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		<title>By: THE ESSEX BOYS</title>
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		<dc:creator>THE ESSEX BOYS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 20:58:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our apologies for using this blog to comment on your previous BBC blog to which we contributed on the Ross/Brand affair. 
 
4 of us, after separately watching yesterday&#039;s select committee appearance by &#039;Batman &amp; Robin&#039;, agreed the top management were truly dire! 
 
They still feel the Ross/Brand problems centred on: 
(a) the internal control system and 
(b) the invasion of Sachs&#039; privacy and rights. 
 
They appear not to recognise that the public were, in the main, disgusted at the nature of the content itself. 
Messrs Lyons &amp; Thompson believe the BBC must be &#039;edgy&#039; and that the public want them to &#039;take risks&#039;. 
Arguably most business decisions involve &#039;risk&#039; - that is the risk of being a good or a bad decision - but are generally made without compromising the ethos and reputation of the business itself. 
Both HAVE been compromised as our BBC - under its current management - have waded further and further into their own murky waters of &#039;edginess&#039; and &#039;risk&#039;. 
 
Lyons is a lone voice in arguing that Ross is worth his &#163;6m pa, which rather confirms how far out of touch he is. Apart from its inflationary effect, has it occured to him to look at the cost per viewer given the numbers for Ross&#039; off-peak tv and radio shows? 
And now Radio 2 has even announced that Ross will return on 24th January before the investigation is complete! Right and left hand? 
 
We believe these senior men fail the Corporation as managers and are way out of step with us, their customers, on what we really want for our &#163;140 a year. Both may well be out of a job if Ross has to go so their personal interests seem to be standing in the way of a BBC with which most licence payers are happy. 
 
Sadly there can be no smugness on their news coverage either as Channel 4 and Sky easily and regularly out-perform them on content, relevance and scoops - and without the bias! 
 
We deserve better and judging by yesterday&#8217;s sad performances, we&#8217;ll get it only after changes at the very top. 
A bit like this Labour Government eh what? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our apologies for using this blog to comment on your previous BBC blog to which we contributed on the Ross/Brand affair. </p>
<p>4 of us, after separately watching yesterday&#039;s select committee appearance by &#039;Batman &amp; Robin&#039;, agreed the top management were truly dire! </p>
<p>They still feel the Ross/Brand problems centred on:<br />
(a) the internal control system and<br />
(b) the invasion of Sachs&#039; privacy and rights. </p>
<p>They appear not to recognise that the public were, in the main, disgusted at the nature of the content itself.<br />
Messrs Lyons &amp; Thompson believe the BBC must be &#039;edgy&#039; and that the public want them to &#039;take risks&#039;.<br />
Arguably most business decisions involve &#039;risk&#039; &#8211; that is the risk of being a good or a bad decision &#8211; but are generally made without compromising the ethos and reputation of the business itself.<br />
Both HAVE been compromised as our BBC &#8211; under its current management &#8211; have waded further and further into their own murky waters of &#039;edginess&#039; and &#039;risk&#039;. </p>
<p>Lyons is a lone voice in arguing that Ross is worth his &pound;6m pa, which rather confirms how far out of touch he is. Apart from its inflationary effect, has it occured to him to look at the cost per viewer given the numbers for Ross&#039; off-peak tv and radio shows?<br />
And now Radio 2 has even announced that Ross will return on 24th January before the investigation is complete! Right and left hand? </p>
<p>We believe these senior men fail the Corporation as managers and are way out of step with us, their customers, on what we really want for our &pound;140 a year. Both may well be out of a job if Ross has to go so their personal interests seem to be standing in the way of a BBC with which most licence payers are happy. </p>
<p>Sadly there can be no smugness on their news coverage either as Channel 4 and Sky easily and regularly out-perform them on content, relevance and scoops &#8211; and without the bias! </p>
<p>We deserve better and judging by yesterday&rsquo;s sad performances, we&rsquo;ll get it only after changes at the very top.<br />
A bit like this Labour Government eh what? </p>
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		<title>By: number 6</title>
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		<dc:creator>number 6</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 13:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How long before the Consveratives pledge to ditch the current BBC &#039;telly tax&#039; mode of funding. I would support that 100 percent. The BBC has long ceased to be impartial and spouts the socialist/green party line at every opportunity. 
 
