Wokingham proclaims the new King

I attended the Proclamation in Wokingham marketplace on Sunday.

The Mayor read the Proclamation from the Accession Council to a large crowd who had gathered in the sunshine.

I spent time talking to people after the event. We were all feeling the bitter sweet nature of the occasion. There was great and continuing sadness over the death of a much admired and respected Queen. There were good wishes and hopes for the new King.

Those who stood patiently to the side of the Town Hall had been unable to hear the address but took it in good spirit and were pleased to have witnessed the event. Many wanted to talk to me about the Queen and some had heard my tribute in the Commons where I tried to pass on my understanding of the love and professionalism the Queen displayed in her many visits and ceremonies. They wanted to know more about the sovereign we have lost.

There was general optimism about Charles III and an understanding of the important role a monarch can play at the head of our democratic system of government. In good times and bad the Queen could speak about the things that unite us.

37 Comments

  1. Lifelogic
    September 12, 2022

    “There was general optimism about Charles III”

    Good, let us hope he performs well and keeps his hugely misguided and absurdly hypocritical climate alarmist views, his many spider letters on planning issues and similar things to himself. It is a great shame we already know these views though.

    1. miami.mode
      September 12, 2022

      On TV an interviewer asked him if he would continue with voicing his views after he became king and he smiled and responded, “Do you think I’m mad?” indicating he would keep his views to himself. The interviewer did not answer his question!

      This website has obviously changed in some subtle way because as well as correcting my spelling it is now also giving me the opportunity of correcting my grammar – the power of t’internet!

      1. Lifelogic
        September 12, 2022

        Well his ill-informed views on energy, CO2, climate alarmism, (GM crops & Quack medicine)… are indeed all rather mad. But on climate alarmism they are supported by all recents Prime Ministers, Truss & Kwasi (it seems) and the vast majority of MPs. Religion, belief systems and politics trumping sound science and engineering as usual. As we see with this pointless attempt to put people on the moon again – spend the money on sorting out practical fusion please.

        1. Hope
          September 12, 2022

          It is a bit late to say he will not comment as King because all those who come before will know exactly what he thinks and knows it will cause his displeasure to act to the contrary! The power of position and roles is too great to think anything else.

          JR, says govt will negotiate NI protocol as it is the preferred route! How long has this been going on? What about the no deal better than a bad deal! No ifs or buts, Brexit means Brexit, do or die type promises by different lying Tory leaders I suppose! Giving away N.Ireland and putting a border down the Irish Sea has never appeared a good deal to me, Johnson claimed this was not the case and no goods between GB and NI would be checked! Many commentators warned about it before the Tory govt sell out.
          Govt will tackle illegal immigration! What like cut immigration to tens of thousands promise, have camps in Syria, pay the French £200 million, or how about the points based system where the bar is set so low it is pointless having it!
          No tax rises says Truss, is this like the Johnson no tax rises?
          Perhaps we will get the right to recall of MPs promised or the Lothian question answered instead of betrayed?
          How long and how many times have these promises this been made and how many manifesto’s broken! I do not know how JR keeps a straight face when he repeats promises made by his party and govt over 12 years after the promises repeatedly broken. All the alleged current legislation when it was not required if the bad deal was rejected as it ought to have been and May ousted from his party.

          1. Lifelogic
            September 13, 2022

            +1

    2. a-tracy
      September 12, 2022

      LL, I thought actually I don’t already know his views, so I looked a few up:

      1.He has advocated for the conservation of historic buildings and the importance of architecture in society. … A critic of modernist architecture.
      2.Charles has been known to champion social and charitable causes as heir to the throne.
      3.He is patron or president of more than 400 organizations, including golf, opera and military groups.
      4.Charles said he understood why groups like Extinction Rebellion were taking their protests to the streets. But he added: “But it isn’t helpful, I don’t think, to do it in a way that alienates people. So I totally understand the frustration, the difficulty is how do you direct that frustration in a way that is more constructive rather than destructive.”Asked if the UK government was doing enough to combat the climate emergency, the prince replied: “I couldn’t possibly comment.”

