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		<title>By: Rose</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/10/28/is-this-public-service-broadcasting/#comment-7460</link>
		<dc:creator>Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 14:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The people who have written to say what they think about the standards of the BBC may not be the majority, but neither are they a &quot;mob&quot; as the various inarticulate and overpaid mediacrats would have it, even if it is the latter who are feeling besieged in their palaces. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The people who have written to say what they think about the standards of the BBC may not be the majority, but neither are they a &quot;mob&quot; as the various inarticulate and overpaid mediacrats would have it, even if it is the latter who are feeling besieged in their palaces.</p>
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		<title>By: THE ESSEX BOYS</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/10/28/is-this-public-service-broadcasting/#comment-7459</link>
		<dc:creator>THE ESSEX BOYS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 20:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OUR FIRST BLOG ON 29/10 INCLUDED THE FOLLOWING:
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&quot;Mark our words BBC managers, unless you take action here you will look back on this incident and see it as a very long nail in the License Fee coffin.&quot;
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Nothing heard since has altered our view and the debate is certainly not going away but is becoming increasingly mature; your new blog above is a good example and we shall give your question consideration and try to contribute.

We now understand that the Director General is paid in excess of £800,000pa and he seemed, on the Andrew Marr Show today, to believe this is proper and in line with &#039;captains of industry&#039;. We dispute that and were amazed that someone so senior and well-paid laced his replies with so many &#039;you knows&#039; and &#039;to be honests&#039; that we would not have given a potential trainee the time of day had he presented himself so poorly. And this in the Communications industry! We believe that this DG is way out of his depth.

Like football managers, who have boosted their own pay packets Like football managers, who have boosted their own pay packets - and those of their support teams of camp followers - enormously by strong-arming their directors into player contracts involving ever-increasingly stupid sums, so the BBC hierarchy have used the same tactics with Ross and gang, paying them inappropriate and unnecessary amounts of taxpayers money and thereby justifying their own huge packages.
As with a major footall club so with the BBC -  crowds would turn up in similar numbers with lesser stars on display and some of those lesser lights would become big stars because of the stage on which they now can play!

As we said previously it&#039;s clear to us that Messrs Thompson, and probably Lyons too , cannot hang onto their jobs if they now terminate Ross. In a company the Board could act in the interests of the shareholders but will Tessa Jowell&#039;s ill-advised, half-baked structure be able to do right thing by us?
We doubt it.

However we DO feel confident that one way or another Ross will not return to the BBC and the professional interviewers and presenters who have done a fine job this past week - Humphreys, Maitlis, Mair, Vine and even dear old Marr to name a few - will rejoice that their own roles in the BBC are no longer being devalued by immature numbskulls!

We believe too that the senior management will before very long follow Brand &amp; Ross out the door.

Thank you for providing the space here for us to put across what we have found nearly everyone - old and young - are voicing in our local Essex pubs...and no doubt way beyond!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OUR FIRST BLOG ON 29/10 INCLUDED THE FOLLOWING:<br />
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&#8220;Mark our words BBC managers, unless you take action here you will look back on this incident and see it as a very long nail in the License Fee coffin.&#8221;<br />
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Nothing heard since has altered our view and the debate is certainly not going away but is becoming increasingly mature; your new blog above is a good example and we shall give your question consideration and try to contribute.</p>
<p>We now understand that the Director General is paid in excess of £800,000pa and he seemed, on the Andrew Marr Show today, to believe this is proper and in line with &#8216;captains of industry&#8217;. We dispute that and were amazed that someone so senior and well-paid laced his replies with so many &#8216;you knows&#8217; and &#8216;to be honests&#8217; that we would not have given a potential trainee the time of day had he presented himself so poorly. And this in the Communications industry! We believe that this DG is way out of his depth.</p>
<p>Like football managers, who have boosted their own pay packets Like football managers, who have boosted their own pay packets &#8211; and those of their support teams of camp followers &#8211; enormously by strong-arming their directors into player contracts involving ever-increasingly stupid sums, so the BBC hierarchy have used the same tactics with Ross and gang, paying them inappropriate and unnecessary amounts of taxpayers money and thereby justifying their own huge packages.<br />
As with a major footall club so with the BBC &#8211;  crowds would turn up in similar numbers with lesser stars on display and some of those lesser lights would become big stars because of the stage on which they now can play!</p>
<p>As we said previously it&#8217;s clear to us that Messrs Thompson, and probably Lyons too , cannot hang onto their jobs if they now terminate Ross. In a company the Board could act in the interests of the shareholders but will Tessa Jowell&#8217;s ill-advised, half-baked structure be able to do right thing by us?<br />
We doubt it.</p>
<p>However we DO feel confident that one way or another Ross will not return to the BBC and the professional interviewers and presenters who have done a fine job this past week &#8211; Humphreys, Maitlis, Mair, Vine and even dear old Marr to name a few &#8211; will rejoice that their own roles in the BBC are no longer being devalued by immature numbskulls!</p>
<p>We believe too that the senior management will before very long follow Brand &amp; Ross out the door.</p>
<p>Thank you for providing the space here for us to put across what we have found nearly everyone &#8211; old and young &#8211; are voicing in our local Essex pubs&#8230;and no doubt way beyond!</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon Riby</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/10/28/is-this-public-service-broadcasting/#comment-7458</link>
		<dc:creator>Gordon Riby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 12:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How are 37,000 people (and any Daily Mail readers) the &quot;bulk&quot; of BBC viewers? I agree that the BBC is biased towards the left and I happen to think Jonathan Ross is paid too much. But he is popular - His chat and radio shows command high ratings. Even Terry Wogan, who hosts the most popular radio show in the UK and whose audience includes people who make up the &quot;silent majority&quot;, has criticised the extreme overreaction to these events. 
 
