The long road to net zero

Tomorrow I will give my lecture at All Souls College Oxford on net zero policies at 11 am.

If you would like to attend in person or by on line link please contact the College at   https://www.asc.ox.ac.uk/event/long-road-net-zero

45 Comments

  1. DOM
    February 24, 2022

    By accepting the political aims of the Net Zero narrative suggests you’re either ideologically captured or lost touch with what is real, true and practicable.

    NZ is about State politics and control over the private sector not about protecting the environment. It’s a scam and we all know it

    1. Guy Liardethttps://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2022/02/04/you-can-interfere-too-much/#comment-1297725
      February 25, 2022

      How I agree. Your lecture will of course cover present scientific opinion that CO2 has a negligible effect on climate and UKs contribution to global carbon dioxide (not ‘carbon’ for god’s sake) is just over one per cent and therefore the whole agony – Lotd Lawson’s ‘unparalleled economic calamity’ is utterly pointless.

  2. Mark B
    February 24, 2022

    Good morning – again.

    Ah ! A topic that I actually care about rather than a country I know little or have any interest in. And that is not meant as a dig bytheway.

    Well we know the long road to Net Zero is going to be hell. It seems higher prices are here and that we will all, except the very rich, will have to start tightening our belts over the coming years. Travel is set to rise in London, energy, food, Council Tax, insurance and so on. This is going to have a very negative effect on the remaining productive (non-governmental) economy and add more woes to embattered private sector. Coupled on to this a greater tax grab for the State in the form of ENIC and Corporation Tax rises.

    Like our kind host and others I predict that the government will, over time, receive less and less revenue as it slowly throttles the life out of the economy. I said a long time ago, and others here and elsewhere are now saying the same, it feels more and more like the 70’s. All we need now is for flare trousers, winged collars and platform shoes to come back into fashion to complete the picture.

    1. No Longer Anonymous
      February 24, 2022

      Plus parking charges on private (employer owned) property. Yet another tax on going to work.

    2. Mike Wilson
      February 24, 2022

      Even in the backwater I live in, youngsters are wearing flares.

    3. Original Richard
      February 24, 2022

      Mark B : “I said a long time ago, and others here and elsewhere are now saying the same, it feels more and more like the 70’s.”

      Regarding standard of living I think we’re more likely to be ending up in the early 1950s with rationing.

  3. MPC
    February 24, 2022

    Mr Sunak has already told us we’ll have to get used to higher energy prices and Mr Johnson ‘there’s nothing wrong with being woke’. Welcome to a prosperous and progressive future under Conservative government.

    1. No Longer Anonymous
      February 24, 2022

      There is a problem with Woke. It comes from universities. It has no idea of the realities of life. It is an ideal which states that black is white and to dare question it now risks livelihood, employment, cash flow and even liberty.

      Woke is where competing female swimmers have to smile benignly on the second and third podiums at the male who has just beaten them and set new records or else lose their place at the top American university that hosted the race and blight their futures.

      This is coming to real world sport and is already manifesting itself in toilets in public buildings where unisex loos (for the sake of a tiny minority) have women having to sit on wet seats and men having to queue while people do their make-up. (Our new theatre.) Mark my words. Weeing standing up and urinals will be banned in the near future.

      We are told that Putin is the threat to global peace and liberty yet he is hemmed in by China on one side and EU/Nato on the other – a movement into territory either way will result in a nuclear backlash. The “Putin must be stopped or he will take over Europe” line is a lie told by the same people who made us reliant on his gas and his London roubles. The vote-ignoring EU took itself up to his borders without mandate and now complains about “our back yard” Can no-one see the irony ?

      Putin does not have an ideology that a megalomaniac needs to take over whole power systems. The West most certainly does. It is called Woke and we see its worst boot-on-neck manifestations in New Zealand and Canada of all places.

      1. Gary Megson
        February 24, 2022

        Have you ever been to a University? I mean, ever? Everything you describe comes direct from the online pages of the Mail and Express. It has not the slightest relationship to anything happening in a British University, ever. And by the way the EU is on Putin’s borders because the people of the relevant states (Romania, Poland, Estonia, latvia, Lithuania) freely chose by democratic vote to join the EU – if you don’t think that’s a mandate, then no, I don’t think you do see the irony, nor do you understand freedom

        1. Peter2
          February 24, 2022

          This is the ridiculous concept that because you have a degree and you don’t, my opinion trumps yours.
          If you were at graduate intelligence level Gary you would realise that is a very silly idea.

        2. No Longer Anonymous
          February 24, 2022

          The online pages of the Mail and the Express say take Putin on. I most certainly don’t.

          Woke is coming from Western universities. The Ivy League Championships is the sporting event I allude to.

      2. Nottingham Lad Himself
        February 24, 2022

        Simply unhinged nonsense.

        1. Peter2
          February 24, 2022

          In other words NHL doesn’t agree with you NLA but will not explain why

        2. No Longer Anonymous
          February 24, 2022

          What is unhinged nonsense is that Putin (with 100,000 troops) is a new Hitler about to rampage through Europe.

          Such hot headed nonsense as this will lead to nuclear conflaguration.

