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		<title>By: Hamish Dibley</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/01/31/warm-front-can-be-cold-comfort/#comment-83701</link>
		<dc:creator>Hamish Dibley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 22:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Warm Front forms part of a government drive to tackle (or in reality plaster over) fuel poverty. The Warm Homes and Energy Conservation Act of 2000 placed a requirement on government to ensure (as reasonably as it could) that people do not live in fuel poverty. The UK Fuel Poverty Strategy of November 2001 set targets to eradicate fuel poverty across England by 2016. The Warm Front scheme is a key programme of the Department of Energy and Climate Change (DECC) to tackle fuel poverty by improving energy efficiency in private homes.

DECC relies (being the operative word) on a private contractor, Newcastle-based Eaga to administer and manage 139 contractors including 7 wholly-owned subsidies responsible for heating and installation measures. Around 25 per cent of customers have had to contribute to the costs of the work (average £600 contributions) and are not able to obtain other quotes! Over 20,000 applicants have either withdrawn or not progressed their applications. It is predicted 2012 will see a significant underspend (£30 million) caused due to applicants er... not applying for the work!! And remember the purpose of the scheme was to help vulnerable households. 

Meanwhile Eaga have made a fortune whilst claiming to have delivered £240 million worth of savings (if the experience of poor customer service is common and you factor in the failure demand (not doing something or something right for the customer) and resulting &#039;rework&#039; (making up for botched jobs done the first, second, third... times round), this figure is absolute rubbish.  

There is also a Carbon Emissions Reductions Target (CERT) whereby utility companies pay Eaga to install installation measures on their behalf - claimed £45 million savings (again for the reasons above is this a pie-in-the-sky nonsense figure). In recent times the scheme has been scaled back. It is alleged that a sizeable number of complaints go unreported (after all it is not in the interests of sub-contractors to report complaints as they risk fines). Eaga claim to take 3 months or 64 working days to have heating systems installed and five weeks or 27 working days to have property insulated. Again for the failure and rework issues, take these numbers with a large pinch of salt (they are not even impressive even if they undertook quality work).

All in all the Warm Front scheme is a classic example of how Whitehall wastes soooooo much money (it doesn&#039;t matter what political party forms the government - most politicians are equally clueless about management and work) - write a strategy and come up with a whizzy scheme and don&#039;t worry about the operations = how it gets delivered and by whom. Meanwhile, unscrupulous commercial carpetbaggers have a field-day - it would be funny if it didn&#039;t occur so often.

Rant over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Warm Front forms part of a government drive to tackle (or in reality plaster over) fuel poverty. The Warm Homes and Energy Conservation Act of 2000 placed a requirement on government to ensure (as reasonably as it could) that people do not live in fuel poverty. The UK Fuel Poverty Strategy of November 2001 set targets to eradicate fuel poverty across England by 2016. The Warm Front scheme is a key programme of the Department of Energy and Climate Change (DECC) to tackle fuel poverty by improving energy efficiency in private homes.</p>
<p>DECC relies (being the operative word) on a private contractor, Newcastle-based Eaga to administer and manage 139 contractors including 7 wholly-owned subsidies responsible for heating and installation measures. Around 25 per cent of customers have had to contribute to the costs of the work (average £600 contributions) and are not able to obtain other quotes! Over 20,000 applicants have either withdrawn or not progressed their applications. It is predicted 2012 will see a significant underspend (£30 million) caused due to applicants er&#8230; not applying for the work!! And remember the purpose of the scheme was to help vulnerable households. </p>
<p>Meanwhile Eaga have made a fortune whilst claiming to have delivered £240 million worth of savings (if the experience of poor customer service is common and you factor in the failure demand (not doing something or something right for the customer) and resulting &#8216;rework&#8217; (making up for botched jobs done the first, second, third&#8230; times round), this figure is absolute rubbish.  </p>
<p>There is also a Carbon Emissions Reductions Target (CERT) whereby utility companies pay Eaga to install installation measures on their behalf &#8211; claimed £45 million savings (again for the reasons above is this a pie-in-the-sky nonsense figure). In recent times the scheme has been scaled back. It is alleged that a sizeable number of complaints go unreported (after all it is not in the interests of sub-contractors to report complaints as they risk fines). Eaga claim to take 3 months or 64 working days to have heating systems installed and five weeks or 27 working days to have property insulated. Again for the failure and rework issues, take these numbers with a large pinch of salt (they are not even impressive even if they undertook quality work).</p>
<p>All in all the Warm Front scheme is a classic example of how Whitehall wastes soooooo much money (it doesn&#8217;t matter what political party forms the government &#8211; most politicians are equally clueless about management and work) &#8211; write a strategy and come up with a whizzy scheme and don&#8217;t worry about the operations = how it gets delivered and by whom. Meanwhile, unscrupulous commercial carpetbaggers have a field-day &#8211; it would be funny if it didn&#8217;t occur so often.</p>
<p>Rant over.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Tully</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/01/31/warm-front-can-be-cold-comfort/#comment-10726</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Tully</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 23:42:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My parents used the Warm Front scheme in November 2004, they had an old boiler replaced with an Ideal Isar, a thermostat fitted, one radiator moved in the kitchen, and pipe work to the other radiators in the house.

