Part 2 of my interview with the Chairman of the Campaign for an Independent Britain

Please find below part 2 of my interview with the Chairman of the Campaign for an Independent Britain. We discussed topics such as the next government, energy, housing:

51 Comments

  1. Lifelogic
    August 11, 2022

    Indeed all sensible points.

    Allister Heath today all rather depressing but alas true:- ā€œThis is the horrifying truth behind the coming collapse of basket-case Britain. The political climate is veering hard-Left thanks to 20 years of short-termism and state failure. Looming power cuts, rocketing bills, water shortages, dysfunctional public services, sky-high taxes, a failing economy: Britainā€™s slide into crisis, our staggering, seemingly accelerating decline is tragic yet unsurprising. We are nearing the end game, the final dĆ©nouement, of a quarter-century of political, intellectual and moral failure in which most of our political class has been complicit.ā€

    So Kwasi and Zahaawi are to have talks with the energy industry on the costs of energy. But this is a problem caused by government net zero lunacy and government rigged energy markets. Minister blowing up coal power stations and restricting, mining, fracking, drillingā€¦ Kwasi a bright but scientifically/energy illiterate history graduate wittering on about becoming the Saudi Arabia of wind and similar on Spectator podcasts and articles. Put Lilley and Matt Ridley types in charge please.

    1. Gary Megson
      August 11, 2022

      Hard-left? This country has been run by the Conservatives for the last 12 years, and for 30 of the last 43 years. Whatever is wrong with this country is the fault of the Conservative Party. Will you ever take repsonisbility instead of blaming others?

      1. Lifelogic
        August 12, 2022

        The Tories are indeed veering to the left hence we have the highest taxes for 70+ years.

  2. Lifelogic
    August 11, 2022

    Indeed all sensible points.

    Allister Heath today all rather depressing but alas true:- ā€œThis is the horrifying truth behind the coming collapse of basket-case Britain. The political climate is veering hard-Left thanks to 20 years of short-termism and state failure. Looming power cuts, rocketing bills, water shortages, dysfunctional public services, sky-high taxes, a failing economy: Britainā€™s slide into crisis, our staggering, seemingly accelerating decline is tragic yet unsurprising. We are nearing the end game, the final dĆ©nouement, of a quarter-century of political, intellectual and moral failure in which most of our political class has been complicit.ā€

    So Kwasi and Zahaawi are to have talks with the energy industry on the costs of energy. But this is a problem caused by government net zero lunacy and government rigged energy markets. Minister blowing up coal power stations and restricting, mining, fracking, drillingā€¦ Kwasi a bright but scientifically/energy illiterate history graduate wittering on about becoming the Saudi Arabia of wind and similar on Spectator podcasts and articles. Put Lilley and Matt Ridley types in charge please.

    Heath correctly concludes:- Liz Truss called one of her daughters Liberty, and genuinely understands and likes free markets. She is the last chance to reverse this mad dash down what Hayek called the Road to Serfdom. She needs a short-term strategy to survive the cost-of-living crisis, with financial help for households on below-average incomes, while launching a blitz of truly radical, pro-growth reforms and bolstering the supply of energy. Ms Truss will need to be as strong and as determined as her hero Mrs Thatcher, for the ferocity of the opposition will be like nothing this country has seen since the 1984-85 minersā€™ strike.

    1. turboterrier
      August 11, 2022

      Lifelogic
      Sadly pal you are so right about the opposition rising. I never thought in my life time so many people would be talking about taking to the streets. What is the biggest worry is when the talking stops. It will only take a few die hard activists to manipulate the situation and everything will come out into the open warts and all.

    2. The Prangwizard
      August 11, 2022

      I have a copy of Road to Serfdom. This title and similar must be retained by anyone holding them and bought by anyone who doesn’t, before the dangerous people in high levels in academia and elsewhere succeed in withdrawing access to them and eventually having them banned.

      We live in a growing oppressive society condoned by government and all its elite global friends. Liz Truzz will need to be courageous and determined to save our freedoms. Lets hope her supporters are prepared to put their heads above the parapet and not just hand bullets for her to fire.

    3. MFD
      August 11, 2022

      I totally disagree with this continuing action of passing tax payers money freely to as you put it, households with below average incomes. It promotes lazy peope who will always hold their hand out instead of knuckling down and working like most people do, i also find that those who are always begging for more are ones less careful what they spend our money on.