          It is reasonable that Putin should ask for a buffer zone between the EU/Nato. Whether people voted to join the EU/Nato or not – what on earth did we expect when our power system reached Russia’s back yard ?

          1. No Longer Anonymous
            February 24, 2022

            Correction 190,000 troops.

            Hitler waged conquest with 13.6 million.

          2. Nottingham Lad Himself
            February 25, 2022

            I don’t have a problem with your analysis here.

  4. Bryan Harris
    February 24, 2022

    Or as I see it:

    The long road to MISERY.


    Nobody has attempted to define what this final destination will be like for the average person, but let’s extrapolate what we know and what we’ve been told:

    – use of energy will be expensive, and we can expect regular blackouts;
    – water and electricity will be metered, and withheld for any reason by the authorities;
    – health matters will be dictated to us – WE WILL BE VACCINATED WHEN TOLD – There are already treaties and moves to make WHO have total power over health care. We will end up with a system like Obamacare where there will be no choice in what medicines can be prescribed. Natural remedies will be banned;
    – we will be expected to work locally and discouraged from travelling;
    – cars will only be available to the political elite who will be able to travel widely;
    – covid will still be used to make sure we are obedient, for the scare stories will never end;
    – our diet, except for the elites, will be akin to 3rd world countries subsistence levels, with all the bugs we can find to eat an extra privilege;
    – we will still be forced to stop using oil or create Co2, with severe penalties;
    – Money will of course have been digitalised, so that just as is happening in Canada with banks suspending accounts to starve out the truckers, the future will see us starved and unable to live without access to our bank accounts. With no physical money no help would be coming from friends – you can imagine how this would turn out.

    Please explain how this will not happen.

  5. glen cullen
    February 24, 2022

    Soft-power doesn’t work, appeasement doesn’t work
.when will this woke government realise that high tax, high energy cost, net-zero and its green revolution also doesn’t work !
    We’re not Russia…how about asking the people

  6. Christine
    February 24, 2022

    This is a socialist government, not a conservative one. Just read last year’s Queen’s Speech to see what’s in store for us with all the Globalist Build Back initiatives laid out. This doesn’t match the manifesto voters voted for. Johnson says people want better funded public services. This isn’t true, people want lower taxes and value for money. With the freezing of tax allowances, new and increased taxes, net-zero costs, energy cost increases, mass immigration, this government is hurting the very people it is supposed to represent.

    1. glen cullen
      February 24, 2022

      Spot on Christine, I agree with every word you’ve said

  7. Richard Lark
    February 24, 2022

    How can we fight Putin either economically or militarily whilst our arms and legs are tied and bound by our adherence to NetZero and the Climate Change Act?

    1. Bill B.
      February 24, 2022

      Perhaps you should go off and fight Russia, Richard, and then tell us what works.

    2. glen cullen
      February 24, 2022

      Correct – Just imagine a command post, with a climate crusader telling the battle group commander that he’s achieved his carbon footprint for that day….so stop advancing

  8. adam
    February 24, 2022

    ban nuclear
    ban coal
    ban oil
    ban gas
    ban plastics
    ban meat
    etc.

    how about creating something.
    why is banning such an acheivement

    1. glen cullen
      February 24, 2022

      Banning things is communist social engineering
      Creating things is capitalist liberalisation of society

      1. Mark B
        February 25, 2022

        +1

    2. glen cullen
      February 25, 2022

      We didn’t ban the horse when the steam engine was invented
      We didn’t ban the steam engine when the internal combustion engine was invented
      So why are we banning the internal combustion engine now that the electric car has been re-invented

  9. Original Richard
    February 24, 2022

    Unless we’re saved by science and technology developing nuclear fusion, then the current Net Zero Strategy to produce all our power from the North Sea winds (a plan which BTW does not even include any significant nuclear fission for baseload energy) will inevitably mean that power will be dependent upon unreliable wind and consequently intermittent with very volatile pricing.

    This scenario, where instead of supply matching demand, as it is at present, we will have demand matching supply, is openly admitted in the HoL Industry & Regulators Committee meetings on the subject of Ofgem and Net Zero.

    Every user will have a smart meter so that their power usage and electricity prices can be controlled remotely and, although not yet discussed, it is clear there will be a need for someone to determine who can have energy and who must suffer a blackout.

    This will have such a big effect on our lives that I think it is necessary to have a referendum to make the country aware of the implications of the Net Zero Strategy and for it to decide if the unilateral sacrifices planned are worth our 1% of global CO2 emissions.

  10. Iain Moore
    February 24, 2022

    Best response to Putin’s invasion of Ukraine would be for Johnson to get up and scrap the Net Zero Climate Change policy , tell the country our energy security is vital and as such he is giving the go ahead to fracking and the coal mine that is bogged down in planning enquiries.

    1. Lifelogic
      February 24, 2022

      +1

    2. glen cullen
      February 24, 2022

      Hear Hear

    3. Vernon Wright
      February 24, 2022

      +2, Iain

      I hope, Sir John, that as an experienced investor — even if not prepared to examine the science and therefore still convinced of anthropogenic climate change — you might still be prepared to revise your text in the light of overnight developments and their likely effect on this country.
      .

