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		<title>By: Citizen Responsible</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/07/28/defra-the-home-of-the-quango-and-the-management-consultant/#comment-20115</link>
		<dc:creator>Citizen Responsible</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 10:21:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This reminds me of an article I read in the Asia Times online of 30/06/09 by Spengler in which he alleges that one of the best-informed people in the American security establishment told him that president Barack Obama is a &quot;Manchurian Candidate&quot;.

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/KF30Ak02.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This reminds me of an article I read in the Asia Times online of 30/06/09 by Spengler in which he alleges that one of the best-informed people in the American security establishment told him that president Barack Obama is a &#8220;Manchurian Candidate&#8221;.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/KF30Ak02.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/KF30Ak02.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: John D</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/07/28/defra-the-home-of-the-quango-and-the-management-consultant/#comment-20114</link>
		<dc:creator>John D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 23:54:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, I agree with the Food Standard&#039;s Agency being reformed......

We still need them to prevent Monty Python&#039;s &quot;Crunchy Frog&quot; sketch from becoming reality
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dy6uLfermPU

But what we don&#039;t need is them becoming a Government endorsed group of &quot;Food Nazi&#039;s&quot; like the ones being campaigned against on this American website:
http://www.consumerfreedom.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, I agree with the Food Standard&#8217;s Agency being reformed&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>We still need them to prevent Monty Python&#8217;s &#8220;Crunchy Frog&#8221; sketch from becoming reality<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dy6uLfermPU" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dy6uLfermPU</a></p>
<p>But what we don&#8217;t need is them becoming a Government endorsed group of &#8220;Food Nazi&#8217;s&#8221; like the ones being campaigned against on this American website:<br />
<a href="http://www.consumerfreedom.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.consumerfreedom.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: John D</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/07/28/defra-the-home-of-the-quango-and-the-management-consultant/#comment-20113</link>
		<dc:creator>John D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 23:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Environment Agency is one to keep, as they bring in money from issueing the rod licenses required to fish in Freshwater in England &amp; Wales - about a million of the things a year, though they&#039;re starting to get a bit pricey:
2009/10 Coarse &amp; Non-Migratory Trout = £26 (not too bad)
2009/10 Salmon, Sea Trout, Coarse &amp; Non-Migratory Trout = £70 a year (only cost £60 in 2002, £62 in 2004, £63.50 in 2005).
http://www.environment-agency.gov.uk/homeandleisure/recreation/fishing/106684.aspx

At least this year they&#039;ve FINALLY replaced the traditional paper licenses (which were getting a bit too big, even when folded) with a card like thing similar to what the Conservative party give you when you join.

Though according to my sources on some of the UK&#039;s leading fishing websites, it&#039;s not often you&#039;ll find EA officers (or Police officers either for that matter) going round checking licenses.... you&#039;ll see 2 or 3 of them going round Commercial coarse &amp; trout fisheries checking them, but other Anglers (mostly those who fish Rivers &amp; Canals) claim they haven&#039;t been checked for years (but do have their licenses on them).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Environment Agency is one to keep, as they bring in money from issueing the rod licenses required to fish in Freshwater in England &amp; Wales &#8211; about a million of the things a year, though they&#8217;re starting to get a bit pricey:<br />
2009/10 Coarse &amp; Non-Migratory Trout = £26 (not too bad)<br />
2009/10 Salmon, Sea Trout, Coarse &amp; Non-Migratory Trout = £70 a year (only cost £60 in 2002, £62 in 2004, £63.50 in 2005).<br />
<a href="http://www.environment-agency.gov.uk/homeandleisure/recreation/fishing/106684.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.environment-agency.gov.uk/homeandleisure/recreation/fishing/106684.aspx</a></p>
<p>At least this year they&#8217;ve FINALLY replaced the traditional paper licenses (which were getting a bit too big, even when folded) with a card like thing similar to what the Conservative party give you when you join.</p>
<p>Though according to my sources on some of the UK&#8217;s leading fishing websites, it&#8217;s not often you&#8217;ll find EA officers (or Police officers either for that matter) going round checking licenses&#8230;. you&#8217;ll see 2 or 3 of them going round Commercial coarse &amp; trout fisheries checking them, but other Anglers (mostly those who fish Rivers &amp; Canals) claim they haven&#8217;t been checked for years (but do have their licenses on them).</p>
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		<title>By: John Gifford</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/07/28/defra-the-home-of-the-quango-and-the-management-consultant/#comment-20112</link>
		<dc:creator>John Gifford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 19:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you sir on the Environment Agency point. There is a company that can supply an affordable solution for flooding at Pickering in North Yorkshire. The Local Mp John Greenway (Con.) has done his very best to try to get this flood protection that the town needs. The company has said it will provide on a not for profit basis, http:www.instantbarrageservices.co.uk (website have a look the whole story is there for all to see) But since 2004 the Environment agency have done nothing. Now they want to do mapping surveys and plant some trees to stop the flood water. The trees will of course take about 20 years to grow. This also assumes that they don&#039;t get washed away by floodwater in the meantime. Something must be done. I am now of the opinion that only a change of government will work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you sir on the Environment Agency point. There is a company that can supply an affordable solution for flooding at Pickering in North Yorkshire. The Local Mp John Greenway (Con.) has done his very best to try to get this flood protection that the town needs. The company has said it will provide on a not for profit basis, http:www.instantbarrageservices.co.uk (website have a look the whole story is there for all to see) But since 2004 the Environment agency have done nothing. Now they want to do mapping surveys and plant some trees to stop the flood water. The trees will of course take about 20 years to grow. This also assumes that they don&#8217;t get washed away by floodwater in the meantime. Something must be done. I am now of the opinion that only a change of government will work.</p>
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		<title>By: David Eyles</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/07/28/defra-the-home-of-the-quango-and-the-management-consultant/#comment-20111</link>
		<dc:creator>David Eyles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 18:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, exactly. The livestock industry relies to a considerable extent upon the output of the Vet. Laboratories to help us. When I have taken lamb corpses to Winchester to find out exactly what was going wrong, the professionalism of the service I have received was impressive. In one case a sample was sent from Winchester to Scotland to a specialist lab to isolate exactly which strain of the bacteria it was that was causing our lambing pneumonia. This was then matched against the spectrum in the vaccine that we were using.

