What an amazing game of cricket! It was a roller coaster ride for players and fans, with great drama down to the last ball of the final super over. England showed great resource and determination against a brilliant New Zealand team who were so close to victory themselves.
Congratulations to an England team who have provided so much good entertainment over the last four years making their way to become world champions.
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July 15, 2019
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July 15, 2019
Indeed but no use of the word travesty when Jason Roy was plainly out first ball or one of New Zealandâs key batsman was sawn off by the same umpire or England getting four from a fielding deflection off Ben Stokes body.
A metaphor for how Politicians only look at things with âone eyeâ
Reply The deflection was from the bat and the batsman could mot see the ball being thrown at him, so the four was correct within the laws of cricket. NZ could have appealed the first ball possible out.
July 15, 2019
They did appeal that decision – the result was umpire’s call because ball tracking showed less that 50% of the ball hitting less that 50% of the stump. Definitely a sickener for the Kiwis, but correct by the laws of the game.
Reply Yes, sorry I was thinking of a different ball. As you say it was the rules. We should not assume that ball tracking by a computer is completely accurate, it is only a prediction to help judgement.
July 15, 2019
Well named Nigl, why not get in touch with Gina Miller and her legal team and see if you can get the result overturned? In any case it was so close that it should not really be treated as a victory for England, should it, obviously there should be some kind of compromise making England and New Zealand joint winners. True, that may not be in line with what everybody agreed before the start of the competition, but obviously in a democracy people should be allowed to change their minds on the rules, even if retrospectively, and even if only because they had lost.
July 15, 2019
What a silly reply, you need to get out more. No idea where Gina Miller comes into it, I guess she has got under your skin.
You have completely missed the point of my blog. No where did I say the result shouldnât stand and neither did the Kiwis.
July 16, 2019
If mine was a silly reply it was to a silly comment.
July 15, 2019
Also, if the ball had not reached the boundary, the batsmen would not have run more than the ‘two’ they had already secured, thus observing the unwritten sportsmanship rule that cricketers adhere to, when a batsman inadvertently interferes with the ball. Once the ball had crossed the boundary there was no other option for the umpire, but to award 4 overthrows plus the 2 already run, which made a total of 6 runs from that ball. Unfortunate, but there we are – luck, or rub of the green, whatever you like to call it, but it was not deliberate.
July 15, 2019
Yesterday provided an overabundance of choice in top level sporting events. Apart from the cricket with its amazing climax, Wimbledon offered a similarly gripping men’s final which lasted its maximum length under the rules until the final tie break. Silverstone offered spectacular contests and overtaking in the British Grand Prix. And we had the latest stage of the Tour de France on which ITV4 offer informed commentary on the several races within the race and the organisers provide great aerial footage of the French countryside. I must confess I was. a channel hopper but managed to catch the end of all four.
July 15, 2019
England deserve all the plaudits for their achievement and as a country we need to recognise and celebrate the enormity of Lewis Hamilton’s success in his rise from a modest background to one of F1’s greatest drivers who is odds on to win his sixth World Championship. He is undoubtedly a fantastic role model and an example of the value of supportive and loving parents. I believe he will continue to smash F1 records and become the greatest F1 driver of all time.
July 16, 2019
Easy to become the best driver of all time with a car that has for some years been the fastest over the course of a race by a country mile, and with a team mate who isn’t employed to beat you to the chequered flag. Formula One has been reduced to a farcical advertisement for a company that is prepared consistently, year in year out, to outspend all the rest, Mercedes. The size of the Merc team is, a ludicrous 1,500 personnel, twice the size of its nearest rivals and every one of them is there to squeeze the last drop of performance from every part of the car and team possible. Money talks. The formula which mandates that racing cars must be loaded with entirely unnecessary batteries and computer systems and electric motors and energy recovery systems adds nothing to the spectacle because all those things are hidden. It does of course delight the politicians by paying homage to the climate change nonsense. But it means that every team has to spend hundreds of millions every year just to even make up the numbers while reducing races to boringly predictable processions designed to glorify Mercedes Benz. That is frankly ridiculous and nothing to do with sport. And all that unwonted complexity means big spending will always be the key to getting to the finish first. Formula One could have capped expenditures and team size years ago when it was obvious it had to be done in order to prevent things getting out of hand. They didn’t bite the bullet then and this mess is the inevitable result. Funnily enough although the glory goes to Merc the engineering is all British.
