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		<title>By: APL</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/10/07/what-should-the-authorities-do-now/#comment-6808</link>
		<dc:creator>APL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 15:33:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metro.co.uk/news/article.html?Brown_in_rage_over_%A31bn_loss_in_Iceland&amp;in_article_id=351086&amp;in_page_id=34&amp;in_a_source=&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.metro.co.uk/news/article.html?Brown_in...&lt;/a&gt; 
 
 
Mr. Redwood, according to the report in the Metro, Gordon Brown has invoked anti terrorism laws against the assets held by Iceland and Icelandic Nationals in the United Kingdom. 
 
Do you think this is appropriate use of leglislation in this case? 
 
I don&#039;t think so, but it does in my opinion illustrate how easy it is to abuse this type of sweeping leglislation once it is on the statute books, regardless of the assurances given during the passage through Parliament. </description>
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<p>Mr. Redwood, according to the report in the Metro, Gordon Brown has invoked anti terrorism laws against the assets held by Iceland and Icelandic Nationals in the United Kingdom. </p>
<p>Do you think this is appropriate use of leglislation in this case? </p>
<p>I don&#039;t think so, but it does in my opinion illustrate how easy it is to abuse this type of sweeping leglislation once it is on the statute books, regardless of the assurances given during the passage through Parliament.</p>
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		<title>By: mikestallard</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/10/07/what-should-the-authorities-do-now/#comment-6807</link>
		<dc:creator>mikestallard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 06:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At the risk of being repetitious, let&#039;s get the record straight here. It was actually the Clinton Administration which cajoled and then sued the banks into giving mortgages to totally unsuitable people. They did this on compassionate grounds, natch. Then, once the banks were full of useless debts, they allowed them to go international and sell the debts on, now bundled up with bankers&#039; guarantees firmly printed on the outside. 
And, by the way, nationalising things, especially if you take all the fun out of it (bonuses and high rewards and risk), is not going to work in the long term. 
Even Tony Blair knew that. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the risk of being repetitious, let&#039;s get the record straight here. It was actually the Clinton Administration which cajoled and then sued the banks into giving mortgages to totally unsuitable people. They did this on compassionate grounds, natch. Then, once the banks were full of useless debts, they allowed them to go international and sell the debts on, now bundled up with bankers&#039; guarantees firmly printed on the outside.<br />
And, by the way, nationalising things, especially if you take all the fun out of it (bonuses and high rewards and risk), is not going to work in the long term.<br />
Even Tony Blair knew that.</p>
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		<title>By: Freeborn John</title>
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		<dc:creator>Freeborn John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 06:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The main problem is with banks struggling to attract funds. Without these funds they cannot lend to corporate or individual borrowers. Therefore interest rates should be higher to attract deposits from nervous savers. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The main problem is with banks struggling to attract funds. Without these funds they cannot lend to corporate or individual borrowers. Therefore interest rates should be higher to attract deposits from nervous savers.</p>
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		<title>By: StevenL</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/10/07/what-should-the-authorities-do-now/#comment-6805</link>
		<dc:creator>StevenL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 22:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It strikes me that not very many people want to avoid the property bubbles on the way up, from what I remember nearly every homeowner in the land loved it.  The only ones that complained were the ones who were stuck with their twenty-something kids living at home.  The priced-out twenty-somethings hated it and have little sympathy for the people that whinge about their house is losing value. 
 
As long as the British people have a culture of owning their own property the ups and downs will happen.  If a government creates a fiscal policy to deter asset price inflation, and it proves unpopular, the other party will simply promise to abolish it upon election. 
 
Why don&#039;t we just accept that boom and bust is a reality, even if it wasn&#039;t property it could be another asset class.  People borrowed to buy shares in the roaring twenties and during the dotcom boom.  If we all went crazy for some other kind of asset I&#039;m sure someone would find a way of creating the loans to pump the bubble up. 
 
