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		<title>By: Adrian Peirson</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/06/23/a-broken-strategy-for-a-broken-society/#comment-4245</link>
		<dc:creator>Adrian Peirson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 21:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gordon Brown is an ******* 
 
Years ago we deposited real money into banks who gave us a receipt, we are now so used to using these receipts as &#039;money&#039; 
That we believe it to be Money, but it is not, it is simply a receipt, Meanwhile, Gordon has sold off the Real Money to ? 
Leaving us playing with just the receipts. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gordon Brown is an ******* </p>
<p>Years ago we deposited real money into banks who gave us a receipt, we are now so used to using these receipts as &#039;money&#039;<br />
That we believe it to be Money, but it is not, it is simply a receipt, Meanwhile, Gordon has sold off the Real Money to ?<br />
Leaving us playing with just the receipts.<br />
  <a href="http://planetquo.com/The-Law-Is-An-Ass-And-You-Are-Made-Of-Straw" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://planetquo.com/The-Law-Is-An-Ass-And-You-Ar" rel="nofollow">http://planetquo.com/The-Law-Is-An-Ass-And-You-Ar</a>&#8230; </p>
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		<title>By: DBC Reed</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/06/23/a-broken-strategy-for-a-broken-society/#comment-4244</link>
		<dc:creator>DBC Reed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 08:08:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I though the right to buy was going to sort out the estates that James Strachan is talking about? The idea of the run-down council estate is a thing of the past, surely: a very large number of houses are privately owned, making zero difference to poverty levels apparently and leading to people parking on their front gardens and damaging the infrastructure at a time when the growth of hedges and trees would ,otherwise, take the edge off the raw appearance. 
People complain about energy bills ,petrol prices but the free market was supposed to make everything cheaper (or perhaps&quot; more efficient&quot;means something else). 
P.S round here people &quot;on the social&quot; are put in brand new speculatively built two-bedroom flats which the wonders of the market aka the Invisible Hand have left short of private buyers. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I though the right to buy was going to sort out the estates that James Strachan is talking about? The idea of the run-down council estate is a thing of the past, surely: a very large number of houses are privately owned, making zero difference to poverty levels apparently and leading to people parking on their front gardens and damaging the infrastructure at a time when the growth of hedges and trees would ,otherwise, take the edge off the raw appearance.<br />
People complain about energy bills ,petrol prices but the free market was supposed to make everything cheaper (or perhaps&quot; more efficient&quot;means something else).<br />
P.S round here people &quot;on the social&quot; are put in brand new speculatively built two-bedroom flats which the wonders of the market aka the Invisible Hand have left short of private buyers. </p>
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		<title>By: William B.</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/06/23/a-broken-strategy-for-a-broken-society/#comment-4243</link>
		<dc:creator>William B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 03:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr Brown&#039;s first &quot;re-launch&quot; occurred when he announced that there would be no general election last autumn because he wanted to present his &quot;vision&quot; to the people.  Being a generally polite nation, we waited patiently. 
 
My understanding of a serious politician&#039;s &quot;vision&quot; is that it comprises a series of clear statements of principle on the proper role of the state and the way in which the state should fulfill its role as thus defined. 
 
There are some areas in which the state must always be supreme, most notably defence and immigration.  But in many other areas of life a balance must be struck between how much the state seeks to do and how much is left to individuals.  What is to be the state&#039;s role in the economy, education, transport, health ... and the list goes on and on. 
 
I am still waiting.  I have not heard Mr Brown set out what he perceives to be the proper role of the state in any area.  I remember an attack on plastic carrier bags; he might be right, he might be wrong, but it is not a matter of &quot;vision&quot;.  I remember British Jobs for British Workers; that is a non-starter for reasons already well rehearsed in this blog although it does contain at least a hint of &quot;vision&quot;.  And now we have cash payments being offered for good behaviour in the way one might reward a previously inconsiderate dog when it finally chooses to do its business outside rather than in the middle of the tufted Wilton; it is hard to discern a &quot;vision&quot; here. 
 
Any former Chancellor who moves into Number 10 and is then faced with economic problems is bound to suffer in the public&#039;s estimation.  Many questions have been raised about Mr Brown&#039;s character and the mere fact that such matters have been aired is bound to have a further adverse effect on his standing.  But I cannot help thinking that the continuing failure to explain his &quot;vision&quot; does him more harm in the eyes of the public than anything else. 
 
