Mr Sunak does want to raise company tax by 31%

The bloggers who come here to criticise everything I say attacked me for not saying Corporation tax will go up by 6% on Mr Sunak’s plans.

If a company earns a profit of £100 it currently pays £19 tax.

Under Mr Sunak’s plan the company would pay £25 tax.

The tax bill has gone up by 31% not by 6%.

Why do you always criticise everything I say even when it means you seek to deny basic arithmetic?

 

83 Comments

  1. Nottingham Lad Himself
    July 15, 2022

    An institutional employer generally has a right to know whether any applicant for a job has a criminal conviction.

    Why then, is the country denied the right to know whether any of those applying for the job of PM have one for partying at No. 10 during lockdown, when we couldn’t even visit dying loved ones?

    1. Peter2
      July 15, 2022

      Does a Fixed Penalty Notice give you a criminal record/ conviction NHL?
      When I did a quick search, various articles said they did not.
      You are the barrack room lawyer on here, so perhaps you would explain why you are right.

      1. Nottingham Lad Himself
        July 15, 2022

        Sir Keir said that he would resign if he got one, didn’t he?

        Would you have pleaded with him not to do so in that event on your above “basis”?

        1. Peter2
          July 15, 2022

          Poor red herring response from you NHL.
          Is a FPN a criminal conviction?
          Does it give you a criminal record?
          Do you know?

    2. agricola
      July 15, 2022

      I think partygate has run its course, best move on. Your comment on relatives that could not be visited is pertinent, how many dying relatives were you prevented from visiting. The real lesson is that we should never repeat this error or many others associated with Covid lockdown. In saying this I am only being wise after the event. We need to cut those who had to make these decisions a lot of slack.

  2. David Peddy
    July 15, 2022

    People often confuse ( or do not know the diference between) percent and percentage points.

    The Corporation Tax increase is 31 percent : it is an increase of 6 percentage points

    1. Lifelogic
      July 15, 2022

      The most common confusion I find is people thinking that when you take VAT off something you take off 20% when in fact you take off only 20%/120% or 1/6.

  3. PeteB
    July 15, 2022

    Sir J,

    3 reasons for the reaction of bloggers:

    1. You switched from Thatcher’s numbers in absolute terms (corporation tax cut from 54% to 34%) to Sunak’s in percentage terms (tax rise of 31% from 15%). Inconsistency in presenting comparable figures is bad practice.

    2. The maths skills of the population are rubbish, thanks to decades of sub-standard teaching.

    3. Critics criticise.

    Moneyweek has a good article today pointing out why low corporation taxis the best option for future PM. Worth a read.

    Also worth asking the candidates where will they cut government spending such that they can afford all the other tax cuts,

  4. Nottingham Lad Himself
    July 15, 2022

    Indeed, Sir John.

    And an increase in a given NI rate from say 3% to 4% is not a 1% increase is it?

    It’s 33%.

    Reply Yes of course

  5. Lifelogic
    July 15, 2022

    Indeed and had you used that same way to illustrate the Thatcher Tax Cuts they would have been:-

    Margaret Thatcher and her Chancellors cut Income tax by ~ 25%

    She cut Top rate Income tax by over ~ 50%

    She cut the top taxes on savings Income by ~ 58%

    She cut Corporation Tax by ~ 35%.

    Rishi Sunak increased the Corporation tax rate by 31% to 25%

    He raised the NI rate by 10%

    He imposed a new Digital services Tax

    He imposed a windfall tax

    He invented a Social Care Tax and supported Net Zero and even the basket case HS2.

    And then he wants us to believe he can be the new Margaret Thatcher!

    He is like Thatcher, Ed Milliband, Blair, Theresa May, Cameron and most rather dire current leadership candidates in that he has foolishly fallen for the scientific clap trap and con trick that is the Net Zero lunacy though.

    A great shame to lose the sensible Suella!