If you ask me, the sooner property falls 30 - 40% from peak the sooner the big wall of money out there will dip their toe in the water of recovery. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It strikes me that not very many people want to avoid the property bubbles on the way up, from what I remember nearly every homeowner in the land loved it.  The only ones that complained were the ones who were stuck with their twenty-something kids living at home.  The priced-out twenty-somethings hated it and have little sympathy for the people that whinge about their house is losing value. </p>
<p>As long as the British people have a culture of owning their own property the ups and downs will happen.  If a government creates a fiscal policy to deter asset price inflation, and it proves unpopular, the other party will simply promise to abolish it upon election. </p>
<p>Why don&#039;t we just accept that boom and bust is a reality, even if it wasn&#039;t property it could be another asset class.  People borrowed to buy shares in the roaring twenties and during the dotcom boom.  If we all went crazy for some other kind of asset I&#039;m sure someone would find a way of creating the loans to pump the bubble up. </p>
<p>If you ask me, the sooner property falls 30 &#8211; 40% from peak the sooner the big wall of money out there will dip their toe in the water of recovery.</p>
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		<title>By: michael, islington</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/10/07/what-should-the-authorities-do-now/#comment-6804</link>
		<dc:creator>michael, islington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 21:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;... seeking a private sector solution [to recapitalise] where possible&quot;. 
 
That&#039;s been the flaw in your argument.  No private capital entity, or for that matter, sovereign entity, has been interested in investing in a UK bank. 
 
There is no alternative, as I think even Osborne acknowledges. 
 
Still taxpayers wake up tomorrow owning the banks.  Socialism triumphs.  The road to serfdom beckons. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;&#8230; seeking a private sector solution [to recapitalise] where possible&quot;. </p>
<p>That&#039;s been the flaw in your argument.  No private capital entity, or for that matter, sovereign entity, has been interested in investing in a UK bank. </p>
<p>There is no alternative, as I think even Osborne acknowledges. </p>
<p>Still taxpayers wake up tomorrow owning the banks.  Socialism triumphs.  The road to serfdom beckons.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 20:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All good points - for which many thanks. 
 
What do you think re interest rates. Should they be increased or decreased ? 
 
Grateful for your thoughts. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All good points &#8211; for which many thanks. </p>
<p>What do you think re interest rates. Should they be increased or decreased ? </p>
<p>Grateful for your thoughts.</p>
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		<title>By: DBC Reed</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/10/07/what-should-the-authorities-do-now/#comment-6802</link>
		<dc:creator>DBC Reed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 20:26:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was rather hoping that this Conservative web-site would be meting out to the bankers the  robust criticism that was formerly directed at the miners in the days before blogs were invented.After all the bankers are just as much on strike, having been given copper-bottomed public securities to replace the trash paper they had bought from the USA.The expectation was that they would resume circulating credit but this expectation has been confounded. 
 
Mark Wadsworth&#039;s suggestion of debt for equity swaps looks perfectly feasible but there appears to be little appetite in the City for anything beyond temporary part-nationalisation.But why temporary and why part?The only inference to be drawn from the temporary nature of the arrangement is so that the banks can be tided over and when they start making money again can be bought back so that the private sector can step in when big trouble-free  money is to be made.The part nationalisation notion just affords a free ride during the trip back to profitability with the shares gaining in value along the way. 
 
Properly conducted national ownership of the production of credit is not only a useful stop-gap but a juster system whereby the nation resumes control of the common stock of money in much the same way as the Single Tax on land returns the profits of land (or economic rent) to the community.(The great land reformer Silvio Gesell also  taxed the circulation of his money at set intervals.) Interest rates in a fully nationalised scheme could act as such a tax(minus the payment to savers)which could replace other taxes on the workers (already less burdened under LVT).Also Gesell&#039;s money circulated at a ferocious speed as people passed the notes on before the tax became due so unfreezing the system. 
 
At the moment LVT might serve to unfreeze the system somewhat because the banks could be freed to lend money on houses without fear that they  would be getting into another bubble, which might develop from the value of the land underneath expanding before catastrophically contracting. The much sought-after floor in the housing market slide should be not some ratio of house prices to earnings(by definition inflationary) but as near as possible the cost of the bricks , mortar,labour + a profit. 
 
