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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/07/17/helicopters-at-the-air-show/#comment-19528</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 13:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We could simply hire/lease/buy more Blackhawks, Bell 212s/412s (updated Hueys to those not in the know) and Russian MI8s which our special forces are using crewed by RAF pilots! We could within 3 months get the most appropiate kit for theatre at the least cost to the tax payer, as our own project kit is often 3-4x more expensive. We don&#039;t have the will because it threatens various top Military brass&#039; empires and pet projects.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We could simply hire/lease/buy more Blackhawks, Bell 212s/412s (updated Hueys to those not in the know) and Russian MI8s which our special forces are using crewed by RAF pilots! We could within 3 months get the most appropiate kit for theatre at the least cost to the tax payer, as our own project kit is often 3-4x more expensive. We don&#8217;t have the will because it threatens various top Military brass&#8217; empires and pet projects.</p>
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		<title>By: john Laity</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/07/17/helicopters-at-the-air-show/#comment-19527</link>
		<dc:creator>john Laity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:59:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to be clear, the list I gave earlier was 20 minutes worth of arrivals.

RIAT will host the following UK Aircraft (Not just Anti-Submarine and Anti-Ship).

Army Air Corps
Apache AH1 NATO 60th
Apache AH1 and Lynx AH7 NATO 60th
Defender AL1	651 Squadron	NATO 60th
Islander AL1	1 Flt, 5 Regt	NATO 60th
Lynx AH7	672 Sqn, 9 Regt	NATO 60th
Lynx AH9	672 Sqn, 9 Regt	NATO 60th

QinetiQ
Sea King Mk4 X	QinetiQ	Fly Navy 100

Royal Air Force
A109E Power	32 (TR) Squadron	NATO 60th
C-17A Globemaster III	99 Squadron	NATO 60th
C-17A Globemaster III	99 Squadron	NATO 60th
Chinook HC2	27 Squadron	NATO 60th
Chinook HC2	27 Squadron	NATO 60th
Dominie T1	55 (R) Squadron	NATO 60th
E-3D Sentry AEW1	8 Squadron	NATO 60th
Griffin HT1	60 (R) Squadron	NATO 60th
Grob Viking (x2)	621 VGS	NATO 60th
Harrier GR7/9	TBC	NATO 60th
Hawk T1	208 (R) Squadron	NATO 60th
Hawk T1 (x11)	The Red Arrows	NATO 60th
Hawk T1 (x2)	208 (R) Squadron	NATO 60th
Hawk T2	19 Squadron	NATO 60th
Hurricane IIC	BBMF	NATO 60th
King Air B200	45 (R) Squadron	NATO 60th
King Air B200	45 (R) Squadron	NATO 60th
Lancaster B1	BBMF	NATO 60th
Merlin HC3	28 (AC) Squadron	NATO 60th
Merlin HC3A	78 Squadron	NATO 60th
Nimrod MRA2	42 (R) Squadron	Sea Search 09
Puma HC1	33 Squadron	NATO 60th
Puma HC1	230 Squadron	NATO 60th
Sea King HAR3	202 Squadron	NATO 60th
Sea King HAR3	202 Squadron	Sea Search 09
Sentinel R1	5 (AC) Squadron	NATO 60th
Spitfire	BBMF	NATO 60th
Squirrel HT1	60 (R) Squadron	NATO 60th
Squirrel HT1 (x2)	DHFS
Tornado F3	111 Squadron	NATO 60th
Tornado GR4	XIII Squadron	NATO 60th
Tristar	216 Squadron	NATO 60th
Tucano T.1 (x2)	207 (R) Squadron	NATO 60th
Typhoon (x2)	29 (R) Squadron	NATO 60th
VC10 C1K	101 Squadron	NATO 60th
VC-10 C1K	101 Squadron	NATO 60th
Vigilant (x4)	612 VGS	NATO 60th
Viking T1 (x2)	621 VGS

