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		<title>By: no one</title>
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		<dc:creator>no one</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 16:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand

http://www.techmarketview.com/

have been briefed &quot;off the record&quot; by the most senior conservatives that moving jobs to india and using indian nationals here on inter company transfer visas working for (named companies-ed) etc will all be part of the &quot;cost cutting&quot; approach used in the public sector

If its true I would like to see it &quot;on the record&quot;

Personally I would like to see the widespread abuse of inter company transfer visas stopped, and some sense in these areas

Isnt Somerset County Council Conservative? Have they not outsourced much of their work to IBM? Are you sure absolutely none of this is being done using (foreign-ed) resources?

Reply: I know of no policy to ship loads of work out to India. Anyone running the UK public sector does from time to time offer outsource contracts to see if that is better and cheaper, and these can be open to overseas as well as to UK companies. As you contantly remind us, multinationals can also choose who to hire to fuflill their contracts. It&#039;s not a plot, or some secret policy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand</p>
<p><a href="http://www.techmarketview.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.techmarketview.com/</a></p>
<p>have been briefed &#8220;off the record&#8221; by the most senior conservatives that moving jobs to india and using indian nationals here on inter company transfer visas working for (named companies-ed) etc will all be part of the &#8220;cost cutting&#8221; approach used in the public sector</p>
<p>If its true I would like to see it &#8220;on the record&#8221;</p>
<p>Personally I would like to see the widespread abuse of inter company transfer visas stopped, and some sense in these areas</p>
<p>Isnt Somerset County Council Conservative? Have they not outsourced much of their work to IBM? Are you sure absolutely none of this is being done using (foreign-ed) resources?</p>
<p>Reply: I know of no policy to ship loads of work out to India. Anyone running the UK public sector does from time to time offer outsource contracts to see if that is better and cheaper, and these can be open to overseas as well as to UK companies. As you contantly remind us, multinationals can also choose who to hire to fuflill their contracts. It&#8217;s not a plot, or some secret policy.</p>
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		<title>By: David Oliver</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/07/30/top-heavy-education/#comment-19955</link>
		<dc:creator>David Oliver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 10:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would get rid of the GTC, that teachers pay £15 towards for giving them little back. That&#039;s £15 the taxpayer pays each teacher.

Basically OFSTED, TDA SSDA, QCA, LSC should all be scrapped and rolled into one little DFES ball that is the servant, not the master or inquisitor of schools and teachers.

Schools and teachers should left alone to continue educating young people could do a vastly better job left to their own creative and professional nounce; and collaborating between schools at the local LEA level.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would get rid of the GTC, that teachers pay £15 towards for giving them little back. That&#8217;s £15 the taxpayer pays each teacher.</p>
<p>Basically OFSTED, TDA SSDA, QCA, LSC should all be scrapped and rolled into one little DFES ball that is the servant, not the master or inquisitor of schools and teachers.</p>
<p>Schools and teachers should left alone to continue educating young people could do a vastly better job left to their own creative and professional nounce; and collaborating between schools at the local LEA level.</p>
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		<title>By: Man in a Shed</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/07/30/top-heavy-education/#comment-19954</link>
		<dc:creator>Man in a Shed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 10:25:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an unpaid Governor I have been horrified at my introduction to the public sector. I know many other people who have volunteered as governors from private sector backgrounds who have had similar views ( a few of them becoming Tory converts as a direct result ).

Mrs T reformed the general world of work and nationalised industries - the next Conservative government must do the same for the state.

Independent schools show directly how all the infrastructure isn&#039;t needed.

I think it would be good for each parent to know how much the education of their children was costing ( with LEA /Govt over heads prorated appropriately ) and business rates on the same basis as an independent school would face.

Once people see the cost of education, they would be a lot less relaxed about how its delivered.

Just look at the impact of the &quot;cost of MPs&quot; and the personal tax liability from Brown&#039;s borrowing binge of the political debate.

The left will fight like tigers to prevent this - but education is the left wing swamp that most needs draining.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an unpaid Governor I have been horrified at my introduction to the public sector. I know many other people who have volunteered as governors from private sector backgrounds who have had similar views ( a few of them becoming Tory converts as a direct result ).</p>
<p>Mrs T reformed the general world of work and nationalised industries &#8211; the next Conservative government must do the same for the state.</p>
<p>Independent schools show directly how all the infrastructure isn&#8217;t needed.</p>
<p>I think it would be good for each parent to know how much the education of their children was costing ( with LEA /Govt over heads prorated appropriately ) and business rates on the same basis as an independent school would face.</p>
<p>Once people see the cost of education, they would be a lot less relaxed about how its delivered.</p>
<p>Just look at the impact of the &#8220;cost of MPs&#8221; and the personal tax liability from Brown&#8217;s borrowing binge of the political debate.</p>
<p>The left will fight like tigers to prevent this &#8211; but education is the left wing swamp that most needs draining.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/07/30/top-heavy-education/#comment-19953</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 07:24:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Standards as defined by the league tables, needless to say.

Apart from the Primary School statistics being collected in a fashion that could be kindly described as cretinous they are gamed to a ridiculous extent.

I removed my son to private in Year 6 for precisely this reason ; I didn&#039;t want him to waste the whole year practicing for tests that have no benefit to him whatsoever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Standards as defined by the league tables, needless to say.</p>
<p>Apart from the Primary School statistics being collected in a fashion that could be kindly described as cretinous they are gamed to a ridiculous extent.</p>
<p>I removed my son to private in Year 6 for precisely this reason ; I didn&#8217;t want him to waste the whole year practicing for tests that have no benefit to him whatsoever.</p>
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		<title>By: james</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 22:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. GCSEs? I was talking about primary school education.