      If you need more money cut back on your spending and work harder !

      1. margaret
        August 11, 2022

        That is Orwellian .. and has us all to the knackers yard.. Personally I have never had the need for much material stuff .I just want enough, but they say enough is relative. At the age of 71 yrs due to the cost of living I have professionally re registered to continue for 3 more years due to the cost of living. There has to be something better.
        Kind Regards
        Boxer

        1. margaret
          August 11, 2022

          My dad used to say ” An elegant sufficiency of enoughness” is our lot.

          1. glen cullen
            August 11, 2022

            Wise Words

      2. unprovoked
        August 11, 2022

        This is a provocateur post to liven up the debate.
        Other posts to look out for are piece rate replies to posts hoping to start a string.

      3. Fedupsoutherner
        August 11, 2022

        MFD. You’ve got a point there. Those on benefits will always get bailed out while the workers pay.

        1. a-tracy
          August 12, 2022

          FuS – my Dad used to say if they didn’t bail them out, they’d be robbing your local shops, your house and car, think of it as insurance.

    4. Mark
      August 11, 2022

      I was pleased to note that during the GBNews questions for Truss yesterday she volunteered that she would be immediately concentrating on improving energy supply, which is the only way to lower prices. Positive too that she supported development of our own resources and fracking. She might have said more and perhaps restrained herself for fear of upsetting green zealots (though her willingness to tackle the disruptive actions of the likes of XR was also a positive).

      She will need to tackle
      Shortages of dispatchable generating capacity, due to too much reliance on wind and interconnectors
      Willingness to maximise coal burn to save on gas use
      Support for global development of gas (and other fossil fuels) and suspension of the Carney/Biden ESG attitudes that are preventing the necessary investment around the world
      Establishing a cost effective nuclear plan in place of failed French EPRs
      Diverting investment from the expensive and unreliable wind and hydrogen plans
      Halting the attempted rush to electrification of transport and heat while we have inadequate capacity to fuel it and while the technology is inadequate and China dependent
      Aiming for competitive energy markets globally, not ones dominated by particular countries with strangleholds on supply

      1. glen cullen
        August 11, 2022

        Thereā€™s only one thing that will curtail the international energy oil & gas futures marketā€¦.and thatā€™s the reversal of the policies of net-zero & the climate change act

    5. Nottingham Lad Himself
      August 11, 2022

      Yes, Britain could technically be self-sufficient in food – a prerequisite for any claim to independence – but only if it nationalised all agriculture and brought in a command economy for its products – which I’m sure Sir John would just love, eh?

      Left to the markets and Tory open doors to cheap foreign food will simply see farmers go bust, produce only niche products, or use their land for riding school paddocks etc.

      1. Mickey Taking
        August 11, 2022

        or concrete over for more immigrant homes !

      2. Hat man
        August 11, 2022

        Not sure if nationalisation would be necesssary, lad, but we would certainly need the government to direct the situation as it did in 1940 under wartime conditions, sending inspectors round to ensure farms were being run efficiently and productively, according to national needs.

        That was a response to a dire emergency, and now we have another dire emergency. Let’s see if the next Tory PM understands just how serious it is, and also understands the buck stops on his/her desk.

      3. Peter2
        August 12, 2022

        Tens of millions of people starved due to the failures of nationalised agriculture in command economies NHL.
        PS
        UK agriculture isn’t a free market .
        It is in receipt of huge subsidies derived from the Common Agricultural Policy of the EU.

        1. hefner
          August 13, 2022

          Do you include Indiaā€™s Green Revolution under your examples of failed nationalised agriculture?

          1. Peter2
            August 14, 2022

            Well if it proves my point some more why not heffy.

        2. hefner
          August 20, 2022

          P2, youā€™re beyond redemption. You donā€™t know a thing, admit it.

      4. a-tracy
        August 12, 2022

        Ask the Romanians about nationalised farming!

  3. Lifelogic
    August 11, 2022

    Some daft Labour MP (a graduate of English I think) on the the radio just now talking about “hydrogen power”. Look mate we have no hydrogen mines and so no “hydrogen power” Hydrogen is just a very expensive, impractical, sometimes dangerous and hugely energy wasteful way to store energy. Essentially a poor quality and very expensive battery. It might have its uses in a few specialist areas but not very many.