July 15, 2019
A shame that Moggy had to make it a Brexit thing in a way; but he did. Nearly half the England squad were born to migrants. Neither can you say .. we only dislike Europeans, we are dead keen on Barbadian bowlers ..(or indeed footballers ) …really ? Have a look at the comments made on any pro Brexit web site and wake up.
The referendum did everything it could to inflame and profit by generalised anti-immigrant feeling . Where is the flood of Syrians about to crash on our shores by the way ?
This was a sweet and beautiful victory for young international diverse talented England, the opposite of Brexit and everything , that despite the misery of our position today ; gives me hope.
July 15, 2019
What a strange comment Newmania.
England’s successful cricket team is international and diverse, as you correctly say.
Brexit is about the UK becoming international and diverse instead of being focussed on just Europe.
July 15, 2019
Rees-Mogg is a fool. He should not be seen as representative of Brexiters. Yes, he may be chair of the ERG. Yes, he may write numerous articles for the papers. Yes, he was instrumental in triggering the failed challenge to May’s leadership. Yes, Boris Johnson coveted his endorsement. Yes, he is hugely influential amongst his peers, and widely respected by Conservatives everywhere for his strong principles and unwavering commitment to a clean and proper Brexit. But this should in no way be taken to mean that he represents anyone but himself.
For an example of a truly representative Brexiter, you need look no further than Boris Johnson, who takes all that is great and good in our friend Jacob but, crucially, adds a magnificent mane of blonde beauty, and cunningly conceals his peerless intellect (we British are rightly suspicious of clever cloggs – sorry Rees-Mogg) by acting the fool, thereby demonstrating his great wisdom – but only to those who can handle the truth. As a scholar of the classics, our golden boy fully understands and appreciates the value of the golden lie.
July 15, 2019
Stupid boy. I am all in favour of any immigrant who comes to the UK and contributes in whatever way he or she can. I am against people trafficers from xxxxx, ATM scammers and beggars from xxxxxx and any others who see the UK as a soft target. Come Brexit we can send them packing. Contrary to your oft expressed denigration of all things UK, the greatest vote of confidence in an EU free sovereign UK comes from all those who take to rubber boats in France to get here. Think about it and ask yourself why.
July 15, 2019
agricola
“confidence in an EU free sovereign UK”?
How strange. Whenever I hear interviews with refugees they all want to go to Germany.
July 16, 2019
Perhaps it is because Mrs Merkel has said please come.
Once settled they can go anywhere in the EU of course.
July 16, 2019
Margaret Howard, So the ones camped outside Calais are there because they want to go to Germany?
July 15, 2019
In case you forgot we had an empire and Commonwealth and that is why we have some diversity in our sports teams, and there are various rights that they have to settle here. Nobody wants to stop immigration, but we want to control it to maintain cohesion in our society.
By the way, there are Syrian refugees in the UK, but they are behind the Iraqis, Iranians and Afghanis who are trying to cross the Channel in boats!
Zorro
July 15, 2019
I never hear the word diversity when I travel to Barbados. It appears to be a peculiar western phenomena
Racism is not a white phenomena. Racism is a HUMAN phenomena
And Brexit is not about RACE. Brexit is about self governance, sovereignty and independence
Your attempts to portray Brexit supporters as racist is pathetic, infantile and sinister.
July 15, 2019
I agree about poorly designed products. One thing that particularly bugs me are devices that beep at me. My car has numerous different beeps – doors not closed properly, lights left on, speed camera, lane sensor and so on. I do not speak beep – please give it a voice to tell me what you are objecting to.
What is missing in all this is actually asking people – not broad questions about whether they want a new product (they invariably do) – but in how they want it to work when they have it.. There is no question that digital radio is better than FM but you do not like your model because of flaws in the type of digital radio you have. Mine, for example, has a battery as well as mains power – so it saves my settings if I unplug it.
