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		<title>By: Adrian Peirson</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/10/29/global-warming-sorted/#comment-7482</link>
		<dc:creator>Adrian Peirson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 14:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love my two children, and would have more. 
Indigenous British women already have only 1.8 children per woman which is below replacement levels. 
 
So I have already voluteered. 
 
I&#039;m also suggesting sensible ways in which we can solve, landfill problems, CO2 emmisions, Congestion, Urban Sprawl, Which in turn would allow Our farmers and fishing industry to provide food and fuel security for Great Britain and her Great People that does not involve Taxing them to death, it is not the Great British People that are causing these Problems. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love my two children, and would have more.<br />
Indigenous British women already have only 1.8 children per woman which is below replacement levels. </p>
<p>So I have already voluteered. </p>
<p>I&#039;m also suggesting sensible ways in which we can solve, landfill problems, CO2 emmisions, Congestion, Urban Sprawl, Which in turn would allow Our farmers and fishing industry to provide food and fuel security for Great Britain and her Great People that does not involve Taxing them to death, it is not the Great British People that are causing these Problems.</p>
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		<title>By: DennisA</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/10/29/global-warming-sorted/#comment-7481</link>
		<dc:creator>DennisA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 12:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Population reduction? Are you volunteering? </description>
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		<title>By: Stuart Fairney</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/10/29/global-warming-sorted/#comment-7480</link>
		<dc:creator>Stuart Fairney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 09:46:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I&#039;m afraid I struggle to take lectures from Zacharias and the other eco-elite like Monbiot and Porrit since I need to make my money from commercial activity and not have it impeded by restrictive, anti-industrial eco-lunacy.  Unlike Zacharias, the old man wasn&#039;t a billionaire financier and so this is not an indulgence I can permit myself. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I&#039;m afraid I struggle to take lectures from Zacharias and the other eco-elite like Monbiot and Porrit since I need to make my money from commercial activity and not have it impeded by restrictive, anti-industrial eco-lunacy.  Unlike Zacharias, the old man wasn&#039;t a billionaire financier and so this is not an indulgence I can permit myself.</p>
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		<title>By: DennisA</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/10/29/global-warming-sorted/#comment-7479</link>
		<dc:creator>DennisA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 03:26:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, Xavier, this is another creation by the warmist scientists to justify why their models aren&#039;t working. 
 
This is why global warming had to become climate change and why the Tyndal Centre for Social Engineering,  (sorry, that should be Climate Change Research), came up with this in 2005: &quot;To endorse policy change people must &#8216;believe&#8217; that global warming will become a reality some time in the future. 
&#183;	Only the experience of positive temperature anomalies will be registered as indication of change if the issue is framed as global warming. 
&#183;	Both positive and negative temperature anomalies will be registered in experience as indication of change if the issue is framed as climate change. 
&#183;	We propose that in those countries where climate change has become the predominant popular term for the phenomenon, unseasonably cold temperatures, for example, are also interpreted to reflect climate change/global warming.&quot; 
 
There was of course the 2004 film &quot;The Day After Tomorrow&quot; based on the Gulf Stream scenario but even IPCC don&#039;t consider it to be a likely event and Hadley say it &quot;may &quot; slow. That would however, be millennia into the future, if at all and yet we have cooling now, as we did from 1960-1987. Strangely, CO2 is still rising, as it was in that earlier period. 
 
It turns out that the Gulf Stream doesn&#039;t really do what we are told it does and the scientific reasoning is clearly explained here:  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.americanscientist.org/issues/feature/2006/4/the-source-of-europes-mild-climate/1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.americanscientist.org/issues/feature/2...&lt;/a&gt; 
 
&quot;The Source of Europe&#039;s Mild Climate: The notion that the Gulf Stream is responsible for keeping Europe anomalously warm turns out to be a myth&quot; 
 
I also am disappointed as are other respondents , that the opposition are so in thrall to the Greens that the Party document on energy is virtually that of Friends of the Earth, ( a very hubristic name). 
 
