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		<title>By: DK</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/05/28/wokingham-times-mps-expenses/#comment-16851</link>
		<dc:creator>DK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 20:39:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a little confused why the commute option is such a non starter. As someone that also works long hours and commutes from London to wokingham everyday (not just 3 days a week) it is something that I feel is perfectly reasonable. Trains run sufficently for you to get to your office for 7.30 and you could even use the commute to go through emails on a blackberry.


If however the commute is really too difficult I would suggest staying at a hotel. You could even expense that if required, I am sure that this would sufficiently reduce costs from the 100k+ you quoted above.

From

Unimpressed constituent

Reply&#124;: MY overnight costs are not £100,000! That was the total cost, mainly staff. It meant I was the lowest cost Berkshire MP that year, and have since cut my costs further. This year I am charging nothing for overnight stays, as I made clear recently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a little confused why the commute option is such a non starter. As someone that also works long hours and commutes from London to wokingham everyday (not just 3 days a week) it is something that I feel is perfectly reasonable. Trains run sufficently for you to get to your office for 7.30 and you could even use the commute to go through emails on a blackberry.</p>
<p>If however the commute is really too difficult I would suggest staying at a hotel. You could even expense that if required, I am sure that this would sufficiently reduce costs from the 100k+ you quoted above.</p>
<p>From</p>
<p>Unimpressed constituent</p>
<p>Reply|: MY overnight costs are not £100,000! That was the total cost, mainly staff. It meant I was the lowest cost Berkshire MP that year, and have since cut my costs further. This year I am charging nothing for overnight stays, as I made clear recently.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Watson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Watson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 17:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see mr Redwood &#039;accidently&#039; submitted a second home £3000 redecorating bill twice, which he had to repay. With this being one of dozens of similar examples of &#039;mistakes&#039; made by mps in their expenses claims, it makes you realise why the country is in such a state. How can we expect these people to make important decisions for the country when they can&#039;t even run their own finances competently.

Reply: I did make an obvious mistake by submitting  the same bill twice. All of us can make mistakes and should say sorry and rectify them as soon as we see them or they are pointed out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see mr Redwood &#8216;accidently&#8217; submitted a second home £3000 redecorating bill twice, which he had to repay. With this being one of dozens of similar examples of &#8216;mistakes&#8217; made by mps in their expenses claims, it makes you realise why the country is in such a state. How can we expect these people to make important decisions for the country when they can&#8217;t even run their own finances competently.</p>
<p>Reply: I did make an obvious mistake by submitting  the same bill twice. All of us can make mistakes and should say sorry and rectify them as soon as we see them or they are pointed out.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Hennessey</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/05/28/wokingham-times-mps-expenses/#comment-16849</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Hennessey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 20:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I respect your integrity John. As you have no axe to grind, you are just the man to raise the matter concerning the Barclay Brothers,  their ownership of the Daily Telegraph and ( ed -how much UK tax they pay)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I respect your integrity John. As you have no axe to grind, you are just the man to raise the matter concerning the Barclay Brothers,  their ownership of the Daily Telegraph and ( ed -how much UK tax they pay)</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Nicol</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/05/28/wokingham-times-mps-expenses/#comment-16848</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Nicol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 19:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sir,

Your comments and principles are commendable. Still I hold to the premise. That a police investigation is a must. This to determine if, or not, fraud has been committed.

Their excuse &quot;within the rules&quot; is not acceptable. Just as &quot;ignorance of the law is no excuse.&quot;

Immediate suspension with no further monetary gain as well a return of tax payer&#039;s money. Must be implemented against those found guilty. Even if only stretching the rules they implemented.

Best wishes,

B. nicol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sir,</p>
<p>Your comments and principles are commendable. Still I hold to the premise. That a police investigation is a must. This to determine if, or not, fraud has been committed.</p>
<p>Their excuse &#8220;within the rules&#8221; is not acceptable. Just as &#8220;ignorance of the law is no excuse.&#8221;</p>
<p>Immediate suspension with no further monetary gain as well a return of tax payer&#8217;s money. Must be implemented against those found guilty. Even if only stretching the rules they implemented.</p>
<p>Best wishes,</p>
<p>B. nicol</p>
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		<title>By: alan jutson</title>
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		<dc:creator>alan jutson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 17:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you.

Good to hear.