This has important lessons for Brexit. Why, you cry? Well the public have bought your product. They narrowly decided that the new look Leave was better than the tried and tested Remain. When Leave disappoints them because it has not been thoroughly consumer tested, do not be surprised when the public asks for its money back. Brexit is the UK wide version of a very poorly designed product.
July 15, 2019
Andy, Why should Leave disappoint? Most of the planet is not “in” the EU. Are all those free nations a “poorly designed product”? It seems that you are unnaturally straining to find a tenuous connection from technology to your totalitarian EU fanaticism.
July 15, 2019
Most of the planet is not in the USA , perhaps New York State should leave it and go global ?
July 16, 2019
Newmania, If they want. So what? Andy claimed that being out of the EU was a”very poorly designed product”. Yet it is a plain fact that most of the planet is not in the EU. So why is independence for the UK a poorly designed product but it is not so for the rest of the world? Or are you both saying the whole planet should be ruled by the EU?
July 15, 2019
Every EU country – even the poorest – is in the richest third of countries in the world per capita. Think about that. Among the 60 or so richest countries – more then than half are in the EU, the EEA or the surrounding micro-states.
Brexit will make all of us poorer. But as I have said all along the economics is the least worst part of the Brexiteersâ xenophobia. And thatâs what it is.
July 16, 2019
Well that’s not correct Andy.
Maybe France Germany and Holland but the big emerging future economies are outside the EU
South Korea Australia Singapore Japan South Africa Canada USA China to name just a few.
And you incorrectly are assuming that the UK won’t continue to trade with the European economies post Brexit.
July 16, 2019
Andy, You cycle through the tired old Remain cliches as though each one is novel. You have no basis for saying that we will be poorer out of the EU. You may think so, but I think the opposite. It’s a judgement, not a separable fact. Then you’re back on the “Brexit was due to xenophobia” calumny. But peddling such trash just shows your ignorance. The reason you don’t know, is because you don’t want to know.
July 15, 2019
Andy
Your vehicle seems remarkably sophisticated for a child’s pedal car!
July 15, 2019
Some immigration is good and some is a large net liability. What the people wanted was to have proper UK based democratic controls and some quality control over immigration.
And not be obliged to take everyone from the EU and then have to discriminate against non EU doctors, scientist and top engineers for example – from say Australia, China or India. What is not sensible about this? May ruled out a points based system but never said why. I assume because she got everything thing wrong and this issue was no different from all the others.
July 15, 2019
We do have control over immigration. And we are not obliged to take everyone from the EU. And we only discriminate against non-EU people because thatâs what our government has decided to do.
July 16, 2019
You are displaying your complete lack of knowledge of the effect of the EU’s open borders policy.
Since 2000 we have had the biggest increase in our population in our history.
Unsustainable.
July 16, 2019
Andy, The only practical effect of not being in Schengen is that we can check who is coming in. We can’t stop them. So we don’t have control over EU immigration, contrary to your claim. And since Merkel’s open door policy, once migrants get into the EU, they can come here. And they do.
July 15, 2019
And let’s say it all over again:
we don’t dislike Europeans, we simply and REALLY don’t like the idea of a Federal Union of Europe
July 15, 2019
Newmania
Gosh…and there was me thinking it was all about cricket!!
Why on earth are you focussing on race?
Well,well!
July 15, 2019
Trust you to make it about immigration …. yet again.
July 15, 2019
The England team of late has benefited from many great south Africans and other colonial countries that feel a strong bond with Britain.
We achieved yesterday a best in the world performance by not closing our doors to former commonwealth countries as we have with business.
Come November we will be enjoying New Zealand and Austrialian food, soon to be joined by US and many other countries.
I make a prediction here, for November, despite the UK shutting its doors to world trade and generously funding the EU, we will discover the world is very friendly while the EU is very unfriendly and keeps banging on about their demands for more money.
July 15, 2019
Gareth
“Come November we will be enjoying New Zealand and Austrialian food, soon to be joined by US and many other countries”
I well remember the bitterness NZealand and Australia felt towards us when we stopped their imports of mainly dairy and frozen lamb respectively overnight when we joined the EU.