It gives me no-one to vote for, and yet I sense the mood is there for a strong rejection of the AGW scam if only there were more politicians brave enough to shout that the Emperor has no clothes. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, Xavier, this is another creation by the warmist scientists to justify why their models aren&#039;t working. </p>
<p>This is why global warming had to become climate change and why the Tyndal Centre for Social Engineering,  (sorry, that should be Climate Change Research), came up with this in 2005: &quot;To endorse policy change people must &lsquo;believe&rsquo; that global warming will become a reality some time in the future.<br />
&middot;	Only the experience of positive temperature anomalies will be registered as indication of change if the issue is framed as global warming.<br />
&middot;	Both positive and negative temperature anomalies will be registered in experience as indication of change if the issue is framed as climate change.<br />
&middot;	We propose that in those countries where climate change has become the predominant popular term for the phenomenon, unseasonably cold temperatures, for example, are also interpreted to reflect climate change/global warming.&quot; </p>
<p>There was of course the 2004 film &quot;The Day After Tomorrow&quot; based on the Gulf Stream scenario but even IPCC don&#039;t consider it to be a likely event and Hadley say it &quot;may &quot; slow. That would however, be millennia into the future, if at all and yet we have cooling now, as we did from 1960-1987. Strangely, CO2 is still rising, as it was in that earlier period. </p>
<p>It turns out that the Gulf Stream doesn&#039;t really do what we are told it does and the scientific reasoning is clearly explained here:  <a href="http://www.americanscientist.org/issues/feature/2006/4/the-source-of-europes-mild-climate/1" rel="nofollow">http://www.americanscientist.org/issues/feature/2&#8230;</a> </p>
<p>&quot;The Source of Europe&#039;s Mild Climate: The notion that the Gulf Stream is responsible for keeping Europe anomalously warm turns out to be a myth&quot; </p>
<p>I also am disappointed as are other respondents , that the opposition are so in thrall to the Greens that the Party document on energy is virtually that of Friends of the Earth, ( a very hubristic name). </p>
<p>It gives me no-one to vote for, and yet I sense the mood is there for a strong rejection of the AGW scam if only there were more politicians brave enough to shout that the Emperor has no clothes.</p>
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		<title>By: Adrian Peirson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adrian Peirson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 02:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m tempted to think that this is just a Tax scam, Pack em in as tightly as possible and tax them till the Pips squeek. 
 
John, could you not suggest to Gordon Brown that if he is really concerned about emissions in this country then Reducing the Population and planting Billions of trees might help. 
Come to think of it, doing this might also reduce road congestion, housing shortage, landfill Problems, rising prison populations, Welfare overstretch, rising crime... 
 
This approach would be Doubly effective in that billions of Trees would capture billions of Tons of CO2 from the atmosphere. 
 
With a reduced population, we could have a sensible balance between Growing bio fuels and food. 
 
I use Veg Oil in my car, it releases just as much CO2 as PetroDeisel, the advantage is however that this CO2 is only that which was absorbed by the Plant in the previous years Growing season. 
So despite what the Petrochems would have us believe, Plant Based Biofuels Produce no Net CO2 gain to the atmosphere, IE they do not Pollute. 
The argumemt they replace food crops is dealt with by reducing the Population. 
Get the Population Balance right at around 30 Million, and we could be self sufficient in fuel especially as we still have some Nth Sea reserves, begin Reducing the Population now and Peak Oil need not be a Problem. 
 
This would be my prefered solution, less people, more trees, billions of them, and our Local Farmers producing food and fuel for the Great Britain and her people. 
 
but Westminster will not do this, the Petrochems would sell less fuel, the International Bankers, who Own 85% of the worlds Uranium (and the cleanup facilities) would lose out because we wouldn&#039;t need as many, if any Nuclear Power stations. 
and of course there would then be no excuse to shame and then tax us for Polluting our country. 
 
A combination of Power Mad Despotism in Westminster and the Greed of the Globalists are Destroying my country, my childrens Birthright, 
 
What can I do about it. 
 
 
 
Less People, more trees. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m tempted to think that this is just a Tax scam, Pack em in as tightly as possible and tax them till the Pips squeek. </p>
<p>John, could you not suggest to Gordon Brown that if he is really concerned about emissions in this country then Reducing the Population and planting Billions of trees might help.<br />
Come to think of it, doing this might also reduce road congestion, housing shortage, landfill Problems, rising prison populations, Welfare overstretch, rising crime&#8230; </p>
<p>This approach would be Doubly effective in that billions of Trees would capture billions of Tons of CO2 from the atmosphere. </p>
<p>With a reduced population, we could have a sensible balance between Growing bio fuels and food. </p>
<p>I use Veg Oil in my car, it releases just as much CO2 as PetroDeisel, the advantage is however that this CO2 is only that which was absorbed by the Plant in the previous years Growing season.<br />
So despite what the Petrochems would have us believe, Plant Based Biofuels Produce no Net CO2 gain to the atmosphere, IE they do not Pollute.<br />
The argumemt they replace food crops is dealt with by reducing the Population.<br />
Get the Population Balance right at around 30 Million, and we could be self sufficient in fuel especially as we still have some Nth Sea reserves, begin Reducing the Population now and Peak Oil need not be a Problem. </p>
<p>This would be my prefered solution, less people, more trees, billions of them, and our Local Farmers producing food and fuel for the Great Britain and her people. </p>
<p>but Westminster will not do this, the Petrochems would sell less fuel, the International Bankers, who Own 85% of the worlds Uranium (and the cleanup facilities) would lose out because we wouldn&#039;t need as many, if any Nuclear Power stations.<br />
and of course there would then be no excuse to shame and then tax us for Polluting our country. </p>
<p>A combination of Power Mad Despotism in Westminster and the Greed of the Globalists are Destroying my country, my childrens Birthright, </p>
<p>What can I do about it. </p>
<p>Less People, more trees.</p>
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		<title>By: aemkid</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/10/29/global-warming-sorted/#comment-7477</link>
		<dc:creator>aemkid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 21:56:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree and I am glad to see that there are some people in the world that actualy know what they are talking about. Come see my website, it is about this stuff. aemagp.blogspot.com </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree and I am glad to see that there are some people in the world that actualy know what they are talking about. Come see my website, it is about this stuff. aemagp.blogspot.com</p>
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		<title>By: mike stallard</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/10/29/global-warming-sorted/#comment-7476</link>
		<dc:creator>mike stallard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 21:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe in global warming. 
(pero si mueve). </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe in global warming.<br />
(pero si mueve).</p>
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		<title>By: APL</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/10/29/global-warming-sorted/#comment-7475</link>
		<dc:creator>APL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 18:10:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JR: &quot;Yes, far too little I intervened to point out that past targets had not been hit, &quot; 
 
