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		<title>By: Adrian Peirson</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/06/23/prices-and-money/#comment-18179</link>
		<dc:creator>Adrian Peirson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 18:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>52 Reasons to get out of the EU.

Threy are taking us to a totalitarian Command Economy, where every move, every action is state sanctioned.
Look around you and tell me I&#039;m wrong.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NtSd0EOF3w

Now would be a real good time your Majesty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>52 Reasons to get out of the EU.</p>
<p>Threy are taking us to a totalitarian Command Economy, where every move, every action is state sanctioned.<br />
Look around you and tell me I&#8217;m wrong.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NtSd0EOF3w" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NtSd0EOF3w</a></p>
<p>Now would be a real good time your Majesty.</p>
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		<title>By: Lola</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/06/23/prices-and-money/#comment-18178</link>
		<dc:creator>Lola</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 09:30:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, not entirely correct.  A speculator is a person who taks the slack out of a market.  He is a buyer of risk.  An insurer if you like.  This is entirely different to an investor or a true investment manager, who does not speculate.

There are tens of thousands of collective investment schemes including pension funds availabe to the UK retail investor.  In this universe there are very speculative funds - Japanese Warrants say - and very unspeculative funds - most index trackers and passively managed funds.

An between these there are many other funds run under various philosophies - &#039;value&#039; for example - where the manager does not set out to speculate but to make a decision about the absolute or relative value of a security and its propsects.  He runs a fund as he knows that his analysis will not always succeed and that diversification reduces risk.

So it is entirely incorrect to lump all collectives managers as speculators.  They are not.

This brings us to tax.  You do not tax speculation.  It just puts up the price of the risk insurance provided by the speculator and impoverishes us all.  This applies to those that try and foresee the future course of oil prices and other commodities.  What these &#039;speculators&#039; actually achieve is the stabilisation of prices.  It is Government interference and the actions of cartels like OPEC that cause price rises, not the speculators.

In fact you are only attacking a symptom not the cause.  The excess of &#039;speculation&#039; which you indentify, house prices, was driven entirely by excess liquidity, too much money at too low a price.  To control house price &#039;speculation&#039;, make the government run sound money and ensure banks run sound capital and solvency ratios, both of which were undermined by Browns policies.

As to the taxation of land, I entirely agree.  Introduce land value tax to replace private and business rates, CGT, VAT IHT etc etc.  And that would go a long way, with sound money, to stopping stupid house price bubbles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, not entirely correct.  A speculator is a person who taks the slack out of a market.  He is a buyer of risk.  An insurer if you like.  This is entirely different to an investor or a true investment manager, who does not speculate.</p>
<p>There are tens of thousands of collective investment schemes including pension funds availabe to the UK retail investor.  In this universe there are very speculative funds &#8211; Japanese Warrants say &#8211; and very unspeculative funds &#8211; most index trackers and passively managed funds.</p>
<p>An between these there are many other funds run under various philosophies &#8211; &#8216;value&#8217; for example &#8211; where the manager does not set out to speculate but to make a decision about the absolute or relative value of a security and its propsects.  He runs a fund as he knows that his analysis will not always succeed and that diversification reduces risk.</p>
<p>So it is entirely incorrect to lump all collectives managers as speculators.  They are not.</p>
<p>This brings us to tax.  You do not tax speculation.  It just puts up the price of the risk insurance provided by the speculator and impoverishes us all.  This applies to those that try and foresee the future course of oil prices and other commodities.  What these &#8216;speculators&#8217; actually achieve is the stabilisation of prices.  It is Government interference and the actions of cartels like OPEC that cause price rises, not the speculators.</p>
<p>In fact you are only attacking a symptom not the cause.  The excess of &#8216;speculation&#8217; which you indentify, house prices, was driven entirely by excess liquidity, too much money at too low a price.  To control house price &#8216;speculation&#8217;, make the government run sound money and ensure banks run sound capital and solvency ratios, both of which were undermined by Browns policies.</p>
<p>As to the taxation of land, I entirely agree.  Introduce land value tax to replace private and business rates, CGT, VAT IHT etc etc.  And that would go a long way, with sound money, to stopping stupid house price bubbles.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Stallard</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/06/23/prices-and-money/#comment-18177</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Stallard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 16:07:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you, by any chance, the same person whom I meet twice a week in the gym at Wisbech? If so, allow me to say how much your advice there has helped me along through these difficult times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you, by any chance, the same person whom I meet twice a week in the gym at Wisbech? If so, allow me to say how much your advice there has helped me along through these difficult times.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Coates</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/06/23/prices-and-money/#comment-18176</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Coates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 15:51:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is speculative because those pension managers, like all fund and investment managers will speculate with the investment. You may not intend it to be, but it will be. So it isn&#039;t just Gordon Brown who is an outrageous manager of other people&#039;s money, and the ruiner of pensions - the industry itself, which totally believed Brown&#039;s no more bust rhetoric (lies), has itself to blame.

