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	<title>Comments on: Citibank and Woolworths &#8211; signs of the times</title>
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		<title>By: Robert Arnold</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/11/24/citibank-and-woolworths-signs-of-the-times/#comment-8394</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Arnold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 18:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this the George Gittos I was in the army with (Hamburg, Elke&lt; Brunsbuttelkoog) Hohne? If so do pls get in touch, George _ wd love to hear from you! robertjarnold@gmail.com </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this the George Gittos I was in the army with (Hamburg, Elke&lt; Brunsbuttelkoog) Hohne? If so do pls get in touch, George _ wd love to hear from you! <a href="mailto:robertjarnold@gmail.com">robertjarnold@gmail.com</a> </p>
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		<title>By: adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 23:47:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They have been in trouble for years. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They have been in trouble for years. </p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/11/24/citibank-and-woolworths-signs-of-the-times/#comment-8392</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 06:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my initial thought upon hearing about Citibank&#039;s potential bankrupcy was, Yipee! this will cancel out the small fortune&#039;s worth of debt I have stored up on my trusty Citi-card... right? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my initial thought upon hearing about Citibank&#039;s potential bankrupcy was, Yipee! this will cancel out the small fortune&#039;s worth of debt I have stored up on my trusty Citi-card&#8230; right? </p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 00:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is Woolworths really a sign of the credit crunch?  I&#039;ve never been able to work out its reason for existing, and judging by the number of the people in their shops over the last few years, not just since the recession started, I don&#039;t think anyone else can either. 
 
They started off life as an early example of a pound shop, except that in those days it was a 3d &amp; 6d shop.  Poundland and other similar stores are doing better than they were before as a result of the recession and are expanding, but Woolworths seems to have completely lost the way, and has been performing poorly in both good times and bad times. 
 
They&#039;ve already vanished in their native America, and completely transformed into a different business in Australia. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is Woolworths really a sign of the credit crunch?  I&#039;ve never been able to work out its reason for existing, and judging by the number of the people in their shops over the last few years, not just since the recession started, I don&#039;t think anyone else can either. </p>
<p>They started off life as an early example of a pound shop, except that in those days it was a 3d &amp; 6d shop.  Poundland and other similar stores are doing better than they were before as a result of the recession and are expanding, but Woolworths seems to have completely lost the way, and has been performing poorly in both good times and bad times. </p>
<p>They&#039;ve already vanished in their native America, and completely transformed into a different business in Australia. </p>
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		<title>By: adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 22:34:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you do launch as a PLC then my private equity firm would be interested in taking control. We use leverage from the banks to buy your shares then transfer the debt onto your books. 
We will need to sell your assets to finance the usury while taking a 5% cut of every transaction for our own company. 
 
Should make my LLC lots of money. 
 
Yours 
Vulture Capital Limited </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you do launch as a PLC then my private equity firm would be interested in taking control. We use leverage from the banks to buy your shares then transfer the debt onto your books.<br />
We will need to sell your assets to finance the usury while taking a 5% cut of every transaction for our own company. </p>
<p>Should make my LLC lots of money. </p>
<p>Yours<br />
Vulture Capital Limited </p>
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		<title>By: adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 22:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was in a Woolworths once, i wanted to top up my phone. Instead the( money went without topping it up -ed). 
I should have asked for the reciept, silly 
me for thinking i could trust a high street store 
 
I glanced at the job application form on the counter, they wanted four references. 
Most people looking for temporary work at Woolworths will not have four references, they may have one. I thought the only people they will end up employing are liars. 
 
Good riddance to a defunct business culture and failing executives who cant even make a success of one of the biggest brands on the highstreet. 
 
Lets hope the longtime bankrupt US auto industry isnt a bellweather for corporate USA. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was in a Woolworths once, i wanted to top up my phone. Instead the( money went without topping it up -ed).<br />
I should have asked for the reciept, silly<br />
me for thinking i could trust a high street store </p>
<p>I glanced at the job application form on the counter, they wanted four references.<br />
Most people looking for temporary work at Woolworths will not have four references, they may have one. I thought the only people they will end up employing are liars. </p>
<p>Good riddance to a defunct business culture and failing executives who cant even make a success of one of the biggest brands on the highstreet. </p>
<p>Lets hope the longtime bankrupt US auto industry isnt a bellweather for corporate USA. </p>
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		<title>By: Blank Xavier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blank Xavier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 22:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;The idea of legislating to force the banks to lend is bizarre 
 
It&#039;s far worse than bizzare.  It is socialism.  It is beginning to approach State mediated credit allocation.  The harm to the economy will be immense and the corruption of State will be huge.  I have *never* known a State which controls credit allocation *not* to become deeply corrupt. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;The idea of legislating to force the banks to lend is bizarre </p>
<p>It&#039;s far worse than bizzare.  It is socialism.  It is beginning to approach State mediated credit allocation.  The harm to the economy will be immense and the corruption of State will be huge.  I have *never* known a State which controls credit allocation *not* to become deeply corrupt. </p>
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		<title>By: james barr</title>
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		<dc:creator>james barr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 20:44:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There was nothing new about Labour leaking all the details before the Chancellor&#039;s statement. They are a thoroughly discredited group of politicians. Brown was a disastrous Chancellor, is an unelected Prime Minister and Darling is simply his bag carrier. It&#039;s time for Labour to exit the scene. As ever, they leave the country in a truly awful mess. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was nothing new about Labour leaking all the details before the Chancellor&#039;s statement. They are a thoroughly discredited group of politicians. Brown was a disastrous Chancellor, is an unelected Prime Minister and Darling is simply his bag carrier. It&#039;s time for Labour to exit the scene. As ever, they leave the country in a truly awful mess. </p>
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		<title>By: Donitz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 19:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I refer you to the government exec commitee: YTC-BIOSE which specialises in matters of such ilk. 
 