    1. DavidJ
      July 15, 2022

      So Sunak is just another member of the tax and squander enemy.

  6. Know-Dice
    July 15, 2022

    Regardless of how figures are presented to take UK corporation tax to 25% is completely foolish.
    Why do Germany & Luxembourg have around 15% and Republic of Ireland 12.5%?
    Yes those are baseline rates but in all cases much lower than the 25% that Sunak had lined up for the UK.

  7. Lifelogic
    July 15, 2022

    The more tax companies pay his year and next the less they have to reinvest and the less incentive to invest. The result is lower tax receipts going forwards, fewer jobs and a far weaker economy. High (by government design) energy prices does similar huge damage.

    1. Hope
      July 15, 2022

      Interesting blog JR. Your govt approved the highest taxation in 70 years, what does it matter about what percentage one element/part makes? Secondly, your party approved govt spending, presumably that meant printing, borrowing and tax rises. Your manifesto set out spending and no tax rises, both reneged on.

      Your party and govt was going to balance the structural deficit changed time and again and booted into touch. How about Osborne’s tax rises versus cuts! That did not happen, the exact opposite was true.

      Your party cannot be trusted with the economy. Your party’s manifesto cannot be trusted at all. I have no doubt your figures are correct. I am not sure why you are so vexed. So a few percentages here or there seems rather irrelevant to me. The bigger picture shows me your party is toast because there is no way back in time for the next election. Trying to buy off those on welfare is not going to help but wind up the prudent, strivers, savers and those who just about mange (JAM) as your party labelled them.

      Corbyn appeared to have a better grasp of finance than Sunak! His magic money tree no where near as big either.

      Sunak or Mordaunt, Yuk, no thanks.

  8. Paul Edwards
    July 15, 2022

    Why do you not tell the truth?
    The tax rate changes in April 2023.
    Tax rate for company profits of £50009 remains at 19%
    Only when profits reach £250000 does the 25% apply.
    Some honesty might help us make an informed decision.

    1. Sir Joe Soap
      July 15, 2022

      Most companies investing from abroad would expect to make £250k profit. In Ireland they’ll pay 15% tax.

  9. Lifelogic
    July 15, 2022

    Announcing it in advance causes ever more needless harm.

  10. Ian Wragg
    July 15, 2022

    Because they are removers and labour supporters.
    Soonack is only following WEF guidance.

  11. Leslie Singleton
    July 15, 2022

    Dear Sir John–Whatever next?–Soon you are going to have to stick in an “of what?” in any mention of percentages.

    1. hefner
      July 16, 2022

      Indeed it is misleading to compare absolute with relative changes in figures, the same way he cannot continue with his GDP comparison figures without detailing whether they are GDP, GDP per capita, or GDP per capita PPP, or when comparing growth without specifying the exact period on which this figure applies.
      That should be the minimum from somebody elsewhere commenting on investments.

      People should be aware of politicians bringing figures in a dishonest way. The ‘hilarious’ bit is how badly he reacts when he is called to task.

  12. Sir Joe Soap
    July 15, 2022

    You have to ask why he did this?
    Is it
    1. to discredit Johnson and hasten his demise?
    2. to curry favour with future handlers, such as Biden, elites abroad?
    3. to deliberately hobble investment here, for reasons unknown?

    Or ise he just a dolt?

  13. Alice
    July 15, 2022

    Interestingly, Sir Patrick Vallance yesterday was promoting World Economic Forum policies on Net Zero and climate change to MPs.

    Just in time to influence the leadership election to ensure that World Economic Forum policies prevail and that their candidate wins the contest!

    Sir Patrick Vallance was wildly wrong on covid so why does anyone listen to him?

    1. DavidJ
      July 15, 2022

      +many

  14. Bloke
    July 15, 2022

    Some critics are naïve or just have a different perspective.
    Many of the critics here seek to oppose SJR in whatever devious way they can muster.
    They take advantage of his openness.
    He has the power to silence them, yet he holds their Freedom of Speech higher with his personal quality of moderation.

