Comments on: ID cards next to go? http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/04/28/id-cards-next-to-go/ Incisive and topical campaigns and commentary on today's issues and tomorrow's problems Thu, 24 May 2012 17:35:50 +0000 hourly 1 By: SJB http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/04/28/id-cards-next-to-go/#comment-15204 SJB Thu, 30 Apr 2009 15:22:30 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=3530#comment-15204 Thanks, Chris. I liked the claim that "these improvements will further help protect our borders." :-) As I recall, the impetus for all these additional 'security measures' was 9/11 rather than Brussels-inspired. There was a huge row about the amount of information the US wanted on EU citizens. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/5029258.stm Thanks, Chris. I liked the claim that “these improvements will further help protect our borders.” :-)

As I recall, the impetus for all these additional ‘security measures’ was 9/11 rather than Brussels-inspired. There was a huge row about the amount of information the US wanted on EU citizens.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/5029258.stm

]]> By: chris southern http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/04/28/id-cards-next-to-go/#comment-15203 chris southern Wed, 29 Apr 2009 19:10:43 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=3530#comment-15203 Can't find the regulations unfortunately (my connection is way to slow to do any extensive searches) but this may shed some light into what is going on. The same company has the contract for both id cards and biometric passports, both off which as of 2011 will contain facial data and fingerprints (which will also be held on the database.) One is a plastic ID the other is a paper ID, the system still roles on, they can replace the passport with a card at a later date for "ease of use" and they are then back on track. http://www.egovmonitor.com/node/24523 Can’t find the regulations unfortunately (my connection is way to slow to do any extensive searches) but this may shed some light into what is going on.
The same company has the contract for both id cards and biometric passports, both off which as of 2011 will contain facial data and fingerprints (which will also be held on the database.)
One is a plastic ID the other is a paper ID, the system still roles on, they can replace the passport with a card at a later date for “ease of use” and they are then back on track.

http://www.egovmonitor.com/node/24523

]]> By: StevenL http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/04/28/id-cards-next-to-go/#comment-15202 StevenL Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:47:15 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=3530#comment-15202 Or more likely negligent politicans signing off huge budgets to niave civil servants who can't think of anything worthwhile to spend it on before April is out. Or more likely negligent politicans signing off huge budgets to niave civil servants who can’t think of anything worthwhile to spend it on before April is out.

]]> By: SJB http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/04/28/id-cards-next-to-go/#comment-15201 SJB Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:21:49 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=3530#comment-15201 The proliferation in recent years of cctv, a dna database, and other 'security' proposals? Not sure the 'wicked' hand of Brussels can be seen here, number 6. I cannot see a Conservative government leaving the EU. Don't forget everytime (since 1970) the Tories have been office they have taken a further step towards "ever closer union." It will not surprise me in the least if Cameron takes us in to the euro. The proliferation in recent years of cctv, a dna database, and other ‘security’ proposals? Not sure the ‘wicked’ hand of Brussels can be seen here, number 6.

I cannot see a Conservative government leaving the EU. Don’t forget everytime (since 1970) the Tories have been office they have taken a further step towards “ever closer union.” It will not surprise me in the least if Cameron takes us in to the euro.

]]> By: Number 6 http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/04/28/id-cards-next-to-go/#comment-15200 Number 6 Wed, 29 Apr 2009 06:49:46 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=3530#comment-15200 Indeed, the notion of "your papers please" or your ID cards please as it will be is an EU diktat and as such it is "an order which must be obeyed at all times." As such, the Tories will have no choice but to introduce it in some form. Unless, Dave decides to leave the EU. Well, one can dream. Indeed, the notion of “your papers please” or your ID cards please as it will be is an EU diktat and as such it is “an order which must be obeyed at all times.”

As such, the Tories will have no choice but to introduce it in some form.

Unless, Dave decides to leave the EU. Well, one can dream.

]]> By: THE ESSEX BOYS http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/04/28/id-cards-next-to-go/#comment-15199 THE ESSEX BOYS Wed, 29 Apr 2009 06:20:29 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=3530#comment-15199 We Essex Boys are on holiday - this is coming from sunny Malta - so we've been logging not blogging for 2 weeks. And what an excellent 2 weeks it's been! Starting with JR's excellent budget day speech and latest report to we shareholders of UK plc, the further confirmation of the PMs lack of judgement on McBride, 50% tax, MPs expenses etc, the opinion polls and now U-turns on ludicrous ID cards and plenty else we'd wager! We shall re-enter the land we love with a spring in our step, convinced that this site is palying its full past in getting shot of this corrrupt and totally incompetent government! CONSERVATIVE COMMON SENSE & COMPETENCE will remain our warcry and, after 5 years of peddling it, we at last feel we're on the winning track! WELL DONE ALL.... We Essex Boys are on holiday – this is coming from sunny Malta – so we’ve been logging not blogging for 2 weeks.

And what an excellent 2 weeks it’s been!
Starting with JR’s excellent budget day speech and latest report to we shareholders of UK plc, the further confirmation of the PMs lack of judgement on McBride, 50% tax, MPs expenses etc, the opinion polls and now U-turns on ludicrous ID cards and plenty else we’d wager!

We shall re-enter the land we love with a spring in our step, convinced that this site is palying its full past in getting shot of this corrrupt and totally incompetent government!

CONSERVATIVE COMMON SENSE & COMPETENCE will remain our warcry and, after 5 years of peddling it, we at last feel we’re on the winning track!

WELL DONE ALL….

]]> By: chris southern http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/04/28/id-cards-next-to-go/#comment-15198 chris southern Tue, 28 Apr 2009 20:52:46 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=3530#comment-15198 Can't remember the full details mate, it was a while ago that i saw them, it was on another site that linked to them. Can’t remember the full details mate, it was a while ago that i saw them, it was on another site that linked to them.

]]> By: Emil http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/04/28/id-cards-next-to-go/#comment-15197 Emil Tue, 28 Apr 2009 18:36:33 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=3530#comment-15197 They might make noises about scrapping ID cards now, but be very sure that if by any disastrous means (including likely postal voting anolomolies, and Conservative over complacency) they get a fourth term they'll be back on the agenda straight away. They might make noises about scrapping ID cards now, but be very sure that if by any disastrous means (including likely postal voting anolomolies, and Conservative over complacency) they get a fourth term they’ll be back on the agenda straight away.

]]> By: Blank Xavier http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/04/28/id-cards-next-to-go/#comment-15196 Blank Xavier Tue, 28 Apr 2009 18:32:57 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=3530#comment-15196 Thing is, if they are re-elected, will it just return after? I don't trust Labour. I do believe they would simply lie, delay it and then reinstate the scheme after the election. Thing is, if they are re-elected, will it just return after?

I don’t trust Labour. I do believe they would simply lie, delay it and then reinstate the scheme after the election.

]]> By: DennisA http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/04/28/id-cards-next-to-go/#comment-15195 DennisA Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:56:06 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=3530#comment-15195 There is such a groundswell in the country about the EU and it's dead hand on the UK, that I really can't understand why the Tories don't make it a major in their manifesto. The only reason the fringe parties spring up is because non of the major parties will give us what we want, out of the EU. There is such a groundswell in the country about the EU and it’s dead hand on the UK, that I really can’t understand why the Tories don’t make it a major in their manifesto. The only reason the fringe parties spring up is because non of the major parties will give us what we want, out of the EU.

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