Royal Navy
Chipmunk	RNHF	Fly Navy 100
Falcon 20 (x2) and Hawk T1 (x4)	The Black Sea Hawks	Fly Navy 100
Harrier GR7/9	NSW	Fly Navy 100
Harrier GR7/9 (x3)	NSW	Fly Navy 100
Hawk T1 (x2)	NFSF (FW)	Fly Navy 100
Jetstream T2	750 NAS	Fly Navy 100
Jetstream T2 (x4)	750 NAS	Fly Navy 100
Lynx	815 NAS	Fly Navy 100
Lynx AH7	847 NAS	Fly Navy 100
Lynx HAS3/HMA8 (x2)	The Black Cats	Fly Navy 100
Lynx HAS3/HMA8 (x4)	various	Fly Navy 100
Merlin HM1	TBC	Fly Navy 100
Merlin HM1	814 NAS	Fly Navy 100
Merlin HM1 (x4)	various	Fly Navy 100
Sea King ASac7 (x2) &amp; HU5 (x2)	various	Fly Navy 100
Sea King HAS2	Sea King IPT	Fly Navy 100
Sea King HAS6	846 NAS	Fly Navy 100
Sea King HC4	845 NAS	Fly Navy 100
Sea King HC4/HAS6 (x4)	CHF	Fly Navy 100
Sea King HUS5 (SAR)	771 NAS	Fly Navy 100
Squirrel HT1 (x2) &amp; Griffin HT1 (x2)	DHFS	Fly Navy 100
T67M Firefly (x4)	703 NAS	Fly Navy 100

I must restate that I believe the Air Show to be an excellent event and support it. It showcases the abilities of our service personnel and aircraft and creates UK trade Opportunities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to be clear, the list I gave earlier was 20 minutes worth of arrivals.</p>
<p>RIAT will host the following UK Aircraft (Not just Anti-Submarine and Anti-Ship).</p>
<p>Army Air Corps<br />
Apache AH1 NATO 60th<br />
Apache AH1 and Lynx AH7 NATO 60th<br />
Defender AL1	651 Squadron	NATO 60th<br />
Islander AL1	1 Flt, 5 Regt	NATO 60th<br />
Lynx AH7	672 Sqn, 9 Regt	NATO 60th<br />
Lynx AH9	672 Sqn, 9 Regt	NATO 60th</p>
<p>QinetiQ<br />
Sea King Mk4 X	QinetiQ	Fly Navy 100</p>
<p>Royal Air Force<br />
A109E Power	32 (TR) Squadron	NATO 60th<br />
C-17A Globemaster III	99 Squadron	NATO 60th<br />
C-17A Globemaster III	99 Squadron	NATO 60th<br />
Chinook HC2	27 Squadron	NATO 60th<br />
Chinook HC2	27 Squadron	NATO 60th<br />
Dominie T1	55 (R) Squadron	NATO 60th<br />
E-3D Sentry AEW1	8 Squadron	NATO 60th<br />
Griffin HT1	60 (R) Squadron	NATO 60th<br />
Grob Viking (x2)	621 VGS	NATO 60th<br />
Harrier GR7/9	TBC	NATO 60th<br />
Hawk T1	208 (R) Squadron	NATO 60th<br />
Hawk T1 (x11)	The Red Arrows	NATO 60th<br />
Hawk T1 (x2)	208 (R) Squadron	NATO 60th<br />
Hawk T2	19 Squadron	NATO 60th<br />
Hurricane IIC	BBMF	NATO 60th<br />
King Air B200	45 (R) Squadron	NATO 60th<br />
King Air B200	45 (R) Squadron	NATO 60th<br />
Lancaster B1	BBMF	NATO 60th<br />
Merlin HC3	28 (AC) Squadron	NATO 60th<br />
Merlin HC3A	78 Squadron	NATO 60th<br />
Nimrod MRA2	42 (R) Squadron	Sea Search 09<br />
Puma HC1	33 Squadron	NATO 60th<br />
Puma HC1	230 Squadron	NATO 60th<br />
Sea King HAR3	202 Squadron	NATO 60th<br />
Sea King HAR3	202 Squadron	Sea Search 09<br />
Sentinel R1	5 (AC) Squadron	NATO 60th<br />
Spitfire	BBMF	NATO 60th<br />
Squirrel HT1	60 (R) Squadron	NATO 60th<br />
Squirrel HT1 (x2)	DHFS<br />
Tornado F3	111 Squadron	NATO 60th<br />
Tornado GR4	XIII Squadron	NATO 60th<br />
Tristar	216 Squadron	NATO 60th<br />
Tucano T.1 (x2)	207 (R) Squadron	NATO 60th<br />
Typhoon (x2)	29 (R) Squadron	NATO 60th<br />
VC10 C1K	101 Squadron	NATO 60th<br />
VC-10 C1K	101 Squadron	NATO 60th<br />
Vigilant (x4)	612 VGS	NATO 60th<br />
Viking T1 (x2)	621 VGS</p>
<p>Royal Navy<br />
Chipmunk	RNHF	Fly Navy 100<br />
Falcon 20 (x2) and Hawk T1 (x4)	The Black Sea Hawks	Fly Navy 100<br />
Harrier GR7/9	NSW	Fly Navy 100<br />
Harrier GR7/9 (x3)	NSW	Fly Navy 100<br />
Hawk T1 (x2)	NFSF (FW)	Fly Navy 100<br />
Jetstream T2	750 NAS	Fly Navy 100<br />
Jetstream T2 (x4)	750 NAS	Fly Navy 100<br />
Lynx	815 NAS	Fly Navy 100<br />
Lynx AH7	847 NAS	Fly Navy 100<br />
Lynx HAS3/HMA8 (x2)	The Black Cats	Fly Navy 100<br />
Lynx HAS3/HMA8 (x4)	various	Fly Navy 100<br />
Merlin HM1	TBC	Fly Navy 100<br />
Merlin HM1	814 NAS	Fly Navy 100<br />
Merlin HM1 (x4)	various	Fly Navy 100<br />
Sea King ASac7 (x2) &amp; HU5 (x2)	various	Fly Navy 100<br />
Sea King HAS2	Sea King IPT	Fly Navy 100<br />
Sea King HAS6	846 NAS	Fly Navy 100<br />
Sea King HC4	845 NAS	Fly Navy 100<br />
Sea King HC4/HAS6 (x4)	CHF	Fly Navy 100<br />
Sea King HUS5 (SAR)	771 NAS	Fly Navy 100<br />
Squirrel HT1 (x2) &amp; Griffin HT1 (x2)	DHFS	Fly Navy 100<br />
T67M Firefly (x4)	703 NAS	Fly Navy 100</p>
<p>I must restate that I believe the Air Show to be an excellent event and support it. It showcases the abilities of our service personnel and aircraft and creates UK trade Opportunities.</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart Fairney</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/07/17/helicopters-at-the-air-show/#comment-19526</link>
		<dc:creator>Stuart Fairney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:35:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, just pedantry completely unrelated to the serious and substantive point</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, just pedantry completely unrelated to the serious and substantive point</p>
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		<title>By: james Madden</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/07/17/helicopters-at-the-air-show/#comment-19525</link>
		<dc:creator>james Madden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 15:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thumper.

