not teach children to brush their teeth and receive a balanced diet to give the fluoride required for healthy teeth, it is understood that Bradford have now started a drive in Mosques to teach them the benefits of healthy brushing and diet. 
Can you advise why you continue to add the fluoride when the York report in 1999 said that poor studies were furnished for analyses. 
Can you state that there are no lasting side effects to consuming fluoride, as I have read that colon cancer, bone brittleness, children&#039;s behaviour patterns being affected, headaches, indigestion problems. 
I have enquired if a test can be made on my own body for the fluoride effect and content but have been refused by my doctor because he says that the NHS will not do this test for me. 
Lastly please advise that as there is now 1ppm of fluoride in the tap water, how much food and water can I consume per day before I am in the danger zone, understanding that 1.5ppm gives fluorosis. 
I would appreciate your reply as soon as possible. 
This request was made sometime ago to your department but no answer came forth. 
Thanking you in anticipation and not wanting an answer that goes like Alan Johnson told you it must go in, as it is primarily your decision to add fluoride and no one else&#039;s. 
Yours faithfully, 
Stan Francis 
for Bromsgrove Clean Water Group </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay John, here&#039;s another freedom issue&#8230;..and no answers?! </p>
<p>letter sent to:-WEST MIDLANDS STRATEGIC HEALTH 7th June 2008:<br />
Dear Sir,<br />
For the attention of Steve Hilton.<br />
Fluoride in my tap water supply:<br />
I understand that you can answer questions on fluoride addition to the tap water supply in Bromsgrove area and that it is your sole decision on applying this chemical and that no public consultation ever took place before you added it&#8230;.but in 2003, action(an act) was taken to ensure that fluoride could be added anywhere in the UK without public consultation from that date onwards, would it be therefore correct to say that the addition of fluoride was in fact illegal in 1985.<br />
It is also understood that many other Health authorities are refusing to add fluoride, could you ascertain for me from these other Health authorities why you feel it is necessary to add fluoride and others do not!<br />
Could you advise also why Solihull with the same amount of fluoride in the tap water sees less rotten teeth in children than Birmingham with the same level of fluoride in their tap water please and that Bromsgrove also sees less rotten teeth than Birmingham.<br />
Can you advise why the Water companies require indemnity against adding fluoride to the water supply, why would they want this, is it because it is in fact a poison.<br />
Please can you state why you do not teach children to brush their teeth and receive a balanced diet to give the fluoride required for healthy teeth, it is understood that Bradford have now started a drive in Mosques to teach them the benefits of healthy brushing and diet.<br />
Can you advise why you continue to add the fluoride when the York report in 1999 said that poor studies were furnished for analyses.<br />
Can you state that there are no lasting side effects to consuming fluoride, as I have read that colon cancer, bone brittleness, children&#039;s behaviour patterns being affected, headaches, indigestion problems.<br />
I have enquired if a test can be made on my own body for the fluoride effect and content but have been refused by my doctor because he says that the NHS will not do this test for me.<br />
Lastly please advise that as there is now 1ppm of fluoride in the tap water, how much food and water can I consume per day before I am in the danger zone, understanding that 1.5ppm gives fluorosis.<br />
I would appreciate your reply as soon as possible.<br />
This request was made sometime ago to your department but no answer came forth.<br />
Thanking you in anticipation and not wanting an answer that goes like Alan Johnson told you it must go in, as it is primarily your decision to add fluoride and no one else&#039;s.<br />
Yours faithfully,<br />
Stan Francis<br />
for Bromsgrove Clean Water Group </p>
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