Comments on: German and British factories http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/05/28/german-and-british-factories/ Incisive and topical campaigns and commentary on today's issues and tomorrow's problems Thu, 09 Feb 2012 20:05:58 +0000 hourly 1 By: Mike Stallard http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/05/28/german-and-british-factories/#comment-17018 Mike Stallard Thu, 28 May 2009 14:52:36 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=3768#comment-17018 Back to the 1970s....deLorean with its wings......Morris and Austin..... And why? Well, how about there being two MPs for Labour in Luton one of whom is exemplary over expenses? How about there being some Lib Dems in the Euro Elections in Chester near Ellesmere Port? Nah..... Back to the 1970s….deLorean with its wings……Morris and Austin…..

And why?
Well, how about there being two MPs for Labour in Luton one of whom is exemplary over expenses?
How about there being some Lib Dems in the Euro Elections in Chester near Ellesmere Port?

Nah…..

]]> By: Adrian Peirson http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/05/28/german-and-british-factories/#comment-17017 Adrian Peirson Thu, 28 May 2009 14:03:40 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=3768#comment-17017 If the Car Companies ( and others ) fail, then the Banks and Globalists will be able to buy them up cheap, I think this is the intention. Isn't the head of Fiat a regular Bilderberg Attendee. If the Car Companies ( and others ) fail, then the Banks and Globalists will be able to buy them up cheap, I think this is the intention.

Isn’t the head of Fiat a regular Bilderberg Attendee.

]]> By: Citizen Responsible http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/05/28/german-and-british-factories/#comment-17016 Citizen Responsible Thu, 28 May 2009 12:19:14 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=3768#comment-17016 The German government seems to have hi-jacked the negotiations with GM over its European disposals and even seems to be vetting prospective buyers. Saving historic “Opel” cars and jobs could become a campaign issue as politicians in Germany gear up for the federal elections in September. If Britain, Belgium and Spain are not fully involved in the negotiations, when the horse trading is over, there will be no prizes for guessing where the plant closures will be. The German government seems to have hi-jacked the negotiations with GM over its European disposals and even seems to be vetting prospective buyers. Saving historic “Opel” cars and jobs could become a campaign issue as politicians in Germany gear up for the federal elections in September. If Britain, Belgium and Spain are not fully involved in the negotiations, when the horse trading is over, there will be no prizes for guessing where the plant closures will be.

]]> By: oldrightie http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/05/28/german-and-british-factories/#comment-17015 oldrightie Thu, 28 May 2009 11:55:51 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=3768#comment-17015 Now what about these expenses? Much more important than any financial or governance matters, surely? Now what about these expenses? Much more important than any financial or governance matters, surely?

]]> By: Bob Jones http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/05/28/german-and-british-factories/#comment-17014 Bob Jones Thu, 28 May 2009 11:41:28 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=3768#comment-17014 The great irony of the Unions calling for political intervention to stop the negative effects of political intervention from Germany for the U.K., is truly lost on them. When will they learn that politics + business do not go together? It always ends badly. The great irony of the Unions calling for political intervention to stop the negative effects of political intervention from Germany for the U.K., is truly lost on them. When will they learn that politics + business do not go together? It always ends badly.

]]> By: marksany http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/05/28/german-and-british-factories/#comment-17013 marksany Thu, 28 May 2009 11:12:33 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=3768#comment-17013 John, you are a funny man, a very funny man: Germany, looking after Germans, to the detriment of non-Germans, in teh EU? How can this happen? Surely the rules apply equally to all EU mmeber states. Its not like the EU was created just so the Germans and French could create a system to support their wealth creating agri-industrial complex. Hang on.... ....have we been had? John, you are a funny man, a very funny man: Germany, looking after Germans, to the detriment of non-Germans, in teh EU?

How can this happen?

Surely the rules apply equally to all EU mmeber states. Its not like the EU was created just so the Germans and French could create a system to support their wealth creating agri-industrial complex. Hang on….

….have we been had?