  15. Donna
    July 15, 2022

    Possibly because they’re innumerate. Or more likely, because they believe that “their truth” is more important than the facts.

    A Prime Minister Sunak will be a disaster for the CONs of the John Major variety. He’s the lefty Establishment’s choice and is promising to deliver “more of the same” failed policies we’ve had stuffed down our throats since Blair entered No.10. He even sounds like Blair.

    His personal circumstances (mega-wealthy, Green Card holding Globalist with a Non Dom wife) will doom him …. along with his track record of breaking Manifesto promises.

    We need change and reform; not a Goldman Sachs trained, continuity-Blair wannabe.

    1. DavidJ
      July 15, 2022

      Indeed Donna. Time for people to waken up to the threat posed by the globalists.

  16. formula57
    July 15, 2022

    Your critics perhaps belong to the part of the population that does not “do” percentages or even sums.

  17. Shirley M
    July 15, 2022

    Sunak is not fit to be Chancellor, never mind PM, but if the CONS MP’s wish to destroy their party, along with the damage he has done to the UK, then they should go ahead and keep pushing him onto the public and showing us how incompetent they are by promoting an economic ignoramus who doesn’t seem all that caring about the UK he is supposed to serve. He and Boris are a fine pair of demolition experts.

    1. Hope
      July 15, 2022

      +1

    2. DavidJ
      July 15, 2022

      +1

  18. James1
    July 15, 2022

    Sad to say that a number of your critics not only have a fundamental lack of basic economic principles (i.e. “good” economics as opposed to “bad” economics), they are lacking in basic arithmetic.

    1. Mark B
      July 16, 2022

      Go on, enlighten us ?

  19. Old Albion
    July 15, 2022

    Sir JR. I’m sure there are some who come here simply to criticise. However the instance you highlight was a little confusing in how it was presented. I think this led to some of the negative comments.

  20. peter
    July 15, 2022

    At last you have explicitly stated what I am sure most on here think.

  21. Roger Parkin
    July 15, 2022

    They are the same people who think the referendum was only won by 4% instead of the actual circa 8%.

  22. boffin
    July 15, 2022

    Singapore now reporting Q2 growth 4.2% YoY.
    Speaks for itself.

  23. Narrow Shoulders
    July 15, 2022

    Not a fan of Mr Sunak for leader I am guessing Mr Redwood.

    I am unable to find out who you do support Sir John. Is there a reason why?

    The free market side of the party is struggling to coalesce behind a candidate, do you see this letting two more interventionist and authoritarian candidates go to the party for a vote or do you think when it comes down to three all will be well?

  24. DOM
    July 15, 2022

    2 + 2 = 5

    Truth and logic no longer matter, only power

  25. beresford
    July 15, 2022

    Ms Braverman made the mistake of suggesting doing something about immigration, and the rest of the MPs said ‘Oh no you don’t’. Whether or not she was sincere is another matter. They now seem to be manoeuvering to present the membership with a choice between two Rejoiners who will do nothing to disconnect us from the EU and prevent later reunion.

    1. Hope
      July 15, 2022

      +1
      Braverman wanted to get rid of ECHR which meant leaving EU and being in control of immigration. To keep it means public can be lied to and keep hope alive of rejoining EU.

      1. Julian Flood
        July 15, 2022

        The ECHR is not an EU organisation, it is a different cooperation between European countries. I expect Ms Braver an is aware of that.

        JF

        1. Julian Flood
          July 15, 2022

          Braverman.

          JF

        2. X-Tory
          July 15, 2022

          The ECtHR is part of the CoE, not the EU, BUT the EU has a rule that a country MUST sign up to the ECtHR in order to join and be a member of the EU. So it is absolutely true to say that to leave the ECtHR we had to leave the EU.

