Comments on: The Speaker departs http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/05/19/the-speaker-departs/ Incisive and topical campaigns and commentary on today's issues and tomorrow's problems Thu, 24 May 2012 20:42:09 +0000 hourly 1 By: Michael http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/05/19/the-speaker-departs/#comment-16507 Michael Fri, 19 Jun 2009 20:54:00 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=3719#comment-16507 John I hope you consider voting for John Bercow in the Speaker election. Much better to have an independent minded Tory backbencher then another Labour Speaker. Not to mention the fact that Beckett only wants the job as a consolation prize for being kicked out of the Government 2 weeks ago. John

I hope you consider voting for John Bercow in the Speaker election. Much better to have an independent minded Tory backbencher then another Labour Speaker. Not to mention the fact that Beckett only wants the job as a consolation prize for being kicked out of the Government 2 weeks ago.

]]> By: Bazman http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/05/19/the-speaker-departs/#comment-16506 Bazman Thu, 21 May 2009 11:10:15 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=3719#comment-16506 Back to the tin bashing in Glasgow for the speaker then? I wonder if he can still remember how to do the ductwork transition of square to round? Never leaves you Mike and you will be able to bore everyone about how you where once the speaker in the house of commons. I have heard some equally fantastic tales carrying out my trade. Back to the tin bashing in Glasgow for the speaker then? I wonder if he can still remember how to do the ductwork transition of square to round?
Never leaves you Mike and you will be able to bore everyone about how you where once the speaker in the house of commons. I have heard some equally fantastic tales carrying out my trade.

]]> By: a-tracy http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/05/19/the-speaker-departs/#comment-16505 a-tracy Thu, 21 May 2009 08:15:53 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=3719#comment-16505 Bercows a young man isn't he? How do they replace him as speaker if he's got another 20 to 30 years of work left in him? What has he done for such a reward/promotion? If Labour are supporting him over people with 25 or more years parliamentary experience what does that say about their judgement? I suppose if he turns out to be a bad speaker in conservative members eyes his local party could de-select him at the first opportunity? If an MP becomes a speaker just five years before they retire, do they then retire on 3/4 of their final salary as speaker, rather than career average? This posturing is very interesting, perhaps with such a Labour majority you should support the one you least like ;-) Bercows a young man isn’t he? How do they replace him as speaker if he’s got another 20 to 30 years of work left in him? What has he done for such a reward/promotion? If Labour are supporting him over people with 25 or more years parliamentary experience what does that say about their judgement? I suppose if he turns out to be a bad speaker in conservative members eyes his local party could de-select him at the first opportunity?

If an MP becomes a speaker just five years before they retire, do they then retire on 3/4 of their final salary as speaker, rather than career average? This posturing is very interesting, perhaps with such a Labour majority you should support the one you least like ;-)

]]> By: TonyP http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/05/19/the-speaker-departs/#comment-16504 TonyP Wed, 20 May 2009 22:07:06 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=3719#comment-16504 John I read that Michael Martin has a very substantial pension pot. If this is not reduced it is as much of a disgrace as Sir Fred Goodwin's. I trust it will not be automatically granted. The man has been sacked! John

I read that Michael Martin has a very substantial pension pot. If this is not reduced it is as much of a disgrace as Sir Fred Goodwin’s.

I trust it will not be automatically granted. The man has been sacked!

]]> By: Monoi http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/05/19/the-speaker-departs/#comment-16503 Monoi Wed, 20 May 2009 15:45:46 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=3719#comment-16503 I dont get it. Who cares in the end if the speaker had not gone because of labour votes? That would have damaged labour even more had they protected him. It would also have shown that the tories have been chastised by the whole business, and have rediscovered some principles had they supported Carswell in numbers. Since the only real way to repair the damage is to go to the polls, which Cameron cannot make happen, it would have been the next best thing. By the way, am I the only one who found the grovelling and general friendly behaviour towards this (unflattering remark) speaker most repelling in light of the recent expenses scandal? I dont get it.

Who cares in the end if the speaker had not gone because of labour votes? That would have damaged labour even more had they protected him. It would also have shown that the tories have been chastised by the whole business, and have rediscovered some principles had they supported Carswell in numbers.

