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		<title>By: Bazman</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/08/06/unreal-tv/#comment-20452</link>
		<dc:creator>Bazman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 09:16:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone see the TV programme on channel 4 last night called &#039;The Russians are coming&#039; in which Former champion skier and glamorous international property broker Dina Karpova saw a gap in the market - and promptly filled it. Her latest venture? She helps fellow super-rich Russians fast-track their children into England’s most prestigious public schools. Can&#039;t educate pork or buy class?
The working and not working class anthem Common People. Always thought Pulp&#039;s &#039;Weeds II The Origin Of The Species&#039; said it better.

This is the true story of the weeds: the origin of the species.
A story of cultivation, exploitation, civilization.
Found flowering on wasteland unnoticed, unofficial, accidental.
A cutting was taken but weeds do not thrive under hothouse conditions &amp; wilt when in competition with more exotic strains.
A charming naivety, very short flowering season;
no sooner has the first blooming begun than decay sets in.
Bring your camera, take photo of life on the margins.
Offer money in exchange for sex &amp; then get a taxi home.
The story has always been the same
A source of wonder due to their ability to thrive on poor quality soil offering very little nourishment
Drinking `Nurishment`.
But weeds must be kept under strict control or they will destroy everything in their path.
Growing wild, then harvested in their prime &amp; passed around at dinner parties.
Care for some weed?
So natural, so wild, so unrefined &amp; someone`s gonna make a fortune one day
If only they can market this stuff right.
Come on: do your dance.
Come on, do your funny little dance.
Germination. Plantation. Exploitation. Civilization.
A sensational buzz - zzzzzz.
Crop rotation. Genetic modification. The creation of expectation. Ultimate frustration.
This is the story of the weeds: the origin of the species.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone see the TV programme on channel 4 last night called &#8216;The Russians are coming&#8217; in which Former champion skier and glamorous international property broker Dina Karpova saw a gap in the market &#8211; and promptly filled it. Her latest venture? She helps fellow super-rich Russians fast-track their children into England’s most prestigious public schools. Can&#8217;t educate pork or buy class?<br />
The working and not working class anthem Common People. Always thought Pulp&#8217;s &#8216;Weeds II The Origin Of The Species&#8217; said it better.</p>
<p>This is the true story of the weeds: the origin of the species.<br />
A story of cultivation, exploitation, civilization.<br />
Found flowering on wasteland unnoticed, unofficial, accidental.<br />
A cutting was taken but weeds do not thrive under hothouse conditions &amp; wilt when in competition with more exotic strains.<br />
A charming naivety, very short flowering season;<br />
no sooner has the first blooming begun than decay sets in.<br />
Bring your camera, take photo of life on the margins.<br />
Offer money in exchange for sex &amp; then get a taxi home.<br />
The story has always been the same<br />
A source of wonder due to their ability to thrive on poor quality soil offering very little nourishment<br />
Drinking `Nurishment`.<br />
But weeds must be kept under strict control or they will destroy everything in their path.<br />
Growing wild, then harvested in their prime &amp; passed around at dinner parties.<br />
Care for some weed?<br />
So natural, so wild, so unrefined &amp; someone`s gonna make a fortune one day<br />
If only they can market this stuff right.<br />
Come on: do your dance.<br />
Come on, do your funny little dance.<br />
Germination. Plantation. Exploitation. Civilization.<br />
A sensational buzz &#8211; zzzzzz.<br />
Crop rotation. Genetic modification. The creation of expectation. Ultimate frustration.<br />
This is the story of the weeds: the origin of the species.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/08/06/unreal-tv/#comment-20451</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 20:53:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All the producers of this programme want is controversy and embarassmant for the mug who spends a week &quot;in poverty&quot;.  You were quite right to turn them down.

You could have quoted the &quot;Indie&quot; band Pulp (not that they are that &quot;Indie&quot; anymore) and their great song from 1997 (grim year):

She came from Greece she had a thirst for knowledge,
she studied sculpture at Saint Martin&#039;s College,
that&#039;s where I,
caught her eye.
She told me that her Dad was loaded,
I said &quot;In that case I&#039;ll have a rum and coca-cola.&quot;
She said &quot;Fine.&quot;
and in thirty seconds time she said,

&quot;I want to live like common people,
I want to do whatever common people do,
I want to sleep with common people,
I want to sleep with common people,
like you.&quot;

Well what else could I do -
I said &quot;I&#039;ll see what I can do.&quot;
I took her to a supermarket,
I don&#039;t know why but I had to start it somewhere,
so it started there.
I said pretend you&#039;ve got no money,
she just laughed and said,
&quot;Oh you&#039;re so funny.&quot;
I said &quot;yeah?
Well I can&#039;t see anyone else smiling in here.
Are you sure you want to live like common people,
you want to see whatever common people see,
you want to sleep with common people,
you want to sleep with common people,
like me.&quot;
But she didn&#039;t understand,
she just smiled and held my hand.
Rent a flat above a shop,
cut your hair and get a job.
Smoke some fags and play some pool,
pretend you never went to school.
But still you&#039;ll never get it right,
cos when you&#039;re laid in bed at night,
watching roaches climb the wall,
if you call your Dad he could stop it all.&quot;