After around a year the they had problems, the boiler would randomly turn on the hot water when taps were not running (thus using gas when it wasn&#039;t needed), and one kitchen wall suddenly became very damp. Eventually the problem was found, under the kitchen floor, one of the hot water pipes had a junction that used to lead to the radiator that had been moved, instead of capping the junction properly, the warm front contractor had simply flattened the end of the pipe and bent it over, this adhoc seal had failed, and had being spraying hot water under the floorboards and up the kitchen wall for approximately 6 months. Due to this an industrial dehumidifier had to be hired to dry out the kitchen floor and  the wall needed re-plastering and decorating, this was done through the house insurance, though only after paying the excess.

Earlier this year the boiler broke down and needed a replacement gas valve, a repair that cost £175, the heating engineer who did the work said it was a shame that the warm front scheme had turned out as it had, because in his opinion the Ideal Isar was so unreliable as to be almost unfit for purpose and had some of the more expensive parts in the market. He stated that his company would no longer install the Isar boilers for clients as they had so many of them fail.

This evening, the boiler had broken down again, and is at this minute completely dead, thus requiring the engineer out again for the second time this year. I may add that there are signs of limescale and corrosion around the bottom of the boiler tank, which is not an encouraging sign in a boiler that is not yet 6 years old.

I can&#039;t help feel that the Warm Front Scheme has been used line someones pockets, and that penny pinching on the boilers themselves has resulted in sub standard, unreliable equipment being installed in the homes of the elderly.