Reply: This is not a Conservative website. This happen to be my website, and I am a Conservative. I did not make critical comments about the miners, and do not intend to attack the many people who worked for banks doing a good job. I have already criticised the Directors and regulators. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was rather hoping that this Conservative web-site would be meting out to the bankers the  robust criticism that was formerly directed at the miners in the days before blogs were invented.After all the bankers are just as much on strike, having been given copper-bottomed public securities to replace the trash paper they had bought from the USA.The expectation was that they would resume circulating credit but this expectation has been confounded. </p>
<p>Mark Wadsworth&#039;s suggestion of debt for equity swaps looks perfectly feasible but there appears to be little appetite in the City for anything beyond temporary part-nationalisation.But why temporary and why part?The only inference to be drawn from the temporary nature of the arrangement is so that the banks can be tided over and when they start making money again can be bought back so that the private sector can step in when big trouble-free  money is to be made.The part nationalisation notion just affords a free ride during the trip back to profitability with the shares gaining in value along the way. </p>
<p>Properly conducted national ownership of the production of credit is not only a useful stop-gap but a juster system whereby the nation resumes control of the common stock of money in much the same way as the Single Tax on land returns the profits of land (or economic rent) to the community.(The great land reformer Silvio Gesell also  taxed the circulation of his money at set intervals.) Interest rates in a fully nationalised scheme could act as such a tax(minus the payment to savers)which could replace other taxes on the workers (already less burdened under LVT).Also Gesell&#039;s money circulated at a ferocious speed as people passed the notes on before the tax became due so unfreezing the system. </p>
<p>At the moment LVT might serve to unfreeze the system somewhat because the banks could be freed to lend money on houses without fear that they  would be getting into another bubble, which might develop from the value of the land underneath expanding before catastrophically contracting. The much sought-after floor in the housing market slide should be not some ratio of house prices to earnings(by definition inflationary) but as near as possible the cost of the bricks , mortar,labour + a profit. </p>
<p>Reply: This is not a Conservative website. This happen to be my website, and I am a Conservative. I did not make critical comments about the miners, and do not intend to attack the many people who worked for banks doing a good job. I have already criticised the Directors and regulators.</p>
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		<title>By: mikestallard</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/10/07/what-should-the-authorities-do-now/#comment-6801</link>
		<dc:creator>mikestallard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 19:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My son rang up this evening from Thailand where he hears all the gossip and is frightened of losing his life savings which are with the Nationwide. 
Because of this excellent blog, I was not only able to reassure him a little, but also to explain exactly what the problem was, what the likely outcomes were and that he really was not on the danger list - yet. 
So allow me to join you in your post - I thoroughly agree with every word! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My son rang up this evening from Thailand where he hears all the gossip and is frightened of losing his life savings which are with the Nationwide.<br />
Because of this excellent blog, I was not only able to reassure him a little, but also to explain exactly what the problem was, what the likely outcomes were and that he really was not on the danger list &#8211; yet.<br />
So allow me to join you in your post &#8211; I thoroughly agree with every word!</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Wadsworth</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/10/07/what-should-the-authorities-do-now/#comment-6800</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Wadsworth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 16:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;the authorities need to do more &#8211; behind the scenes &#8211; to strengthen liquidity and capital adequacy, seeking private sector solutions wherever possible.&quot;&lt;/i&gt; 
 
Exactly! 
 
The private sector solution is called &lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.ft.com/maverecon/2008/09/more-and-different-including-a-debt-for-equity-swap-for-the-financial-sector/#comment-4735&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;debt for equity swaps&quot;&lt;/a&gt;. 
 
Like Neil Craig, I am horrified that Cameron &amp; Osborne are going along with this whole idea that the government should be spending one penny of taxpayers&#039; finest on propping up banks. 
 
That&#039;s that fixed for now. And if you want to avoid property price/credit bubbles in future, sensible regulation is half the battle and replacing Council Tax, Business Rates, Stamp Duty Land Tax and Inheritance Tax with Land Value Tax will prevent them once and for all. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&quot;the authorities need to do more &ndash; behind the scenes &ndash; to strengthen liquidity and capital adequacy, seeking private sector solutions wherever possible.&quot;</i> </p>
<p>Exactly! </p>
<p>The private sector solution is called <a href="http://blogs.ft.com/maverecon/2008/09/more-and-different-including-a-debt-for-equity-swap-for-the-financial-sector/#comment-4735" rel="nofollow">&quot;debt for equity swaps&quot;</a>. </p>
<p>Like Neil Craig, I am horrified that Cameron &amp; Osborne are going along with this whole idea that the government should be spending one penny of taxpayers&#039; finest on propping up banks. </p>
<p>That&#039;s that fixed for now. And if you want to avoid property price/credit bubbles in future, sensible regulation is half the battle and replacing Council Tax, Business Rates, Stamp Duty Land Tax and Inheritance Tax with Land Value Tax will prevent them once and for all.</p>
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		<title>By: Eddie Allen</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/10/07/what-should-the-authorities-do-now/#comment-6799</link>
		<dc:creator>Eddie Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 16:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FOR SALE &#8211; ECONOMIC FALLOUT SHELTERS ONLY &pound;100 EACH </p>
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