For those interested I am speaking at the following meetings on Monday 4 th October
13.00Ā Ā Bruges GroupĀ Ā on theĀ future of Conservatism with 3 other speakers
Science and Industry Museum
Liverpool Road
Manchester M3 4FP
18.30Ā Ā Politeia
Making the most of Brexit
with Jacob Rees Mogg, David Jones and Barnabas Reynolds
Novotel Manchester Centre
21 Dickinson Street M1 4LX
October 1, 2021
Enjoy, Manchester is a nice place,….. then again so is Bruges
October 1, 2021
All very laudable and I am sure you will spell it out as it needs to be spelt out. However it is all at fringe meetings that may or may not get attention. I trans late this entry as my presence on the main platform and the messages I might impart are far too toxic for the carefully ochestrated claporama. In fact they might attract far too much support from the grass roots in the hall who I suspect are really hanging on some true blue Conservatism. They certainly will not be in line with the left of centre ill
thought out official green agenda we have been fed to date. I will follow it all and look forward to hearing your contributions. I hope GB news broadcast them. Others will not. Have a good conference.
October 1, 2021
I would indeed love to see your contribution to these events. Will they be broadcast live on YouTube, or will videos be available on that site later? The organisers should ‘get with it’ and make the most of the free internet resources available to publicise their viewpoint!
October 1, 2021
What happened to the NI protocol? Was it not supposed to have been resolved by the 1 October?
Boris is in the bunker, same one as Calamity Theresa?
October 1, 2021
Well, it hasn’t been, and so? A big fuss and todo about half of one percent of UK trade and it has not been resolved.
And what has happened? Has the sky fallen? NI was supposed to be starving by now; is it? There was supposed to be serious violence; was there? There was supposed to be massive unemployment; was there? It was supposed to a spark off a border referendum; did that happen? The IRA were supposed to be emerging; did they? The EU were supposed to be ruling NI by now; are they?
October 2, 2021
What jon doesn’t mention is that the UK has unilaterally extended grace periods to defer the application of some of the worst provisions of the protocol and the EU has stayed its hand on legal action.
From July 27:
https://www.rte.ie/news/brexit/2021/0727/1237612-europe-pauses-legal-action-against-uk-over-ni-protocol/
“The European Commission has paused its legal action against the United Kingdom for alleged breaches of the Northern Ireland Protocol, to buy time and space to consider the changes to the protocol sought by the UK in a paper published last week.
While it will not renegotiate the protocol itself, a commission spokesperson said “it is essential that we continue constructive discussions in the week ahead”.
The European Commission was expected to issue a “reasoned opinion” – the next phase in a formal infringement proceeding – this week, after the UK unilaterally extended part of the protocol.
The goodwill gesture by the commission is in response to the Command Paper presented last week to the British Parliament by David Frost, the UK minster in charge of relations with the EU.”
October 2, 2021
Further to which, JR, please could you and likeminded colleagues press Boris Johnson and Lord Frost to crack on and (at least) publish drafts of the new UK legislation envisaged in the Command Paper?
https://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2021/10/01/bottlenecks-and-opportunities/#comment-1264289
It is more than two months since Lord Frost said he was ready to bring in that UK legislation, designed to provide an alternative system of protection of the EU’s Single Market, so why not get on and do it?
As far the additional burden on business is concerned it would add little to run a UK exports control system in parallel with the EU’s import control system; for example in the following case the firm could have just across the paperwork for the 3 shipments which were destined for export to the Republic:
https://www.newsletter.co.uk/business/ni-protocol-described-as-a-car-crash-and-a-nightmare-as-one-haulier-says-firm-may-fold-within-months-3384570
“For example, the other day he counted 45 shipments, of which only three were ultimately destined to go on to the Republic of Ireland. āBut yet I had to do declarations for all 45 shipments,ā he said.”
Once it was shown that a UK exports control scheme was effective in preventing non-compliant goods entering the EU Single Market then the EU’s stupid import control scheme could be dropped and he could stop having to do declarations for the large number of shipments which are not going on to the EU.
October 2, 2021
“… just copied across the paperwork for the 3 shipments which were destined for export to the Republic:”
October 2, 2021
The Irish seem pretty confident that Boris Johnson will follow in Theresa May’s footsteps and cave in:
https://www.rte.ie/news/brexit/2021/1001/1250233-brexit-northern-ireland-protocol/
“‘Hugely problematic backward step’ if UK triggers Article 16 – Coveney”
https://www.rte.ie/news/2021/1001/1250263-boris-johnson-protocol/
“Johnson unlikely to play Article 16 card just yet”
Well then, don’t trigger it, just very obviously prepare to trigger it by passing the necessary laws.
