Comments on: It’s the politics, stupid

By: Jeremy

Jeremy — Mon, 09 Mar 2009 22:50:58 +0000

There’s no copyright on blog titles but I’m flattered none the less.

http://pol-e-tics.blogspot.com/2009/03/its-politics-stupid.html

My conclusion last week to Brown’s political games was perhaps more graphic but otherwise much the same.

Reply: I did not copy it from you, but well done on your choice of phrase.

By: APL

APL — Mon, 09 Mar 2009 22:02:43 +0000

Demetrius: “It all reminds me too much of the 50’s and 60’s, ..”

I think you are right to be so reminded. It was the ’50s and ’60s when the government last intervened in, on that occasion heavy industry on such a scale.

Then it was the Nationalization of British Rail. The forced merger of one bad motor company with one half decent motor company one of which might have stood a chance if the other had been left to die, leading to British Leyland. We all know where that led. Or likewise British Steel.

Each considered to be crucial to industrial policy. In just the same way that Brown thinks the Banks are today.

The Banks may be important. But the lesson we should learn from our past experience is that POLITICIANS HAVEN’T GOT A CLUE!

85% should never be let near a business.

If British Steel, British Rail and British Leyland are what’s in store for British Banking. We would do ourselves a big favour and shut the lot down tomorrow rather than let the politicians near the banks. Too late, of course. There isn’t a crisis so bad that a politician can’t make it worse.

By: alan jutson

alan jutson — Mon, 09 Mar 2009 18:53:02 +0000

Just heard on the News tonight that the US is investing Government money into stem cell research.

Lets hope they do not get any of Gordons DNA.

By: Chris H

Chris H — Mon, 09 Mar 2009 16:38:34 +0000

Turning the voters away from Labour will be tricky unless some heavyweight psychology is used. People are dumb enough to keep on putting an X in the Labour box because (a) they’ve always done it (b) they’re scared of what might happen if they don’t and (c) they haven’t got the brains to think for themselves. Conservatives have to find a way to appeal to the “dumb” part of an average person’s mind; it’s great taking an intellectual approach to all these matters but yer common man only thinks in terms of food, beer and work.
The next election will be won on tactics, I fear and not facts. Diehard Labour voters would still support them even if they knew it would mean ending up in the poorhouse. We are heading into strange and unusual times and the old routines may not work any more. If Gordo gets back in, then it’ll be state benefits all round, id cards and probably all in euros.

By: alan jutson

alan jutson — Mon, 09 Mar 2009 09:34:43 +0000

Do you have a link or can outline where to find The James report.

See you have mentioned it a few times on this blog would like a look.

Reply: No link here – maybe Conservative Central Office could help you.

By: Blank Xavier

Blank Xavier — Mon, 09 Mar 2009 08:08:05 +0000

JR wrote:
> They now think the crisis gives them cover to do what they have
> always wanted to do: spend limitless amounts of money on
> everything they want to do in the public sector.

This is *exactly* and *precisely* my thought.

By: mike stallard

mike stallard — Mon, 09 Mar 2009 08:02:07 +0000

Read this thread and see the fear and anger in it!
Read and hear the disappointment with the Opposition!
It must be really disheartening for our host not to be allowed into the arena.
One thing to add:
Has anyone else heard the rumours about Glenrothes?
The counting of the vote was very suspect – part of it took place behind the rostrum where nobody could see what was going on. The old Postal Vote scam, apparently, was pretty far fetched as well.
On top of this, we sometimes (rarely) read that the electoral boundaries are biased in favour of New Labour. Why is this? I do not understand.
The final nail in the coffin, of course, is the total control of the media and the system of State Give Aways – pensions, bus passes, dole money, pension increases, and the fact that, in some Northern cities, no less than 3 people out of every 4 are being looked after by the New Labour government.
Would you risk your own income/pension? I wouldn’t.
I think, myself, that Mr Brown has, despite his slovenly government antics, a very good chance of pulling off an election victory.

By: mike stallard

mike stallard — Mon, 09 Mar 2009 07:49:29 +0000

I would much prefer the government to get their hands off other people’s money entirely.
It is called “tax reduction” (or financial easementation – FE).

By: rugfish

rugfish — Mon, 09 Mar 2009 05:41:49 +0000

My suspicion (without questions being raised in parliament), is that the bank bailouts consist mainly, if not wholly, of monies to buy back financial instruments which were sold to foreign investors, and thus if failing to compensate or guarantee those investments, our future prospects of continuing a world financial centre, would be next to zero if we let banks clatter without support. If those investors happened to be governments, which I suspect they are. Then by our failure to compensate them, it could lead to governments around the world toppling, with all the results that would bring, including the destruction of our very own ‘customers’ and possibly even reason for war.

On the other hand, if this isn’t the case and we’re simply paying money out willy-nilly for things we shouldn’t really have to compensate, then I’d like our politicians to be able to ask the questions which reveal WHERE the money is going (has gone). i.e. What are we taxpayers buying?

By: no one

no one — Sun, 08 Mar 2009 22:50:37 +0000

sadly Matthew Reynolds the harsh reality is that whoever Mr Murdoch chooses to support will win the next election, it has little to do with the many perspectives you mention

at the moment I would say there is a fairly high chance of the elections being postponed due to the “national emergency” of financial mess or some such, we are looking more and more like a banana repulic every day and this would seem an all too easy step at the moment, moving onto the government of national unity or one party state approach also or some such

what with the news today that the government is planning to ration chocolate (i kid you not) anything is possible

i for one would welcome some proper elections with anyone who has ever been a member of a political party being barred from standing