]]> By: MarkE http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/05/28/german-and-british-factories/#comment-17012 MarkE Thu, 28 May 2009 10:40:34 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=3768#comment-17012 The motor industry has been suffering from over capacity for years, not merely since the start of the recession. They failed to take the hard decisions when they had the chance and now want taxpayers' money so they can continue to avoid them. I can see a very worrying future where the strongest companies, which will dominate their markets, are not those with the best products or customer service, but those with the ear of government who can rely on taxpayer funded subsidy and legislation to "protect" them (and of course the jobs they provide in carefully selected constituencies) from competition. Consumers will take what they are given because they won't be allowed to choose to buy better, so manufacturers will make what they can get away with (which will be dross). We will see reverse Darwinism with the survival of the weakest - If you are a hopeless case you will get a taxpayer funded subsidy, but well managed companies won't qualify, so they will be unable to compete. The motor industry has been suffering from over capacity for years, not merely since the start of the recession. They failed to take the hard decisions when they had the chance and now want taxpayers’ money so they can continue to avoid them. I can see a very worrying future where the strongest companies, which will dominate their markets, are not those with the best products or customer service, but those with the ear of government who can rely on taxpayer funded subsidy and legislation to “protect” them (and of course the jobs they provide in carefully selected constituencies) from competition. Consumers will take what they are given because they won’t be allowed to choose to buy better, so manufacturers will make what they can get away with (which will be dross).

We will see reverse Darwinism with the survival of the weakest – If you are a hopeless case you will get a taxpayer funded subsidy, but well managed companies won’t qualify, so they will be unable to compete.

]]> By: Demetrius http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/05/28/german-and-british-factories/#comment-17011 Demetrius Thu, 28 May 2009 09:31:21 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=3768#comment-17011 There is a dreadful historical irony in all this, in that after 1945 the British Car Industry had the chance to take a major stake and control over a large part of the derelict German industry. They walked away from it, assuming that the Germans would never be able to compete. Now apart from a few small specialist companies, ours will be gone, and the Germans still functioning on a world basis. What a mess. There is a dreadful historical irony in all this, in that after 1945 the British Car Industry had the chance to take a major stake and control over a large part of the derelict German industry. They walked away from it, assuming that the Germans would never be able to compete. Now apart from a few small specialist companies, ours will be gone, and the Germans still functioning on a world basis. What a mess.

]]> By: Waramess http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/05/28/german-and-british-factories/#comment-17010 Waramess Thu, 28 May 2009 09:05:33 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=3768#comment-17010 I imagine you write more in anger than suprise; the EEC was never more than a Franco German alliance and we should leave them to it. Once we get rid of this wreched government we should consider resigning membership of the EEC, which will be heartily supported by a majority of British people, and let the market and the rules of bankruptcy look after these sorts of things. The Franco/German alliance can then continue their cosy alliance and let the politicians organise their bail-outs without our involvement It will be a lot better for us in the medium term; and a lot healthier. Politicians should not involve themselves in such matters; they are neither capable of picking the winners and losers nor are they capable of ensuring such bail-outs are good value or indeed will work in the long run. Look at the mess Ted Heath made of it I imagine you write more in anger than suprise; the EEC was never more than a Franco German alliance and we should leave them to it.

Once we get rid of this wreched government we should consider resigning membership of the EEC, which will be heartily supported by a majority of British people, and let the market and the rules of bankruptcy look after these sorts of things.

The Franco/German alliance can then continue their cosy alliance and let the politicians organise their bail-outs without our involvement

It will be a lot better for us in the medium term; and a lot healthier.

Politicians should not involve themselves in such matters; they are neither capable of picking the winners and losers nor are they capable of ensuring such bail-outs are good value or indeed will work in the long run.

Look at the mess Ted Heath made of it

]]> By: Brian Tomkinson http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/05/28/german-and-british-factories/#comment-17009 Brian Tomkinson Thu, 28 May 2009 08:52:42 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=3768#comment-17009 Another example of the way governmental meddling distorts the operation of the market made even worse by the activities of the EU. How many more examples do we need before we have politicians in Westminster prepared to withdraw from this anti-democratic institution? Another example of the way governmental meddling distorts the operation of the market made even worse by the activities of the EU. How many more examples do we need before we have politicians in Westminster prepared to withdraw from this anti-democratic institution?

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