Comments on: More Labour lies – it’s all they have left

By: jean baker

jean baker — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 19:29:04 +0000

Live debates and interviews prove otherwise with all your assertions. The Opposition Party, like Obama, focuses on the job in hand – working for the good of the nation amid financial meltdown caused by others' gross maladministration.

By: Lee Taylor

Lee Taylor — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 23:12:16 +0000

I think it is symptomatic of just how the politics of the UK has become debased by the likes of Hazel Blears when you see how many people who fail to turn out at election time. We are disillusioned by the sheer mediocrity of most of the government but the opposition to my mind lacks the ruthlessness needed to consign Labour and socialism to the scrap yard.

When I was young I looked up to politicians assuming that they had been well educated and were intelligent people by and large. However I recently came across an article in the Telegraph by Douglas Alexander. He claimed that Brown and Labour could win the next election. The article was absolute drivel and I felt could have been written far better by a fifth form schoolboy/girl. The Tories need to do better and need to rise above the childishness of Labour.

By: adam

adam — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 22:52:35 +0000

Just watching the G20 summit system. Gordon is unbelieveable. He is feeling confident again accusing the conservatives of everything he is guilty of.

Funny that Gordon has found a sudden interest in tax cuts. Once he found out the G20 and IMF were going to put it forward.

Also it is funny to see Gordon defend himself by the IMF, first of all its Gordon who tailored his policy to agree with the IMF not the other way around.
Secondly, i thought the IMF was the enemy which promoted Thatcherism.

And PM why has the pound collapsed? He cant answer.
He doesnt know why the credit crunch happened either.
He is lost and confused.
He is a globalist who looks for global solutions to everything, not British solutions.
He doesnt deserve to be PM.

By: Lola

Lola — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 13:00:59 +0000

Yep, it's the basic paradox of the leftites. If they hold that mankind is imperfetct and must be forced to be perfect according to rules set by them, who are also part of mankind their rules by association must also be imperfect. And BANG! up they go in a puff of logic.

By: peter

peter — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 01:20:33 +0000

I hope in the near future the bbc is made to live in unbiased real world

By: Lola

Lola — Wed, 19 Nov 2008 21:46:03 +0000

Thank you. Me too.

By: mikestallard

mikestallard — Wed, 19 Nov 2008 21:37:10 +0000

It is wrong to hate people – anyone. It is wrong to attack the man, not the ball.
The trouble is that Socialism has certain characteristics: It believes that human nature is perfectable, if necessary by force and by control by a few "cadres".
Socialists believe in the overwhelming power of the State, during the lead up to the coming of Communism. Socialism allows dictatorship, when that becomes necessary to bring about perfection in humankind. Socialism is not necessarily democratic at all.
Socialists believe in excluding other class movements from power by any means to hand, often quite ruthlessly. Family, children's upbringing and education, religion, art and any form of culture are to be swept away and "improved" by the state. Family, religion etc are seen as part of the class war, to be controlled by the State.
Socialists also believe in revolution, in the sense that the future, not the past, is the place to look for inspiration. Old institutions should be swept away, if necessary by force. Parliament (both houses), the Queen, the army, the are all part of this debunking.

I am afraid, that at the end of the day, we humans just are not perfectable. So all the force in the world does not achieve anything much except for abject misery.
I do not think, myself, that the complete chaos left by every single Labour government in their existence has been a fluke: I think it comes with the package. It has been deliberate.

that is why I shall be very pleased when the lib Dems become the loyal opposition.

By: Lola

Lola — Wed, 19 Nov 2008 19:17:00 +0000

The title of your piece – 'More Labour Lies – It's all they have left' – got me thinking.

Are you tribal about Labour? I mean, do you feel that they are the scum of the earth and should be destroyed? Rather as I understand that Brown feels about Tories.

Or are you just exasperated by this Government's version of Socialism (as in Socialism Not) and the deceit by which it has plied its trade? In other words you do not hate Socialists as such, holding perhaps that it is a political philosophy with an honourable intent (fatally flawed of course) whose best purpose is to illuminate by comparison the better and more rational alternatives, but you are finally fed up with the awful and deceitful behaviour of the current government?

Reply: I think the socialist strand of thought is a part of vibrant democracy. I just dislike people who deliberately misrepresent the views of their opponents in an effort to stifle debate, instead of welcoming a proper democractic debate about which is the better policy or idea.

By: DBC Reed

DBC Reed — Wed, 19 Nov 2008 12:48:13 +0000

Mr Redwood,
Someone needs to set the record straight about the allegation that you recommended the deregulation of mortgages.
Google searches throw up any number of responses to your name and this proposal: a large cluster around August 2007 e.g. an organisation called Mortgage Strategy on 20th August 2007 " A Conservative Party think tank has called for mortgage regulation to be scrapped"and more recently Johan Hari of the Independent : "(Cameron's)Competitiveness spokesman has suggested copying the US deregulation of mortgages" .
I would surmise that political researchers are providing your opponents with quotes like these.
DBC Reed

By: Man in a Shed

Man in a Shed — Tue, 18 Nov 2008 22:53:27 +0000

John, you should be careful. These lies can stick, indeed they did in 2005.

The only core competence of the New Labour gang has been media and public opinion manipulation. 2005 showed how good they are at it.

You must respond and rebut every lie with vigour and outrage. I've notice a set debating style in senior Labour politicians, they always interrupt other when they are making good points and like Brown they hide lies within lies – for example his accusation that George Osborn was attacking the economy, then he was warning about government policy.

They are devious snakes.