There are gems in their canon of programming (mainly in entertainment and documentaries) so let them follow the US public broadcast system of funding and still remain commercial free, but funded by people who want to watch the output via direct donations/pledges. I know, I stumped up a few bucks to PBS when I lived stateside to watch quality telly (a lot of which was from the BBC) and did not object to doing so. I do object to having to pay, wheter I want to or not, for BBC outputI do not watch or listen to. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How long before the Consveratives pledge to ditch the current BBC &#039;telly tax&#039; mode of funding. I would support that 100 percent. The BBC has long ceased to be impartial and spouts the socialist/green party line at every opportunity. </p>
<p>There are gems in their canon of programming (mainly in entertainment and documentaries) so let them follow the US public broadcast system of funding and still remain commercial free, but funded by people who want to watch the output via direct donations/pledges. I know, I stumped up a few bucks to PBS when I lived stateside to watch quality telly (a lot of which was from the BBC) and did not object to doing so. I do object to having to pay, wheter I want to or not, for BBC outputI do not watch or listen to. </p>
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		<title>By: Rose</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 20:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I watched the whole of the Marr Show and could see exactly why Mandelson&#039;s  people want to get rid of George: he is very good at explaining feaerlessly what is happening. 
 
PM has been brought back to do what he is good at: sowing dissension in Tory ranks in time for the early election they are obviously planning in the wake of all this bribery, and squaring the media.  But George did make an impact on the later bulletins, some of which actually picked up his two main deadly serious points. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I watched the whole of the Marr Show and could see exactly why Mandelson&#039;s  people want to get rid of George: he is very good at explaining feaerlessly what is happening. </p>
<p>PM has been brought back to do what he is good at: sowing dissension in Tory ranks in time for the early election they are obviously planning in the wake of all this bribery, and squaring the media.  But George did make an impact on the later bulletins, some of which actually picked up his two main deadly serious points. </p>
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		<title>By: mikestallard</title>
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		<dc:creator>mikestallard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 19:18:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I watched the interview with George Osborne on BBC. 
I usually like Andrew Marr, but to see him hunched forward in attack position and picking away at what might (for him) be a good story, rather than sensibly asking what was wrong and what ought to be done about it upset me. 
I couldn&#039;t bear to watch the rest of the show. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I watched the interview with George Osborne on BBC.<br />
I usually like Andrew Marr, but to see him hunched forward in attack position and picking away at what might (for him) be a good story, rather than sensibly asking what was wrong and what ought to be done about it upset me.<br />
I couldn&#039;t bear to watch the rest of the show. </p>
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		<title>By: mikestallard</title>
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		<dc:creator>mikestallard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 19:14:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It really does not pay to tell tales about what went on on board Mr Deripaska&#039;s yacht, does it. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It really does not pay to tell tales about what went on on board Mr Deripaska&#039;s yacht, does it. </p>
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		<title>By: Stuart Fairney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stuart Fairney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 19:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said.  The number of us who support your position James is rather more then the BBC might imagine. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said.  The number of us who support your position James is rather more then the BBC might imagine. </p>
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		<title>By: Mr C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 17:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why are the Labour/BBC spinners going for Osborne? It&#8217;s quite straightforward really. If they can succeed in derailing Osborne then by extension the spinners can call into question the competence of Conservative financial policy as a whole. This would leave Brown free to pursue his cynical &#8216;world wide financial saviour&#8217; act, without serious challenge and explains the ad hominen attacks on Osborne over the past few weeks. 
 
Osborne&#039;s long overdue comments about Sterling have put the cat amongst the pigeons, as the pound&#8217;s recent weakness exposes the dangerous shallowness of Brown&#039;s imprudent and ill-considered financial policies. 
 
Labour doesn&#8217;t simply doesn&#8217;t have the option of cutting public expenditure to fund its proposed tax breaks or ill thought out bailouts. They cannot do so without alienating their &#8216;payroll&#8217; vote. So it&#8217;s printing money all the way! Brown&#8217;s government has put its own survival- quite literally at any cost- above the national interest. The BBC&#8217;s angle? Well, I gave up on them years ago as a source of independent news or analysis. 
 