Another you might want to know is that Andrew Sach&#039;s granddaughter has sold her story to the Sun and hired Max Clifford as her spokesperson. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How are 37,000 people (and any Daily Mail readers) the &quot;bulk&quot; of BBC viewers? I agree that the BBC is biased towards the left and I happen to think Jonathan Ross is paid too much. But he is popular &#8211; His chat and radio shows command high ratings. Even Terry Wogan, who hosts the most popular radio show in the UK and whose audience includes people who make up the &quot;silent majority&quot;, has criticised the extreme overreaction to these events. </p>
<p>Another you might want to know is that Andrew Sach&#039;s granddaughter has sold her story to the Sun and hired Max Clifford as her spokesperson.</p>
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		<title>By: Bazman</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/10/28/is-this-public-service-broadcasting/#comment-7457</link>
		<dc:creator>Bazman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 20:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They should get a job with SKY. Does anyone think SKY is better than the BBC? You&#039;re not serious are you? Where will you all watch period dramas? Still middle England can have their fast food and blue pop advertising to get morally offended by. 
The main problem with this &#039;comedy&#039; is that would stretch the humor of any boy over the age of twelve. Ross can be funny clever and cutting edge, but has got fat on his money and his celebrity chums. Brand is sixth form college and this will not do him much harm. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They should get a job with SKY. Does anyone think SKY is better than the BBC? You&#039;re not serious are you? Where will you all watch period dramas? Still middle England can have their fast food and blue pop advertising to get morally offended by.<br />
The main problem with this &#039;comedy&#039; is that would stretch the humor of any boy over the age of twelve. Ross can be funny clever and cutting edge, but has got fat on his money and his celebrity chums. Brand is sixth form college and this will not do him much harm.</p>
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		<title>By: rose</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/10/28/is-this-public-service-broadcasting/#comment-7456</link>
		<dc:creator>rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 14:54:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The BBC seem to be protecting Mandelson and caricaturing the Shadow Chancellor at a time when we really need to be hearing from both of them, because they fear the Conservatives, if returned, would scrap the licence fee.  Worse, this short-sighted and unpatriotic tactic appears to be working. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The BBC seem to be protecting Mandelson and caricaturing the Shadow Chancellor at a time when we really need to be hearing from both of them, because they fear the Conservatives, if returned, would scrap the licence fee.  Worse, this short-sighted and unpatriotic tactic appears to be working.</p>
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		<title>By: THE ESSEX BOYS</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/10/28/is-this-public-service-broadcasting/#comment-7455</link>
		<dc:creator>THE ESSEX BOYS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 11:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THIS IS NOT GOING AWAY! 
Having seen and heard interviews with the DG, Thompson, and the Trust Chairman, Lyons, it&#039;s easy to see how and why the BBC is out of step with public opinion. They are both (words left out-ed) men in no way up to the task of controlling well-paid, creative and egotistical staff necessary in the broadcasting world. 
 
They are also both fighting a battle to justify the original contract with Ross and the appointment of his own production company. (Brand, too, utilised his own company which obviously creates a conflict in content and editorial decisions) 
 
In other words Thompson &amp; Lyons are acting as judge and jury on their own commercial judgements and therefore compounding the original error in awarding such a costly long-term contract to an erratic performer in the first place.They know they won&#039;t survive if they have to pay out Ross&#039; contract. 
 
Interviewing Lyons this morning John Humphreys crysallised the wider problem. The Thompson/Lyons stategy is to chase a young audience in a way that alienates the bulk of viewers. This may be a suitable high-risk strategy for a commercial channel but not for the public broadcaster financed in the way it is. It is not old-fashioned to expect the BBC to set rather than follow a standard. 
 