Although I think it would be better for everyone if all MP&#039;s had access to sensible, secure and comfortable overnight accomodation provided and maintained by the State, at no cost to MP&#039;s.

This would then eliminate any thought that MP&#039;s were in some way or another speculating on Property, to a degree at the Taxpayers expense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you.</p>
<p>Good to hear.</p>
<p>Although I think it would be better for everyone if all MP&#8217;s had access to sensible, secure and comfortable overnight accomodation provided and maintained by the State, at no cost to MP&#8217;s.</p>
<p>This would then eliminate any thought that MP&#8217;s were in some way or another speculating on Property, to a degree at the Taxpayers expense.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Stallard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Stallard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 14:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder how many Labour MPs are in demand to start up a business?
Whelks anyone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder how many Labour MPs are in demand to start up a business?<br />
Whelks anyone?</p>
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		<title>By: Cliff.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cliff.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 14:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John:

You are indeed a model that many other MPs should follow.
I too am pleased the situatuion has been highlighted however, I feel very uncomfortable about the way the story has been managed by the media.
The drip drip drip way the Telegraph has chosen to cover the story has led to a witch hunt. Question Time last week was little more than a lynch mob.
The MSM appear to me, to have gone after Conservatives as if to try to discredit us.
Today Julie was forced to stand down by a combination of a petition championed by a member of the respect party and the main news channels. Neither of the main news channels made clear that the person organising the petition had her own political agenda.
We now have the spectacle of so called celebs looking at standing for election. We are in danger of ending up with a parliament we deserve!!

I see in today&#039;s Wokingham News that Bracknell&#039;s &quot;bin baron&quot; is thinking about standing to replace Mr Mackay, this in my opinion, if it were to happen, would damage the chances of a Conservative victory in the borough, as most people I speak to dislike the way he forces them to accept crazy bin policies. I hope the local association take this into account when selecting their next candidate.

Keep up the good work John and stay true to Conservative values!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John:</p>
<p>You are indeed a model that many other MPs should follow.<br />
I too am pleased the situatuion has been highlighted however, I feel very uncomfortable about the way the story has been managed by the media.<br />
The drip drip drip way the Telegraph has chosen to cover the story has led to a witch hunt. Question Time last week was little more than a lynch mob.<br />
The MSM appear to me, to have gone after Conservatives as if to try to discredit us.<br />
Today Julie was forced to stand down by a combination of a petition championed by a member of the respect party and the main news channels. Neither of the main news channels made clear that the person organising the petition had her own political agenda.<br />
We now have the spectacle of so called celebs looking at standing for election. We are in danger of ending up with a parliament we deserve!!</p>
<p>I see in today&#8217;s Wokingham News that Bracknell&#8217;s &#8220;bin baron&#8221; is thinking about standing to replace Mr Mackay, this in my opinion, if it were to happen, would damage the chances of a Conservative victory in the borough, as most people I speak to dislike the way he forces them to accept crazy bin policies. I hope the local association take this into account when selecting their next candidate.</p>
<p>Keep up the good work John and stay true to Conservative values!!</p>
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		<title>By: THE ESSEX BOYS</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/05/28/wokingham-times-mps-expenses/#comment-16844</link>
		<dc:creator>THE ESSEX BOYS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 14:02:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Julie Kirkbride etc apart...John your explanation is illuminating and welcome. We musn&#039;t allow the current febrile atmosphere deter the members who have worked out what&#039;s best for themselves and the taxpayer.
There seems to us to be no reason why the 2 things should not be mutually compatible; indeed the very opposite.

If other members went to the trouble of explaining rationally instead of trying to slug it out indignantly their constituents would most likely be understanding and appreciative. That, of course, is where there IS a rational explanation!

As Watergate and most other poitical scandals in the 35 years since have proved, it&#039;s not necessarily the crime but the cover-up the media and public won&#039;t tolerate.

TACKING SLIGHTLY...we read in Private Eye that...

&quot;MPs have their own tax office - Public Dept 1 in Cardiff - which deals with sensitive tax files. The word among tax accountants is that the inspectors there, like officials in the discredited Fees Office, know better than to raise too many questions. What&#039;s good enough for the Fees Office is likely to be OK in Cardiff. The MP cheats Bible is the &#039;Green Book&#039; on salaries, allowances and pensions rules&quot;.