What should have been a great scheme that provided those that need it the most with reliable, efficient central heating and hot water,  has for my family at least left a rather bitter taste in the mouth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My parents used the Warm Front scheme in November 2004, they had an old boiler replaced with an Ideal Isar, a thermostat fitted, one radiator moved in the kitchen, and pipe work to the other radiators in the house.</p>
<p>After around a year the they had problems, the boiler would randomly turn on the hot water when taps were not running (thus using gas when it wasn&#8217;t needed), and one kitchen wall suddenly became very damp. Eventually the problem was found, under the kitchen floor, one of the hot water pipes had a junction that used to lead to the radiator that had been moved, instead of capping the junction properly, the warm front contractor had simply flattened the end of the pipe and bent it over, this adhoc seal had failed, and had being spraying hot water under the floorboards and up the kitchen wall for approximately 6 months. Due to this an industrial dehumidifier had to be hired to dry out the kitchen floor and  the wall needed re-plastering and decorating, this was done through the house insurance, though only after paying the excess.</p>
<p>Earlier this year the boiler broke down and needed a replacement gas valve, a repair that cost £175, the heating engineer who did the work said it was a shame that the warm front scheme had turned out as it had, because in his opinion the Ideal Isar was so unreliable as to be almost unfit for purpose and had some of the more expensive parts in the market. He stated that his company would no longer install the Isar boilers for clients as they had so many of them fail.</p>
<p>This evening, the boiler had broken down again, and is at this minute completely dead, thus requiring the engineer out again for the second time this year. I may add that there are signs of limescale and corrosion around the bottom of the boiler tank, which is not an encouraging sign in a boiler that is not yet 6 years old.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t help feel that the Warm Front Scheme has been used line someones pockets, and that penny pinching on the boilers themselves has resulted in sub standard, unreliable equipment being installed in the homes of the elderly.</p>
<p>What should have been a great scheme that provided those that need it the most with reliable, efficient central heating and hot water,  has for my family at least left a rather bitter taste in the mouth.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/01/31/warm-front-can-be-cold-comfort/#comment-10725</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 10:26:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does it not seem odd that EAGA of Newcastle upon Tyne have been awarded the contract by the government and yet one of the main contractors, at least for the Essex area, are Iguana.
Iguana&#039;s registered business address is EAGA House, in Newcastle!
It seems that the contracts for the installation have been awarded to their own sub-contractors.(Did others bid? ed - Why do you think this odd?)
Incidently I must declare an interest here. We are contractors for the £300 Warm Front voucher scheme but have been unable to get onto the full contract scheme.
(words left out)
Reply: I suggest you take this matter up through your own MP or directly if you think something is wrong with the handling of this matter. You need to have some evidence to back up any allegation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does it not seem odd that EAGA of Newcastle upon Tyne have been awarded the contract by the government and yet one of the main contractors, at least for the Essex area, are Iguana.<br />
Iguana&#8217;s registered business address is EAGA House, in Newcastle!<br />
It seems that the contracts for the installation have been awarded to their own sub-contractors.(Did others bid? ed &#8211; Why do you think this odd?)<br />
Incidently I must declare an interest here. We are contractors for the £300 Warm Front voucher scheme but have been unable to get onto the full contract scheme.<br />
(words left out)<br />
Reply: I suggest you take this matter up through your own MP or directly if you think something is wrong with the handling of this matter. You need to have some evidence to back up any allegation.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/01/31/warm-front-can-be-cold-comfort/#comment-10724</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 19:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My 85 year old father has had an absolute nightmare with Warmfront and based on his experience I would recommend avoiding this scheme like the plague!
Back in early December, following their work some weeks earlier, I sent an email (subsequently sent by letter too) titled AGED 85 - NO HEAT, but as yet have received no response other than a standard &quot;we&#039;ll get back to you&quot; letter. Another letter sent by my father in January and asking for an immediate response remains unanswered. It has taken hours on the phone trying to speak to the right person at Warmfront and though he now has heat once again (only after they sent two or three wrong people out... ) he awaits a full explanation and reply.
I would also advise people that their overall care and workmanship can leave much to be desired, with broken tiles, damaged floorboards, etc.
Although cost/grant wasn&#039;t an issue here, he now very much regrets his decision to use Warmfront.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My 85 year old father has had an absolute nightmare with Warmfront and based on his experience I would recommend avoiding this scheme like the plague!<br />
Back in early December, following their work some weeks earlier, I sent an email (subsequently sent by letter too) titled AGED 85 &#8211; NO HEAT, but as yet have received no response other than a standard &#8220;we&#8217;ll get back to you&#8221; letter. Another letter sent by my father in January and asking for an immediate response remains unanswered. It has taken hours on the phone trying to speak to the right person at Warmfront and though he now has heat once again (only after they sent two or three wrong people out&#8230; ) he awaits a full explanation and reply.<br />
I would also advise people that their overall care and workmanship can leave much to be desired, with broken tiles, damaged floorboards, etc.<br />
Although cost/grant wasn&#8217;t an issue here, he now very much regrets his decision to use Warmfront.</p>