October 1, 2021
Talking about the future of Conservatism in Museum is very appropriate.
“Making the most of Brexit” with Jacob Rees Mogg … ; come off it; you are taking the piss surely!!!
October 1, 2021
Wonderful political comment acorn
Incisive, erudite, witty and delightful.
You lefties…so funny.
October 2, 2021
About as wonderful, incisive, erudite, witty, delightful and intelligent as 99% of yours, P2.
As a member having forgotten to book early, I would now have to pay Ā£440 (late registration) to attend the conference. Maybe something for a multi-BTL landlord, not for me.
October 2, 2021
Oh thanks heffy.
So nice of you.
October 1, 2021
I see it is a hybrid event.
How very āgreenā. And soulless and horrible.
If you are actually going JR have a safe trip and enjoy the conference!
October 1, 2021
I see that you recently tweeted “We should ban the ultra large industrial [fishing] vessels.” Of course you are right (as usual!) but you have been saying this for ages, and the government – YOUR government – has done NOTHING. Surely it is obvious that they have NO intention to tackle this problem? This is completely consistent with the rest of their total INACTION when it comes to making the most of the opportunities offered by Brexit.
And this leads me directly to your Politeia debate (you see, I am sticking to your topic!) with Jacob Rees Mogg. How can he, such a prominent Brexiteer, be a member of a government which has BETRAYED Brexit (on NI, on fishing, on control of our borders, etc). He sold out for a trivial government job which gives him NO power to actually DO anything! Has he no shame, no self-respect and no principles? **And will you challenge him on this?**
October 1, 2021
There used to be a sensible rule on Netnews that any post with CAPITAL LETTERS could safely be ignored.
October 1, 2021
And yet you DIDN’T ignore my comment.
And YOU used capital letters in YOUR reply.
And given there is no facility to write in either bold or italics on this blog, using capital letters is the only way of creating emphasis. Do you never use emphasis when talking? What a boring, monotone speech pattern you must have!
PS. Never heard of Netnews. Obviously they’re not particularly successful, so they and their silly rules can safely be ignored!
October 2, 2021
Yes, agreed, the lack of italics etc. is a problem for normal writing.
Creating emphasis lexically using words such as “signally”, “particularly”,” absolutely”, “literally” etc. works to an extent but is less elegant.
October 2, 2021
I suspect Jon is referring to Usenet News which preceded web based forums and blogs It was used by techies and geeks – those who developed the internet and most of the voice and datacomms technologies you all rely on today … and it is still going strong without the advertising and malware.
October 2, 2021
Banning the ultra large trawlers from our waters was always within our powers, it is not an opportunity that only arises because of Brexit. There are many such myths about supposed new freedoms. We could have had blue passports before, for example, and we also had independent powers for emergency approval of vaccines even whilst in the EU. It will be interesting to hear about genuine new wins from Brexit, I’m prepared to wait but we’ve been out for getting on two years and I can’t see any upsides yet. The heat is on for Brexiters.
October 3, 2021
Villaking – so why do you think ultra large trawlers havenāt been banned by the UK? Who profits from them?
Would it just be a simple majority vote in Westminster to ban ultra large trawlers from next week?
We didnāt leave two years ago, we were trapped in a withdrawal agreement and we have been frozen in time by Covid we are only just a few days out of furlough and opened back up!
However, I do agree that we need to hear of the changes NOW>
October 1, 2021
Thanks, but your Party is no longer a genuine Conservative one, although I accept that it still has a few MPs who are. I won’t be watching.
I’m far more interested in what Richard Tice and Reform UK have to say. As Tim Montgomerie says in todays DT, we need a genuine conservative alternative to scare the bejesus out of the CON-Johnson and his LibCONs.
October 1, 2021
Donna
Iām in completely agreement, Reform UK is our only hope!
October 1, 2021
If Reform UK is the answer, it must be a passing srrange question.
October 1, 2021
Last time I tried I wasn’t allowed in!
October 1, 2021
Donna, +1
October 1, 2021
Donna, +1, unwatchable.
October 2, 2021
The last Tory conference event that was compelling viewing was Theresa May’s speech as leader.But for all the wrong reasons-Laurel & Hardy in their prime couldn’t have surpassed it!
October 2, 2021
+1 – I agree, Donna. I am a genuine floating voter but I can say with certainty I will not be voting for any of the virtually identical major parties … unless a miracle happens!