    Needless to say he and the Labour are still sticking to the mad net zero religion. So if thousands of OAPs have to freeze to death for the sake of this insane war on plant food religion so be it they say.

  4. formula57
    August 11, 2022

    What new NATO defence commitments in eastern Europe? Why do we have to voluntarily assume the onerous task of pulling others’ chestnuts out of the fire.

    Liz would do well to summon both the Russian and Chinese ambassadors (a joint meeting to assist productivity since it would be the same message to each) and say we wish to sit out the next major war please.

    1. Philip P.
      August 11, 2022

      + 1
      We finally finished paying off what we owed our US creditor for military supplies in the World Wars in 2006, I believe. They were contracted at a time when we still had an empire to support our status in the world. No longer. We have neither the obligation nor the resources to fight foreigners’ wars now. Time to cut our coat according to our cloth.

      1. Mike Wilson
        August 11, 2022

        We are, apparently, a ā€˜rich nationā€™. We only owe 2 million, million pounds. Weā€™re loaded.

        Reply We owe most of that money to ourselves! We are relatively rich as measured by income stats. try living in Venezuela or North Korea if you do not believe this.

    2. Jamie
      August 11, 2022

      I absolutely agree and here we have Wallace today entering the fray again on our behalf not knowing where all of this is going to end up. If it goes wrong and I expect it will i hope that wallace will be the first to join up and in that way he can get a front seat up on the front line so he can have a good view of things and not bother the rest of us. More Tory idiocy

  5. glen cullen
    August 11, 2022

    The chancellor and business secretary meeting with energy providers today to find a solution to the incredibly high energy costā€¦.solution = more wind farms, more renewables, more greenā€¦but above all ā€˜wind farmsā€™ thats the answer ā€“ the UN said so

    In the news ā€“ the planned reopening of the Cumbria coal/coke mine has been put back to Novemberā€¦..pushing the can down the road while people freeze

    1. Fedupsoutherner
      August 11, 2022

      Glen it’s a scandal. Surely they cannot be that stupid? There is a game plan. No transport, no holidays, no energy and no meat. We will be happy.

      1. Mickey Taking
        August 12, 2022

        Daytime TV … is the answer!. if you can pay the licence fee.?
        And are not cut-off by your electricity supplier.

        1. glen cullen
          August 12, 2022

          Youā€™re becoming a philosopher

  6. majorfrustration
    August 11, 2022

    Agree. Throwing money at the problem is about as creative as any Government gets – little or no brains to see the real problem which is supply. Its the supply side stupid

  7. Mike Wilson
    August 11, 2022

    Could you have been less convincing on immigration? A quarter of a million a year!
    WHY?!!

  8. glen cullen
    August 11, 2022

    20 thousand illegal immigrants crossing the channel and another 20 thousand Ukraine refugees now having to be re-homed by councils with another 47 thousand Ukrainian refugees coming to end of term, plus another 30 odd thousand refugees/immigrants currently in hotels awaiting council accommodation ā€¦.what chance a young UK family getting a council flat ?

  9. 24c today
    August 11, 2022

    I find the Global Boys are as bad at communicating as the Nation State Boys.
    A lot of the ideas ( both sides) may be logical but the implementation so far has been a disaster.
    The disaster stems from secrecy, compartmentalisation and conflation.

    1. 24cToday
      August 12, 2022

      Heard a very good communicator this morning on R5.
      James Bevan CEO Environment Agency.
      One up for the Blob.

  10. Javelin
    August 11, 2022

    Does China still make uniforms for our military? How will the UK suddenly ramp up uniform production?

    1. glen cullen
      August 11, 2022

      Uniform still from China
      Ration packs from Thailand
      Aeroplanes, helicopters & nuclear weapons from USA
      Boots from Italy
      Vehicle from many countries
      Personnel from the commonwealth
      This list goes on….and some would argue command from USA (the button), NATO, UN & EU

  11. X-Tory
    August 11, 2022

    I lost count of the number of times you said “We need to …”, indicating that the government needs to change course. I agree, but have no confidence that the next Conservative government will do any of these things. After all, no Tory PM has got it right so far, so why should we trust you any more?