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		<title>By: joe</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/01/31/warm-front-can-be-cold-comfort/#comment-10723</link>
		<dc:creator>joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 20:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have recently had a problem with my gas boiler. I obtained prices to have the boiler replaced,on average 1000 pounds.I was advised to contact the warmfront project to see if I was eligible for a grant. The assesser came and advised me that me being on disability living allowance I was entitled to the grant.I wanted cavity wall insulation but he said my house was not compatable to the insulation they use but advised me that it could be done with certain materials[poly-beads] but that was up to me to find and pay the installer.About 2-3 weeks later another surveyor came to my boiler and advised that a new boiler was required and said they would fix an ideal isar boiler.
A couple of weeks later I was told that they were coming to exchange the boiler,but me having been a heating engineer myself before becoming unwell had taken advise from other gas engineers who had told me that this boiler was not the most reliable.I advised the lady onthe phone that I would prefer the other boiler[they only do two],she said that would cost 80 pounds more and could mean me having to pay any excess.Now this got me thinking how could a boiler exchange that I was quoted by local corgi engineers at 1000 pounds had now become in excess of 2700 pounds .I contacted the energy advice centre who told me that this was normal practice and that many other people had the same complaint. I wastold that the warmfront contract had been totally misused by its contractors. I wasadvised to contact my MP [TERRY ROONEY] which I did but never got an answer . I received a note saying they would get in touch if anything was forthcoming?
If the grant was paid to the householder on proof of work done I personally could of had my old and draughty windows replaced for the 2700 pounds grant and also a new condensing boiler.
makes sense- boiler +d/glazed windows=2700 +lessC02</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have recently had a problem with my gas boiler. I obtained prices to have the boiler replaced,on average 1000 pounds.I was advised to contact the warmfront project to see if I was eligible for a grant. The assesser came and advised me that me being on disability living allowance I was entitled to the grant.I wanted cavity wall insulation but he said my house was not compatable to the insulation they use but advised me that it could be done with certain materials[poly-beads] but that was up to me to find and pay the installer.About 2-3 weeks later another surveyor came to my boiler and advised that a new boiler was required and said they would fix an ideal isar boiler.<br />
A couple of weeks later I was told that they were coming to exchange the boiler,but me having been a heating engineer myself before becoming unwell had taken advise from other gas engineers who had told me that this boiler was not the most reliable.I advised the lady onthe phone that I would prefer the other boiler[they only do two],she said that would cost 80 pounds more and could mean me having to pay any excess.Now this got me thinking how could a boiler exchange that I was quoted by local corgi engineers at 1000 pounds had now become in excess of 2700 pounds .I contacted the energy advice centre who told me that this was normal practice and that many other people had the same complaint. I wastold that the warmfront contract had been totally misused by its contractors. I wasadvised to contact my MP [TERRY ROONEY] which I did but never got an answer . I received a note saying they would get in touch if anything was forthcoming?<br />
If the grant was paid to the householder on proof of work done I personally could of had my old and draughty windows replaced for the 2700 pounds grant and also a new condensing boiler.<br />
makes sense- boiler +d/glazed windows=2700 +lessC02</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/01/31/warm-front-can-be-cold-comfort/#comment-10722</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 06:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to balance things up on this one, my parents, also pensioners applied for a warm front grant and were approved...it took some time to find an appropriate contractor - my parents said that many came who insisted on doing additional unnecessary work and charging extra for it. In the end the boiler was changed and it is all working fantastic. My parents were very pleased. Though if they would have gone with some of the other contractors - who knows? Could have been practical and financial nightmare as so many of the stories that have been told. I think it is an issue of quality and standards of work. Look how many cowboy builders and trades people operate - who effectively take advantage of the weakest in society - particularly elderly people - that is disgusting. Almost everyone i know has had problems with some tradesperson or another. Good ones - and of course there are many - are busy most of the time it seems. During the boom - when the labour market was tight - this sucked in a lot of tradespeople and contractors who were attracted by good pay rates and a captive market. Now that the boom has turned to bust - quality should return. However, for a government sponsored scheme - there should be tougher standards sets and some ethical boundaries respected. With a stringent complaints procedure that has teeth....ie if a certain number of complaints are made about a contractor - he will be barred from conducting work on the scheme. That should be an incentive to work to proper standards. However, there are also possible solutions. In an online commercial community such as Ebay, customer feedback of their experiences when using a particular vendor - generally dictate the success of that vendor. Vendors who provide bad service - get bad reviews, and hence less people order from them. In a similar fashion it might be an idea for some organisation like trading standards to set up a sort of voluntary website which allows contractors to sell their services and also for customers to offer their opinions on work done etc. Buyers of services would be attracted for reasons of information   and sellers would be attracted by the opportunities for business. Trading standards could easily monitor bad contractors and take appropriate actions - issue warnings if the investigations proved to be correct etc.

