The website Facts4eu which has some good material has run a piece adapted from this website today. It can be seen on <a href= ” https://facts4eu.org/news/2019 june redwood on brexit opportunities”>
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The website Facts4eu which has some good material has run a piece adapted from this website today. It can be seen on <a href= ” https://facts4eu.org/news/2019 june redwood on brexit opportunities”>
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June 1, 2019
We published a revised version of Sir John’s article because these messages need to reach as wide an audience as possible.
The direct link to the article is here:
We would like to thank JR for his permission to do this.
June 1, 2019
Will you attend court if a pro-EU British judge demands your presence?
When we do elect a Eurosceptic as Tory leader he needs to do one simple thing. Take revenge and purge the entire Europhile client state built up under Blair
No longer can we tolerate MPs being dragged into court for expressing an opinion.
It is intolerable and deeply troubling to see judges acting with political intent and without impartiality. The arrogance is disturbing and deeply sinister. It suggests they feel they can act this way with impunity. I find that sinister
This country needs a dose of salts and fast
June 1, 2019
Not so easy to do. There are ever where in the legal profession, politicians, civil servants, the BBC, academia, the Lords is stuffed with pro EU, lefties and misguided climate alarmists.
âMANY-DEALS BREXITâ CAN MAKE US BETTER OFF
It can indeed so long as we avoid Corbyn and Labour. All that is needed is a PM with some real vision.
June 1, 2019
Just listened to Rory Steward on the spectator Coffee House Shots podcasts. Going on about a massive government house building programme, millions for hearing aid research because his dad had difficulties in old age.
The man is clearly a another deluded socialist – almost more so than T May and P Hammond. Why is the Tory party stuffed with so many deluded ‘government knows best’, magic money tree lefties who think governments should run almost everything.
This despite the endless incompetence they exhibit whenever they do so.
June 1, 2019
Dominic
” Take revenge and purge the entire Europhile client state built up under Blair”
Purge? That sounds like something out of the old Soviet Union under Stalin. A good deal more sinister than anything the pro EU supporters were guilty of according to you.
June 1, 2019
Your lot started it.
June 1, 2019
MH
Whatever it takes to clear out the rot. If that means purges, then that is what must be done.
Nothing like a good old fashioned reckoning.
June 1, 2019
Purge. Betrayal. Collaborator. Traitor.
The language of extreme regimes (both left and right) everywhere.
Also the language of the Brexiteers.
June 2, 2019
Andy
So ?
It’s people like yourself who cause it. But that’s what liberal sissies do…..go around ‘causing’ things.
June 2, 2019
But clearly fair and accurate of May’s government.
June 1, 2019
Dominic
Yes it’s as disturbing as it is disgusting.
Who’d have thought this country would emulate despotic third world dictatorships by having a bent judiciary.
Blair has a lot to answer for.
June 1, 2019
Dominic
Spot on.
I previously reply to your post but it appears our host got all ‘pusillanimous’ about it.
June 2, 2019
âpusillanimousâ? I donât think so. Sir John has a long career as Government advisor, MP, minister behind him. He might still have further to go. Why should he let a little nobody like you write any deeply offensive comment on his site with the prospect that it could be retained against him in the future? Today (Sunday 2) Sir John accepts that Nigel Farage should be involved in future Brexit negotiations/planning. What more do you want? Do you think a bit before writing? Or are you 2.2% Tommy Robinson?
June 1, 2019
Off-topic, one Mike Oldham has this excellent lead letter in the Telegraph today:
“Clearly neither Carolyn Fairbairn, the director-general of the Confederation of British Industry, nor, it would seem, any other members of the CBI (which wants the next Prime Minister to take the option of a no-deal Brexit off the table) have ever negotiated a deal with a second-hand car salesman. How could one possibly make a deal without the option to walk away?”
In any case the UK cannot unilaterally “get no deal off the table”, as Philip Hammond put it; that could only ever be done through a joint decision of the UK and the EU, and Article 50 TEU would not allow the EU to agree to it be taken off the table:
http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2019/05/30/leadership-candidates-who-say-they-will-renegotiate-the-withdrawal-agreement-need-to-tell-us-why-they-think-the-eu-will-want-to/#comment-1025093
http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2019/05/30/leadership-candidates-who-say-they-will-renegotiate-the-withdrawal-agreement-need-to-tell-us-why-they-think-the-eu-will-want-to/#comment-1025099
June 2, 2019
Donald Trump is expressing opinions about Theresa May’s weak stance on EU negotiations. Perhaps he would enjoy acting as our EU Negotiator-in-Chief, having a strong US trade option for us within his grasp.