  26. Bryan Harris
    July 15, 2022

    Sunak does want to raise company tax by 31%

    Indeed – but don’t forget how many come on here just to cause aggravation, and there are plenty of other issues that badly need discussing.

    It’s important for everyone to understand the resulting issues of a heavy tax raising federalist should he ever make it to #10.

    We hear the other candidates suggesting tax cuts and a reversal of HMG policies, but how will that work out, given that they supported tax raises and most of the other policies now allegedly being binned?
    Are they so fickle?

    Let’s not get distracted by side issues, because while there are several ways of looking at who actually runs this country, the main thing I want known about is the degree of adherence by the remaining candidates to WEF policies.

  27. Richard1
    July 15, 2022

    It seems mr Sunak favoured tax rises as he was unable to restrain out of control spending driven by Boris Johnson and supported by almost all other ministers. That’s reasonable enough as a tactic. After all with a dumb idea like spending £100bn on hs2 – apart from anything else it could stop working at any moment if the workers decide to blackmail to govt! – what else was he to do? Sunak was the one to face down the shroud-wavers on lockdown – it seems he was by far the strongest on this, though Boris now claims the credit. He is a more credible as PM than Truss and more likely to beat the leftists and separatists at the next election. Mordaunt is clearly not credible.

    So assuming the refreshingly honest and sensible Kemi Badenoch is knocked out, it seems Sunak is the best choice. Unless you want a left-nationalist coalition followed by PR etc

  28. ColinB
    July 15, 2022

    Keep going, Sir John. You are the most clued up MP I have ever heard and possess a great deal of common sense. I guess that comes with experience and actually having done the job previously in Cabinet. I am sure you have lots of supporters on this website. As is usual in life the detractors are always more vocal and without credible alternative policies.

  29. MFD
    July 15, 2022

    Because it is not their twisted agenda Sir John!

  30. agricola
    July 15, 2022

    19 divided by 100 = 1% or 0.19
    25 divided by 0.19 =131.5789
    Difference between £19 (100%) and £25 = 31.6%
    For simplicity and lack of exaggeration call it 31%
    In premiership electoral terms it is a whopping increase. For the benefit of industry, all those who work in it and the country as a whole I would prefer a reduction of a similar amount £6 to a corporation tax rate of £13. This would attract both internal and external investment such that the total corporation tax take from increased business activity could well exceed the current figure. It is called discounting to rapidly shift the barrow full of oranges that won’t last over a weekend. It results in the stall holder buying more fresh oranges for the following week. Simplistic maybe, but that is how commerce works.

  31. Peter Parsons
    July 15, 2022

    It’s not about arithmetic, it’s about presentation. If two sets of data are being presented and the intention is to compare between them, just present both in the same way. There is no reason (other than to attempt to influence the reader in a particular direction or lead the reader to a particular conclusion) not to.

  32. Bill brown
    July 15, 2022

    Sir JR

    This is of course not fair but we have caught you a number of times where the information or the data to put it mildly has been a bit shaky.

  33. Glenn Vaughan
    July 15, 2022

    “Why do you always criticise everything I say even when it means you seek to deny basic arithmetic?”
    It’s because some of the “contributors” to this website are too thick to calculate basic arithmetic correctly.

  34. hefner
    July 15, 2022

    If you were to reread what I wrote the other day you might get that I did not contradict your figures. I simply said that your Thatcher’s figures were absolute and your Sunak’s ones were relative, a common sleight-of-hand done in numerous companies end-of-year reports comparing different data sets usually done to bamboozle the shareholders.

  35. Mike Wilson
    July 15, 2022

    Whilst acknowledging that some people struggle with basic arithmetic, you must admit that it is easy to manipulate people if you choose one set of numbers over another.

    Why did your government put national insurance up by 10% recently?

    The rate of corporation tax is increasing by 6% – from 19% to 25%. This represents a 31% increase in the amount of corporation tax a company would pay on the same amount of profits.