We can&#039;t help feeling that there&#039;s a whole web of intrigue awaiting media and public scrutiny within the Fees Dept AND HMRC, Cardiff...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julie Kirkbride etc apart&#8230;John your explanation is illuminating and welcome. We musn&#8217;t allow the current febrile atmosphere deter the members who have worked out what&#8217;s best for themselves and the taxpayer.<br />
There seems to us to be no reason why the 2 things should not be mutually compatible; indeed the very opposite.</p>
<p>If other members went to the trouble of explaining rationally instead of trying to slug it out indignantly their constituents would most likely be understanding and appreciative. That, of course, is where there IS a rational explanation!</p>
<p>As Watergate and most other poitical scandals in the 35 years since have proved, it&#8217;s not necessarily the crime but the cover-up the media and public won&#8217;t tolerate.</p>
<p>TACKING SLIGHTLY&#8230;we read in Private Eye that&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;MPs have their own tax office &#8211; Public Dept 1 in Cardiff &#8211; which deals with sensitive tax files. The word among tax accountants is that the inspectors there, like officials in the discredited Fees Office, know better than to raise too many questions. What&#8217;s good enough for the Fees Office is likely to be OK in Cardiff. The MP cheats Bible is the &#8216;Green Book&#8217; on salaries, allowances and pensions rules&#8221;.</p>
<p>We can&#8217;t help feeling that there&#8217;s a whole web of intrigue awaiting media and public scrutiny within the Fees Dept AND HMRC, Cardiff&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Elisabeth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elisabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 13:57:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a little confused: why can you not simply commute from Wokingham station itself, as it is only a couple of miles from Crowthorne?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a little confused: why can you not simply commute from Wokingham station itself, as it is only a couple of miles from Crowthorne?</p>
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		<title>By: THE ESSEX BOYS</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/05/28/wokingham-times-mps-expenses/#comment-16842</link>
		<dc:creator>THE ESSEX BOYS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 13:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Events are moving quickly!
How can WE complain when Ms Kirkbride resigns only 3 hours after we blogged on Conservative Home with a copy to DC&#039;s office at 10am this morning! SEE BELOW
As those dire cabinet members trot out time after time - &quot;It&#039;s the right thing to do&quot;.

Well done DC, Julie and all those voters who applied pressure.

************************************************
10.11am 28th May

To DAVID CAMERON:

We have greatly admired your strong and decisive handling of this whole issue so far but the conclusion from all the above is inescapable.
Ms Kirkbride must and we now believe WILL agree to stand down by the weekend.
She has colluded with her husband on the maximisation of the family&#039;s expenses income for years and her connection to him will always be an inescapable millstone.
In short you have no option if you wish to retain the support of your party and the electorate.
On a wider issue we understand that Sir Stuart Bell has revealed that &#039;very high&#039; government interests pressurised the former Speaker to go to the High Court in the failed attempt to maintain secrecy. Harriet Harman has seemingly not denied this but we suspect the hand of the PM in this. This may well prove to be the other story of the weekend and prove to be the circuit breaker on the call for an early general election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Events are moving quickly!<br />
How can WE complain when Ms Kirkbride resigns only 3 hours after we blogged on Conservative Home with a copy to DC&#8217;s office at 10am this morning! SEE BELOW<br />
As those dire cabinet members trot out time after time &#8211; &#8220;It&#8217;s the right thing to do&#8221;.</p>
<p>Well done DC, Julie and all those voters who applied pressure.</p>
<p>************************************************<br />
10.11am 28th May</p>
<p>To DAVID CAMERON:</p>
<p>We have greatly admired your strong and decisive handling of this whole issue so far but the conclusion from all the above is inescapable.<br />
Ms Kirkbride must and we now believe WILL agree to stand down by the weekend.<br />
She has colluded with her husband on the maximisation of the family&#8217;s expenses income for years and her connection to him will always be an inescapable millstone.<br />
In short you have no option if you wish to retain the support of your party and the electorate.<br />
On a wider issue we understand that Sir Stuart Bell has revealed that &#8216;very high&#8217; government interests pressurised the former Speaker to go to the High Court in the failed attempt to maintain secrecy. Harriet Harman has seemingly not denied this but we suspect the hand of the PM in this. This may well prove to be the other story of the weekend and prove to be the circuit breaker on the call for an early general election.</p>
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