Since the only real way to repair the damage is to go to the polls, which Cameron cannot make happen, it would have been the next best thing.

By the way, am I the only one who found the grovelling and general friendly behaviour towards this (unflattering remark) speaker most repelling in light of the recent expenses scandal?

]]> By: SJB http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/05/19/the-speaker-departs/#comment-16502 SJB Wed, 20 May 2009 14:10:44 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=3719#comment-16502 It seems to me that Parliament only 'acted' after the Telegraph published details of MPs' expenses. Had the information not been leaked then it seems likely that a lot of the more embarrassing material would have been redacted prior to the scheduled release in July. The cartoon by Matt in today's Telegraph is spot on: two MPs are walking outside Parliament and one says to the other: "As soon as I saw what I'd been up to, I knew the Speaker had to go." It seems to me that Parliament only ‘acted’ after the Telegraph published details of MPs’ expenses. Had the information not been leaked then it seems likely that a lot of the more embarrassing material would have been redacted prior to the scheduled release in July. The cartoon by Matt in today’s Telegraph is spot on: two MPs are walking outside Parliament and one says to the other: “As soon as I saw what I’d been up to, I knew the Speaker had to go.”

]]> By: Denis Cooper http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/05/19/the-speaker-departs/#comment-16501 Denis Cooper Wed, 20 May 2009 12:12:06 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=3719#comment-16501 October is when the Irish will be voting again on the Lisbon Treaty, most probably, and our general election must wait on that. October is when the Irish will be voting again on the Lisbon Treaty, most probably, and our general election must wait on that.

]]> By: alan jutson http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/05/19/the-speaker-departs/#comment-16500 alan jutson Wed, 20 May 2009 08:08:28 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=3719#comment-16500 Agreed Frank Field is a good candidate, he deserves it, if for no other reason than he was prepared to put his head above the parapet for the past few years and speak out. The man seems to be a man of principle, rare these days. BUT that may be his problem, as well as his strength, as he upset many Labour Mp's by going against the Party line. Also he is a Labour Politician, that will make 3 Labour Speakers in a row. !!!!!!! Perhaps it is felt by the Liberals and Conservatives that this is one Labour Speaker too far. It would be sad for him that Mr Martin's election to Speaker, may mean his chances are reduced by the simple fact that Labour have used up their turn. Agreed Frank Field is a good candidate, he deserves it, if for no other reason than he was prepared to put his head above the parapet for the past few years and speak out.
The man seems to be a man of principle, rare these days.
BUT that may be his problem, as well as his strength, as he upset many Labour Mp’s by going against the Party line.

Also he is a Labour Politician, that will make 3 Labour Speakers in a row. !!!!!!!

Perhaps it is felt by the Liberals and Conservatives that this is one Labour Speaker too far. It would be sad for him that Mr Martin’s election to Speaker, may mean his chances are reduced by the simple fact that Labour have used up their turn.

]]> By: Mike Stallard http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/05/19/the-speaker-departs/#comment-16499 Mike Stallard Wed, 20 May 2009 06:38:54 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=3719#comment-16499 All I can say is this: well done the lot of you! It is magnificent to see, at long, long long last, some democracy and common sense at work. I think everyone in the country wants to think that this could be the beginning of getting our well loved Parliament back on track after the years of New Labour. PS. While all this is going on, there is, apparently, Deflation going on. Why? I thought we were in for inflation. It would be lovely if you could explain this in your usual clear way. All I can say is this: well done the lot of you! It is magnificent to see, at long, long long last, some democracy and common sense at work. I think everyone in the country wants to think that this could be the beginning of getting our well loved Parliament back on track after the years of New Labour.

PS. While all this is going on, there is, apparently, Deflation going on. Why? I thought we were in for inflation. It would be lovely if you could explain this in your usual clear way.

]]> By: Terry Nuttall http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/05/19/the-speaker-departs/#comment-16498 Terry Nuttall Wed, 20 May 2009 05:09:06 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=3719#comment-16498 If Frank Field stands, I hope he gets it. Regardless of which party is in government, I believe he would be fair. If Frank Field stands, I hope he gets it. Regardless of which party is in government, I believe he would be fair.

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