It bankrupted many small farmers and they had to look East for new markets.
Do you really think they have forgotten and come running now out of loyalty? We showed none towards them.
July 16, 2019
Yes I reckon they will be happy to rejoin the UK family after we leave.
Despite how poorly we treated them years ago.
July 16, 2019
I’m already buying their goods and hope to buy more. I prefer NZ wines to European anyway.
July 16, 2019
Margaret Howard, There is a TRQ for New Zealand lamb. I can’t say your Remain ignorance is unique because unfortunately it isn’t. But having to give you the same facts over and over is as wearying as spoonfeeding a toddler going through the terrible twos.
July 17, 2019
mh,
Certainly not forgotten here in OZ or in NZ. However, both countries are pragmatic and will happily and enthusiastically embrace new trade opportunities with a sovereign UK. Just as the EU, if their blatant political ambitions do not take precedence over common sense, should do with the UK after Brexit
July 15, 2019
Food from NZ and Australia is already available.
And the EU is being perfectly friendly. It is just waiting for you to decide which of your mutually contradictory red lines you are going to scrap.
July 16, 2019
Andy, Jeering that they have finally made us a colony is the opposite of friendly.
July 15, 2019
Newmania
Typical cobblers
Remainers were all over social media crowing about immigrants winning it for England
COMMONWEALTH people have been welcomed to this country for over 70 years, long before the EU thought of free movement . None of the England cricket team are from the EU ( Ireland has special status) .
WAKE up and look at the facts immigration was not the main reason for Brexit, where immigration was raised as a factor was in the actual fact that imported East European workers were being paid well below going rate and were therefore causing disruption in the job market . I know many many many Brexit supporters, not one of them has a problem with continued managed immigration
The whole virtue signalling wokeness of the majority of Remainers is they want to believe that Brexit voters dont like foreigners . total b******cks of course , you’ve no other idea why you want to stay in the EU
Syrians and other refugees arriving here is not a function of Brexit either way its a completely different set of issues. Of course brain dead remainers try to conflate the two as they lack any other coherent answers . Whether we stay or leave refugees will continue to arrive. They will do so having crossed western europe first because they see the UK as the most friendly , successful and safe place to settle
July 15, 2019
COMMONWEALTH people have been welcomed to this country for over 70 years,
Ha ha ha ha ..welcome ? You think? ….. It was that well known welcome-r ” Enoch Powell” who lead the first Leave vote , perhaps you would like me to quote some of his warm words ?
The Brexit Party is full of people who say” Enoch got it right” to this day and if that is what yuou think a welcome looks like I am not coming to visit your house, not even if you offer cheesy wot-sits and babycham on a serving trolley.
July 16, 2019
Newmania
First find out what the commonwealth is, then tell me about how ONE PERSONS fears translates to not being welcome.
You are a total idiot whose only form of argument is to printed that there is something evil about millions of people who dont agree with you.
The Brexit party contains members with Asian, African, Caribbean , French, Irish and other nationalities.. Of course they are all racists according to you
July 15, 2019
Oh dear.
âNone of the England cricket team are from the EU.â
A factually inaccurate statement which shows your problem.
In fact, they are virtually all from the EU – on the grounds that most were born in the United Kingdom, and the UK is in the EU and has been for decades.
Nearly all of the England cricket team have spent their entire adult lives as EU citizens – some were born EU citizens.
And this is what Brexiteers do not understand.
Brexit will not stop me considering myself as a European Union citizen. You seek to take from me something I value – and something I have been all of my adult life. You can no more take my identity away from me than you could take someoneâs religion away. It is part of who I am.
And the unfortunate thing for you is that there are many millions like me – we are, predominantly, younger than you most of you – and all we have to do is wait for demographics to do its job.
The economics of Brexit is terrible – but as I have said all along it is the least worst part about it. You will lose in the end because you are trying to stop people from being who they are. You will ultimately fail – as all suppressors eventually do.
July 16, 2019
You cannot be an EU citizen Andy.
The EU isn’t a recognised nation.