Combined with a succession of events in which the government has been reactive rather than proactive, the failure to explain his &quot;vision&quot; must cause many to conclude that he simply does not have one. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr Brown&#039;s first &quot;re-launch&quot; occurred when he announced that there would be no general election last autumn because he wanted to present his &quot;vision&quot; to the people.  Being a generally polite nation, we waited patiently. </p>
<p>My understanding of a serious politician&#039;s &quot;vision&quot; is that it comprises a series of clear statements of principle on the proper role of the state and the way in which the state should fulfill its role as thus defined. </p>
<p>There are some areas in which the state must always be supreme, most notably defence and immigration.  But in many other areas of life a balance must be struck between how much the state seeks to do and how much is left to individuals.  What is to be the state&#039;s role in the economy, education, transport, health &#8230; and the list goes on and on. </p>
<p>I am still waiting.  I have not heard Mr Brown set out what he perceives to be the proper role of the state in any area.  I remember an attack on plastic carrier bags; he might be right, he might be wrong, but it is not a matter of &quot;vision&quot;.  I remember British Jobs for British Workers; that is a non-starter for reasons already well rehearsed in this blog although it does contain at least a hint of &quot;vision&quot;.  And now we have cash payments being offered for good behaviour in the way one might reward a previously inconsiderate dog when it finally chooses to do its business outside rather than in the middle of the tufted Wilton; it is hard to discern a &quot;vision&quot; here. </p>
<p>Any former Chancellor who moves into Number 10 and is then faced with economic problems is bound to suffer in the public&#039;s estimation.  Many questions have been raised about Mr Brown&#039;s character and the mere fact that such matters have been aired is bound to have a further adverse effect on his standing.  But I cannot help thinking that the continuing failure to explain his &quot;vision&quot; does him more harm in the eyes of the public than anything else. </p>
<p>Combined with a succession of events in which the government has been reactive rather than proactive, the failure to explain his &quot;vision&quot; must cause many to conclude that he simply does not have one. </p>
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		<title>By: DiscoveredJoys</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/06/23/a-broken-strategy-for-a-broken-society/#comment-4242</link>
		<dc:creator>DiscoveredJoys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 22:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m afraid that the whole of society, including the political parties, is caught in a sixties timewarp where everyone is believed to be good and judging people by their behaviour is wrong. 
 
The Government would sooner issue new laws than go through the pain and effort of dealing with the few people showing bad behaviour. 
 
I know personally of some firms who issue new companywide guidelines (on claiming expenses, say)  rather than dealing with individual employees who break existing rules. 
 
In reality most people living in social housing are fine people, trying to lead productive lives. There are a few disruptive badly behaved lawbreakers - why not sort the bad ones out quickly or does this mean making a judgement? 
 
In reality most young people go out for a night and cause no trouble. A few get drunk and violent - why not lock them up for a few days or does this mean making a judgement? 
 
In reality, or so I am told, most MPs claim only appropriate expenses. A few appear to be committing fraud - why not prosecute them or does this mean making a judgement? 
 
Not only must individuals be prepared to take responsibility for themselves, but society in general must also take responsibility for actually enforcing laws. People will be happier knowing that there are limits and that these will be enforced (as long as they are fair). </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m afraid that the whole of society, including the political parties, is caught in a sixties timewarp where everyone is believed to be good and judging people by their behaviour is wrong. </p>
<p>The Government would sooner issue new laws than go through the pain and effort of dealing with the few people showing bad behaviour. </p>
<p>I know personally of some firms who issue new companywide guidelines (on claiming expenses, say)  rather than dealing with individual employees who break existing rules. </p>
<p>In reality most people living in social housing are fine people, trying to lead productive lives. There are a few disruptive badly behaved lawbreakers &#8211; why not sort the bad ones out quickly or does this mean making a judgement? </p>
<p>In reality most young people go out for a night and cause no trouble. A few get drunk and violent &#8211; why not lock them up for a few days or does this mean making a judgement? </p>
<p>In reality, or so I am told, most MPs claim only appropriate expenses. A few appear to be committing fraud &#8211; why not prosecute them or does this mean making a judgement? </p>
<p>Not only must individuals be prepared to take responsibility for themselves, but society in general must also take responsibility for actually enforcing laws. People will be happier knowing that there are limits and that these will be enforced (as long as they are fair). </p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/06/23/a-broken-strategy-for-a-broken-society/#comment-4241</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 21:24:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The DVLA are now offering an entry into a prize draw to win one of three Seat cars per month as an incentive to use their online services. 
I wonder how long it will be before we are offered such inducements to register for ID cards or to vote in a General or Local Election? 
(Seat are providing these new cars free of charge but I question what&#039;s in it for them and why them out  of all the manufacturers? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The DVLA are now offering an entry into a prize draw to win one of three Seat cars per month as an incentive to use their online services.<br />
I wonder how long it will be before we are offered such inducements to register for ID cards or to vote in a General or Local Election?<br />
(Seat are providing these new cars free of charge but I question what&#039;s in it for them and why them out  of all the manufacturers? </p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Reynolds</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/06/23/a-broken-strategy-for-a-broken-society/#comment-4246</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Reynolds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 20:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quite simply a flat rate income tax at 15% with the first &#194;&#163;12,000 p/a exempt from tax in the form of a bigger basic personal allowance  ( rather than the &#194;&#163;5,000 pittance &amp; complex age related allowances ) would sort out many of the problems that your blogs point to ! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quite simply a flat rate income tax at 15% with the first &Acirc;&pound;12,000 p/a exempt from tax in the form of a bigger basic personal allowance  ( rather than the &Acirc;&pound;5,000 pittance &amp; complex age related allowances ) would sort out many of the problems that your blogs point to ! </p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Reynolds</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/06/23/a-broken-strategy-for-a-broken-society/#comment-4240</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Reynolds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 19:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quite simply a flat rate income tax at 15% with the first Â£12,000 p/a exempt from tax in the form of a bigger basic personal allowance  ( rather than the Â£5,000 pittance &amp; complex age related allowances ) would sort out many of the problems that your blogs point to !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quite simply a flat rate income tax at 15% with the first Â£12,000 p/a exempt from tax in the form of a bigger basic personal allowance  ( rather than the Â£5,000 pittance &amp; complex age related allowances ) would sort out many of the problems that your blogs point to !</p>
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		<title>By: James Strachan</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/06/23/a-broken-strategy-for-a-broken-society/#comment-4239</link>
		<dc:creator>James Strachan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 18:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What Gordon does not realise is that he has created the society in which people cannot rise by their own efforts. 
 
