Comments on: The English Democrats get it wrong again http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/07/11/the-english-democrats-get-it-wrong-again/ Incisive and topical campaigns and commentary on today's issues and tomorrow's problems Wed, 23 May 2012 13:35:04 +0000 hourly 1 By: John Lillywhite http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/07/11/the-english-democrats-get-it-wrong-again/#comment-4622 John Lillywhite Tue, 11 Aug 2009 18:25:50 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=1178#comment-4622 If you took the precaution of a little investigation before soundind off , you will find that The EDP DOEShave a set of very good (For England) policies. If you took the precaution of a little investigation before soundind off , you will find that The EDP DOEShave a set of very good (For England) policies.

]]> By: Doc Snoddy http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/07/11/the-english-democrats-get-it-wrong-again/#comment-4621 Doc Snoddy Sun, 24 Aug 2008 11:50:16 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=1178#comment-4621 Mr Redwood It is about time that the last colony of the British Empire was set free. Free England and its people now. Think English. Think Englishness. Think England. Stuff the EU. Stuff New Labour. Stuff Lib Dems. Stuff any other party that is against England. If that means the Tory Party so be it. Mr Redwood
It is about time that the last colony of the British Empire was set free. Free England and its people now.
Think English. Think Englishness. Think England.
Stuff the EU. Stuff New Labour. Stuff Lib Dems. Stuff any other party that is against England. If that means the Tory Party so be it.

]]> By: The Englishman http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/07/11/the-english-democrats-get-it-wrong-again/#comment-4620 The Englishman Sat, 23 Aug 2008 15:43:06 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=1178#comment-4620 Perhaps other English Dems feel - as I do - that even euro-sceptic Tories are simply too close to Labour in ideology. The Tories sold out a long time ago and offer no alternative. Smaller parties are responding to that awareness and I hope, in time, they will grow. <a href="http://modernnationalist.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://modernnationalist.blogspot.com/</a> Perhaps other English Dems feel – as I do – that even euro-sceptic Tories are simply too close to Labour in ideology. The Tories sold out a long time ago and offer no alternative. Smaller parties are responding to that awareness and I hope, in time, they will grow. http://modernnationalist.blogspot.com/

]]> By: wonkotsane http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/07/11/the-english-democrats-get-it-wrong-again/#comment-4619 wonkotsane Mon, 14 Jul 2008 15:29:13 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=1178#comment-4619 "I agree with Mike Stallard. My country is also the United Kingdom of Great Britain and NI and I don’t wish to see it split apart. We must defeat the forces of separatism." If you want to protect your union then you need to work on getting it all evened up so that the English get the same treatment as the Celts. The biggest threat to the union is the fact that the English are being treated as third class citizens in their own country. We are the last British colony with no self-government and run as a feifdom of Scottish Liebour. Why should English people die of curable diseases because there's no money left after paying the Celtgeld to buy life saving medical treatments the Scots get for free? Why should English people go blind from ARMD which is curable with a treatment that is available free in Scotland but which the English can't have because there's no money left after paying the Celtgeld? Why should English pensions be forced to sell their homes and all their posessions when they need nursing care when the Scots get it for free because there's no money for England after paying the Celtgeld? Why should the Scots have "the sovereign right to determine the best form of government for themselves" when the English are refused that same right? Why should the Scots be in the privileged position of having the British Prime Minister, Chancellor and other senior cabinet members pledging, when signing the Scottish Claim of Right, to put the interests of Scottish people "first and foremost in all our acts and deliberations"? Who speaks for England? John Redwood? The Tories? Don't make me laugh. (Words left out) p.s. What was wrong with my previous comment that meant it couldn't be published, John? Too close to the truth to be allowed a public airing? Reply I delete anything that is disparaging about individuals which might lead to legal action for the author and the site. I allow many differing views to my own to be published and have no wish to stifle sensible debate. "I agree with Mike Stallard. My country is also the United Kingdom of Great Britain and NI and I don’t wish to see it split apart. We must defeat the forces of separatism."