On the contrary, there is a very good chance the UK will meet these targets. Given the governments negligent handling of UK energy policy, we probably will not have any functioning power stations and be too impoverished to import oil by 2050. 
 
How are this stupid government going to reconcile this policy with the fuel poverty policy? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JR: &quot;Yes, far too little I intervened to point out that past targets had not been hit, &quot; </p>
<p>On the contrary, there is a very good chance the UK will meet these targets. Given the governments negligent handling of UK energy policy, we probably will not have any functioning power stations and be too impoverished to import oil by 2050. </p>
<p>How are this stupid government going to reconcile this policy with the fuel poverty policy?</p>
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		<title>By: APL</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/10/29/global-warming-sorted/#comment-7474</link>
		<dc:creator>APL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 18:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stuart Fairney: &quot;Is there anything more futile than some transient minister setting a target for 2050?&quot; 
 
If the Tory party wasn&#039;t the captive of Zak Goldsmith, another eco loonie, we might reasonably expect this leglislation to be repealed should the Tory party actually get into government. 
 
But since it is bought and paid for by Zak, abandon hope of common sense from Cameron on this score! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stuart Fairney: &quot;Is there anything more futile than some transient minister setting a target for 2050?&quot; </p>
<p>If the Tory party wasn&#039;t the captive of Zak Goldsmith, another eco loonie, we might reasonably expect this leglislation to be repealed should the Tory party actually get into government. </p>
<p>But since it is bought and paid for by Zak, abandon hope of common sense from Cameron on this score!</p>
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		<title>By: Blank Xavier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blank Xavier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s possible a big effect of global warming will be to plunge British weather into deep cold. 
 
We&#039;re warm because of the Gulf Stream.  When the planet get hot, the Artic melts and the fresh water pouring into the North Atlantic stops the Gulf Stream from working. 
 
We then start to look a lot like Canada. 
 
Interestingly, in Canada, they are in recent years complaining about unprecedently warm winters; 
 
&quot;In Montreal, the winter was also exceptional. The average temperature in 2002 was the warmest in more than 60 years at -3.3 &#176;C, 5.4 &#176;C above normal. For the first time since records began in 1941, the overnight lows did not reach the -20 &#176;C mark. The number of days with highs above freezing reached 51, an unprecedented number.&quot; 
 
Okay, so warm for them is -20 C overnight.  Every night. 
 
Montreal is four hundred miles SOUTH of London. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#039;s possible a big effect of global warming will be to plunge British weather into deep cold. </p>
<p>We&#039;re warm because of the Gulf Stream.  When the planet get hot, the Artic melts and the fresh water pouring into the North Atlantic stops the Gulf Stream from working. </p>
<p>We then start to look a lot like Canada. </p>
<p>Interestingly, in Canada, they are in recent years complaining about unprecedently warm winters; </p>
<p>&quot;In Montreal, the winter was also exceptional. The average temperature in 2002 was the warmest in more than 60 years at -3.3 &deg;C, 5.4 &deg;C above normal. For the first time since records began in 1941, the overnight lows did not reach the -20 &deg;C mark. The number of days with highs above freezing reached 51, an unprecedented number.&quot; </p>
<p>Okay, so warm for them is -20 C overnight.  Every night. </p>
<p>Montreal is four hundred miles SOUTH of London.</p>
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