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		<title>By: David Herr</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/05/21/obama-blocked-by-democrats/#comment-16600</link>
		<dc:creator>David Herr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 07:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with treating the Guantanamo detainees as ordinary criminal defendants, is that they are not ordinary criminal defendants.  They are illegal combatants, wearing no uniform on the battlefield, and not serving in any state&#039;s armed forces, and therefore outside of international law and the Geneva Conventions.

In an ordinary criminal case, there are strict standards for maintaining the chain of custody of evidence; witnesses must be exposed to the defendant; and the law enforcement officers who investigated the case and effected the arrest must testify.  Those conditions are impossible to meet on the battlefield.  Indeed, in many cases, the soldiers who took the detainees prisoner, are now dead.  Moreover, to the extent some detainees were apprehended on the word of Afghan civilians, to expose them on the witness stand would be tantamount to slaughtering their entire families (since that&#039;s how Al Queda and the Taliban play the game).

The way I see it, if someone wants the advantages of being a stateless, army-less combatant, one has to take the disadvantages.  In these cases, it is detention without trial.  The mistake was accepting their surrender on the battlefield in the first instance -- since they are outside of international law, their surrender was ineffectual, and they should have all died on the battlefield, and gone on to their 72 under-aged virgins.

And as for the rule of law, anyone who seriously examined Obama could not be surprised by his subverting it to political expediency.  This is a man steeped in the teachings of Saul Alinsky, the radical leftist who inspired ACORN, and who believed in acquiring and using political power to plunder, law be damned.  If you don&#039;t believe me, ask a &quot;secured&quot; creditor in Chrysler or General Motors.  Now that he has seen some push-back on the Guantanamo issue, he has backed off, sensing that the risk no longer merits the reward.  But at least he sounds smooth while dispatching yet another campaign promise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with treating the Guantanamo detainees as ordinary criminal defendants, is that they are not ordinary criminal defendants.  They are illegal combatants, wearing no uniform on the battlefield, and not serving in any state&#8217;s armed forces, and therefore outside of international law and the Geneva Conventions.</p>
<p>In an ordinary criminal case, there are strict standards for maintaining the chain of custody of evidence; witnesses must be exposed to the defendant; and the law enforcement officers who investigated the case and effected the arrest must testify.  Those conditions are impossible to meet on the battlefield.  Indeed, in many cases, the soldiers who took the detainees prisoner, are now dead.  Moreover, to the extent some detainees were apprehended on the word of Afghan civilians, to expose them on the witness stand would be tantamount to slaughtering their entire families (since that&#8217;s how Al Queda and the Taliban play the game).</p>
<p>The way I see it, if someone wants the advantages of being a stateless, army-less combatant, one has to take the disadvantages.  In these cases, it is detention without trial.  The mistake was accepting their surrender on the battlefield in the first instance &#8212; since they are outside of international law, their surrender was ineffectual, and they should have all died on the battlefield, and gone on to their 72 under-aged virgins.</p>
<p>And as for the rule of law, anyone who seriously examined Obama could not be surprised by his subverting it to political expediency.  This is a man steeped in the teachings of Saul Alinsky, the radical leftist who inspired ACORN, and who believed in acquiring and using political power to plunder, law be damned.  If you don&#8217;t believe me, ask a &#8220;secured&#8221; creditor in Chrysler or General Motors.  Now that he has seen some push-back on the Guantanamo issue, he has backed off, sensing that the risk no longer merits the reward.  But at least he sounds smooth while dispatching yet another campaign promise.</p>
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		<title>By: Bazman</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/05/21/obama-blocked-by-democrats/#comment-16599</link>
		<dc:creator>Bazman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 22:14:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must add my preference of Dairy Milk to Galaxy, which I do find to be sugary the winner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must add my preference of Dairy Milk to Galaxy, which I do find to be sugary the winner.</p>
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		<title>By: Adrian Peirson</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/05/21/obama-blocked-by-democrats/#comment-16598</link>
		<dc:creator>Adrian Peirson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 20:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama, Bush and Cheney work for the same people, it&#039;s all a charade.

