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		<title>By: kiki</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/03/13/are-some-banks-too-big-to-fail/#comment-12604</link>
		<dc:creator>kiki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 18:27:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>even though you have given me a new perspective, it seems to me that your suggestions are much easier said than done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>even though you have given me a new perspective, it seems to me that your suggestions are much easier said than done.</p>
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		<title>By: Bad boys, old boys, new thinking &#124; AccMan</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/03/13/are-some-banks-too-big-to-fail/#comment-12603</link>
		<dc:creator>Bad boys, old boys, new thinking &#124; AccMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 23:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] for me to agree with someone as extreme in his political thinking as John Redwood but in this piece I believe he is talking sense when he says of RBS: The correct strategy with an unwieldy conglomerate like RBS is to break it up [...]

Reply: There is n othing extreme in my thinking, as any reader of this site will know. Stop the myth making.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] for me to agree with someone as extreme in his political thinking as John Redwood but in this piece I believe he is talking sense when he says of RBS: The correct strategy with an unwieldy conglomerate like RBS is to break it up [...]</p>
<p>Reply: There is n othing extreme in my thinking, as any reader of this site will know. Stop the myth making.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/03/13/are-some-banks-too-big-to-fail/#comment-12602</link>
		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 01:10:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Are some banks too big to fail?&quot; is your question:

No. And some government ministers, regulators and financiers should be strung up from the nearest lamp post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Are some banks too big to fail?&#8221; is your question:</p>
<p>No. And some government ministers, regulators and financiers should be strung up from the nearest lamp post.</p>
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		<title>By: Blank Xavier</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/03/13/are-some-banks-too-big-to-fail/#comment-12601</link>
		<dc:creator>Blank Xavier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 19:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JR wrote:
&gt; I read yesterday that the FSA is now going to hire 280 extra
&gt; staff and is going to make life frightening for banks.

As if they *could*.

Regulatory capture is inexorable.

Look at Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae.  The Office of Housing Enterprise Oversight existed specifically and only to regulate those two (off-the-books) Government entities.  The Office has an annual budget of about 66,000,000 dollars.  I tried to find out how many staff, but failed; from their organisation chart and budget, I&#039;m thinking some hundreds.

Do any good?  not a bit.  Not to even mention the support in Congress and the House for increasing the scope and size of Frannies activities.  In 2006, for example, there was a push to get Frannie to handle mortgages up to 735,000 dollars - e.g. to compete in the entire market, while being able to out-compete every private lender because of their implicit State guarantee - in others words, a State run mortgage market (which to a large extent is what the Americans had already at that point anyway).

This entire CDO mess occurred because of Frannie, because the Americans back in about 1930 went for Big Government and started meddling in the mortgage market.

When a problem takes 75 years to mature, when it finally pops, it&#039;s big.  But you know, you *get what you get*, and this is what you get for manipulating the market.

Regulate?  regulate when you&#039;re *doing the wrong thing in the first place?*  great!  that&#039;ll help!

&gt; I don’t think that is the right response.

It&#039;s more of the same, where &quot;same&quot; means Government following its natural course, to centralize and regulate.

It&#039;s not the case that regulation does not work; it&#039;s the case that regulation *cannot* work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JR wrote:<br />
&gt; I read yesterday that the FSA is now going to hire 280 extra<br />
&gt; staff and is going to make life frightening for banks.</p>
<p>As if they *could*.</p>
<p>Regulatory capture is inexorable.</p>
<p>Look at Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae.  The Office of Housing Enterprise Oversight existed specifically and only to regulate those two (off-the-books) Government entities.  The Office has an annual budget of about 66,000,000 dollars.  I tried to find out how many staff, but failed; from their organisation chart and budget, I&#8217;m thinking some hundreds.</p>
<p>Do any good?  not a bit.  Not to even mention the support in Congress and the House for increasing the scope and size of Frannies activities.  In 2006, for example, there was a push to get Frannie to handle mortgages up to 735,000 dollars &#8211; e.g. to compete in the entire market, while being able to out-compete every private lender because of their implicit State guarantee &#8211; in others words, a State run mortgage market (which to a large extent is what the Americans had already at that point anyway).</p>
<p>This entire CDO mess occurred because of Frannie, because the Americans back in about 1930 went for Big Government and started meddling in the mortgage market.</p>
<p>When a problem takes 75 years to mature, when it finally pops, it&#8217;s big.  But you know, you *get what you get*, and this is what you get for manipulating the market.</p>
<p>Regulate?  regulate when you&#8217;re *doing the wrong thing in the first place?*  great!  that&#8217;ll help!</p>
<p>&gt; I don’t think that is the right response.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s more of the same, where &#8220;same&#8221; means Government following its natural course, to centralize and regulate.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not the case that regulation does not work; it&#8217;s the case that regulation *cannot* work.</p>
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		<title>By: Denis Cooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Denis Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 11:52:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rather interesting and amusing:

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601109&amp;sid=aANXHOD12Q2A&amp;refer=news

&quot;South Sea Bubble Survivor Says Dismantle RBS Along With Lloyds&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rather interesting and amusing:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601109&#038;sid=aANXHOD12Q2A&#038;refer=news" rel="nofollow">http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601109&#038;sid=aANXHOD12Q2A&#038;refer=news</a></p>
<p>&#8220;South Sea Bubble Survivor Says Dismantle RBS Along With Lloyds&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: rugfish</title>
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		<dc:creator>rugfish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 10:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m surprised my comment on the FSA hasn&#039;t been allowed Mr Redwood.
Maybe I&#039;m in the wrong place if all political truth is not permitted on your site.

Reply: Not so, I will edit it in due course, but anyone who makes personal attacks on named individuals gets protected by editing. Yours need a bit of editing. Please make trenchant criticisms of institutions without personalising them, if you want fast posting</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m surprised my comment on the FSA hasn&#8217;t been allowed Mr Redwood.<br />
Maybe I&#8217;m in the wrong place if all political truth is not permitted on your site.</p>
<p>Reply: Not so, I will edit it in due course, but anyone who makes personal attacks on named individuals gets protected by editing. Yours need a bit of editing. Please make trenchant criticisms of institutions without personalising them, if you want fast posting</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 23:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would appear the banks think the good old days will be back soon and the politicians are still too scared of being accused of wrecking an industry.

How long will it take before the banks are broken up and the deposit side wrenched from the hands of the gamblers?

The whole banking profit system is based on growing the money supply or on zero sum games. The Govt should control money supply and the banks should earn profits on real investments.

Until we stop pretending then salaries will remain high for doing nothing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would appear the banks think the good old days will be back soon and the politicians are still too scared of being accused of wrecking an industry.</p>
<p>How long will it take before the banks are broken up and the deposit side wrenched from the hands of the gamblers?</p>
<p>The whole banking profit system is based on growing the money supply or on zero sum games. The Govt should control money supply and the banks should earn profits on real investments.</p>
<p>Until we stop pretending then salaries will remain high for doing nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 22:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John, the first profit warnings from the likes of Paragon etc. in the UK  happened in April of 2007 - the die was already cast !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, the first profit warnings from the likes of Paragon etc. in the UK  happened in April of 2007 &#8211; the die was already cast !</p>
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		<title>By: alan jutson</title>
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		<dc:creator>alan jutson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 18:49:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your solution seems reasonable to me, although I do not pretend to be an expert.

Problem seems to me there are many who think they are experts and will not admit that they are not, think the name Brown &amp; Co springs to mind.

Oh by the way, many thanks for having a go at Wokingham Council who wanted to spend £3,000 on a Civic reception for themselves. Your intervention I understand made them change their mind.

Good to see a Politician who takes action to support his ideals of stopping wasteful expenditure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your solution seems reasonable to me, although I do not pretend to be an expert.</p>
<p>Problem seems to me there are many who think they are experts and will not admit that they are not, think the name Brown &amp; Co springs to mind.</p>
<p>Oh by the way, many thanks for having a go at Wokingham Council who wanted to spend £3,000 on a Civic reception for themselves. Your intervention I understand made them change their mind.</p>
<p>Good to see a Politician who takes action to support his ideals of stopping wasteful expenditure.</p>
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		<title>By: AngloBear</title>
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		<dc:creator>AngloBear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 17:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John, please get some exposure. Is everyone else sick of Cable?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, please get some exposure. Is everyone else sick of Cable?</p>
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