Ask the UN
July 16, 2019
What a stupid post. We are British and I am English. Oh, how dare I say that? Actually, with a lot of pride. The EU is not a country and never will be mine.
July 16, 2019
Andy, The EU empire is not a nation and has no demos, so must attempt to suppress the national feelings of patriotism in its subject states in order to justify its own existence. You have swallowed that propaganda. So you confuse your gullibility for a “value” because you have spent your life sneering at real patriotism. You have been duped by the ersatz. No wonder you are so frantic.
July 18, 2019
What did a certain Samuel Johnson say in 1775? Oh yes, “Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel”.
And to displease even more of you here, I will add that more recent one: “There is something about the state” (more exactly 160,000 CUP members) “putting the power to bully into the hands of subnormal, sadistic apes that makes my blood boil”.
July 16, 2019
Andy
There is NO SUCH THING AS AN EU CITIZEN
In order to play for England you have to be Engilsh by birth or via a family connection
No they are not all from the EU , they are mostly from the commonwealth
July 15, 2019
Newmania, what a load of old tosh you talk. Once again a nasty post from you. I am sure the flood of boat people are still coming into Europe but the media choose not to tell us about it. Same as the riots in France. What do you see on the news? Zilch. We are not anti immigrants on this site. We are just against inviting all and sundry especially when we don’t know who half of them are and if they have criminal records. People with good jobs who can support themselves and give something back to our society are welcome. Those that have to rely on the state and tax payers money are not. There is a difference. Dont’ even get me started on those that pose a threat to our safety. There are plenty out there. Yes, there was a sweet victory for England and we can have that economically too when we are once again a sovereign country. You are just so negative I’m surprised you don’t worry about whether the sun will come up tomorrow.
July 15, 2019
Newmania, That is a silly comment even for you.
You maintain that because (some) immigrants = good people, that therefore the UK should be ruled by the EU. It is a non-sequitur.
All you do is stick your fingers in your ears, go “la la la la, not listenin, you all hate immigrants, told you so!!!”
That is why you are losing. If you want to talk sensibly you would have to address issues such as the nation, the demos, the human right of self-determination, power, customs, the common law, corruption, etc. All beyond your simplistic, bitter, bigoted, narrow, totalitarian EU-centred views.
July 15, 2019
It was just a game of cricket mate. And one that gave lots of people something to cheer about.
July 15, 2019
Ingerlund, Ingerlund, Ingerlund! Champions of the world! The Brexit dividend is paying off already!
July 15, 2019
Simeon
“Champions of the world!”????
Which part of the world is that? China? Russia? America? Europe? Japan?
July 16, 2019
The cricket world cup is open to any nation in the world Margaret.
Then there was a knick out competition and England got to the final and won.
July 16, 2019
MH
Ignore Margaret she has no idea that there are countries outside the 27 EU members
Why she struggles with a competition called the World Cup being a cup competed for by the world I’ve no idea .
All the countries that you mention in fact have international cricket teams, they just didn’t make it to the final.
Just so you know Europe doesn’t have a cricket team because its a continent made up of 54 countries
July 15, 2019
Yes an epic day when you add Silverstone and the mens final at Wimbledon to it. Both Federer and Hamilton are long overdue knighthoods for their services to sport.
July 16, 2019
They aren’t heroes and they are extremely well paid for what they do in what is in fact the entertainment business. I’d rather see such honours going to people who selflessly give of themselves unseen by the public, and unrewarded. Those who care for years for sick and disabled family members for instance. But that isn’t going to happen any time soon.
July 15, 2019
Boris take note! Team Government need to deploy a bit of resource and determination – hell they only have to beat the stultified EU not brilliant NZ! Even I could do it – single handed!
What a year! Everybody is getting their mojo back, including my small shopkeeper tenants who are planning again! Enthusiastic again! Investing again!
Happy days!
July 15, 2019
Indeed by the absolute slimmest of margins, after a fantastic contest, England won, fantastic entertainment and congratulations.
But I fear the New Zealand team may lodge a complaint, or take the result to court, as they were not sure how many runs they needed when they batted first, yes they did win the toss, but it was different weather conditions when the toss was made, to what it really turned out to be in the end, and had they really known how many runs England would score, they could have perhaps scored some more.