Of course, many (particularly elderly or infirm) people dont have access to internet etc...but if they knew about such a service they might ask a friend or relative if they could check it.

This type of thing would not cost a great deal to set up and could be particularly useful in raising quality standards in all professional service areas. The right combination of market forces, user generated content and regulatory bite. This is the sort of balance we need - not the chaotic free-for-all smash and grab looting, coupled with ill thought out expensive, underresourced and ineffectual regulation that is so often the result of govt interventions. But then again, it doesnt create unnecessary jobs, vast layers of bureaucracy, inefficiency, even greater control by govt or massive costs to taxpayers...so unlikely to be the sort of thing to expect from this labour govt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to balance things up on this one, my parents, also pensioners applied for a warm front grant and were approved&#8230;it took some time to find an appropriate contractor &#8211; my parents said that many came who insisted on doing additional unnecessary work and charging extra for it. In the end the boiler was changed and it is all working fantastic. My parents were very pleased. Though if they would have gone with some of the other contractors &#8211; who knows? Could have been practical and financial nightmare as so many of the stories that have been told. I think it is an issue of quality and standards of work. Look how many cowboy builders and trades people operate &#8211; who effectively take advantage of the weakest in society &#8211; particularly elderly people &#8211; that is disgusting. Almost everyone i know has had problems with some tradesperson or another. Good ones &#8211; and of course there are many &#8211; are busy most of the time it seems. During the boom &#8211; when the labour market was tight &#8211; this sucked in a lot of tradespeople and contractors who were attracted by good pay rates and a captive market. Now that the boom has turned to bust &#8211; quality should return. However, for a government sponsored scheme &#8211; there should be tougher standards sets and some ethical boundaries respected. With a stringent complaints procedure that has teeth&#8230;.ie if a certain number of complaints are made about a contractor &#8211; he will be barred from conducting work on the scheme. That should be an incentive to work to proper standards. However, there are also possible solutions. In an online commercial community such as Ebay, customer feedback of their experiences when using a particular vendor &#8211; generally dictate the success of that vendor. Vendors who provide bad service &#8211; get bad reviews, and hence less people order from them. In a similar fashion it might be an idea for some organisation like trading standards to set up a sort of voluntary website which allows contractors to sell their services and also for customers to offer their opinions on work done etc. Buyers of services would be attracted for reasons of information   and sellers would be attracted by the opportunities for business. Trading standards could easily monitor bad contractors and take appropriate actions &#8211; issue warnings if the investigations proved to be correct etc.</p>
<p>Of course, many (particularly elderly or infirm) people dont have access to internet etc&#8230;but if they knew about such a service they might ask a friend or relative if they could check it.</p>
<p>This type of thing would not cost a great deal to set up and could be particularly useful in raising quality standards in all professional service areas. The right combination of market forces, user generated content and regulatory bite. This is the sort of balance we need &#8211; not the chaotic free-for-all smash and grab looting, coupled with ill thought out expensive, underresourced and ineffectual regulation that is so often the result of govt interventions. But then again, it doesnt create unnecessary jobs, vast layers of bureaucracy, inefficiency, even greater control by govt or massive costs to taxpayers&#8230;so unlikely to be the sort of thing to expect from this labour govt.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Duffin</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/01/31/warm-front-can-be-cold-comfort/#comment-10721</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Duffin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 11:33:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There was probably little or nothing wrong with the original boiler.