If you want to protect your union then you need to work on getting it all evened up so that the English get the same treatment as the Celts. The biggest threat to the union is the fact that the English are being treated as third class citizens in their own country. We are the last British colony with no self-government and run as a feifdom of Scottish Liebour.

Why should English people die of curable diseases because there's no money left after paying the Celtgeld to buy life saving medical treatments the Scots get for free?

Why should English people go blind from ARMD which is curable with a treatment that is available free in Scotland but which the English can't have because there's no money left after paying the Celtgeld?

Why should English pensions be forced to sell their homes and all their posessions when they need nursing care when the Scots get it for free because there's no money for England after paying the Celtgeld?

Why should the Scots have "the sovereign right to determine the best form of government for themselves" when the English are refused that same right? Why should the Scots be in the privileged position of having the British Prime Minister, Chancellor and other senior cabinet members pledging, when signing the Scottish Claim of Right, to put the interests of Scottish people "first and foremost in all our acts and deliberations"?

Who speaks for England? John Redwood? The Tories? Don't make me laugh.

(Words left out)

p.s. What was wrong with my previous comment that meant it couldn't be published, John? Too close to the truth to be allowed a public airing?

Reply I delete anything that is disparaging about individuals which might lead to legal action for the author and the site. I allow many differing views to my own to be published and have no wish to stifle sensible debate.

]]> By: Barry http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/07/11/the-english-democrats-get-it-wrong-again/#comment-4618 Barry Mon, 14 Jul 2008 14:27:18 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=1178#comment-4618 I agree with Mike Stallard. My country is also the United Kingdom of Great Britain and NI and I don't wish to see it split apart. We must defeat the forces of separatism. I agree with Mike Stallard. My country is also the United Kingdom of Great Britain and NI and I don't wish to see it split apart. We must defeat the forces of separatism.

]]> By: adam http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/07/11/the-english-democrats-get-it-wrong-again/#comment-4617 adam Mon, 14 Jul 2008 14:10:05 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=1178#comment-4617 From a strategic point of view anglophiles are in a very weak position but looking tactically there are a lot of opportunities. This weird guy Sarkozy is the EUs new figurehead and he has a big mouth. He has talked about an EU army which has spooked people. A poll i saw showed only 12% support for a federal europe, stealth through lies is the europhiles best weapon, Sarkozy might blow it. The Irish no vote is also a great gift. From a strategic point of view anglophiles are in a very weak position but looking tactically there are a lot of opportunities.

This weird guy Sarkozy is the EUs new figurehead and he has a big mouth. He has talked about an EU army which has spooked people. A poll i saw showed only 12% support for a federal europe, stealth through lies is the europhiles best weapon, Sarkozy might blow it.

The Irish no vote is also a great gift.

]]> By: adam http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/07/11/the-english-democrats-get-it-wrong-again/#comment-4616 adam Mon, 14 Jul 2008 13:43:16 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=1178#comment-4616 I believe the conservatives will work to stop further integration and then break up the regions. I support either breaking the union up and having westminster for the English, which would be in keeping with the way things have been going the past one hundred years or with removing regionalism/devolution to a suitable extent. I believe the conservatives will work to stop further integration and then break up the regions.

I support either breaking the union up and having westminster for the English, which would be in keeping with the way things have been going the past one hundred years or with removing regionalism/devolution to a suitable extent.

]]> By: Barry (The Elder) http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/07/11/the-english-democrats-get-it-wrong-again/#comment-4615 Barry (The Elder) Sun, 13 Jul 2008 19:46:54 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=1178#comment-4615 I notice John Rewood has taken the time to reply to some of the correspondence on this blog, but (no I am not jealous) no reply to my observance the Democracy Task Force not once mentioned the word democracy in thier publication, noting JW's lack of response I re-iterate my claim that JW abd DD only pay lip service, lest they rock the tory boat. Reply: It was not my work and it is not official party policy. The issue is what will be the party's policy, where I am more hopeful of progress in the direction we seek. I notice John Rewood has taken the time to reply to some of the correspondence on this blog, but (no I am not jealous) no reply to my observance the Democracy Task Force not once mentioned the word democracy in thier publication, noting JW's lack of response I re-iterate my claim that JW abd DD only pay lip service, lest they rock the tory boat.