    On illegal immigration you are unusually mealy-mouthed, saying the “We need to look again at the legal framework” and we “may need further legal change” to create a “lawyer-proof system”. But you fail to understand (or appear not to do so) that as long as we abide by the rulings of the ECtHR we will NEVER be able to deport those who come here illegally. We need to openly and clearly derogate from this court. We can say that we will continue to abide by the ECHR itself – the Convention – but that this will ONLY be justiciable by BRITISH courts, not the one in Strasbourg (the ECtHR). This will get around the problem that the ECHR is mentioned in both the Belfast Agreement and the UK-EU TCA.

    1. glen cullen
      August 11, 2022

      Great post X-Tory

    2. Fedupsoutherner
      August 11, 2022

      X TORY. The latest scam us Albanians claiming they are victims of the slave trade in their country. The ECHR will protect them. When is someone going to have the guts to wipe the floor with this crap?

      1. glen cullen
        August 12, 2022

        +1

  12. Mickey Taking
    August 11, 2022

    The request is expected to come shortly as Scottish ministers struggle to cope with the influx of Ukrainian refugees. Sturgeon’s Ukraine Super Sponsor scheme has caused problems as her government consider making a request for British Army assistance. The formal request is known as a Military Aid to Civil Authorities (MACA) and allows the devolved government to request armed forces support in times of need.It was understood to relate to the housing of Ukrainian refugees as ministers struggle to cope with the influx arriving each week.
    Around 1,200 are arriving every week in Scotland under Sturgeon’s scheme, but the Scottish Government are struggling to find accommodation to house them. Hundreds of refugees have begun being housed in the MS Victoria cruise ship docked at Leith, in Edinburgh, alongside hotels across the country.
    The news comes just weeks after the Scottish Government paused their super-sponsor scheme with less than 48 hours notice.

    1. glen cullen
      August 11, 2022

      and our UK government wont put the brakes on the scheme….what would the UN say
      75,000+ Ukraine refugees, increasing daily, and you know 99% will never return

  13. OAP54
    August 11, 2022

    Any idea how much the State Pension is going up in April ?
    With my 1972 Certificate in Arithmetic I have worked out that if Rishi’s
    “Handouts” together with the Warm Homes Discount (Ā£100 ) takes those
    with no pension credit through till April. My rise will need to be Ā£1,008
    p/a assuming no further electric increases.

    1. Mike Wilson
      August 11, 2022

      Ā£4200 on gas and electricity. Ā£300 on water (bargain!). Ā£2500 on council tax. Well, thatā€™s the state pension taken care of. Who needs food? Food is for wimps.

      Reply Which is why there are other monies from the state for pensioners who have no private pension or savings

      1. a-tracy
        August 12, 2022

        John, it is a proper cheek for public sector final salary pension people to expect people to spend all their emergency savings that may be required for a new roof, a car, expensive plumbing fix, a new sink or carpet, your people making decisions on who can have a handout get a GUARANTEED income for the pension stage of your life, no worries at all, you do not have to keep a nest egg for a rainy day, an injury that means you need to pay carers and because you have Ā£20,000 in a savings bond and just a pension of Ā£4160 per year + Ā£9700 for your husband you get nowt.

      2. hefner
        August 12, 2022

        Reply to reply: It is not as easy as your comment suggests, Sir John,. Have you ever personally apply to DWP for one of these ā€˜other moniesā€™. I guess not.
        Apart from having no saving nor private pension, one has to be born before 06/04/1951 for a man, 06/04/1953 for a woman, then to fulfil a number of criteria for eligibility (in terms of past/present earnings, whether one has been caring for children or a disabled relative, having a illness or disability).
        gov.uk ā€˜Additional state pensionā€™

  14. am
    August 11, 2022

    A quite frankly brilliant interview by our host.
    Only one thought was that he should extend net zero date to 2070. Of course it would not be political astute to do so at this time.
    I can’t think of anyone more suitable a chancellor than him. Indeed he might be the only one able to win the next election by a combination of compassion for those less able to get through the cost of living crisis and strategic thinking for the best way forward.

  15. Iago
    August 12, 2022

    So, what’s the real number of the population? The census result has not been released, I believe.

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