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		<title>By: Denis Cooper</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/04/25/parliament-sidelined-again/#comment-14972</link>
		<dc:creator>Denis Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 07:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once again, it all comes down to the character of the MPs.

Ideally the paramount loyalty of every MP would be to the country, and he would see himself as the representative of the citizens resident within part of the country, his constituents, and he would be totally committed to national democracy.

There are still some MPs who come as close to that ideal as is humanly possible, but they are now a small minority, maybe not even 10 per cent of the total - far too few to insist on the traditional rights of the House.

Oh, except when it&#039;s convenient - for example when the governing party wants to lock up suspects without charge or trial and has to face down the Lords to get the Bill through, or when it has to explain to the public why it&#039;s refusing to hold a referendum that it promised in its manifesto.

Then, suddenly, the Commons finds many staunch defenders of its rights.

It&#039;s worth remembering how people become MPs: first of all, through an internal party process of pre-selection and final selection of official candidates from among the party members - in total less than 1 per cent of the electorate - and then only afterwards do the other 99 per cent of electors have any say, when they can choose between the candidates on offer in each constituency.

As just three parties supplied 94 per cent of the MPs elected at the last general election, obviously that is where we should look to find out why the system has being going so badly wrong.

That&#039;s what we&#039;d do if it we had a problem with the quality of, say, doctors; if 94 per cent of new doctors were produced by just three medical colleges, and most of them were poor doctors, then we&#039;d say that those colleges were failing in their task.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once again, it all comes down to the character of the MPs.</p>
<p>Ideally the paramount loyalty of every MP would be to the country, and he would see himself as the representative of the citizens resident within part of the country, his constituents, and he would be totally committed to national democracy.</p>
<p>There are still some MPs who come as close to that ideal as is humanly possible, but they are now a small minority, maybe not even 10 per cent of the total &#8211; far too few to insist on the traditional rights of the House.</p>
<p>Oh, except when it&#8217;s convenient &#8211; for example when the governing party wants to lock up suspects without charge or trial and has to face down the Lords to get the Bill through, or when it has to explain to the public why it&#8217;s refusing to hold a referendum that it promised in its manifesto.</p>
<p>Then, suddenly, the Commons finds many staunch defenders of its rights.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s worth remembering how people become MPs: first of all, through an internal party process of pre-selection and final selection of official candidates from among the party members &#8211; in total less than 1 per cent of the electorate &#8211; and then only afterwards do the other 99 per cent of electors have any say, when they can choose between the candidates on offer in each constituency.</p>
<p>As just three parties supplied 94 per cent of the MPs elected at the last general election, obviously that is where we should look to find out why the system has being going so badly wrong.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what we&#8217;d do if it we had a problem with the quality of, say, doctors; if 94 per cent of new doctors were produced by just three medical colleges, and most of them were poor doctors, then we&#8217;d say that those colleges were failing in their task.</p>
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		<title>By: SJB</title>
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		<dc:creator>SJB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 15:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JR: &quot;Under the rules of Parliament, the government decides what it will give Statements on. Oppositions can only huff and puff if we disagree about what is important enough to warrant a Statement.&quot;

You will know Erskine-May better than me, but I seem to remember Labour in opposition forcing all-night sittings and other disruptions when the stakes (from their point of view) were high; e.g. trade union reform legislation.

What has astounded me is the weak Parliamentary response to Damian Green&#039;s arrest; e.g. the Serjeant-at-Arms (a former civil servant) who gave her consent to the raid is still in place. Surely other non-Tory MPs must have been appalled too? So it seems odd that collectively no attempt was made to demonstrate Parliamentary disapproval using the most potent methods at MP&#039;s disposal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JR: &#8220;Under the rules of Parliament, the government decides what it will give Statements on. Oppositions can only huff and puff if we disagree about what is important enough to warrant a Statement.&#8221;</p>
<p>You will know Erskine-May better than me, but I seem to remember Labour in opposition forcing all-night sittings and other disruptions when the stakes (from their point of view) were high; e.g. trade union reform legislation.</p>
<p>What has astounded me is the weak Parliamentary response to Damian Green&#8217;s arrest; e.g. the Serjeant-at-Arms (a former civil servant) who gave her consent to the raid is still in place. Surely other non-Tory MPs must have been appalled too? So it seems odd that collectively no attempt was made to demonstrate Parliamentary disapproval using the most potent methods at MP&#8217;s disposal.</p>
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		<title>By: mikestallard</title>
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		<dc:creator>mikestallard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 12:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It really seems as if the Prime Minister has appointed a cabal of cyphers to agree with his every whim. It also appears that the parliament&#039;s job (cp the EU) is to nod through all his ideas.
This is no way to govern even a banana republic because nobody, even Fidel Castro, can do it properly.
Please may we have our parliament back?
Have the Conservatives any plans on this front?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It really seems as if the Prime Minister has appointed a cabal of cyphers to agree with his every whim. It also appears that the parliament&#8217;s job (cp the EU) is to nod through all his ideas.<br />
This is no way to govern even a banana republic because nobody, even Fidel Castro, can do it properly.<br />
Please may we have our parliament back?<br />
Have the Conservatives any plans on this front?</p>
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		<title>By: Colin D.</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/04/25/parliament-sidelined-again/#comment-14969</link>
		<dc:creator>Colin D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 10:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All you describe is the collapse of democracy, government accountability, and openness to scrutiny. Prior to Labour, I believe there were two Question Times each week. A good first move from a Conservative Government would be to revert to the original regime.
Another Labour wheeze is to announce longer and longer Parliamentary recesses. This conveniently further reduces the opportunities for questioning the Government. The Conservatives also need to address this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All you describe is the collapse of democracy, government accountability, and openness to scrutiny. Prior to Labour, I believe there were two Question Times each week. A good first move from a Conservative Government would be to revert to the original regime.<br />
Another Labour wheeze is to announce longer and longer Parliamentary recesses. This conveniently further reduces the opportunities for questioning the Government. The Conservatives also need to address this.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 09:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brigham,