Both these senior executives should go and the objectives and strategy altered. 
 
It&#039;s pleasing to see that BBC interviewers - presumably aghast at what has happened - are not mincing words with their senior executives. 
 
This matter is not over by a long chalk. The People are speaking. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THIS IS NOT GOING AWAY!<br />
Having seen and heard interviews with the DG, Thompson, and the Trust Chairman, Lyons, it&#039;s easy to see how and why the BBC is out of step with public opinion. They are both (words left out-ed) men in no way up to the task of controlling well-paid, creative and egotistical staff necessary in the broadcasting world. </p>
<p>They are also both fighting a battle to justify the original contract with Ross and the appointment of his own production company. (Brand, too, utilised his own company which obviously creates a conflict in content and editorial decisions) </p>
<p>In other words Thompson &amp; Lyons are acting as judge and jury on their own commercial judgements and therefore compounding the original error in awarding such a costly long-term contract to an erratic performer in the first place.They know they won&#039;t survive if they have to pay out Ross&#039; contract. </p>
<p>Interviewing Lyons this morning John Humphreys crysallised the wider problem. The Thompson/Lyons stategy is to chase a young audience in a way that alienates the bulk of viewers. This may be a suitable high-risk strategy for a commercial channel but not for the public broadcaster financed in the way it is. It is not old-fashioned to expect the BBC to set rather than follow a standard. </p>
<p>Both these senior executives should go and the objectives and strategy altered. </p>
<p>It&#039;s pleasing to see that BBC interviewers &#8211; presumably aghast at what has happened &#8211; are not mincing words with their senior executives. </p>
<p>This matter is not over by a long chalk. The People are speaking.</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon Riby</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/10/28/is-this-public-service-broadcasting/#comment-7454</link>
		<dc:creator>Gordon Riby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 22:26:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am I the only one who thinks the reaction to the whole affair is disproportionate? Ross and Brand simply played a practical joke that went too far and ended up causing offence. To be frank some people may have taken it as a joke and laugh. But I do understand that it would be offensive to some. Quite rightly apologies were given to Andrew Sachs and his granddaughter. 
 
I, like millions of other people, like Jonathan Ross. I don&#039;t think that he is talentless or obscene. You will forgive me for saying that I think those views are somewhat unrepresentative of the public at large. There were perhaps, 18,000 - 20,000 complaints and the BBC and government and MP&#039;s from both sides of the house all start to wade in and the net result is that I and the MILLIONS of lisence payers who watch Friday Night with Jonathan Ross will not  be able to do so - Even though, as many posters to this thread have pointed out, we have paid alot of money to watch it. The persons concerned and the BBC realise the error and have apologised. End of story - It&#039;s not as if they have committed a capital offence! If the apology is not accepted then it is a matter for those individuals, the BBC and the authorities. It should not affect my rights as a consumer (and committed capitalist! - I&#039;m with you on the abolition of the lisence fee John) and deprive me of my friday night viewing. 
 
The fact that politicians are so eager to cast judgement over the affair and advocate the punative steps of taking Friday Night with Jonathan Ross off the air  makes me affraid that we may return to a situation where politicians try to act as our moral guardians (remember &quot;Back to Basics&quot;) and where a pressure group concerned with our &quot;moral heath and fibre&quot; with a religious agenda gets to tell the rest of us what we can and can&#039;t watch. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I the only one who thinks the reaction to the whole affair is disproportionate? Ross and Brand simply played a practical joke that went too far and ended up causing offence. To be frank some people may have taken it as a joke and laugh. But I do understand that it would be offensive to some. Quite rightly apologies were given to Andrew Sachs and his granddaughter. </p>
<p>I, like millions of other people, like Jonathan Ross. I don&#039;t think that he is talentless or obscene. You will forgive me for saying that I think those views are somewhat unrepresentative of the public at large. There were perhaps, 18,000 &#8211; 20,000 complaints and the BBC and government and MP&#039;s from both sides of the house all start to wade in and the net result is that I and the MILLIONS of lisence payers who watch Friday Night with Jonathan Ross will not  be able to do so &#8211; Even though, as many posters to this thread have pointed out, we have paid alot of money to watch it. The persons concerned and the BBC realise the error and have apologised. End of story &#8211; It&#039;s not as if they have committed a capital offence! If the apology is not accepted then it is a matter for those individuals, the BBC and the authorities. It should not affect my rights as a consumer (and committed capitalist! &#8211; I&#039;m with you on the abolition of the lisence fee John) and deprive me of my friday night viewing. </p>
<p>The fact that politicians are so eager to cast judgement over the affair and advocate the punative steps of taking Friday Night with Jonathan Ross off the air  makes me affraid that we may return to a situation where politicians try to act as our moral guardians (remember &quot;Back to Basics&quot;) and where a pressure group concerned with our &quot;moral heath and fibre&quot; with a religious agenda gets to tell the rest of us what we can and can&#039;t watch.</p>
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		<title>By: THE ESSEX BOYS</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/10/28/is-this-public-service-broadcasting/#comment-7453</link>
		<dc:creator>THE ESSEX BOYS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:57:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This morning&#039;s news regarding the suspension of Ross &amp; Brand  indicates that People Power is working..well to an extent that&#039;s still slightly too soon to fully evaluate. We believe that neither will be allowed back on-air with the BBC so the next round will be for them to negotiate pay-offs on the basis of contracts asurdly signed by the Corporation. 
Here the affair becomes even more interesting. We believe there is a strong case for dismissal for gross industrial misconduct with summary termination of contract without notice or compensation. 
From this will arise any commercially daft clauses ( our bet is that there will be some) to which the BBC agreed. This will enable us to judge the commercial accumen of the men spending our licence fee as well as the lack of judgement of those who administer it on air. 
WATCH THIS SPACE! 
 