The last line being your point - temporary shortage of cash is not the same as poverty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All the producers of this programme want is controversy and embarassmant for the mug who spends a week &#8220;in poverty&#8221;.  You were quite right to turn them down.</p>
<p>You could have quoted the &#8220;Indie&#8221; band Pulp (not that they are that &#8220;Indie&#8221; anymore) and their great song from 1997 (grim year):</p>
<p>She came from Greece she had a thirst for knowledge,<br />
she studied sculpture at Saint Martin&#8217;s College,<br />
that&#8217;s where I,<br />
caught her eye.<br />
She told me that her Dad was loaded,<br />
I said &#8220;In that case I&#8217;ll have a rum and coca-cola.&#8221;<br />
She said &#8220;Fine.&#8221;<br />
and in thirty seconds time she said,</p>
<p>&#8220;I want to live like common people,<br />
I want to do whatever common people do,<br />
I want to sleep with common people,<br />
I want to sleep with common people,<br />
like you.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well what else could I do -<br />
I said &#8220;I&#8217;ll see what I can do.&#8221;<br />
I took her to a supermarket,<br />
I don&#8217;t know why but I had to start it somewhere,<br />
so it started there.<br />
I said pretend you&#8217;ve got no money,<br />
she just laughed and said,<br />
&#8220;Oh you&#8217;re so funny.&#8221;<br />
I said &#8220;yeah?<br />
Well I can&#8217;t see anyone else smiling in here.<br />
Are you sure you want to live like common people,<br />
you want to see whatever common people see,<br />
you want to sleep with common people,<br />
you want to sleep with common people,<br />
like me.&#8221;<br />
But she didn&#8217;t understand,<br />
she just smiled and held my hand.<br />
Rent a flat above a shop,<br />
cut your hair and get a job.<br />
Smoke some fags and play some pool,<br />
pretend you never went to school.<br />
But still you&#8217;ll never get it right,<br />
cos when you&#8217;re laid in bed at night,<br />
watching roaches climb the wall,<br />
if you call your Dad he could stop it all.&#8221;</p>
<p>The last line being your point &#8211; temporary shortage of cash is not the same as poverty.</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart Fairney</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/08/06/unreal-tv/#comment-20450</link>
		<dc:creator>Stuart Fairney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 17:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Didn&#039;t Matthew Parris do something like this in the 1980&#039;s?

I&#039;m guessing that if you did &quot;live in poverty&quot; you probably wouldn&#039;t steal cars, take drugs, engage in any level of criminality or randomly impregnate local girls.  I&#039;d also bet you could get a job and be off the estate in quick time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn&#8217;t Matthew Parris do something like this in the 1980&#8242;s?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m guessing that if you did &#8220;live in poverty&#8221; you probably wouldn&#8217;t steal cars, take drugs, engage in any level of criminality or randomly impregnate local girls.  I&#8217;d also bet you could get a job and be off the estate in quick time.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/08/06/unreal-tv/#comment-20449</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 13:17:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Poor? Poverty?

I was born in 1952 on a council estate in a mining village in the North.  Nobody had much and considerably less than those on council estates today.  We were not &quot;poor&quot; nor did we live in &quot;poverty&quot; and nor are or do people in Britain today. There are lazy people who think everyone else owes them a living, and others too stupid to do anything to improve themselves - tough.

Poor is living in India or Africa not just with nothing but no prospects of being able to get anything no matter how smart, willing or hard working.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poor? Poverty?</p>
<p>I was born in 1952 on a council estate in a mining village in the North.  Nobody had much and considerably less than those on council estates today.  We were not &#8220;poor&#8221; nor did we live in &#8220;poverty&#8221; and nor are or do people in Britain today. There are lazy people who think everyone else owes them a living, and others too stupid to do anything to improve themselves &#8211; tough.</p>
<p>Poor is living in India or Africa not just with nothing but no prospects of being able to get anything no matter how smart, willing or hard working.</p>
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		<title>By: Number 6</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/08/06/unreal-tv/#comment-20448</link>
		<dc:creator>Number 6</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 08:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John, the way this country is going I think I am actually going to audition for Big Brother Celebrity Dancing on Ice or something along those lines - after all living in a TV version of reality is looking more and more sane than day to day life under this increasingly demented government.

As for explotation, at least the TV producers pretend they are not do so - Nu Labour make no such pretence for the middle and working classes whose money they extort on a daily basis whilst destroying our liberties and forcing social engineering on us at every opportunity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, the way this country is going I think I am actually going to audition for Big Brother Celebrity Dancing on Ice or something along those lines &#8211; after all living in a TV version of reality is looking more and more sane than day to day life under this increasingly demented government.</p>
<p>As for explotation, at least the TV producers pretend they are not do so &#8211; Nu Labour make no such pretence for the middle and working classes whose money they extort on a daily basis whilst destroying our liberties and forcing social engineering on us at every opportunity.</p>
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		<title>By: THE ESSEX BOYS</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/08/06/unreal-tv/#comment-20447</link>
		<dc:creator>THE ESSEX BOYS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 07:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We endorse Alan&#039;s comments above, a couple of us having been raised on the Debden Council Estate in the 50s. The nearest we saw to &#039;poverty&#039; was the little girl 2 houses away who every couple of weeks knocked on the door at 8am holding a tea cup asking if mum could borrow a cup of sugar!

