Comments on: Leaving the European Peoples Party

By: Kevin Lohse

Kevin Lohse — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 18:09:48 +0000

I read somewhere that Mr Farage has actually joined the EPP. Can anyone confirm this?

By: Denis Cooper

Denis Cooper — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:43:09 +0000

Interesting question. I suppose originally it may have been because the majority of MEPs have a collectivist mentality, and rather than allowing individuals to form into groups as they pleased it was decided that there must be regulations. I find in the 1985 edition of Whitaker’s Almanack that MEPs were already sitting in multi-national political groups – Socialists, Christian Democrats, Liberals and Democrats, etc – but there’s no mention of any rules. However by 1995 “The Parliament’s organisation is deliberately biased in favour of multi-national political groupings, with recognition of a political grouping … being easier for multi-national groups”. Then the rule ran: one country – at least 26 members; two countries – at least 21 members; three countries – at least 16 members; four or more countries – at least 13 members. Those rules have gradually been tightened, deliberately and with increasingly malicious intent, so that now 25 assorted members from seven countries can form an officially recognised group, but 50 members from three countries can’t form a group unless they can find at least one MEP from each of at least four other countries to join them. Which is what the Tory MEPs have had to do – 26 Britons, 15 Poles and 9 Czechs, plus one each from Belgium, Hungary, Latvia and the Netherlands.

By: Adrian Peirson

Adrian Peirson — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:40:26 +0000

Foreign OR domestic Generals, what are you waiting for, the whites of their eyes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NtSd0EOF3w

By: Adrian Peirson

Adrian Peirson — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:33:17 +0000

all cameron has to do is say he will tear up the Treaties, the EU is Illegal, Treason is Illeagl, health lied when he said’ no loss of essential sovereignty’
He was even working for a foreign power when he made these lies.
Do we have laws in this country or not, the answer is we do not,

we are a country under foreign occupation and our people marginalised through colonisation, abortion and sterilisation.

http://worldreports.org/news/6_e.u._treaties_procured_by_payola_corruption

By: Adrian Peirson

Adrian Peirson — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:27:25 +0000

blocks make it harder for Individuals to come togther on issues, for example, it stops nationalist groups from having much of a say.
Recently they changed the rules pecisely to prevent the Nationalist groups from forming a block, they raised the number of Mep’s needed from 20 to 25.
The EU is a dictatotship and will keep pulling the ladder up at the slightest threat.
If the EU allows the conservatives new grouping it is because it benefits the EU.
the EU is not going to allow groups to form that threaten it.

By: Denis Cooper

Denis Cooper — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:48:59 +0000

It wouldn’t help with the formation of a qualifying group, as the group already has more than enough total members (minimum 25), and the Tory MEPs and the UKIP MEPs are not from different countries (minimum seven).

By: Liz

Liz — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:43:13 +0000

I quite agree with this – the EU is working flat out to get the Lisbon Treaty through before the general election. What is so difficult about the Conservative Party supporting majority opinion in this country and not just those of a self selected political elite? What is the point of such an election anyway if all real power has been drained away to unelected bureaucrats controlled by France and Germany and Westminster is reduced to the level of a Parish Council?

By: Paul

Paul — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 12:27:19 +0000

John,

I really would like to believe that the Conservative Party is EU Sceptic but I’m afraid the evidence is stacked against. Not least no promise of a definate referendum, Conservative members of Better Off Out still barred from the front bench, Daniel Hannan not allowed to stand as an MP because he is a BOO member and worst of all one Mr Kenneth Clarke on the front bench making up Pro EU policy on TV.

By: jean baker

jean baker — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 11:35:08 +0000

Perhaps those ‘hailing Brussels’ dictate and failing to protect UK interests will be duly recompensed by a ‘job’ in the EU – following in the Kinnock’s footsteps.

Labour is serving just one master – not the electorate, but the EU; Blair awaits, what appears to be, his ‘promised’ Presidency.

I believe those fooled into agreeing to Labour’s MP’s pension proposals will live to regret it …… they govern FOR Brussels and do so by stealth. Much has been done via ‘leaks’ to undermine the role and reputation of our dedicated MP’s, including you, John – a victim of ‘misinformation’ published by the media.

By: Publius

Publius — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 11:04:14 +0000

“unencumbered by too much centralised Euro bureaucracy”

Thing is, who gets to decide what “too much” constitutes?