Check your facts...not that facts mean a lot to Labour stooges.

There is a huge Air Show at RAF Fairford.  Take a look: http://www.airtattoo.com/airshow</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thumper.</p>
<p>Check your facts&#8230;not that facts mean a lot to Labour stooges.</p>
<p>There is a huge Air Show at RAF Fairford.  Take a look: <a href="http://www.airtattoo.com/airshow" rel="nofollow">http://www.airtattoo.com/airshow</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mike Stallard</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/07/17/helicopters-at-the-air-show/#comment-19524</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Stallard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 11:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am sure that this will give great comfort to all the families and widows of the soldiers who had to travel by road in Afghanistan.
I notice that the Minister of Defense (sic?) travels by air there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sure that this will give great comfort to all the families and widows of the soldiers who had to travel by road in Afghanistan.<br />
I notice that the Minister of Defense (sic?) travels by air there.</p>
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		<title>By: DominicJ</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/07/17/helicopters-at-the-air-show/#comment-19523</link>
		<dc:creator>DominicJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 11:48:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Have even Tories given up on spelling?&quot;

No, the comprehensives that educated us did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Have even Tories given up on spelling?&#8221;</p>
<p>No, the comprehensives that educated us did.</p>
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		<title>By: john Laity</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/07/17/helicopters-at-the-air-show/#comment-19522</link>
		<dc:creator>john Laity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 10:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In other words.

You will have to put up with my bad spelling as I am the downside to winning over the switch voter !

;0) John L

PS: My Air show &quot;rant&quot; was done late at night, whilst in a bad mood.