      Disappointed to see the lecture will going out only on ‘Teams’ and not in a form I can see. (How long will it last: one hour or thirteen? Some-one ought to tell the college there’s no such thing as 12 p.m. Perhaps they’ve all faithfully departed!)

      ΠΞ

    4. Christine
      February 24, 2022

      It’s getting too late for fracking as tens of thousands of new homes have been built on the proposed fracking sites.

  11. Original Richard
    February 24, 2022

    Ofgem, at the HoL Industry & Regulator’s Committee meeting on Ofgem and Net Zero dated 30/11/2021 say they are “very clear that they see Net Zero [Strategy] as fundamental to their existing duty, given that it is to protect current and future consumers”.

    Since Ofgem have taken up the remit to deliver Net Zero, is there anybody protecting the consumers – existing or even future?

    Note that at the same meeting Ofgem also gave rising gas prices as a justification for pursuing Net Zero (transition to wind energy) and this of course would explain the Government’s desire to not develop our own sources of gas and would prefer instead to see rising gas prices.

  12. Original Richard
    February 24, 2022

    Ofgem are expecting there to be 10-14m evs by 2030. This means that if 10m evs were connected in the evening to a 7KW charger the power required would be 70GW.

    Although it will be natural and battery efficient behaviour for an owner to connect their ev to a charger each evening, the connections will fortunately not be all at the same time and the average charging time is unlikely to be all night long.

    Even so, bearing in mind that the installed offshore wind power is planned to be only 40GW by 2030, which BTW is the absolute maximum power, not the average power, then there is going to be needed some very fancy ways developed for all these evs to have a fully charged battery by the following morning, never mind dealing with grid balancing issues.

    Except note that ev batteries are also intended to be used for grid balancing and storage so an ev owner connecting his ev overnight may find he has instead a flat battery in the morning if the wind dropped and the power was needed for more important users.

    Note that each charge/discharge cycle degrades the battery.

    1. Peter L
      February 26, 2022

      See https://www.nationalgrid.com/stories/journey-to-net-zero-stories/can-grid-cope-extra-demand-electric-cars

      “There is definitely enough energy and the grid can cope easily.”

      I guess these guys know.

  13. APL
    February 24, 2022

    JR: “Net zero”

    Well, thanks to the administration you support, and it’s incompetent energy policies, I’ve just been notified that my energy costs have risen by 100%

    Not only is this government a totalitarian dictatorship, it’s also utterly incompetent. If I had wanted an incompetent bunch of facists in power in this country, last election, I would have voted Labour.

    1. Mark B
      February 25, 2022

      Vote Tory get CONmunism

  14. Fedupsoutherner
    February 24, 2022

    Great comments from David Starkey on GB NEWS tonight.

  15. Mark Sullivan
    February 25, 2022

    I have booked some time ago for your lecture on Fri 25 Feb 11.00. All Souls had not sent out the link to join by Team as of Thurs 24th so I have booked again just now. I hope that the Link to join by Teams will be sent out on Friday 09.00. The website page doesn’t say when the college will send it out – you may be able to check on Friday morning that they have done it 1-2 hours before you start. And advise them that some attendees have booked twice hoping this will ensure they do receive the Teams Link !

  16. Mark Sullivan
    February 25, 2022

    Correction – I have seen in your earlier entry on 20 February on your All Souls lecture the advice that “For those attending virtually, Microsoft Teams meeting links will be sent out 1 hour beforehand.” I will await that.

  17. X-Tory
    February 25, 2022

    An interesting talk, Sir John, but it was a shame that no questions were taken from those of us watching online. I wanted to say this: “You began your talk by saying that global action had to be multilateral, and you pointed out that China was the biggest emitter of CO2. But given that China is NOT cutting its output, which you only briefly touched upon, surely that makes everything else you said, and everything that we in the UK are doing, utterly POINTLESS.”

    And that leads to my supplementary question, which is: “At no point have you given us, or shown that the UK government has undertaken, a COST-BENEFIT ANALYSIS to demonstrate the value and benefit to the British people of making all these changes, especially in a scenario where China does not cut its greenhouse gas emissions. Has such a calculation been done and if not isn’t any government action completely irresponsible?”

    reply The rest of the lecture highlighted bad policies in the U.K. to reduce our CO 2 which boost world CO 2 or do not reduce CO 2

  18. Peter L
    February 25, 2022

    Many thanks for the talk. Whilst I’m not seeing the data supports your view, the talk was interesting all the same.

    Many thanks.

  19. glen cullen
    February 25, 2022

    Germany Minister of Transport, Volker Wissing, who recently spoke during an informal meeting with ministers from other European countries near Paris.
    “We want to allow combustion engines even after 2035,” he said, however, there’s one very important detail and it’s that Germany should allow sales of new combustion cars “only if the cars can be powered exclusively with synthetic fuels.”

  20. John McDonald
    February 26, 2022

    Perhaps better to comment after actually hearing what Sir John said.
    It was not justifying net zero rather the cost and practicality.
    A very informative presentation and unbiased for or against CO2 being the cause of climate change.

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