    It’s how you – politically – choose to express things.

    I don’t think I am one of those who come to this site just to argue. I agree with a lot of the things said here. My main beef is with the obsession with growth instead of efficiency and with your government’s policies on housing and immigration. I’m all for small state and low taxes.

    1. wrinkle
      July 15, 2022

      ‘The rate of corporation tax is increasing by 6% ‘ That is wrong – it is increasing by 6 percentage points.

  36. Geoffrey Berg
    July 15, 2022

    It is an anomaly of Arithmetic that both views are correct just as ‘average’ can be ‘mean’ or ‘median’.
    As for an important political matter, now that the best candidate, Suella Braverman, in the leadership contest is out and Rishi Sunak is heading for the last two (though I can’t see him winning), the question is essentially who is the better (or less bad), Penny Morduant or Liz Truss.
    I doubt whether either is up to the job, intellectually and probably in practical terms, and I don’t trust Liz Truss to do what she promises. Yet the critical question is who would do better or less badly in the next general election.
    The problem with Penny Morduant is this. Though she would be a match for Starmer on a level playing field, the Conservatives will be on a very sticky wicket with an awful cost of living crisis and I doubt she is capable of fighting hard enough as Boris Johnson would have done and Liz Truss would probably do. Moreover Morduant cannot fight on the key social issue of transgenderism (having supported it herself). Of course that isn’t as important to people as the cost of living but whereas the man in the street does not understand economics, he does, however dim he may be, understand a man is not and cannot be a woman. That is much the best way to show the other parties are lunatic and hopefully most people whatever the difficulties won’t vote to let the lunatics take over the asylum. That is the Conservatives’ best chance.
    So Liz Truss it must be to give the Conservatives a chance at the general election.

  37. Dandaily
    July 15, 2022

    Great one Sir John. Who says you don’t have a sense of humour. I awaited those comments of bloggers, and they did come. They should watch more countdown.

  38. Atlas
    July 15, 2022

    Sir John,

    Yes, the correct application of basic arithmetic by Net Zero enthusiasts would help in forming a realistic energy policy as well…

  39. Berkshire Alan
    July 15, 2022

    Not just some of the bloggers on here John, seems to me that the vast majority of the population are incapable of completing simple mathematics, and find it impossible to do any sort of mental calculation when a calculator of phone is not to hand.
    Yet examination results suggest different, or are we deluding ourselves that education has improved, by lowering standards.

    1. wrinkle
      July 15, 2022

      Recently I had a look at an A Level maths tuition book in Smiths. I did A Level, pure and applied maths in 1957 and I was impressed at the high level now as some stuff was beyond what I did particularly the calculus.

      1. Berkshire Alan
        July 16, 2022

        Wrinkle
        How about the pass mark comparison then and now. ?
        In many subjects now you can still get an “A” pass with less than 50% of the questions being correct it is reported.

  40. Richard1
    July 15, 2022

    I know JRM and one or two other Boris loyalists feel Rishi has betrayed Boris. But they need to get real. I haven’t read boris’s book on Churchill yet, but perhaps it includes one of the great man’s most notable quotes “if [the leader] is no good he must be poleaxed”. Rishi could see that Boris, for all his qualities, was no good as PM as it turned out. So he had to be poleaxed. We need also to remember Ronald Reagan’s ‘11th commandment’: “thou shalt not speak ill of a fellow conservative”. It looks like Rishi will win. Of course we must encourage him to jack his bad policies and adopt good ones. But then we need less carping from ‘the right’ and get behind him so we can keep out the leftists and the separatists.

  41. FrankH
    July 15, 2022

    That’s one of the problems with percentages, many (maybe most) people don’t understand them so somebody who want to obfuscate can use them to do so. The tax rate goes up by 6%, the amount of tax paid increases by 31%, the politician can choose the number that suits his agenda.