The only reason to have a pension is the employer contribution and that is clearly going to fall...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is speculative because those pension managers, like all fund and investment managers will speculate with the investment. You may not intend it to be, but it will be. So it isn&#8217;t just Gordon Brown who is an outrageous manager of other people&#8217;s money, and the ruiner of pensions &#8211; the industry itself, which totally believed Brown&#8217;s no more bust rhetoric (lies), has itself to blame.</p>
<p>The only reason to have a pension is the employer contribution and that is clearly going to fall&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: jon</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/06/23/prices-and-money/#comment-18175</link>
		<dc:creator>jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I appreciate my comment was a generalisation and supply management is a big issue here. However there are costly projects to pay for which are getting more expensive and a number of commentators over the years have put that as a price that they don&#039;t really wish to go below for too long.  OPEC did try to include the likes of Nigeria recently though I can&#039;t see that happening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciate my comment was a generalisation and supply management is a big issue here. However there are costly projects to pay for which are getting more expensive and a number of commentators over the years have put that as a price that they don&#8217;t really wish to go below for too long.  OPEC did try to include the likes of Nigeria recently though I can&#8217;t see that happening.</p>
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		<title>By: Denis Cooper</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/06/23/prices-and-money/#comment-18174</link>
		<dc:creator>Denis Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 09:28:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the record, last week the Bank of England created another £6.5 billion and used it to buy up existing gilts, while the Treasury borrowed £6.8 billion by issuing new gilts.

As of June 18th, the &quot;Quantity of assets purchased by the creation of central bank reserves&quot; was £92.72 billion:

http://www.bankofengland.co.uk/markets/apf/results.htm

broken down as follows:

Commercial Paper £2.10 billion
Corporate Bonds £0.75 billion
Gilts £89.87 billion

ie 97% of the &quot;quantitative easing&quot; has been used to ensure that the government can continue to borrow in order to cover its budget deficit, which is now running at about a quarter of its expenditure.

The question is whether the Bank will agree to continue to help the government out for long enough - ie, until it can go into an election next spring claiming to have seen us through the recession - or the MPC will decide this autumn that there&#039;s no longer any plausible justification for more &quot;quantitative easing&quot; of its financial difficulties.

My guess is that the MPC will look at the potential economic consequences of suddenly cutting off the supply of new money, and will decide to tail it off very gradually during 2010.

