Whilst I do not wish to minimise in any way the shocking abuse of children or anyone else, records seem to suggest that it is usually a family member who is to blame in most of these cases. Those people have no checks at all.

Voluntary services of all kinds have trouble getting and keeping members, this is going to be just another obstruction to that cause.

Whats your take on CRB checks being required on all voluntary workers ?

I have been a Local Lions Club Member for nearly 20 years.
Lions Clubs being probably the largest voluntary service organisation in the World with about 1,500,00 members,

All pay to be a member, no expenses claimed, all money collected going to local or national charitable causes.

We are informed that all voluntary workers will shortly need to be CRB checked under a new Law (not yet in force) the same as many other service minded paid jobs that involve contact with either children or vunerable adults such as the NHS WORKERS, POLICE,CHILD MINDERS,TEACHERS, SCOUT LEADERS,YOUTH CLUB LEADERS,SOCIAL WORKERS,TEAM COACHES ETC ETC.

It is estimated I am told that some 11,000,000 people in total will need to be checked through this route to prove their innocence under this new system.

Whilst I am all for making sure Vunerable people do not get abused or taken advantage of, is this really the best way of moving forward.

At the moment it would seem that A CRB check if you have one, only covers you for the single task/job, it is not a multiple task system. So if you are an NHS worker who has been checked and passed but you want to do voluntary work, you need to be CRB checked again, and if you want to do more than one voluntary bit of work you need to be CRB checked yet again.

We have some members in our Club who hold three different CRB certificates all saying the same, but for different organisations,
Ie Lions Rotary,HNS,Magistrates etc.

Would appreciate your comment.

Reply: it seems a very clumsy way of trying to achieve a desirable objective. It might be easier to confine such checks to people who have sole charge of children without other adults around, which might cut down the numbers a lot.

I have to say that both myself and my wife were impressed by the way he actually gave a concise and sensible answer to all questions put to him.

He seemed to in short be an ordinary human being to whom you could relate, who had a grip on the Nations Policy and believed in his Countrys ability to resolve any issues that may come along, without any spin.

It may be very different in reality (only those in Australia would know), but at least he looked the part and comfortable in it.

too many regulationslaws and they fail to work, stupidly complicated regulations/laws and they fail to work.
the big G got it wrong on every level, too many, too complex and a failure to listen when the warning signal actualy worked.

surely it would be easier to wave good by to UKPLC and just start again, i like pound sterling but a change and no debt (through no fault of my own!) would be bloody nice (i’m already taxed into poverty, and by poverty i mean it)

If you have an idea about how to make regulation better why not submit it to the Better Regulation Executive on their website here:

http://www.betterregulation.gov.uk/

Same goes for anyone else, apparently the government wants us all to submit our ideas on how to make regulation ‘better’.

From their website:

“Got an idea on how to improve regulation? Then help us by using our ideas section below and telling us how we can make life easier for you.

Even the smallest ideas can make a big difference.

We will consider all of your ideas, publish them online and respond within 90 days.”

Reply: have done so in the past, but they will not deregulate which is part of the need. I set out many proposals in the Ecopnomic Policy Review, available as a download on this site.

My guess is any FSA Inspector would not be aware of what was in most of it either. You will find if you do spend your life reading it, that it will probably contain so many contradictions that it is unworkable in any practicle form.

The sad fact is that we as a Country have thrown Commonsense out of the window, that is why we now have an Army of Health and Safety Inspectors etc, etc, etc who are always looking for someone to blame no matter how minor the so called offence of non compliance.

In the “bad old days” if you took somone to Court, the Judge would apply commonsense and a test of reasonableness to the evidence of the case and make a ruling.

Yes it had errors, No it was not perfect, but it was far more simple, as most people were bought up to expect similar standards in either Business or the Law.

The problem with trying to cross every “i” and dot every “t” is that no one ever can do them all, as someone will find a situation on which no ruling exists, which then requires further Regulation to correct, and so it goes on, its the if its not listed as wrong, it must be alright syndrome.

This Government is a prime example of such Regulation and G Brown is a master, who else would require an explanitory document running to thousands of pages to explain Tax changes in every Budget he gave.

Excess Regulation/Laws and its small minded enforcement is the bain of all of our lives. JR has preached this often enough, but unfortunately most just do not understand.
People believe that every type of wrong doing requires more Regulation/Law when in fact more simple but stronger Regulation/Law with commonsense applied would be much better.

The problem would be choosing the one to Apply Commonsense, as standards and expectations are now more diverse having been complicated over the years by poor Regulation.

The Lawyers are the only people who benefit from all of this paperwork in our claim Society.
Ask yourself how many Senior MP’s of all Parties have a Legal background, and you may get close to finding the reason.

He needs to change HIS rules not add on more.