October 1, 2021
“The future of Conservatism”
What a curious heading.
It’s like “The prospects for miserliness” or “Hopes for introspectiveness” or “The way ahead for being a bit dull”.
It isn’t a considered philosophy.
It’s a misfortune of personal constitution.
October 1, 2021
or ‘When will Great Britain again rule the waves?’
October 2, 2021
Or even waive the rules!
October 2, 2021
Compared to Socialism where the end goal of murdering millions has been repeated so often.
October 2, 2021
I’m not sure which takes the crown in the mass murder league though, religion, nationalism, or imperialism, Dixie.
October 3, 2021
How clever of you to ignore the role of Socialism as the new religion, the actions of the national socialists in the first half and the communists in the second half of the 20th century. The USSR and China both dipped their toes in imperialistic waters.
And given the unwavering tendancy of these socialist regimes to murder large numbers of people are you claiming this isn’t part of their “considered philosophies”.
October 3, 2021
I’d guess so-called Communism. What say you?
October 2, 2021
Its socialism by a huge majority.
100 million died due to to socalism in the 20th century NLH
Poverty starvation and imprisoned without trial.
Refused the right to leave.
Refused the right to vote.
Off on a cattle train to re education
October 3, 2021
It ain’t, old bean, and by orders.
October 3, 2021
You are wrong NLH
October 1, 2021
āMaking the most of Brexit.ā
Thatāll be a short session.
October 2, 2021
Blue passports though, Andy.
October 1, 2021
āMaking the most of Brexit.ā
I hope that you ERG types really make something sensible out of this session. Brexit itself is in the bag, but currently the intellectually lazy are dominating the headlines with jeering and sloppy illogic. The latest thing I saw this morning is supermarkets with empty shelves in *Brussels*, actually due to a lack of Belgian drivers, but with comments on the story by some Remainers blaming it on Brexit.
It would be a salutary thing for the public to see some sensible analysis
October 2, 2021
Yes, I’m sure that there are instances as you describe in Belgium and elsewhere, Jon, but it’s a matter of degree, isn’t it? And it’s the fuel famine which is the more pressing matter for most people too.
I was listening to a Polish trucker, Tomasz Orinsky – more articulate in English by far than most Leave voters – expressing scepticism that many would take up the visa offer. He says that his profession has very clear memories of the inhuman way – now infamous – in which they were treated by the British last Christmas.
He didn’t suggest that any attached any blame whatsoever to the French, however, as claimed by Leavers here. The uptake of these visas will be the measure of that, perhaps.
October 2, 2021
We don’t have a fuel famine, we have a glut of inconsiderate idiots panic buying.
October 2, 2021
So why is the Government proposing this visa scheme as a solution then?
It could easily bring in a Ā£30 cap purchase for non-commercial customers, say, couldn’t it, if what you say were true?
October 2, 2021
I don’t speak for the government nor am I party to political reasons for policy decisions.
To quote from the press “a joint statement from petrol suppliers including Shell, ExxonMobil and Greenergy pointed out that the pressures on supply were being caused by “temporary spikes in customer demand ā not a national shortage of fuel”.”
Meanwhile, I and many others are unpaid carers and rely on our vehicles.
Far from being helpful and supportive you instead propose denying me access to fuel and preventing me from providing appropriate care and support for a vulnerable individual.
October 2, 2021
No one has claimed that there is a fuel shortage.
Anyone who understands the problem recognises that is is one of logistics, of distribution.
I didn’t propose that measure because it does not address the true problem., and that is why the Government have not done it either.
October 3, 2021
Many petrol stations are doing that Ā£30 type limit already NLH
Interesting you think automatically that the State should do everything.
October 3, 2021
@NLH – “No one has claimed that there is a fuel shortage.”
You just did, above with the phrase “fuel famine”
October 3, 2021
NLH if you came here just to be rude to people, make an assumption about leave voters abilities you are not welcome. As you seem to know so much just how many of these fuel companies employed EU tanker drivers that couldnāt apply for settled status if they were living here on a full time basis, how many, and when did they leave the UK?
The government are listening to the RHA. They donāt seem to be asking for the facts and figures.
October 1, 2021
The trouble with governing party conferences is that expectations can be excessively high. Boris has a majority of 80, Brexit in the bag, credit for vaccines, Covid under control, the EU distinctly less significant in UK daily life – and in the World, too – plus Aukus, so it’s hard to see what he can pull out of the bag.
