Comments on: Nice drug – if you can get it on the NHS. http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/08/18/nice-drug-if-you-can-get-it-on-the-nhs/ Incisive and topical campaigns and commentary on today's issues and tomorrow's problems Wed, 23 May 2012 13:35:04 +0000 hourly 1 By: Little Man in a Toque » The old England/UK conundrum http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/08/18/nice-drug-if-you-can-get-it-on-the-nhs/#comment-5344 Little Man in a Toque » The old England/UK conundrum Fri, 22 Aug 2008 12:05:17 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=1333#comment-5344 [...] I was disappointed and somewhat amused to notice that John Redwood had engaged in a spot of editing on Wednesday. Originally his NICE article read like so: [...] [...] I was disappointed and somewhat amused to notice that John Redwood had engaged in a spot of editing on Wednesday. Originally his NICE article read like so: [...]

]]> By: Mr A.D.Dagger http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/08/18/nice-drug-if-you-can-get-it-on-the-nhs/#comment-5340 Mr A.D.Dagger Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:03:28 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=1333#comment-5340 It's NICE to see you have amended the piece by removing the incorrect reference to the UK and replacing it with ENGLISH. Even you can see the adverse affect of assymetrical devolution - at last. It's NICE to see you have amended the piece by removing the incorrect reference to the UK and replacing it with ENGLISH.
Even you can see the adverse affect of assymetrical devolution – at last.

]]> By: wonkotsane http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/08/18/nice-drug-if-you-can-get-it-on-the-nhs/#comment-5343 wonkotsane Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:02:19 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=1333#comment-5343 It's important to note that the Welsh government can also fund drugs that NICE refuses to fund. Decisions made by NICE are only binding in England. It’s important to note that the Welsh government can also fund drugs that NICE refuses to fund. Decisions made by NICE are only binding in England.

]]> By: Derek http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/08/18/nice-drug-if-you-can-get-it-on-the-nhs/#comment-5342 Derek Wed, 20 Aug 2008 10:55:20 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=1333#comment-5342 NICE to see you, to see you NICE. NICE to see you, to see you NICE.

]]> By: Patrick Harris http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/08/18/nice-drug-if-you-can-get-it-on-the-nhs/#comment-5339 Patrick Harris Wed, 20 Aug 2008 10:50:06 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=1333#comment-5339 N.I.C.E. is just another quango that the government uses to shed responsibility, responsibility that we, the electorate expected them to shoulder once they had taken up office in Parliament. Whilst MPs pay, allowances and pensions spiral upwards so their responsibilities spiral downwards. The problem is, I do not see that it will be any different if the Tories should get lucky and win the next election. Incidentally, you omit to mention that the majority of these drugs are availabe in Scotland and are free in Wales. Only in England do patients have to resort to the law courts in order to obtain life enhancing/saving drugs and then, at a cost of £7.20 per item. N.I.C.E. is just another quango that the government uses to shed responsibility, responsibility that we, the electorate expected them to shoulder once they had taken up office in Parliament.
Whilst MPs pay, allowances and pensions spiral upwards so their responsibilities spiral downwards.
The problem is, I do not see that it will be any different if the Tories should get lucky and win the next election.
Incidentally, you omit to mention that the majority of these drugs are availabe in Scotland and are free in Wales. Only in England do patients have to resort to the law courts in order to obtain life enhancing/saving drugs and then, at a cost of £7.20 per item.

]]> By: gadgie http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/08/18/nice-drug-if-you-can-get-it-on-the-nhs/#comment-5341 gadgie Wed, 20 Aug 2008 10:40:26 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=1333#comment-5341 Nice was set up to absolve politiciansand especially Scottish MP's in ministerial seats from copping flak.Setting up this quango was an attempt in one small way to answer the west lothian question, that's all. English taxpayers are forced to pay for the parliaments of Wales Scotland Stormont and brussels,but then are refused cancer drugs because of the expense. Incredible, but it does not look like Cameron will do anything to help. Nice was set up to absolve politiciansand especially Scottish MP’s in ministerial seats from copping flak.Setting up this quango was an attempt in one small way to answer the west lothian question, that’s all. English taxpayers are forced to pay for the parliaments of Wales Scotland Stormont and brussels,but then are refused cancer drugs because of the expense. Incredible, but it does not look like Cameron will do anything to help.

]]> By: Lee Jakeman http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/08/18/nice-drug-if-you-can-get-it-on-the-nhs/#comment-5338 Lee Jakeman Wed, 20 Aug 2008 06:19:41 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=1333#comment-5338 "... single purchaser in the UK market." Er - you mean the ENGLISH market, don't you? "… single purchaser in the UK market." Er – you mean the ENGLISH market, don't you?

]]> By: T Ritchie (Sr) http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/08/18/nice-drug-if-you-can-get-it-on-the-nhs/#comment-5337 T Ritchie (Sr) Wed, 20 Aug 2008 00:50:15 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=1333#comment-5337 The article fails to mention that there are three NHSs, and English patients are often denied medications which are available elsewhere in the UK. Decisions of NICE, (the National Institute to Curb Expenditure) do not apply in Scotland. The article fails to mention that there are three NHSs, and English patients are often denied medications which are available elsewhere in the UK.

Decisions of NICE, (the National Institute to Curb Expenditure) do not apply in Scotland.

]]> By: Derek http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/08/18/nice-drug-if-you-can-get-it-on-the-nhs/#comment-5336 Derek Tue, 19 Aug 2008 22:44:28 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=1333#comment-5336 John UK:NICE? NICE has no jurisdiction in Scotland. The Scottish Medicines Consortium the SMC performs the role of NICE in Scotland. So you need to mention England! John UK:NICE?

NICE has no jurisdiction in Scotland. The Scottish Medicines Consortium the SMC performs the role of NICE in Scotland.

So you need to mention England!

]]> By: David Gerard http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/08/18/nice-drug-if-you-can-get-it-on-the-nhs/#comment-5335 David Gerard Tue, 19 Aug 2008 21:14:33 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=1333#comment-5335 It's a good thing they can approve Viagra instead of cancer drugs. <a href="http://notnews.today.com/2008/08/18/drug-firms-deny-pricing-for-profit/" rel="nofollow">http://notnews.today.com/2008/08/18/drug-firms-de...</a> It's a good thing they can approve Viagra instead of cancer drugs. http://notnews.today.com/2008/08/18/drug-firms-de…

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