2. League tables might tell us little, but their introduction made PRIMARY schools much more concerned about their standards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. GCSEs? I was talking about primary school education.</p>
<p>2. League tables might tell us little, but their introduction made PRIMARY schools much more concerned about their standards.</p>
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		<title>By: Bazman</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 16:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lets cut the benefits in the form of tax free status to the people who can afford to send their children to expensive private schools who are after all so rich that they are proud of the amount of money they spend. The idea that the state as a whole gains anything from their crumbs is a joke. Tax them and use the money to improve state schools. They will pay anyway. Cutting your home help to four, your second homes to one and your holidays to three does not count as sacrifice.
Even better ban private schools and see how fast the state schools improve. The rich can then send their children abroad and maybe live abroad themselves. Bet they don&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lets cut the benefits in the form of tax free status to the people who can afford to send their children to expensive private schools who are after all so rich that they are proud of the amount of money they spend. The idea that the state as a whole gains anything from their crumbs is a joke. Tax them and use the money to improve state schools. They will pay anyway. Cutting your home help to four, your second homes to one and your holidays to three does not count as sacrifice.<br />
Even better ban private schools and see how fast the state schools improve. The rich can then send their children abroad and maybe live abroad themselves. Bet they don&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 13:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nope.

Standards held till about 1987, when the new GCSEs came in. Because these were trivially easy, A-Levels had to be watered down. I actually remember picking up the first post-GCSE syllabus and sample papers and wondering what I was going to teach for two years.

The &quot;marketisation&quot; of exam papers then dragged standards down and has been doing so ever since aided by the desire of the idiot minster of education of the day to spout tractor stats about exams.

You cannot have a market in exams because a &#039;good&#039; exam means different things to different people.

League tables tell us nothing we don&#039;t know already viz. which schools have a poor intake, and are gamed anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nope.</p>
<p>Standards held till about 1987, when the new GCSEs came in. Because these were trivially easy, A-Levels had to be watered down. I actually remember picking up the first post-GCSE syllabus and sample papers and wondering what I was going to teach for two years.</p>
<p>The &#8220;marketisation&#8221; of exam papers then dragged standards down and has been doing so ever since aided by the desire of the idiot minster of education of the day to spout tractor stats about exams.</p>
<p>You cannot have a market in exams because a &#8216;good&#8217; exam means different things to different people.</p>
<p>League tables tell us nothing we don&#8217;t know already viz. which schools have a poor intake, and are gamed anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Turner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 23:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If we are to give more choice to parents regarding which school would best suit their needs we must also give choice to a school regarding which pupils it accepts. I know this would lead to selection by academic ability but this route would improve education in general.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we are to give more choice to parents regarding which school would best suit their needs we must also give choice to a school regarding which pupils it accepts. I know this would lead to selection by academic ability but this route would improve education in general.</p>
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		<title>By: james</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 19:57:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear John

I have been in the education business for 30 years dealing with children at primary level.

In brief, here are the facts about standards.

Throughout the 80s, the standards fell and fell and fell as teachers were allowed to do as they pleased.

Then, in the very early 90&#039;s, the Tories introduced school league tables; and the standards stopped falling.

Since that time, the standards at primary level have more or less stayed the same; perhaps rising slightly.

However, given that middle class parents usually engage private tutors and/or tutor the children themselves, it seems likely that those primary children who do achieve high levels are doing so on the basis of work done outside school.

As such, it seems to me that it is very important that government does, indeed, continue to intervene in schools in order to ensure that the teachers do their jobs properly.

As an aside, I would also point out that boys are being PURPOSELY disadvantaged by those in the higher echelons of our educational system. They have a feminist mindset that dictates that anything that helps boys more so than girls is &#039;sexist&#039; - and must be thrown out - whereas anything that helps girls more so than boys is taken up with enthusiasm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear John</p>
<p>I have been in the education business for 30 years dealing with children at primary level.</p>
<p>In brief, here are the facts about standards.</p>
<p>Throughout the 80s, the standards fell and fell and fell as teachers were allowed to do as they pleased.</p>
<p>Then, in the very early 90&#8242;s, the Tories introduced school league tables; and the standards stopped falling.</p>
<p>Since that time, the standards at primary level have more or less stayed the same; perhaps rising slightly.</p>
<p>However, given that middle class parents usually engage private tutors and/or tutor the children themselves, it seems likely that those primary children who do achieve high levels are doing so on the basis of work done outside school.</p>
<p>As such, it seems to me that it is very important that government does, indeed, continue to intervene in schools in order to ensure that the teachers do their jobs properly.</p>
<p>As an aside, I would also point out that boys are being PURPOSELY disadvantaged by those in the higher echelons of our educational system. They have a feminist mindset that dictates that anything that helps boys more so than girls is &#8216;sexist&#8217; &#8211; and must be thrown out &#8211; whereas anything that helps girls more so than boys is taken up with enthusiasm.</p>
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		<title>By: thespecialone</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 19:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John

Your exposure of the expenditures in government departments shows that a socialist government just loves to waste taxpayers money.  It also proves that you can cut public spending without cutting frontline services.  I truly hope that your party can get that message over to the public in the run-up to the next election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John</p>
<p>Your exposure of the expenditures in government departments shows that a socialist government just loves to waste taxpayers money.  It also proves that you can cut public spending without cutting frontline services.  I truly hope that your party can get that message over to the public in the run-up to the next election.</p>
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