By contrast, low expectations worked very well for Starmer. All he had to do was not wet himself on stage.
October 2, 2021
Covid19 isn’t really under control.
The EU’s main players have overtaken the UK’s vaccine success.
The effects of NOT being in the EU are impossible to ignore.
Aukus is hardly a matter of general acclaim.
October 2, 2021
Who are the EU’s “main players” in vaccine production success? Does this include the Belgian French-built production facility that couldn’t produce the Astra-Zenica vaccine?
After all, who could forget EU countries hijacking shipments of medical supplies and vaccines sent under legitimate contract to Switzerland, Australia and the UK. Then, despite them being in such a superior position on vaccine production the UE then threated blockade of Northern Ireland.
And if Aukus isn’t a matter of acclaim why are the French government so pissed off?
October 3, 2021
Production of Covid-19 vaccines (as of end of Marchā21):
China 169.4 m, USA 136.1 m, EU 96.2 m, India 68 m, UK 19.3 m, Russia 11.8 m, Switzerland 5.6 m, S.Korea 1.7 m.
% population vaccinated (NB, not distributed vaccines) (as of 27/09/ā21):
Belgium 73.3, Denmark 75.2, Finland 61.6, France 65.5, Germany 64.2, Iceland 77.9, Ireland 75.5, Israel 63.2, Italy 67.1, NL 63.8, Norway 68.0, Poland 51.0, Portugal 83.9, Spain 77.8, Sweden 63.7, Switzerland 55.5, UK 67.3, USA 56.1%.
October 3, 2021
We have a lot of people Hefner obviously who wouldnāt have their jab otherwise our figure would have been 100%.
October 4, 2021
Disappointing that you leapt to the defence of the troll who should have been able to provide their own evidence for their solgans.
However, it would be interesting to know what vaccines are behind the numbers you give – how many rely on Astra-Zenica licencing (eg India) as the company has projected 3 billion doses will be distributed globally by end 2021. And what of other vaccines that benefited from the Oxford research – we know they shared info with other labs including those in Russia.
October 4, 2021
dixie, fair point but the information is not that easy to find. AZ India obviously relies on Oxford research. The mRNA vaccines (Pfizer/BioNTech, Moderna) donāt, the Russian and Chinese very unlikely either. Information on how many of the various vaccines have been used in different countries is not widely available.
October 2, 2021
Covid 19 isn’t ‘under control’ in Israel either, despite Israel being the most Covid-vaccinated country in the world. In fact, they’re already recognising that their third (booster) jab did so little good they’re talking about a fourth jab now. When is the penny going to drop, Nottingham lad? Don’t weaken your immune system (any more).
October 2, 2021
Slogans cut and pasted out of the Guardian.
You are just trolling NLH
October 3, 2021
P2, Is it so much worse than a contributor reporting slogans by a French-mothered libertarian conservative from the Telegraph? Or is it OK because you agree with both the contributor and the original commentator?
October 3, 2021
Yes it is worse hefffy.
October 3, 2021
From The New Yorkerās Maddie Dai, 29/09/2021: The PM: āThe shortages are all British-made and British owned, and thatās something we can be incredibly proud ofā. newyorker.com
October 3, 2021
How does the New Yorker know Hefner, do they have all the facts that the British public donāt have? Letās hear them then. How many trucker drivers did the fuel stations need at the beginning of this crisis. Hoyer in particular – a German company you tell us – now I think they were just out to cause problems.
October 3, 2021
a-tracy
heffy likes the New York Times so he swallows all they tell him.
Like MiC and andy and their beloved Guardian
October 4, 2021
One more thing Hefner you typed The PM and then put speech marks, the PM did not say this, the cartoonist Maddie Dai did under a false misapprehension.
John, your government need to stop this false information being allowed to be spread.
October 2, 2021
Many commenters may be right however without problems there is no solution. A party does have core values but these change as society changes and was once a certain perspective changes concomitantly. Who would have ever thought 30-50 years ago that we would have language problems in every public/ private institution? English now is not the primary language in many parts.
October 2, 2021
Who would have thought it, Margaret? Well, a certain Conservative minister sacked by Edward Heath in April 1968, for a start. I never quite worked out what Heath’s ‘core values’ were.
October 2, 2021
Sorry that should read ‘a certain shadow cabinet member’, not ‘minister’.
October 2, 2021
or rather’ there aren’t any solutions.’ An example of the rapid deterioration of the English language , which is hard to avoid when talking to many .
October 2, 2021
Hope you have a safe journey and a good conference.