Reply: It was not my work and it is not official party policy. The issue is what will be the party's policy, where I am more hopeful of progress in the direction we seek.

]]> By: mikestallard http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/07/11/the-english-democrats-get-it-wrong-again/#comment-4614 mikestallard Sun, 13 Jul 2008 19:42:19 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=1178#comment-4614 What the Liberals and the EU technocratic commissars are trying to do is to break down the nation states which they see as the cause of Imperialism and two World Wars. Hence the totally illegal Regional Governments, the East of England Minister (who she?) and, of course, the Scottish and Welsh Parliaments. Add in the enthusiastic touch of John Prescott MP and - bingo! - you have disintegration. My country - England, Scotland, Wales and Ireland - are under threat from these rapidly balding and wrinkling people. I don't like it. I am a patriot, you see. And I am not ashamed either. What the Liberals and the EU technocratic commissars are trying to do is to break down the nation states which they see as the cause of Imperialism and two World Wars.
Hence the totally illegal Regional Governments, the East of England Minister (who she?) and, of course, the Scottish and Welsh Parliaments. Add in the enthusiastic touch of John Prescott MP and – bingo! – you have disintegration.
My country – England, Scotland, Wales and Ireland – are under threat from these rapidly balding and wrinkling people.
I don't like it. I am a patriot, you see.
And I am not ashamed either.

]]> By: Ed Abrams http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/07/11/the-english-democrats-get-it-wrong-again/#comment-4613 Ed Abrams Sun, 13 Jul 2008 19:20:16 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=1178#comment-4613 Reply: There is no need to resort to personal abuse. I do work hard for justice for my constituents and for England. The first thing you need to help people is a vote in the Commons. The EDs have none Mr Redwood, i do not believe that i have resulted to personal abuse, just the stark and open facts. You like many of your pals in westminster state that you work hard for your constituents and for England - well tell that to the woman who lives in your constituent that is dying of breast cancer because she can't get the drugs or tell that to Mr and Mrs J Bloggs who have been married for 60 years and now have to move into sheltered housing and have to sell their house to pay for it - Please tell me how this is working for your people and for England. The Commons has lost the ear of the people it is nothing more than a talking shop whereby all 3 main parties work together to sunb out any other party. You control the media and the media controls you but the people of England are waking up, all-be-it slowly and we have had enough of the contempt that many of professional MP shows us. We are normal folk who are being shafted and we have had enough. You might have the commons Mr Redwood but we, the English Democrats are getting the people and the people will have their say and we will have our day. Reply: There is no need to resort to personal abuse. I do work hard for justice for my constituents and for England. The first thing you need to help people is a vote in the Commons. The EDs have none

Mr Redwood, i do not believe that i have resulted to personal abuse, just the stark and open facts.
You like many of your pals in westminster state that you work hard for your constituents and for England – well tell that to the woman who lives in your constituent that is dying of breast cancer because she can't get the drugs or tell that to Mr and Mrs J Bloggs who have been married for 60 years and now have to move into sheltered housing and have to sell their house to pay for it – Please tell me how this is working for your people and for England.

The Commons has lost the ear of the people it is nothing more than a talking shop whereby all 3 main parties work together to sunb out any other party. You control the media and the media controls you but the people of England are waking up, all-be-it slowly and we have had enough of the contempt that many of professional MP shows us. We are normal folk who are being shafted and we have had enough.

You might have the commons Mr Redwood but we, the English Democrats are getting the people and the people will have their say and we will have our day.

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