JR has the bones of a much better reality show. Actually to help guide a small trader to improve his business would be streets ahead of Gerry Robinson&#039;s recent approach and strike a real chord with everyday folk.
Alternatively let&#039;s see Ed Balls sent into a Headmaster&#039;s office to help handle the incessant paperwork, Yvette Cooper into a Benefits claims office or Alistair Darling along to a small businessman ploughing through the inches-thick tax regulations!
A clock should be shown on the screen tracking the time to taken to get to grips before the participant summons his ministerial car and drives off in a complete paddy!
Great TV eh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We endorse Alan&#8217;s comments above, a couple of us having been raised on the Debden Council Estate in the 50s. The nearest we saw to &#8216;poverty&#8217; was the little girl 2 houses away who every couple of weeks knocked on the door at 8am holding a tea cup asking if mum could borrow a cup of sugar!</p>
<p>JR has the bones of a much better reality show. Actually to help guide a small trader to improve his business would be streets ahead of Gerry Robinson&#8217;s recent approach and strike a real chord with everyday folk.<br />
Alternatively let&#8217;s see Ed Balls sent into a Headmaster&#8217;s office to help handle the incessant paperwork, Yvette Cooper into a Benefits claims office or Alistair Darling along to a small businessman ploughing through the inches-thick tax regulations!<br />
A clock should be shown on the screen tracking the time to taken to get to grips before the participant summons his ministerial car and drives off in a complete paddy!<br />
Great TV eh?</p>
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		<title>By: StevenL</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/08/06/unreal-tv/#comment-20446</link>
		<dc:creator>StevenL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 00:52:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s never &#039;reality&#039; is it?  I rent a room in a shared house in a working class area, quite a few of the people around here either don&#039;t earn all that much or claim benefits.  There&#039;s not much whingeing about &#039;poverty&#039; though.  In fact no one talks about politics full stop (I try not to other than on the internet - it puts people off you).

There&#039;s plenty of barbeques, beer, wine, abit of fishing and a load of politically incorrect banter that the BBC would never televise, you know - reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s never &#8216;reality&#8217; is it?  I rent a room in a shared house in a working class area, quite a few of the people around here either don&#8217;t earn all that much or claim benefits.  There&#8217;s not much whingeing about &#8216;poverty&#8217; though.  In fact no one talks about politics full stop (I try not to other than on the internet &#8211; it puts people off you).</p>
<p>There&#8217;s plenty of barbeques, beer, wine, abit of fishing and a load of politically incorrect banter that the BBC would never televise, you know &#8211; reality.</p>
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		<title>By: John Redwood senses something fishy going on&#160;</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/08/06/unreal-tv/#comment-20445</link>
		<dc:creator>John Redwood senses something fishy going on&#160;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 20:39:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] writes about the invitation on his blog. He also reveals that he once seriously considered taking part in one of these shows. Unfortunately [...] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] writes about the invitation on his blog. He also reveals that he once seriously considered taking part in one of these shows. Unfortunately [...] </p>
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		<title>By: Adrian Peirson</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/08/06/unreal-tv/#comment-20444</link>
		<dc:creator>Adrian Peirson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 17:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t Blame you Mr Redwood, they would have set you up for a fall in some way.

TV in Britain today is not to inform, or to build or educate, it&#039;s used to destroy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFx7lSI8srg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t Blame you Mr Redwood, they would have set you up for a fall in some way.</p>
<p>TV in Britain today is not to inform, or to build or educate, it&#8217;s used to destroy.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFx7lSI8srg" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFx7lSI8srg</a></p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/08/06/unreal-tv/#comment-20443</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 17:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quite right
If you’ve experienced a degree of poverty, then you wouldn’t learn much from such an exercise.
Its been done already by Matthew Parris.

Suggest to the programme makers that you haven’t experienced extreme wealth and suggest that you take the reality show onto a billionaire’s yacht, cruising the Cote d’ Azur for a month.
You can come back and say how disgusted you were and push for the return of Investment income surcharge.

That sounds a lot more fun to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quite right<br />
If you’ve experienced a degree of poverty, then you wouldn’t learn much from such an exercise.<br />
Its been done already by Matthew Parris.</p>
<p>Suggest to the programme makers that you haven’t experienced extreme wealth and suggest that you take the reality show onto a billionaire’s yacht, cruising the Cote d’ Azur for a month.<br />
You can come back and say how disgusted you were and push for the return of Investment income surcharge.</p>
<p>That sounds a lot more fun to me.</p>
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