Similarly, Animal Health as it is now called is seriously underfunded, with insuffient large animal vets to cope if there is an outbreak of something nasty. The 2001 FMD holocaust stretched the government vets to breaking point and beyond. It is now even worse, because they have even fewer professional staff who know what they are doing. My last visit from an official vet demonstrated that he too had spent far too long in the clutches of bureaucracy, for that is what he had become. He didn&#039;t know how to condition score my cattle, neither did know whether a minor skin condition was caused by mites or lice. Fortunately, my own vet knew what she was doing.

I really despair that so many good people have to spend their time covering their own arses, when in fact they should be getting doing the job that the taxpayer asks of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, exactly. The livestock industry relies to a considerable extent upon the output of the Vet. Laboratories to help us. When I have taken lamb corpses to Winchester to find out exactly what was going wrong, the professionalism of the service I have received was impressive. In one case a sample was sent from Winchester to Scotland to a specialist lab to isolate exactly which strain of the bacteria it was that was causing our lambing pneumonia. This was then matched against the spectrum in the vaccine that we were using.</p>
<p>Similarly, Animal Health as it is now called is seriously underfunded, with insuffient large animal vets to cope if there is an outbreak of something nasty. The 2001 FMD holocaust stretched the government vets to breaking point and beyond. It is now even worse, because they have even fewer professional staff who know what they are doing. My last visit from an official vet demonstrated that he too had spent far too long in the clutches of bureaucracy, for that is what he had become. He didn&#8217;t know how to condition score my cattle, neither did know whether a minor skin condition was caused by mites or lice. Fortunately, my own vet knew what she was doing.</p>
<p>I really despair that so many good people have to spend their time covering their own arses, when in fact they should be getting doing the job that the taxpayer asks of them.</p>
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		<title>By: Faustiesblog</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/07/28/defra-the-home-of-the-quango-and-the-management-consultant/#comment-20110</link>
		<dc:creator>Faustiesblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:14:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ditto, sad to say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ditto, sad to say.</p>
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		<title>By: Adrian Peirson</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/07/28/defra-the-home-of-the-quango-and-the-management-consultant/#comment-20109</link>
		<dc:creator>Adrian Peirson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Retired Naval commander Brian Gerrish speaks on Quangos, charities etc in this talk on common Purpose, very interesting, if not revealing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58Pvs-pgbic</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Retired Naval commander Brian Gerrish speaks on Quangos, charities etc in this talk on common Purpose, very interesting, if not revealing.<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58Pvs-pgbic" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58Pvs-pgbic</a></p>
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		<title>By: Chris H</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/07/28/defra-the-home-of-the-quango-and-the-management-consultant/#comment-20108</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 12:35:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Charity Commission&#039;s website makes me cringe. I&#039;m on there quite often, looking for info, because I help with one (a very small one, I might add). Tiny annual turnover. Yet we get browbeaten by the CC if we don&#039;t submit our accounts within a certain timeframe. Their email response-time is appalling and they don&#039;t read your queries properly in the first place because they don&#039;t answer the questions you originally asked. The fancy politics on it is virtually irrelevant to the day-to-day operations of a small concern.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Charity Commission&#8217;s website makes me cringe. I&#8217;m on there quite often, looking for info, because I help with one (a very small one, I might add). Tiny annual turnover. Yet we get browbeaten by the CC if we don&#8217;t submit our accounts within a certain timeframe. Their email response-time is appalling and they don&#8217;t read your queries properly in the first place because they don&#8217;t answer the questions you originally asked. The fancy politics on it is virtually irrelevant to the day-to-day operations of a small concern.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Collyer</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/07/28/defra-the-home-of-the-quango-and-the-management-consultant/#comment-20107</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Collyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 12:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about the Food Standards Agency? Given their recent report on chocolate bars http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/8173936.stm, needs some really severe pruning or abolition. Astonishingly, it is a &quot;non-ministerial department&quot;, i.e. it is not even responsible to any government minister!