He could rapidly sort out most of the nonsense, with our deciding on terms at arms length. It would certainly shake up the EU’s intransigence.
June 1, 2019
Is this ‘can’t get the link to work’, or more ‘unable to directly link because of Article15&17’? (I am joking, but only just…)
June 1, 2019
I had not realised, as you say below, that the UK can in fact conduct FTA negotiations with non-EU countries while a member of the EU (contrary to what Mrs May has asserted). If so this should be a major question for new PM candidates: how quickly and forcefully will they get discussions going on joining TPP, an Australia-NZ deal, a US deal and of course rolling over or improving existing EU deals.
We won’t get these done by Oct 31, but if they are well under way it will be a huge confidence boost if the Country does need to steel itself for the (hop over the) cliff edge. Confidence over the cliff edge hop might of course encourage a rational approach in the EU.
June 1, 2019
As I understand it we don’t need to rush to get it done by 31st October, but merely to get the EU to agree to start FTA talks (as they already offered MrsMay last year but she didn’t want to do it, being at heart a Remainer). Then we can tell the WTO that we are enacting Article 24 which allows trading on current arrangements for 2 – 10 years whilst we sort it out finally. It should not take long if the EU act in good faith which they are keen on us doing, as we already have everything in place. This is the one positive of being a member for 40 odd years. There will be no cliff edge either for us or the EU. All we need is a resolute PM to get it done or walk away with WTO terms (that which Remainers call No Deal)
June 1, 2019
You have to agree to mrs mays deal. If not, the EU will say no to any talks and Art 24 does not apply.
June 2, 2019
Wrong
June 1, 2019
Opposing No Deal is just code for “We are blocking Brexit.”
This really should be spelled out to people, again and again.
June 2, 2019
Indeed.
June 1, 2019
It had been established very early on in the process that we could negotiate FTAs with non-EU countries whilst still a member, the only stricture was that we could not sign/put them into effect while still a member. The T May was the Remainer argument (incorrect) during the referendum campaign… https://www.matrixlaw.co.uk/resource/possible-united-kingdom-negotiate-trade-agreement-eu-ftas-third-countries-new-legal-status-within-wto-part-eu/
zorro
June 1, 2019
No country will waste time talking to the UK until its postBrexit relationship to the EU is settled. Stay in the singlemarket and we are attractive. Leave with no deal, nobody will waste time talking to the lonely Brits
June 1, 2019
Iâd have thought itâs the other way round. Either we are in the EU orbit in which case the flexibility to agree much will be very limited, or weâre outside it – se 165 or so other âlonelyâ countries – in which case we would be worth talking to.
June 2, 2019
That can already be seen not to be true Ken, because numerous nations are already “talking to us” about post EU trade relationships.
June 2, 2019
Including, of course, the world’s biggest one, the USA, so Ken what you said is just what the LibDims say to Brexit.
June 1, 2019
Richard1
” an Australia-NZ deal”
I remember both these countries being bitterly offended when we ditched them virtually overnight after finally being admitted to the EU bloc in 1973
Until then we were the biggest importers of Australian frozen lamb and New Zealand butter enjoyed a virtual monopoly here. Both countries eventually turned to the East to establish new markets for their products.
Do you really think that they will now drop everything in favour of trade deals with us? I doubt it.
June 2, 2019
Margaret, there have already been meetings and positive statements from Australia and New Zealand for a renewed improved trading relationship after we leave the EU.
June 2, 2019
MH
I agree in principle with you say. However it has been my experience that businesses tend not to turn down business.
June 2, 2019
Margaret, why do Remainers see only ‘all or nothing’? They have the opinion that all trade with from EU will stop and we will stop exporting to the EU. Total nonsense, deals are in addition to what we currently do, not instead of. That is how we can become more prosperous, not like you and Fact Free Andy say about us being poorer. Just a lack of imagination on the part of Remainers who are terrified of standing on our own feet, which we did for a thousand years before the EU. Be realistic and stop this ridiculous stance.
June 2, 2019
Graham
” standing on our own feet, which we did for a thousand years before the EU”
Didn’t know the EU were that old -:)
June 2, 2019
As usual, no reply, just being obtuse. Must try harder. A fact or two would be welcome instead of the usual Remainer nonsense.
June 1, 2019
https://facts4eu.org/news/2019_june_redwood_on_brexit_opportunities
That should work, underscores are important in URLs…!
Reply Many thanks for the help
June 1, 2019
You write there are already deals on customs cooperation etc. That is a bare faced lie. There are no deals at all, nor will there be any until the UK signs the WA. The Commission has issued notice explaining the action the EU will take unilaterally in the event of a no deal Brexit, but the UK has no say at all in that process, nor are the UKâs interests taken into account.