    N.B. this is not criticism aimed at you, just an observation that people generally should be wary of percentages being bandied about.

    1. X-Tory
      July 15, 2022

      The problem is that people not only do not understand maths, but they also do not understand English! I hate it when people are either too STUPID or too SLOPPY to differentiate between ‘per cent’ and ‘percentage points’. So you are WRONG to say “The tax rate goes up by 6%” – NO, it goes up by 6 PERCENTAGE POINTS. Alternatively, as Sir John said, it goes up by 31 per cent.

      1. wrinkle
        July 15, 2022

        X-Tory – thanks for that so I don’t have to repeat myself.

  42. Denis Cooper
    July 15, 2022

    Off topic, is it really a good idea to have this 127% pro-EU chap:

    https://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2021/03/11/the-uk-single-market/#comment-1215238

    still chairing the Commons Northern Ireland Select Committee and chipping in with stuff like this:

    https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/uk/northern-ireland-affairs-committee-chair-simon-hoare-brands-former-brexit-negotiator-lord-frost-a-failed-minister-41841957.html

    “I don’t wish to be rude but who the hell is an unelected, failed minister to tell any MP what to do?”

    If he had been doing his job properly as an MP and as the relevant committee chairman the Northern Ireland “conundrum” could have been solved long ago.

  43. agricola
    July 15, 2022

    Electorally the most pressing problem is
    the cost of living. The first target should be the cost of fuel of which £0.45 in tax could be rsmoved at a stroke. It impacts on almost everything. Then think of VAT in terms of 15%, but removal in many cases. Finally have a total rethink of tax on the
    individual and business. Many aspects of double taxation should go completely, the rest should be simlified. Which PM candidate is likely to agree. It is time to be bold.

  44. Lifelogic
    July 15, 2022

    When are the 100+ Sunak supporters going to realise that Sunak cannot win in the Party Members vote and is a huge electoral liability with voters too. He can surely never come back from his police fine, the green card, NonDom tax avoidance, vast tax increases, his pushing of expensive energy net zero lunacy, his inflationary money printing, his vast manifesto ratting tax increases, his extended lock down, his endless wasting of tax payers money (HS2, eat out to help out, fraudulent covid loans, loans for worthless degrees and furlough…)

  45. Lifelogic
    July 15, 2022

    Matt Hancock now supporting Sunak. Hethinks he is the man to beat Starmer & Sturgeon “he has got what it takes” he says. Another nail in the coffin for Sunak.

    Hancock needs to speak to some real voters. The tax to death, manifesto ratter, net zero pusher, non dom wife tax avoider, green card Sunak would be a disaster at a general election – even against the dire Starmer & Sturgeon.

  46. Stred
    July 15, 2022

    It’s interesting that Conservative MPs have put ex bankers and wokeys in pole position and rejected the candidate who voted against tax rises and the green agenda. City corporations such as Lloyd’s Bank have warned against halting net zero such is their devotion to the WEF and green investments. The Party is for big green business.
    When the result of this folly becomes evident next winter and it can’t be blamed on Russia, the Party will be on the way out.
    How SJR Steve Baker and the few other sensible MPs can stomach being in the company of these con artists is a mystery.

  47. Cuibono
    July 15, 2022

    Is it to do with some global agreement that seeks to bring the average of all corporate tax up to about 24%?
    They want to stop cross border profit sharing whatever that might be ( like in Ireland maybe?)
    So presumably Sunak is having global longings again.

  48. Jackie
    July 15, 2022

    Because you’re a blockhead and inclined to put a spin on things that a lot of us know not to be true, and certainly not the full truth – just morelike Toryisms or ERG speak mzntra- so myself am looking forward one way or another to next PM ditching all of that old claptrap – like ‘taking back control’ etc – also looking to someone who is going to put Lord Frost back in his box – a loose cannon he has caused enough trouble for us – anyway change is going to come one way or another – you could call it a restoration of values and a return to old fashioned decency – I hope.