However, I simply don&#039;t get how you can deploy a small force that uses mobility to extend its coverage and deny the enemy ground. Then you don&#039;t supply mobility assets? How can that work ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In other words.</p>
<p>You will have to put up with my bad spelling as I am the downside to winning over the switch voter !</p>
<p>;0) John L</p>
<p>PS: My Air show &#8220;rant&#8221; was done late at night, whilst in a bad mood.</p>
<p>However, I simply don&#8217;t get how you can deploy a small force that uses mobility to extend its coverage and deny the enemy ground. Then you don&#8217;t supply mobility assets? How can that work ?</p>
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		<title>By: no one</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/07/17/helicopters-at-the-air-show/#comment-19521</link>
		<dc:creator>no one</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 09:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there is at least one chinnock regularly flying low over london

presumably flying VIPs around, or maybe special forces for unexpected events in the capital

seems a remarkable waste of one of our few heavy lift helicopters in the current circumstances

or maybe im just cynical</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there is at least one chinnock regularly flying low over london</p>
<p>presumably flying VIPs around, or maybe special forces for unexpected events in the capital</p>
<p>seems a remarkable waste of one of our few heavy lift helicopters in the current circumstances</p>
<p>or maybe im just cynical</p>
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		<title>By: oldrightie</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/07/17/helicopters-at-the-air-show/#comment-19520</link>
		<dc:creator>oldrightie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 09:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roger Thumper, we oldies blog at great speed, fuelled by the anger and fear our lives are now so full of after 13 years of a wrecking crew that must rank as more highly successful than Adolf&#039;s Luftwaffe. (German spelling, correct me if wrong).
So, I am most forgiving of such typing errors, making many as I do myself.
Now if we consider the educational attainment of Labours&#039; &quot;Failed Experiment&quot;, (Phony Tony, 2006, I believe, on Comprehensive Education policy), spelling mistakes are the least of our Nations&#039; problems. E.g Jimmy&#039;s inability to manage money for a start.

p.s. I always refer to James Gordon Brown as Jimmy. His Father used this nickname just before he indulged in humiliation of his son. How else did he become such a weird character?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roger Thumper, we oldies blog at great speed, fuelled by the anger and fear our lives are now so full of after 13 years of a wrecking crew that must rank as more highly successful than Adolf&#8217;s Luftwaffe. (German spelling, correct me if wrong).<br />
So, I am most forgiving of such typing errors, making many as I do myself.<br />
Now if we consider the educational attainment of Labours&#8217; &#8220;Failed Experiment&#8221;, (Phony Tony, 2006, I believe, on Comprehensive Education policy), spelling mistakes are the least of our Nations&#8217; problems. E.g Jimmy&#8217;s inability to manage money for a start.</p>
<p>p.s. I always refer to James Gordon Brown as Jimmy. His Father used this nickname just before he indulged in humiliation of his son. How else did he become such a weird character?</p>
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		<title>By: john Laity</title>
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		<dc:creator>john Laity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 09:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>During the IAT RAF Brize Norton Extends its airspace (MATZ) in a &quot;pan handle&quot; to Purton Woods, effectively touching RAF Lyneham Airspace, which encompasses Wootton Bassett.

I have to apologise for the miss-spelling of Wootton Basset (round here it is just called Basset) and Lyneham. I am well known for my ability to miss-spell when upset by political rubbish !

For the Record I am (should say was) a member of the Labour Party. However, I will not be voting Labour in 2010 as I cannot support a Government that allows workers at LDV to be redundant, when their skills could be used upgrading Landrovers for the MOD....Most LDV workers know the Landrover inside out!

Commanding Officers can only deploy the resources they have allocated for the field. I believe that the Government / MOD sanctions all deployment requests and orders, so the blame for the current poor level of resourcing cannot be avoided.

It is a time for action, not excuses. Otherwise we may as well expect Wootton Basset to be very busy for all the wrong reasons.

PS: Please visit IAT if you can and show your support for our Armed Forces who do a fantastic job with and for very little!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>During the IAT RAF Brize Norton Extends its airspace (MATZ) in a &#8220;pan handle&#8221; to Purton Woods, effectively touching RAF Lyneham Airspace, which encompasses Wootton Bassett.</p>
<p>I have to apologise for the miss-spelling of Wootton Basset (round here it is just called Basset) and Lyneham. I am well known for my ability to miss-spell when upset by political rubbish !</p>
<p>For the Record I am (should say was) a member of the Labour Party. However, I will not be voting Labour in 2010 as I cannot support a Government that allows workers at LDV to be redundant, when their skills could be used upgrading Landrovers for the MOD&#8230;.Most LDV workers know the Landrover inside out!</p>
<p>Commanding Officers can only deploy the resources they have allocated for the field. I believe that the Government / MOD sanctions all deployment requests and orders, so the blame for the current poor level of resourcing cannot be avoided.</p>
<p>It is a time for action, not excuses. Otherwise we may as well expect Wootton Basset to be very busy for all the wrong reasons.</p>
<p>PS: Please visit IAT if you can and show your support for our Armed Forces who do a fantastic job with and for very little!</p>
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