June 1, 2019
There is absolutely no need to sign the WA. If we did, the EU mafia would have all that they required, prior to any trade talks. A clean break exit would force them to come to the table, due to the large trade imbalance between the EU27 and the UK. There may be political bluster from the EU mafia at first but financial reality would ultimately bite them hard. Remember that, freed from EU mafia shackles, the UK will be able to go anywhere in the rest of the world to find new markets. However, the EU27 do not have the freedom to do the same. The EU mafia decides this for them, whilst favouring certain member states.
June 1, 2019
Those German carmakers are gonna come to our rescue, eh?
June 1, 2019
Denny
They’d be mighty p****d with the EU commission, who they will see as having cost them serious money.
June 1, 2019
Now who should we believe when it comes to bare faced lies .. the doom merchants of the europhiles who have proven to be wrong, big style, or John Redwood who can provide the facts. The eu will bend when it has no choice, we should offer a FTA and its up to the eurocracy to decide to accept it or accept no deal no money, and then we wait for their businesses to kick off to protect one of their major export markets.
June 2, 2019
Woody
Protect one of their major export markets?
They employ thousands of workers in this country and without them we wouldn’t have a car industry left at all unless you mean Aston Martin and Del Trotter’s Reliant Robin.
June 2, 2019
You fail to understand Margaret that the automotive industry is a world wide industry.
Your constant sneering about who owns what in this country, is a sad reflection on your attitude towards the UK’s very successful growing automotive engineering industry, which employs hundreds of thousands of people, pays many hundreds of millions in taxes and invests billions here in the UK.
PS
Reliant closed decades ago.
June 1, 2019
Just got back from touring the Normandy Beaches, again. If you get chance, visit the Airborne Museum at Sainte Mere Eglise at least. I read here that fantasy Brexit is alive and well. Anyway Gareth, http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-19-2052_en.htm confirms your thoughts; for instance.
“… should a âno-deal’ scenario occur, the UK would be expected to address three main separation issues as a precondition before the EU would consider embarking on discussions about the future relationship. These are: (1) protecting and upholding the rights of citizens who have used their right to free movement before Brexit, (2) honouring the financial obligations the UK has made as a Member State and (3) preserving the letter and spirit of the Good Friday Agreement and peace on the island of Ireland, as well as the integrity of the internal market.”
BTW. You have to have “a deal” before parties to that deal can use GATT Art 24 protection against MFN challenges. No deal, no GATT 24; got it. The EU doesn’t do “interim agreements” anymore; particularly not for large complex FTA agreements.
June 1, 2019
Brilliant skewering of the mad argument that if we leave with no deal, the EU will agree to a deal
June 1, 2019
The Withdrawal Agreement is not a deal.
The trade negotiations will start after we leave.
June 1, 2019
Acorn
1) No problem with that.
2) Legal advice is that we owe the EU nothing.
3) Nothing to do with them, they should keep their nose out.
June 2, 2019
1. The UK has already said it will uphold the status of EU citizens living and working here in the UK.
2. The UK has already said it will honour its obligations and pay what is legally owed.
3 The UK has said it will not build a hard border and sp has the Republic of Ireland.
It is unlikely the EU will build a wall.
So a solution will be found to track trusted traders who traverse the border with bulk goods regularly just as it happens between other countries around the world.
4. I realise you look for trade obstacles acorn but it is unlikely the EU will blockade trade by its members into the UK.
Much is made of the need for a trade deal usually by people who have never imported or exported in their lives.
Japan has only just signed a trade deal but traded for decades in Europe and the UK.
And Denny
The Withdrawal Agreement is not a deal.
June 2, 2019
Trade will go on as now, nobody will blockade anything, consumer prices will change and quantities available will adjust. The exchange value of the currency will ultimately decide how much the UK, with its high import demand, can afford.
The withdrawal agreement, if “ratified” (UN legal term), would be a legally binding treaty, the political declaration is a legally non-binding document; however, despite their different legal nature, they are considered as a package for the purpose of the approval process in both the EU and the UK.
June 2, 2019
They can consider whatever they like acorn.
But if the next PM will not bring the dreadful Withdrawal Agreement back to Parliament then it is not going to gain approval.
So we will leave in October as the law states.
PS a motion does not trump a law.
June 3, 2019
Edward…..The forced out PM ‘agreed’ all that, we merely point out the fact she acted without proper authority. She was never a dictator but tried hard to get away with it.
June 1, 2019
Gareth Jones
“There are no deals at all”
That’s a bare faced lie.