Thus both teams should share the trophy as a compromise.
Does the basis of this argument sound familiar.?
July 15, 2019
Perhaps if we could get cricket and other National sports on free to view television on a regular basis then we may get a few more taking up the game.
We also may just may generate a little more pride in our Country and by encouraging people to take up sport get people a little more fit.
No National team games should be on pay per view. Simples.
Even less popular games/sports could be shown as recordings.
July 15, 2019
I note Mrs May was at the cricket – cheering on England.
Was Mr Johnson there or was he cheering on his own self-interest?
Reply Mrs May got a free ticket as PM which was clearly not yet available to Boris.
July 15, 2019
Andy
Mr Major was also there, but somehow I do not think he wants New Zealand to challenge the result
July 15, 2019
“…not yet..” – there is confidence, well-placed though it may be!
July 15, 2019
Reply to reply
Is he too poor to pay for one?
July 15, 2019
Indeed. TV on very early and some channel hopping between Channel 4 and More 4. At one stage it looked as if England would never get the runs but a changing wicket and a strong partnership between Stokes and Buttler improved our chances.
I hope there is more cricket on terrestrial TV but I suspect there will not be. This victory will not be used to boost the game and cricketâs decline will continue.
July 15, 2019
Just in case the BBC havenât reminded us enough, Iâd like to point out that it was the England Menâs team that won the Menâs World Cup. Please everyone remember thereâs a womenâs team too. And a Womenâs World Cup.
Thank you.
July 15, 2019
Yes, they’ve recently been being tonked by the Crims in the Women’s Ashes; something of a misnomer in my book since they don’t get to play a proper full- length match.
July 15, 2019
Meanwhile the bonkers BBC headlined: Cricket World Cup: “England men win incredible final”. This PC madness is bizarre, to say the least. And a sign of the times, for sure (Psalm 2).
July 15, 2019
I am going to do a Gxxa and get my lawyers to write to the ICC complaining that as the winning margin was so narrow, that the game should be played again. The margin was less than 52:48. I just could not Leave it there. I had to do something, being so English and demanding fair play for the foreign team.
July 15, 2019
Grahame, great post. I don’t even like cricket but I watched it because my husband likes it. I was actually excited by the whole game and loved it. What a game! Well done England. How nice to see both teams congratulate each other with good intent.
July 15, 2019
On a more serious note from my previous mail, I was disappointed with the Sky coverage of the final via Channel4. (Interruptions – adverts during the over, rather than at the end, flashback thereby missing a wicket, delayed coverage – 1-2 balls after real time (BBC commentary was real time).
I thought this would be a good opportunity for Sky to attract more subscribers for their sporting programme. Seriously disappointed, that I finished listening to the match courtesy of the commentary on BBC.
Excellent game. Hopefully BBC will be able to televise live cricket in future, with the possibility of encouraging youngsters to take up the sport.
July 15, 2019
This was a magnificent example of talent delivering the results against the odds and young players from all over the old Commonwealth only to proud to play for the country of their choice.
Interesting that Eoin Morgan born in Co Dublin chooses his mother’s country and Ben Stokes hails from NZ whilst Jofra Archer is from Barbados.
That reflects how Great Britain came about over many centuries and contrasts why more sports like cricket and rugby are played here than continental Europe where they are regarded as eccentric.
Football caught on as a better way to argue than war 100 years ago!
Anyway to our friends in NZ both teams were magnificent in any sporting person’s book.
July 15, 2019
We often forget that Wales should be credited with its valuable contribution to the England & Wales Cricket community!
July 15, 2019
Are yes you only support anything English if it is “diverse”
July 15, 2019
The BBC outlets are saying that it is the men’s World Cricket Cup. I can understand men being excluded from a women’s team, but does this mean that women, if good enough, are excluded from the national team?
If so, it rather does a disservice to kids where at certain ages the ability of boys and girls are similar.
July 15, 2019
Miami Mode
The English Ladies Cricket team won the Women’s World Cup last year.
Would you suggest some of the better men players played in the ladies team, oh no you can understand that, but why ?