If you are poor, an increase in income does not help.  It&#039;s all taken away in tax, national insurance, withdrawal of benefits, withdrawal of housing benefit, etc., etc. 
 
And, if you are in social housing, you are probably in an estate surrounded by people with the same problems.  You can&#039;t move because, wherever you would like to move to, there is a long, long queue for social housing. 
 
So you learn to limit your ambitions and to live only for today.  And your children learn the same lesson and don&#039;t try to do well at school. 
 
I seem to recall that you said something about this over ten years ago. 
 
The sad truth is that the benefit system, however well intended, is now the major cause of poverty in this country. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Gordon does not realise is that he has created the society in which people cannot rise by their own efforts. </p>
<p>If you are poor, an increase in income does not help.  It&#039;s all taken away in tax, national insurance, withdrawal of benefits, withdrawal of housing benefit, etc., etc. </p>
<p>And, if you are in social housing, you are probably in an estate surrounded by people with the same problems.  You can&#039;t move because, wherever you would like to move to, there is a long, long queue for social housing. </p>
<p>So you learn to limit your ambitions and to live only for today.  And your children learn the same lesson and don&#039;t try to do well at school. </p>
<p>I seem to recall that you said something about this over ten years ago. </p>
<p>The sad truth is that the benefit system, however well intended, is now the major cause of poverty in this country. </p>
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		<title>By: mikestallard</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/06/23/a-broken-strategy-for-a-broken-society/#comment-4238</link>
		<dc:creator>mikestallard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 16:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We, the people who read the papers, notice little things, you know. We see that MPs are about to get expenses of &#194;&#163;150 a week. We notice that MEPs syphon off hundreds of thousands. We see that many people in London are well over the &#194;&#163;100,000 a year mark now. 
So if we are offered &#194;&#163;100 for winter fuel or &#194;&#163;100 to stop smoking, we feel dirty and humiliated. We are constantly offered stuff like that by all sorts of people from Supermarkets to grubby financial schemes. 
As to the schools - did you read Melanie Phillips in the Mail today? 
She is totally right, bringing back some form of selective schools where people want it would really act like a tonic. Here in Cambridgeshire, our local Comprehensives are running as just about the same GCSE results level as the Secondary Moderns are in Lincolnshire. 
The huge difference is that here we pay &#194;&#163;10,000 a year (per pupil) for the Grammar School whereas in Lincolnshire, the Grammar School is totally free. 
I wonder myself whether people are ready for the Swedish system. Do you, at the Top of the Party ever actually talk about it? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We, the people who read the papers, notice little things, you know. We see that MPs are about to get expenses of &Acirc;&pound;150 a week. We notice that MEPs syphon off hundreds of thousands. We see that many people in London are well over the &Acirc;&pound;100,000 a year mark now.<br />
So if we are offered &Acirc;&pound;100 for winter fuel or &Acirc;&pound;100 to stop smoking, we feel dirty and humiliated. We are constantly offered stuff like that by all sorts of people from Supermarkets to grubby financial schemes.<br />
As to the schools &#8211; did you read Melanie Phillips in the Mail today?<br />
She is totally right, bringing back some form of selective schools where people want it would really act like a tonic. Here in Cambridgeshire, our local Comprehensives are running as just about the same GCSE results level as the Secondary Moderns are in Lincolnshire.<br />
The huge difference is that here we pay &Acirc;&pound;10,000 a year (per pupil) for the Grammar School whereas in Lincolnshire, the Grammar School is totally free.<br />
I wonder myself whether people are ready for the Swedish system. Do you, at the Top of the Party ever actually talk about it? </p>
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		<title>By: MartinW</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/06/23/a-broken-strategy-for-a-broken-society/#comment-4237</link>
		<dc:creator>MartinW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 15:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is tragic that IDS&#039;s fine report has received scant attention from the media. We may be sure that when NuLab starts to steal the ideas and policies, the Conservatives will get no credit for them. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is tragic that IDS&#039;s fine report has received scant attention from the media. We may be sure that when NuLab starts to steal the ideas and policies, the Conservatives will get no credit for them. </p>
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