STOP PRESS 
We hear that Brand is about to fall on his sword...let&#039;s hear the terms of that and, irresoective, not let Ross off the hook. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This morning&#039;s news regarding the suspension of Ross &amp; Brand  indicates that People Power is working..well to an extent that&#039;s still slightly too soon to fully evaluate. We believe that neither will be allowed back on-air with the BBC so the next round will be for them to negotiate pay-offs on the basis of contracts asurdly signed by the Corporation.<br />
Here the affair becomes even more interesting. We believe there is a strong case for dismissal for gross industrial misconduct with summary termination of contract without notice or compensation.<br />
From this will arise any commercially daft clauses ( our bet is that there will be some) to which the BBC agreed. This will enable us to judge the commercial accumen of the men spending our licence fee as well as the lack of judgement of those who administer it on air.<br />
WATCH THIS SPACE! </p>
<p>STOP PRESS<br />
We hear that Brand is about to fall on his sword&#8230;let&#039;s hear the terms of that and, irresoective, not let Ross off the hook.</p>
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		<title>By: oldtimer</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/10/28/is-this-public-service-broadcasting/#comment-7452</link>
		<dc:creator>oldtimer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once upon a time the BBC may have been a national treasure. Now that notion is just a fairy tale. 
 
The BBC inhabits an ivory tower, run by a self perpetuating management oligarchy, funded by a tax system enforced by snooping detector vans and the criminal law. All the evidence is that it is a self-satisfied, arrogant, bureaucratic and politically biased organisation that is too comfortable in its own self centred world and impervious to external criticism. In short, we have an out of control  monster on our hands. The Ross/Brand episode has served to awaken many people to voice their complaints about this state of affairs. 
 
The chances of reform from within the BBC are slim. New forms of public service broadcasting are needed. These reforms should be funded from the existing licence fee income. Over time, that fee income  should first be frozen at todays cash level and then reduced to something like 50-66% of todays levels. That should be more than enough for the publicly funded, public service element. The BBC should be required to compete for this lower share - or die. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once upon a time the BBC may have been a national treasure. Now that notion is just a fairy tale. </p>
<p>The BBC inhabits an ivory tower, run by a self perpetuating management oligarchy, funded by a tax system enforced by snooping detector vans and the criminal law. All the evidence is that it is a self-satisfied, arrogant, bureaucratic and politically biased organisation that is too comfortable in its own self centred world and impervious to external criticism. In short, we have an out of control  monster on our hands. The Ross/Brand episode has served to awaken many people to voice their complaints about this state of affairs. </p>
<p>The chances of reform from within the BBC are slim. New forms of public service broadcasting are needed. These reforms should be funded from the existing licence fee income. Over time, that fee income  should first be frozen at todays cash level and then reduced to something like 50-66% of todays levels. That should be more than enough for the publicly funded, public service element. The BBC should be required to compete for this lower share &#8211; or die.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Reynolds</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew Reynolds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:52:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have e-mailed the BBC to register my disgust at the ever over-rated Brand and Ross - The Daily Telegraph &amp; Mr Sachs Grand-Daughter are right . The pair of them should be sacked - quite right too ! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have e-mailed the BBC to register my disgust at the ever over-rated Brand and Ross &#8211; The Daily Telegraph &amp; Mr Sachs Grand-Daughter are right . The pair of them should be sacked &#8211; quite right too !</p>
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