And on that basis, I&#039;d say that Gordon Brown still has a fighting chance of winning the next election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the record, last week the Bank of England created another £6.5 billion and used it to buy up existing gilts, while the Treasury borrowed £6.8 billion by issuing new gilts.</p>
<p>As of June 18th, the &#8220;Quantity of assets purchased by the creation of central bank reserves&#8221; was £92.72 billion:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bankofengland.co.uk/markets/apf/results.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.bankofengland.co.uk/markets/apf/results.htm</a></p>
<p>broken down as follows:</p>
<p>Commercial Paper £2.10 billion<br />
Corporate Bonds £0.75 billion<br />
Gilts £89.87 billion</p>
<p>ie 97% of the &#8220;quantitative easing&#8221; has been used to ensure that the government can continue to borrow in order to cover its budget deficit, which is now running at about a quarter of its expenditure.</p>
<p>The question is whether the Bank will agree to continue to help the government out for long enough &#8211; ie, until it can go into an election next spring claiming to have seen us through the recession &#8211; or the MPC will decide this autumn that there&#8217;s no longer any plausible justification for more &#8220;quantitative easing&#8221; of its financial difficulties.</p>
<p>My guess is that the MPC will look at the potential economic consequences of suddenly cutting off the supply of new money, and will decide to tail it off very gradually during 2010.</p>
<p>And on that basis, I&#8217;d say that Gordon Brown still has a fighting chance of winning the next election.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/06/23/prices-and-money/#comment-18173</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 08:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just 10 years ago OPEC was pumping at full rate with prices under $10, engaged in a full scale market share war.  They certainly don&#039;t need $65 to make a profit on anything other than some minor project sponsored by a foreign oil company in return for a supply contract.  The judgement for them is the price track that will maximise their return from their resource.  Too high a price, and competing supply erodes current volume and income, and potentially extends the resource life to a period when a real substitute cuts energy cost (e.g. say fusion at some point).  Too low a price, and revenue is reduced on that account - something that matters greatly to those whose resource is nearing exhaustion.  Differing reserve life expectations ultimately divide OPEC.  Actions are driven by social pressures in Venezuela, Iran, (and maybe soon Iraq again), Saudi and Nigeria: the others are also-rans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just 10 years ago OPEC was pumping at full rate with prices under $10, engaged in a full scale market share war.  They certainly don&#8217;t need $65 to make a profit on anything other than some minor project sponsored by a foreign oil company in return for a supply contract.  The judgement for them is the price track that will maximise their return from their resource.  Too high a price, and competing supply erodes current volume and income, and potentially extends the resource life to a period when a real substitute cuts energy cost (e.g. say fusion at some point).  Too low a price, and revenue is reduced on that account &#8211; something that matters greatly to those whose resource is nearing exhaustion.  Differing reserve life expectations ultimately divide OPEC.  Actions are driven by social pressures in Venezuela, Iran, (and maybe soon Iraq again), Saudi and Nigeria: the others are also-rans.</p>
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		<title>By: jean baker</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/06/23/prices-and-money/#comment-18172</link>
		<dc:creator>jean baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 08:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Innovative IT &#039;whizz kids&#039; (R &amp;D engineers) are invaluable to clients needing &#039;fast flowing stream of new projects&#039; and those I know are paid handsomely !   Worth their weight in gold, I&#039;m told.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Innovative IT &#8216;whizz kids&#8217; (R &amp;D engineers) are invaluable to clients needing &#8216;fast flowing stream of new projects&#8217; and those I know are paid handsomely !   Worth their weight in gold, I&#8217;m told.</p>
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		<title>By: jean baker</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/06/23/prices-and-money/#comment-18171</link>
		<dc:creator>jean baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 08:05:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS - I recently read a &#039;German group&#039; formed the EU to succeed where Hitler failed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS &#8211; I recently read a &#8216;German group&#8217; formed the EU to succeed where Hitler failed.</p>
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		<title>By: jean baker</title>
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		<dc:creator>jean baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 08:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Commonly called &#039;spin and manipulation&#039;.  In Britain&#039;s case, Brussels based EU financial centralization.  Bliar&#039;s reward (reportedly) the next presidency.  To kill time he&#039;s on a (reportedly) taxpayer funded &#039;mission of peacekeeping&#039; - frontline confirmation he&#039;s as &#039;useful as a chocolate fireguard&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Commonly called &#8216;spin and manipulation&#8217;.  In Britain&#8217;s case, Brussels based EU financial centralization.  Bliar&#8217;s reward (reportedly) the next presidency.  To kill time he&#8217;s on a (reportedly) taxpayer funded &#8216;mission of peacekeeping&#8217; &#8211; frontline confirmation he&#8217;s as &#8216;useful as a chocolate fireguard&#8217;.</p>
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