June 1, 2019
Not so easy to do. There are ever where in the legal profession, politicians, civil servants, the BBC, academia, the Lords is stuffed with pro EU, lefties and misguided climate alarmists.
âMANY-DEALS BREXITâ CAN MAKE US BETTER OFF
It can indeed so long as we avoid Corbyn and Labour. All that is needed is a PM with some real vision.
June 1, 2019
I see the red remainers have produced a contra web site factsforeu. Seems very pro eu and surprise surprise very left.
June 1, 2019
Woody
Interesting, I wonder if they have a blog /forum.
June 1, 2019
Why not inflict the Brexit tax only on those who voted for it, or rather their grandchildren ?
June 1, 2019
Providing remainers are denied all the monetary benefits of our economic growth after we leave the EU
June 1, 2019
Deal. See that there is no Brexit boost, we win.
June 2, 2019
Wrong Andy.
Even the very pessimistic 15 year guess into the future by the Treasury showed continued growth in the UK economy.
June 2, 2019
Edward2
You obviously included the car industry in your estimates.
A quick check revealed:
More than 1.6 million cars were produced here in the first 11 months of 2016
Almost four fifths (78%) was exported
UK car manufacturing output in November 2016 was higher than at any time since 1999
More than half of exports were to the European Union
More than 2 million engines were produced in the UK
More than 70 different models are built in the UK by more than 30 manufacturers.
==
And just 3 are British owned:
Morgan Motor Company Ltd (Aero 8, Plus 8, Roadster, Plus 4, 4/4, 3 wheeler)
Caterham Cars Ltd (Seven)
Mclaren Automotive
==
Do you REALLY believe the others will stay here if conditions don’t suit them?
Especially after Scotland and Ireland have gone and just a rump England is left?
Dream on.
June 2, 2019
Red herring nonsense by you Margaret.
The EU has already enticed some UK car companies to relocate out of the EU so these things happen whilst we are in the EU.
The Treasury report looking at 15 years prospects after we leave the EU predicted continual growth.
Fact.
You keep saying “rump England”
Which is as ridiculous as it is factually wrong
First you have missed Wales off secondly England has over 80% of the population and GDP and tax revenues.
Freed from bailing out Scotland and N Ireland we would be even better off.
What a prospect.
Now I really am dreaming on.
June 3, 2019
margaret H…….what!
do check things out.
McLaren is essentially owned by Arab major shareholdings ( Mansour Ojjeh).
Investindustrial (Italian) has announced the acquisition of a majority stake .
Caterham is owned by Tony Fernandes, Kamarudin Meranun and SM Nasarudin.
Morgan – Investindustrial has announced the acquisition of a majority stake.
June 1, 2019
On that basis, shouldn’t the UK’s financial contributions to the EU be made solely by the ‘remainers?
June 1, 2019
Yup.
June 1, 2019
So the benefits from leaving are to be directed solely to the leave supporters .. no, we are more generous in our success … it can be shared by all of the uk, even Scotland.
June 1, 2019
The D-Day commemorations are just around the corner. The lives of thousands of Allied soldiers laid down to protect the very thing people like you find offensive, democracy
More EU equals less British democracy equals the dilution of that one apolitical mechanism the British voter possesses to assert control over the actions of a political class.
Your rejection of the EU referendum result is a rejection of all that we are and all that Allied soldiers fought and died for
A heavy dose of soul searching is your order of the day
June 2, 2019
@Dominic; Disgusting comment.
Many a Socialist (and indeed Communist) from the UK died on those D-Day beaches, and battles elsewhere before and after, so that people including you have the freedom to express your political beliefs without fear.
June 2, 2019
Dominic
I think you revealed more about yourself and what you profess to stand for than you intended in that posting.
It is definitely not what I believe WW2 was all about. You should be ashamed of yourself.
June 1, 2019
“Have you stopped beating your wife?”
If you read the article, you can see the plan for lower taxes.
Perhaps you’d prefer to complain about that?
June 1, 2019
Then you’d get into a debate over who gets the benefits eg of saving ÂŁ12bn a year, being out idiocies like the CAP and CFP, the boost to growth from new FTAs etc.
June 1, 2019
Weaker and weaker. Desperation sets in.
I’d settle for a tax rebate from the Brexit Bonus only for those who voted ‘Leave’. If such a thing was on offer the country would suddenly be 100 per cent Leavers.
June 1, 2019
Perhaps we should do likewise to Remain enthusiasts. Remember, there wouldn’t even be a rebate in the next 7 year EU budget.
June 1, 2019
Newmania
What a rather stupid thing to suggest.