Please, please don&#039;t be silly St. Tone of Blair is an ex labour politician. They work so hard on our behalf with such onerous 3 day weeks that they aren&#039;t expected to pay income tax or submit to any of the stupid HMRC rules on claiming expenses and benefits in kind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brigham,</p>
<p>Please, please don&#8217;t be silly St. Tone of Blair is an ex labour politician. They work so hard on our behalf with such onerous 3 day weeks that they aren&#8217;t expected to pay income tax or submit to any of the stupid HMRC rules on claiming expenses and benefits in kind.</p>
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		<title>By: Brigham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brigham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 08:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know this is off subject, but I have just seen that Tony Blair thinks the 50p tax is wrong. Does anyone know where he pays his income tax?!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know this is off subject, but I have just seen that Tony Blair thinks the 50p tax is wrong. Does anyone know where he pays his income tax?!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Donna W</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donna W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 08:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Under the rules of Parliament, the government decides what it will give Statements on.&quot;


It&#039;s about time this and other arcane rules of Parliament were changed.  Our so-called Democracy isn&#039;t a democracy and it isn&#039;t working.  We need to drag it into the 21st century and have the humility to admit that America is far better governed than we are.  The Government should be required to give a Statement on matters of national importance and the Opposition and other members of Parliament SHOULD be able to demand one.

At the moment, under our Parliamentary system, we have an elected Dictatorship and because of the way Labour has gerry-mandered Parliament and dealt with the Opposition (Damian Green), there is virtually no accountability.  If Politicians genuinely want the majority of the electorate (and not just obsessives like me) to take an interest in politics and the governance of our country, they should take a long, hard look at Parliament (both Houses) and our entire system of Government - and make it far more accountable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Under the rules of Parliament, the government decides what it will give Statements on.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s about time this and other arcane rules of Parliament were changed.  Our so-called Democracy isn&#8217;t a democracy and it isn&#8217;t working.  We need to drag it into the 21st century and have the humility to admit that America is far better governed than we are.  The Government should be required to give a Statement on matters of national importance and the Opposition and other members of Parliament SHOULD be able to demand one.</p>
<p>At the moment, under our Parliamentary system, we have an elected Dictatorship and because of the way Labour has gerry-mandered Parliament and dealt with the Opposition (Damian Green), there is virtually no accountability.  If Politicians genuinely want the majority of the electorate (and not just obsessives like me) to take an interest in politics and the governance of our country, they should take a long, hard look at Parliament (both Houses) and our entire system of Government &#8211; and make it far more accountable.</p>
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		<title>By: alan jutson</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/04/25/parliament-sidelined-again/#comment-14965</link>
		<dc:creator>alan jutson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 08:02:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John
The System and the way Parliament works needs to change, if our representitives are not going to operate in the spirit of a true Democracy.
Aware that Government does not want to be frustrated by a whole series of Opposition Questions on a whole range of subjects, as that would also destroy the sensible workings of the House, but there must be  a better way than at present.
True debate seems almost futile, when there is any discussion it would seem that 90% of MP&#039;s are not even present.
Its almost like talking to yourself.
Seems to me most discussion goes on behind closed doors, which is also where all of the decisions are taken.
But then you can do this, and treat the opposition Parties with contempt when you have an overall majority.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John<br />
The System and the way Parliament works needs to change, if our representitives are not going to operate in the spirit of a true Democracy.<br />
Aware that Government does not want to be frustrated by a whole series of Opposition Questions on a whole range of subjects, as that would also destroy the sensible workings of the House, but there must be  a better way than at present.<br />
True debate seems almost futile, when there is any discussion it would seem that 90% of MP&#8217;s are not even present.<br />
Its almost like talking to yourself.<br />
Seems to me most discussion goes on behind closed doors, which is also where all of the decisions are taken.<br />
But then you can do this, and treat the opposition Parties with contempt when you have an overall majority.</p>
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		<title>By: David Eyles</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Eyles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 07:57:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems that the Executive has almost total control over Parliament and yet Parliament cannot hold the Executive to account. To my knowledge, they control the agenda and they control their own backbenchers in a vote with a three line whip. They control the number of days that Parliament sits. The Speaker can control who is allowed to ask a question in debate and can sanction many other things. I have no doubt that there are many other ways in which the system can be, and is being, abused.

Are there any Conservative plans for the reform of Parliament in order to restore democracy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems that the Executive has almost total control over Parliament and yet Parliament cannot hold the Executive to account. To my knowledge, they control the agenda and they control their own backbenchers in a vote with a three line whip. They control the number of days that Parliament sits. The Speaker can control who is allowed to ask a question in debate and can sanction many other things. I have no doubt that there are many other ways in which the system can be, and is being, abused.</p>
<p>Are there any Conservative plans for the reform of Parliament in order to restore democracy?</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 07:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nothing like Labour locking people up then covering up when it is all a mistake. Seems to happen a lot.

I guess this is why they keep the law to extradite to the US with no evidence so any cover up can be a success as the Americans will prosecute anyone who looks like a muslim.

Shocking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing like Labour locking people up then covering up when it is all a mistake. Seems to happen a lot.</p>
<p>I guess this is why they keep the law to extradite to the US with no evidence so any cover up can be a success as the Americans will prosecute anyone who looks like a muslim.</p>
<p>Shocking.</p>
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