Their website says the following independent committees, working groups and forums advise the Food Standards Agency: General Advisory Committee on Science, Social Science Research Committee, ACAF, Better Regulation Advisory Group, ACNFP, Stakeholder Meeting on Animal Feed Issues, ACMSF, COT, Committee on Carcinogenicity, Committee on Mutagenicity, Spongiform Encephalopathy Committee, Committee on Nutrition, Working Party on Food Contact Materials, Working Party on Food Additives, Advisory Committee on Pesticides, Pesticide Residues Committee, Veterinary Products Committee, FSA Expert Group on Testing of Milk for Antibiotic Residues, Veterinary Residues Committee, Consultative Group on Campylobacter and Salmonella in Chickens, Foodborne Disease Strategy Consultative Group, Enforcement Liaison Group, Advisory Body for the Delivery of Official Controls, Meat Hygiene Policy Forum, Red Tape Working Group, Enforcement Forum, Framework Agreement Sub Group, Food Incidents Task Force, Food Standards Sampling Co-ordination Working Group, Additives and Authenticity Methodology Working Group , Food and Drink Advertising and Promotion Forum, Nutrition Strategy Steering Group, Animal Feed Law Enforcement Liaison Group, Scottish Food Enforcement Liaison Committee, Independent panel on the controls on infant formula and follow-on formula and the UK-Wide Scores on the Doors Steering Group.

Almost forgot the Consumer Stakeholder Forum, which enables &quot;stakeholders&quot; (i.e. pressure groups, not the consumers themselves, obviously) to express opinions about the Agency&#039;s work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about the Food Standards Agency? Given their recent report on chocolate bars <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/8173936.stm" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/8173936.stm</a>, needs some really severe pruning or abolition. Astonishingly, it is a &#8220;non-ministerial department&#8221;, i.e. it is not even responsible to any government minister!</p>
<p>Their website says the following independent committees, working groups and forums advise the Food Standards Agency: General Advisory Committee on Science, Social Science Research Committee, ACAF, Better Regulation Advisory Group, ACNFP, Stakeholder Meeting on Animal Feed Issues, ACMSF, COT, Committee on Carcinogenicity, Committee on Mutagenicity, Spongiform Encephalopathy Committee, Committee on Nutrition, Working Party on Food Contact Materials, Working Party on Food Additives, Advisory Committee on Pesticides, Pesticide Residues Committee, Veterinary Products Committee, FSA Expert Group on Testing of Milk for Antibiotic Residues, Veterinary Residues Committee, Consultative Group on Campylobacter and Salmonella in Chickens, Foodborne Disease Strategy Consultative Group, Enforcement Liaison Group, Advisory Body for the Delivery of Official Controls, Meat Hygiene Policy Forum, Red Tape Working Group, Enforcement Forum, Framework Agreement Sub Group, Food Incidents Task Force, Food Standards Sampling Co-ordination Working Group, Additives and Authenticity Methodology Working Group , Food and Drink Advertising and Promotion Forum, Nutrition Strategy Steering Group, Animal Feed Law Enforcement Liaison Group, Scottish Food Enforcement Liaison Committee, Independent panel on the controls on infant formula and follow-on formula and the UK-Wide Scores on the Doors Steering Group.</p>
<p>Almost forgot the Consumer Stakeholder Forum, which enables &#8220;stakeholders&#8221; (i.e. pressure groups, not the consumers themselves, obviously) to express opinions about the Agency&#8217;s work.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris H</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/07/28/defra-the-home-of-the-quango-and-the-management-consultant/#comment-20106</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 12:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Animal health, Central Science Laboratory, Veterinary Laboratories Agency are mostly boffins which have been contaminated by too many admin and consultants. Their admin budgets should be slashed, but the boffins increased and their practical capabilities and capital in the form of laboratories, seriously enhanced.&quot;

Takes me back to when I worked for the old MAFF/ADAS set-up. The vet diagnostic labs were occupied by many keen enthusiastic staff, vets and technicians (including me), but were always being looked down on by administrators and being &quot;trimmed&quot; at various intervals for &quot;cost-efficiency&quot;. Invariably we used to lose good scientific staff around the country, to be replaced by pen-pushers or nothing at all. British agriculture deserves better. So much has changed since I left, I can&#039;t keep up with it all any more....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Animal health, Central Science Laboratory, Veterinary Laboratories Agency are mostly boffins which have been contaminated by too many admin and consultants. Their admin budgets should be slashed, but the boffins increased and their practical capabilities and capital in the form of laboratories, seriously enhanced.&#8221;</p>
<p>Takes me back to when I worked for the old MAFF/ADAS set-up. The vet diagnostic labs were occupied by many keen enthusiastic staff, vets and technicians (including me), but were always being looked down on by administrators and being &#8220;trimmed&#8221; at various intervals for &#8220;cost-efficiency&#8221;. Invariably we used to lose good scientific staff around the country, to be replaced by pen-pushers or nothing at all. British agriculture deserves better. So much has changed since I left, I can&#8217;t keep up with it all any more&#8230;.</p>
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