June 1, 2019
Newmania
What as opposed to grandchildren paying tax to keep EU unemployed in dole money ? Or to fund the EU army your swore wasn’t going to happen, or maybe to make up for the estimated ÂŁ40 billion in corporate taxes we were ordered to repay to UK based multinationals
June 1, 2019
Newmania
You lost the vote a couple of weeks back didn’t you hear ?
June 1, 2019
‘TUC boss Frances OâGrady has been added to the board of the Bank of England in a series of appointments confirmed by the Chancellor, Philip Hammond.’
Now this is why Hammond’s become a poison at the Treasury and this action is why the entire Tory party needs purging of the virus that is Europhilia
To make this appointment at this time is indicative of a politician laying traps for the future Tory leader
Whoever becomes the next leader they have to adopt a strategy that utterly wipes away the influence of pro-EU placemen including O’Grady
Hammond’s behaviour is deeply destructive
June 1, 2019
Dominic
“…OâGrady has been added to the board of the Bank of England”
Now there’s a fine old English sounding name.
June 2, 2019
@Steve; Duh?! The surname O’Grady is no less native to Britain than the name Farage is, the latter most likely originating from French Huguenots…
June 1, 2019
@Newmania; You’re assuming, like all good Remainers are told to, that Brexit will cause tax increases, for a start with a WTO exit VAT can be cut by at least 5% across the board, not just on the often mentioned utilities bills and sanitary products…
But you do have a point, perhaps your logic should be used for green taxes, only those who worry about CO2 emissions (or what ever) should pay ‘Green’ taxes?!
June 1, 2019
If any one doubts what bad shape the Conservative party is in, they should know that the candidate in Peterborough is sending out e-mails asking people to canvass for him, and he says:
“This by-election will be close.
And it can only be won by me â or by Jeremy Corbynâs candidate.
We just canât afford to let his candidate sneak through. ”
Oddschecker make Brexit 5/1 ON to win, Labour 4/1, and the Conservatives 25/1.
May said “people are calling us the “nasty” party”… I wonder if “nasty [but competent]” is worse than “pathetic”, “incompetent”, “stupid”, or simply laughable?
June 1, 2019
I’ve just read Javids take on the WA. He says if we can get a time limit on the backstop then it will be acceptable.
Barnier is talking about a 4 year period to solve the Irish border non problem using new technology and if that fails having a 5 to 7 year limit to the backstop.
Do you really think you will ever win another election if in 2022 we are still in a going nowhere transition period with a possible 8 more years of TP and backstop. i.e 14 years after the referendum we are still subject to 100% EU law and payments having possibly given away fishing rights, FoM and Gibraltar. The mans a total idiot.
June 1, 2019
All Conservatives should be extremely worried for the future of their party.
They are in the last chance saloon and simply have to deliver Brexit on the 31st October.
The problem is that more than half the Parliamentary party are either so implacably opposed to Brexit that they don’t care, or simply don’t understand the depth of feeling in the Country.
If anyone can successfully establish a new political party at Westminster under our First Past The Post System it’s Nigel Farage. His choice of Mike Greene as the Brexit Party candidate for the Peterborough seat was a typical Farage master stroke.
Let’s hope Mr Greene wins the seat but whether or not that has the slightest impact on Conservative Remainer MPs and the leadership contest is very much open to doubt.
If they succeed in keeping Dominic Raab, Esther McVey and Boris off the final ballot paper will be the last straw.
June 1, 2019
You need a closing slash at the end of the link, e.g. opportunitiesâ/>
June 1, 2019
Can anyone clarify for me what the net amount we send to the EU annually. I believe our gross contribution is calculated from our GNI and VAT reciepts. But does it include the approx ÂŁ3+ billion we collect in tariffs and send 80% of to the EU?
June 1, 2019
In view of the fact that Mr Javid deserves a fair crack at being PM we should insist that all campaigning for PM should take place in Dover where he is shackled and some say in stocks at his job well done.
PS I propose we form a Navy
June 1, 2019
Ignore Andy.
Uncontrolled borders.
Knife crime.
These doom your party.
June 2, 2019
Anonymous
We are not members of Schengen
We have full control of our own borders
And we have the highest cases of knife crime/murder in the EU.
I wonder why?
June 3, 2019
Come off it margaret we do not have full control of our borders.
Why do you say such nonsense?
June 2, 2019
Sir John refurbishment of derelict and shops that have been empty for more than 2 years attracts VAT (unlike provisions in the housing sector), unless you âopt the property into taxâ. By doing so for at least 20 years you have to charge VAT on the rent. For start ups and small businesses on the High Street, this is a killer, as is the luxury rate of VAT on repairing roofs etc for landlords.