(allegations about B Gas removed as they were not working for Warm front -ed)
All these (practitioners-ed) need to be reined in quite severely, but unfortunately they are enabled and encouraged by the restrictive practice known as CORGI, so they can basically name their price.

Once again we see the unintended (but widely expected) consequences of well-meaning regulation which has been hi-jacked by producer interests.

My advice - convert to oil. You don&#039;t get so many house explosions either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was probably little or nothing wrong with the original boiler.</p>
<p>(allegations about B Gas removed as they were not working for Warm front -ed)<br />
All these (practitioners-ed) need to be reined in quite severely, but unfortunately they are enabled and encouraged by the restrictive practice known as CORGI, so they can basically name their price.</p>
<p>Once again we see the unintended (but widely expected) consequences of well-meaning regulation which has been hi-jacked by producer interests.</p>
<p>My advice &#8211; convert to oil. You don&#8217;t get so many house explosions either.</p>
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		<title>By: Lola</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/01/31/warm-front-can-be-cold-comfort/#comment-10720</link>
		<dc:creator>Lola</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 20:51:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course you can.  In my village the people that attend and run the parish church are the same people who see that the less well off, the sick and the unlucky are not neglected.  One of my neighbours children is dying, we all do what we can to offer support, the State is nowhere in sight.  In fact its response over Christmas when the lad fell ill was absolutely useless and no &#039;support&#039; was offered.  What it actually offered was paid killers!  BTW, I am not a churchgoer.  I am just neighbourly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course you can.  In my village the people that attend and run the parish church are the same people who see that the less well off, the sick and the unlucky are not neglected.  One of my neighbours children is dying, we all do what we can to offer support, the State is nowhere in sight.  In fact its response over Christmas when the lad fell ill was absolutely useless and no &#8216;support&#8217; was offered.  What it actually offered was paid killers!  BTW, I am not a churchgoer.  I am just neighbourly.</p>
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		<title>By: mikestallard</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/01/31/warm-front-can-be-cold-comfort/#comment-10719</link>
		<dc:creator>mikestallard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 12:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And, am I allowed to insert the word &quot;Church&quot; here?</description>
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		<title>By: mikestallard</title>
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		<dc:creator>mikestallard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 12:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You may have noticed that, from time to time on this very blog, I have been in favour of radical cutting back by this extravagant and arrogant government.
In return, I expect that they will expect me to have a bit of nous.
Just like wimmin&#039;n&#039;black&#039;n&#039;gay people, many of us feel really insulted when other people arrogantly assume that we OAPs are all semi-morons.
Stereotyping?
Condescension?
Patronising?
We are the ones who have already survived  two national bankruptcies. We are, therefore, best prepared to survive the current one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You may have noticed that, from time to time on this very blog, I have been in favour of radical cutting back by this extravagant and arrogant government.<br />
In return, I expect that they will expect me to have a bit of nous.<br />
Just like wimmin&#8217;n'black&#8217;n'gay people, many of us feel really insulted when other people arrogantly assume that we OAPs are all semi-morons.<br />
Stereotyping?<br />
Condescension?<br />
Patronising?<br />
We are the ones who have already survived  two national bankruptcies. We are, therefore, best prepared to survive the current one.</p>
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