The Obama Deception

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=7886780711843120756&amp;ei=OeDgSfSYG46y-AbknsW0DQ&amp;q=the+obama+deception&amp;hl=en</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama, Bush and Cheney work for the same people, it&#8217;s all a charade.</p>
<p>The Obama Deception</p>
<p><a href="http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=7886780711843120756&#038;ei=OeDgSfSYG46y-AbknsW0DQ&#038;q=the+obama+deception&#038;hl=en" rel="nofollow">http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=7886780711843120756&#038;ei=OeDgSfSYG46y-AbknsW0DQ&#038;q=the+obama+deception&#038;hl=en</a></p>
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		<title>By: Robert Eve</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/05/21/obama-blocked-by-democrats/#comment-16597</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Eve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 17:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What an excellent speech by Dick Cheney yesterday.

He knows what it takes to defend his country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What an excellent speech by Dick Cheney yesterday.</p>
<p>He knows what it takes to defend his country.</p>
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		<title>By: Adrian Peirson</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/05/21/obama-blocked-by-democrats/#comment-16596</link>
		<dc:creator>Adrian Peirson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 15:34:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Put then on Trial or Let them go, Does Western civilisation have Laws or do we make it all up as we go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Put then on Trial or Let them go, Does Western civilisation have Laws or do we make it all up as we go.</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart Fairney</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/05/21/obama-blocked-by-democrats/#comment-16595</link>
		<dc:creator>Stuart Fairney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 06:14:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fox reported today that former secretary of state, Condi Rice is to undergo waterboarding to prove this is not torture.

Whilst I have some considerable regard for Dr Rice, and if the report is to be believed, considerable regard for her bravery, I cannot see how volunteering to undergo something proves it is not torture?

I&#039;m no expert, but I reckon I could waterboard someone for less than 24 hours and make them confess, yes indeed it IS torture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fox reported today that former secretary of state, Condi Rice is to undergo waterboarding to prove this is not torture.</p>
<p>Whilst I have some considerable regard for Dr Rice, and if the report is to be believed, considerable regard for her bravery, I cannot see how volunteering to undergo something proves it is not torture?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m no expert, but I reckon I could waterboard someone for less than 24 hours and make them confess, yes indeed it IS torture.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Jones</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/05/21/obama-blocked-by-democrats/#comment-16594</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 19:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No doubt New Labour is hoping to do the same to the Tories when they get in. If the economy is recovering then the time for major action will have passed and you will be stuck cutting at the edges or lose the electorate.

Time is quickly running away which is why Brown is holding out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No doubt New Labour is hoping to do the same to the Tories when they get in. If the economy is recovering then the time for major action will have passed and you will be stuck cutting at the edges or lose the electorate.</p>
<p>Time is quickly running away which is why Brown is holding out.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Geddes</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/05/21/obama-blocked-by-democrats/#comment-16593</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Geddes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 17:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having campaigned by accusing McCain of wanting the Presidency to undertake a third Bush term, it would be horribly ironic if Obama ends up being the one who fulfils his own prophesy. A lesson for you and Dave!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having campaigned by accusing McCain of wanting the Presidency to undertake a third Bush term, it would be horribly ironic if Obama ends up being the one who fulfils his own prophesy. A lesson for you and Dave!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Stallard</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/05/21/obama-blocked-by-democrats/#comment-16592</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Stallard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 16:26:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People in glass houses.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People in glass houses&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/05/21/obama-blocked-by-democrats/#comment-16591</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 13:27:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To my mind the Guantanamo issue is all about respect for the rule of law. This is the foundation of western government.

Sometimes it produces difficult consequences but the alternatives are always worse. If there is no evidence to prosecute these people they should be freed, otherwise they should be tried properly in a properly constituted court.

I have always thought that at some point Obama will have to take on Congress and face them down (particularly his own party). This seems to be the issue but does the President have the force of character required?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To my mind the Guantanamo issue is all about respect for the rule of law. This is the foundation of western government.</p>
<p>Sometimes it produces difficult consequences but the alternatives are always worse. If there is no evidence to prosecute these people they should be freed, otherwise they should be tried properly in a properly constituted court.</p>
<p>I have always thought that at some point Obama will have to take on Congress and face them down (particularly his own party). This seems to be the issue but does the President have the force of character required?</p>
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