But you can&#039;t buck the markets. And the currency markets have been voting with their wallets against Brown&#8217;s policies. Unfortunately it&#8217;s the British taxpayer who picks up the bill. By calling Labour out on the recent decline in Sterling, Osborne has publicly demonstrated that Emperor Brown has no clothes. Hence the desperate attempts by the Labour/BBC establishment to close down the debate. 
 
But never fear! The British public are smarter than Brown and the BBC thinks. Those of us outside of the Westminster bubble can see for ourselves that the decline in Sterling started on Brown&#8217;s watch, months before Osborne opened his mouth. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why are the Labour/BBC spinners going for Osborne? It&rsquo;s quite straightforward really. If they can succeed in derailing Osborne then by extension the spinners can call into question the competence of Conservative financial policy as a whole. This would leave Brown free to pursue his cynical &lsquo;world wide financial saviour&rsquo; act, without serious challenge and explains the ad hominen attacks on Osborne over the past few weeks. </p>
<p>Osborne&#039;s long overdue comments about Sterling have put the cat amongst the pigeons, as the pound&rsquo;s recent weakness exposes the dangerous shallowness of Brown&#039;s imprudent and ill-considered financial policies. </p>
<p>Labour doesn&rsquo;t simply doesn&rsquo;t have the option of cutting public expenditure to fund its proposed tax breaks or ill thought out bailouts. They cannot do so without alienating their &lsquo;payroll&rsquo; vote. So it&rsquo;s printing money all the way! Brown&rsquo;s government has put its own survival- quite literally at any cost- above the national interest. The BBC&rsquo;s angle? Well, I gave up on them years ago as a source of independent news or analysis. </p>
<p>But you can&#039;t buck the markets. And the currency markets have been voting with their wallets against Brown&rsquo;s policies. Unfortunately it&rsquo;s the British taxpayer who picks up the bill. By calling Labour out on the recent decline in Sterling, Osborne has publicly demonstrated that Emperor Brown has no clothes. Hence the desperate attempts by the Labour/BBC establishment to close down the debate. </p>
<p>But never fear! The British public are smarter than Brown and the BBC thinks. Those of us outside of the Westminster bubble can see for ourselves that the decline in Sterling started on Brown&rsquo;s watch, months before Osborne opened his mouth. </p>
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		<title>By: james barr</title>
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		<dc:creator>james barr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John, 
 
The bias of the BBC is unbelievable. The communique from the G20 does not support out and out fiscal stimuli as Gordy would have us believe. So why do the BBC report it as if this was the case? I&#039;d like to think that the BBC are not paid up members of the Nu Liebour project but Robinson, Peston et al do their utmost to create this impression. The first quango to be axed should be the BBC! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, </p>
<p>The bias of the BBC is unbelievable. The communique from the G20 does not support out and out fiscal stimuli as Gordy would have us believe. So why do the BBC report it as if this was the case? I&#039;d like to think that the BBC are not paid up members of the Nu Liebour project but Robinson, Peston et al do their utmost to create this impression. The first quango to be axed should be the BBC! </p>
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		<title>By: DBC Reed</title>
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		<dc:creator>DBC Reed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 14:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All sections of Tory Party including leader might try showing unequivocal support for Osborne: he should at least be given a shot at  Pre-Budget statement ( only next week!). 
Nasty Party reverts to type : any weakness at the front of dog-team and they tear you to pieces.Not edifying. 
Are n&#039;t the Buller sworn to lifelong mutual support? I seem to remember Boris at least pretending to help Darius Guppy when he was in porridge-connected trouble. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All sections of Tory Party including leader might try showing unequivocal support for Osborne: he should at least be given a shot at  Pre-Budget statement ( only next week!).<br />
Nasty Party reverts to type : any weakness at the front of dog-team and they tear you to pieces.Not edifying.<br />
Are n&#039;t the Buller sworn to lifelong mutual support? I seem to remember Boris at least pretending to help Darius Guppy when he was in porridge-connected trouble. </p>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 14:13:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The spin by Al-jaBeeba is nothing short of outrageous and has been going on for ages. 
Something really needs to be done about them. 
They are supposed to be neutral. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The spin by Al-jaBeeba is nothing short of outrageous and has been going on for ages.<br />
Something really needs to be done about them.<br />
They are supposed to be neutral. </p>
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