  49. Lynn Atkinson
    July 15, 2022

    Can we afford a war with a superpower much less with 2? I want a PM who know how to mind her own business!

  50. Peter Aldersley
    July 15, 2022

    This is why finance people talk about “basis points” to describe changes in interest rate percentages. The fact is there is a fundamental difference between a rate and a number.

  51. Dr Me
    July 15, 2022

    Sir John, keep up the good work. Some would claim hot was cold… black was white. First comment here, usually I just read.

    You are indeed correct and, as a business owner, I would prefer lower corporation taxation, not higher, so we can invest further and keep wages matching reality. I thought the plan was to lower taxes and boost the economy.

  52. XY
    July 15, 2022

    I’m not someone who criticises much that you say at all, but in this case the concern was that the “up by 31%” was different to the other figures, which were stated in terms that would be the equivalent of “up 6%”.

    This piece shows that they’re getting under your skin. Please don’t let that happen.

    I’m guessing you don’t read many other sites with political commentary available to the public (you probably wouldn’t have time), but there has been a massive upsurge in anti-UK, pro-EU comments and accounts since Brexit (strange that it didn’t happen in the run-up to the referendum – why wait until it’s over?). And that’s happening across all sites.

    It’s not clear how many are genuine UK people – some high-volume posters on newspaper sites have been “outed” as EU MPs! But there’s also a known Russian disinformation factor at work, a “troll factory” has been shown to exist in St Petersburg and these people post on all the UK political sites (all of it utter claptrap, designed to annoy people and get them angrily posting something that would get them banned). This is all part of Russian “hybrid warfare”.

    Since you read all posts here, you can filter – you’re not obliged to allow their posts through to appear on the site, so my suggestion would be to proactively filter out more drivel than is currently the case. It would make the site look less busy, but it may be a better refelction of the level of real engagement if the “grief posters” are filtered out?

    Hope this helps.

  53. Bill
    July 15, 2022

    Perhaps they were “educated” under the Blair regime? Whereby everyone should have had a chance to go to Uni but subject matter was irrelevant.
    Thus those with a severe lack of mathematical knowledge could study TVs ‘Coronation Street’ instead. It’s so essential and very useful on a CV for a job requirement of intelligence, of course.

  54. glen cullen
    July 15, 2022

    Could someone in government please tell the BBC weather to stop reporting ‘end of days’ heat-wave this Monday & Tuesday

    1. Berkshire Alan
      July 15, 2022

      They have already convinced Mp’s Portcullis House it is reported is going to be Closed Monday and Tuesday, as it’s going to be too hot to work.
      I wonder what would happen if private industry did the same.
      Has anyone has told Russia it’s too hot to attack Ukraine.

    2. MFD
      July 15, 2022

      👍🏻We will decide, not BBC and their lefties.
      Do your own thing guys

  55. X-Tory
    July 15, 2022

    Just spent an hour and a quarter watching the candidates debate on ConservativeHome. What a bloody waste of time. Nothing but waffle, waffle, waffle from ALL of them. No concrete pledges, no details, nothing about illegal immigrants, HS2, net zero or Northern Ireland. On taxation there were no specific tax rates promised. Frankly there was nothing to inspire me about ANY of them. I was hoping there would be one I could pin my hopes on, but no. What a useless shower. Sir John, you know them best – who are you supporting, and why?

  56. DavidJ
    July 15, 2022

    So Sunak is just another member of the tax and squander brigade. We need better.

  57. Julian Flood
    July 15, 2022

    Talking of understanding numbers…

    Before being called to speak in climate debates, MPs should answer the following question:

    Why is it stupid to try saving energy by decreasing the power of an electric kettle from 3 to 2kilowatts?

    JF

    1. Mark B
      July 16, 2022

      You don’t save energy but you do reduce the load on the network and reduce the size of the spikes.

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