The Dept for the &quot;You too can blame it on somebody else&quot;. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I refer you to the government exec commitee: YTC-BIOSE which specialises in matters of such ilk. </p>
<p>The Dept for the &quot;You too can blame it on somebody else&quot;. </p>
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		<title>By: Peter Osborne</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/11/24/citibank-and-woolworths-signs-of-the-times/#comment-8385</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Osborne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 18:45:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the government has missed a big trick with respect to pension deregulation. Two years ago Gordon Brown, as Chancellor, came very close on what became known as &#039;A Day&#039; when pensions would be massively simplified. Amongst other things this would have meant that the asset classes acceptable to self invested pension plans (SIPPs) would be de-restricted. At the last minute he decided against this simplification, it is believed because he was concerned about the inflationary effect on house prices as people bought property as a pension investment. 
 
Well times have changed and the one thing the government is desperate to do is to inject momentum into the housing and retail markets. And this is how to do it.  This example is my own but illustrates the principles well. The same logic would apply to any asset class and any collectible. 
 
I deal in art and art is the only thing I know about. Currently I am not allowed to put art into my pension fund and am forced to watch the fund managers lose a substantial part of my fund investing as they do in the stock markets. Millions of others are in the same position. 
 
It is possible within a SIPP to hold cash and I am more than happy that I saw a crash coming and chose for the last two years to put my pension contributions into a deposit account which has grown by 6% pa. (If I had handed it over to my fund managers I would have lost 25% at least by now) 
 
So I am sitting on cash, like thousands of others. Just what the government doesn&#8217;t want. 
 
Imagine that I could buy art for my pension fund. (It is another argument as to why, with my money, at my risk I can&#039;t anyway). 
 
Step 1.  I take &#163;10,000 out of my SIPP and buy a picture (triggering a VAT benefit to the taxman and possibly increased corporation tax from my supplier) 
 
Step 2. I consign it to my gallery 
 
Step 3. I sell it through my gallery for &#163;20,000 and split the profit (triggering a VAT charge, and a possible corporation tax increase) 
 
Step 4. I put &#163;15,000 back into my SIPP. 
 
Step 5. I take out an extra &#163;5,000 when I draw down my pension, (triggering a personal tax charge) 
 
 
Obviously Steps 2 to 5 don&#8217;t necessarily take place, but it is rather logical and there are several extra tax benefits from this investment with no downside to the government, only to me.  And the scenario I have described does suit well those who work in sectors that deal in &#039;investibles&#039; thus providing potential liquidity that may not be as accessible for others. 
 
I understand that one reason why a relaxation of the restrictions did not occur is that the Inland Revenue was concerned about a lack of expertise for valuations. Well a body of accredited Appraisers would deal with that, following the model in many other countries such as USA. 
 
I am sure there are flaws in my argument and I would be interested to hear what they are. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the government has missed a big trick with respect to pension deregulation. Two years ago Gordon Brown, as Chancellor, came very close on what became known as &#039;A Day&#039; when pensions would be massively simplified. Amongst other things this would have meant that the asset classes acceptable to self invested pension plans (SIPPs) would be de-restricted. At the last minute he decided against this simplification, it is believed because he was concerned about the inflationary effect on house prices as people bought property as a pension investment. </p>
<p>Well times have changed and the one thing the government is desperate to do is to inject momentum into the housing and retail markets. And this is how to do it.  This example is my own but illustrates the principles well. The same logic would apply to any asset class and any collectible. </p>
<p>I deal in art and art is the only thing I know about. Currently I am not allowed to put art into my pension fund and am forced to watch the fund managers lose a substantial part of my fund investing as they do in the stock markets. Millions of others are in the same position. </p>
<p>It is possible within a SIPP to hold cash and I am more than happy that I saw a crash coming and chose for the last two years to put my pension contributions into a deposit account which has grown by 6% pa. (If I had handed it over to my fund managers I would have lost 25% at least by now) </p>
<p>So I am sitting on cash, like thousands of others. Just what the government doesn&rsquo;t want. </p>
<p>Imagine that I could buy art for my pension fund. (It is another argument as to why, with my money, at my risk I can&#039;t anyway). </p>
<p>Step 1.  I take &pound;10,000 out of my SIPP and buy a picture (triggering a VAT benefit to the taxman and possibly increased corporation tax from my supplier) </p>
<p>Step 2. I consign it to my gallery </p>
<p>Step 3. I sell it through my gallery for &pound;20,000 and split the profit (triggering a VAT charge, and a possible corporation tax increase) </p>
<p>Step 4. I put &pound;15,000 back into my SIPP. </p>
<p>Step 5. I take out an extra &pound;5,000 when I draw down my pension, (triggering a personal tax charge) </p>
<p>Obviously Steps 2 to 5 don&rsquo;t necessarily take place, but it is rather logical and there are several extra tax benefits from this investment with no downside to the government, only to me.  And the scenario I have described does suit well those who work in sectors that deal in &#039;investibles&#039; thus providing potential liquidity that may not be as accessible for others. </p>
<p>I understand that one reason why a relaxation of the restrictions did not occur is that the Inland Revenue was concerned about a lack of expertise for valuations. Well a body of accredited Appraisers would deal with that, following the model in many other countries such as USA. </p>
<p>I am sure there are flaws in my argument and I would be interested to hear what they are. </p>
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