Comments on: It’s not easy parodying this government

By: Stuart Fairney

Stuart Fairney — Wed, 25 Mar 2009 08:15:24 +0000

Elders, eh. Why not a Star Chamber?

The problem with professional jurors is the word professional. They would end up as whipped as MP’s

Imagine monitoring of conviction rates by the government; why is such-and-such juror convicting at 45% when the average is 70%, the guilty are walking free, sack, or re-train him. Could you not imagine such a scenario? does that not chill you to the core?

Independent jurors are the last guard in a free society, and if you cannot accept that, you gallop towards your own enslavement.

Sure they make mistakes and take bad decisions. Better that than having Jack Straw, Jackie Smith or John Redwood deciding for us.

By: Stuart Fairney

Stuart Fairney — Wed, 25 Mar 2009 08:04:59 +0000

The seperation of police and the courts seems so obviously important to ensure justice, that it is hard to imagine anyone arguing to the contrary.

Remarkable.

By: Lola

Lola — Tue, 24 Mar 2009 23:46:24 +0000

Sort of O/T but has your party got anyone with any military experience in it who is cabinet material? You (i.e. us) are going to need it.

By: andy dan

andy dan — Tue, 24 Mar 2009 20:56:28 +0000

The jury system is the biggest waste of time and money. It’s not even remotely fair. Juries tend to consist of groups who would either find nobody guilty, or everybody guilty. Many people cannot understand the concept of “beyond reasonable doubt”. People also cannot be expected to understand the technology being used, eg DNA amplification. I’m sure the lawyers love it because it wastes time and earns them more money. Just because something has been used for hundreds of years doesn’t make it an ideal system in the modern age. We’d be far better off with a system of professional jurors or “elders”. The judicial system is a place where large savings could be made following the next election.

By: Mr Ecks

Mr Ecks — Tue, 24 Mar 2009 20:13:31 +0000

They know very well what Jack …. can do with NuLiebores rights and responsibilities.

By: Blank Xavier

Blank Xavier — Tue, 24 Mar 2009 19:59:08 +0000

Have you heard about the massive cuts in Magistrates Courts? London will go from having 30 down to 8. The justice service being provided is, it seems, basically going to be moved to the police, who will be issuing summary sentences.

http://thelawwestofealingbroadway.blogspot.com/2009/03/things-will-never-be-same-again.html

By: alan jutson

alan jutson — Tue, 24 Mar 2009 19:26:46 +0000

Its very simple to understand really.
Change the Name of Labour Party to Communist Party and it all makes sense.

By: alan jutson

alan jutson — Tue, 24 Mar 2009 19:22:09 +0000

Agreed
I say again, David Davis was right.

By: mikestallard

mikestallard — Tue, 24 Mar 2009 17:42:13 +0000

On Labour List, there is a piece on the databases kept by the State at the moment. The general line is that this is an interesting new phenomenon which the readers might like to discuss. The article appeared in the Independent.
It didn’t seem to create a lot of interest.
One of the best declarations of rights and one of the very liberal constitutions of the 20th century was, of course, gifted to the grateful people of the Soviet Union at the very time when the Great Fear was raging in the 1930s.
On this thread, I am with Blank Xavier: this government which started off so cockily in 1997 is now as rich in fresh thinking as it is economically.

By: mikestallard

mikestallard — Tue, 24 Mar 2009 17:35:45 +0000

Here in Conservative Cambridgeshire, we get nothing through the door from the (Conservative) local government.
Maybe it is because here in the fens, so few people can read…..