Comments on: Now the government is taking more than half our incomes http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/02/21/now-the-government-is-taking-more-than-half-our-incomes/ Incisive and topical campaigns and commentary on today's issues and tomorrow's problems Thu, 09 Feb 2012 20:05:58 +0000 hourly 1 By: How to Get Six Pack Fast http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/02/21/now-the-government-is-taking-more-than-half-our-incomes/#comment-11674 How to Get Six Pack Fast Wed, 15 Apr 2009 14:36:07 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=2961#comment-11674 The style of writing is quite familiar to me. Have you written guest posts for other blogs? The style of writing is quite familiar to me. Have you written guest posts for other blogs?

]]> By: Neil Craig http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/02/21/now-the-government-is-taking-more-than-half-our-incomes/#comment-11673 Neil Craig Sun, 22 Feb 2009 16:29:40 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=2961#comment-11673 I can't say I quite agree with Benjamin Franklin but he does establish a worthwhile baseline & a good example: ""It would be thought a hard government that should tax its people one tenth part." I can’t say I quite agree with Benjamin Franklin but he does establish a worthwhile baseline & a good example:

“”It would be thought a hard government
that should tax its people one tenth part.”

]]> By: Bazman http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/02/21/now-the-government-is-taking-more-than-half-our-incomes/#comment-11672 Bazman Sun, 22 Feb 2009 12:11:22 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=2961#comment-11672 I blame it all on the 'Red Right' A form of communism for the rich, with swaths of middle class social security scroungers hanging onto the state whilst expounding the views of some Victorian Neverland about profits, capital and standing on ones own two feet. talking about being poor or just skint as some sort of lifestyle choice. All that needs to be done is cut things. Like the civil service, councils, teaching and so on. What will all the chaps and Gels do in the real world with real world wages? How will cuts create any jobs for them? Have a think about in Jeremy or Jez or even Jezzer as you now might be known. Redder than red is the same as deep blue and the public seem to grasp this as more true as the weeks go on. Will anything change? We will have to see how the next generation of bankers and money men intend to make their fortunes, as they will have to do. I blame it all on the ‘Red Right’ A form of communism for the rich, with swaths of middle class social security scroungers hanging onto the state whilst expounding the views of some Victorian Neverland about profits, capital and standing on ones own two feet. talking about being poor or just skint as some sort of lifestyle choice. All that needs to be done is cut things. Like the civil service, councils, teaching and so on. What will all the chaps and Gels do in the real world with real world wages? How will cuts create any jobs for them? Have a think about in Jeremy or Jez or even Jezzer as you now might be known. Redder than red is the same as deep blue and the public seem to grasp this as more true as the weeks go on. Will anything change? We will have to see how the next generation of bankers and money men intend to make their fortunes, as they will have to do.

]]> By: Economic Voice http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/02/21/now-the-government-is-taking-more-than-half-our-incomes/#comment-11671 Economic Voice Sat, 21 Feb 2009 18:25:09 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=2961#comment-11671 I'm going to say it. Nothing will change under a Conservative government. The overall tax burden on the individual will remain roughly the same whichever of the 'Big Two' are in charge. There may be minor tinkering at the edges but nothing more. Society as a whole needs massive simplification to achieve significant tax changes. This will not happen until the state is rolled back by at least 70%. And this will not happen as one party likes to exercise control and the other is now too frightened to grasp the privatisation nettle. Sorry John, but you talking about excess government is a bit rich. Reply: I don't see why. When I was in government I did roll back the state I’m going to say it.
Nothing will change under a Conservative government.
The overall tax burden on the individual will remain roughly the same whichever of the ‘Big Two’ are in charge.
There may be minor tinkering at the edges but nothing more. Society as a whole needs massive simplification to achieve significant tax changes.
This will not happen until the state is rolled back by at least 70%. And this will not happen as one party likes to exercise control and the other is now too frightened to grasp the privatisation nettle.
Sorry John, but you talking about excess government is a bit rich.

Reply: I don’t see why. When I was in government I did roll back the state

]]> By: Blank Xavier http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/02/21/now-the-government-is-taking-more-than-half-our-incomes/#comment-11670 Blank Xavier Sat, 21 Feb 2009 17:12:51 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=2961#comment-11670 All because powers are granted via a democratic process does not mean they will be used democratically. Law is passed via democratic process - and there is nothing which stops those laws being unfree, even totalitarian. We are in the UK slipping into a legally dictatorial State. We are oppressed not by the cosh of the secret police, but by the legally passed laws of the State. All because powers are granted via a democratic process does not mean they will be used democratically.

Law is passed via democratic process – and there is nothing which stops those laws being unfree, even totalitarian.

We are in the UK slipping into a legally dictatorial State. We are oppressed not by the cosh of the secret police, but by the legally passed laws of the State.

]]> By: Bishop Hill http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/02/21/now-the-government-is-taking-more-than-half-our-incomes/#comment-11669 Bishop Hill Sat, 21 Feb 2009 17:08:55 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=2961#comment-11669 Interesting that not one of the panellists on Question Time the other night was willing to ask for the pain to be shared by the public sector. Heseltine kept his mouth firmly shut on that score too. Interesting that not one of the panellists on Question Time the other night was willing to ask for the pain to be shared by the public sector. Heseltine kept his mouth firmly shut on that score too.

]]> By: alan jutson http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/02/21/now-the-government-is-taking-more-than-half-our-incomes/#comment-11668 alan jutson Sat, 21 Feb 2009 17:05:42 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=2961#comment-11668 To income tax add National Insurance, VAT, Petrol Duty, Inheritance tax, Capital gains tax, Stamp duty, Corporation tax, The tax on savings, Community Council tax, and a host of other stealth taxes it is probably at least 70 % or more of your total income going to the State, for them to spend as they see fit on your behalf. To income tax add National Insurance, VAT, Petrol Duty, Inheritance tax, Capital gains tax, Stamp duty, Corporation tax, The tax on savings, Community Council tax, and a host of other stealth taxes it is probably at least 70 % or more of your total income going to the State, for them to spend as they see fit on your behalf.

]]> By: Johnny Norfolk http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/02/21/now-the-government-is-taking-more-than-half-our-incomes/#comment-11667 Johnny Norfolk Sat, 21 Feb 2009 16:55:59 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=2961#comment-11667 Regretably Labour just do not understand any of this. Its like talking to a brick wall. Regretably Labour just do not understand any of this.
Its like talking to a brick wall.

]]> By: oldrightie http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/02/21/now-the-government-is-taking-more-than-half-our-incomes/#comment-11666 oldrightie Sat, 21 Feb 2009 14:18:18 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=2961#comment-11666 That's not counting my pension they stole! That’s not counting my pension they stole!

]]> By: Bill (Scotland) http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/02/21/now-the-government-is-taking-more-than-half-our-incomes/#comment-11665 Bill (Scotland) Sat, 21 Feb 2009 14:02:23 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=2961#comment-11665 Whilst I agree with your general point about the atrocious way the government is running the national economy and its finances, surely 'tax freedom day' would have to move from June into July before it could be said to be taking in excess of 50 per cent of national income? It's bad enough what they ARE doing, without momentarily driving me completely over the edge ... ;) Reply: I'm saying it has if you include the borrowing Whilst I agree with your general point about the atrocious way the government is running the national economy and its finances, surely ‘tax freedom day’ would have to move from June into July before it could be said to be taking in excess of 50 per cent of national income? It’s bad enough what they ARE doing, without momentarily driving me completely over the edge … ;)

Reply: I’m saying it has if you include the borrowing

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