      Well, he may not be able to comment, but isn’t that something that Liz Truss needs to tell him, exactly what the Government has been doing to combat the climate emergency, as the UK has been doing a lot? As the new King, the next time he does comment on that question he will better informed.

      Someone called Sally Smith wrote:
      x. Prince Charles is “intolerant of “opinions contrary to his own” – well, that rather sounds like you, LL.

      1. Lifelogic
        September 12, 2022

        “Charles said he understood why groups like Extinction Rebellion were taking their protests to the streets” Indeed – perhaps because they are as daft, deluded, scientifically ignorant and in love with this new CO2 devil gas religion – just as he is?

        1. a-tracy
          September 13, 2022

          https://www.ipsos.com/en-uk/public-support-majority-net-zero-policies-unless-there-is-a-personal-cost

          “Frequent flier levies receive the highest levels of support at 68%, followed by pricing products to reflect how environmentally friendly they are, phasing out the sale of gas and coal boilers and electric vehicle subsidies, all on 62%. The least support is shown for a policy that would increase taxes on red meat and dairy, at 47%.”

          It seems people support things that they don’t have to pay for (frequent flyer taxes) or give up (meat, cheese and milk). I believe most people don’t even know what these people are trying to achieve, stupidly their throwing milk around will probably aid the cause against them.

      2. R.Grange
        September 13, 2022

        As monarch he should not comment on that question, A-tracy. It is politically sensitive. There should not be a ‘next time’.

        Nor should the King turn up at COP-27 like he did at COP 26, or hang out with Klaus Schwab at Davos. When answering a question fom a journalist about this, he very strongly rejected any such possibility in future.
        .

  2. Just passing by
    September 12, 2022

    I wouldn’t agree with everything said here – for instance I don’t think ‘first past the post’ is representative or very democratic nor do I think that the way Liz Truss has been promoted to top job is the best way for the rest of us – so we can do better but it can only come about with change – do turkeys vote for christmas? alas no! So unfortunately sometime in the future if will take massive unrest over something or other to start things off – unfortunately

  3. Nottingham Lad Himself
    September 12, 2022

    Charles has already hinted heavily that he would like to reform the monarchy along Continental lines – he does enjoy his private life after all.

    If so, then that would be a Very Good Thing.

    The question is, would the rest of the British Establishment let him?

    1. Mickey Taking
      September 12, 2022

      Perhaps most of us would like some reform to the monarchy, the numbers of relatives doing ‘jobs’ for the ‘firm’ that really do not need to be able to boast ‘By Royal Appointment’, nor attendance on various events.
      Even the lengthy Proclamation from the Accession Council needs to be consolidated and trimmed down. Poor William must have thought why on earth is all this needed? King Charles III looked slightly exasperated at times and was struggling to follow proceedings.

      1. miami.mode
        September 12, 2022

        Having to stand next to Gordon Brown and at times studiously trying to ignore him, Boris must have drawn the short straw or been late to the party.

        1. Mickey Taking
          September 13, 2022

          Almost everybody tries to ignore Gordon Brown, but Blair looked around perhaps hoping to find support? Anyway he got front row, he should be content with that.

  4. a-tracy
    September 12, 2022

    NLH where did the then Prince Charles say he would like to reform the monarchy along Continental lines?

    1. Mickey Taking
      September 12, 2022

      possibly private between him and Nottingham Lad Himself? Martin that should have remained confidential ! naughty !

    2. hefner
      September 13, 2022

      There was no mention of ‘continental lines’ in the following article:
      ibtimes.com, 28/12/2018 ‘Prince Charles plans to reform monarchy just like this royal, expert claims’.
      Otherwise (for it is worth) pakdailytv.com, 18/02/2022 ‘Prince Charles, Prince William working collectively to ‘reform’ monarchy’.
      thesun.co.uk 19/04/2021 ‘Prince Charles and William will lead royal submit to decide future of monarchy’.

  5. No Longer Anonymous
    September 12, 2022

    Let’s hope the King keeps his political views to himself as did his mother.

    Our present woes are down to a shortage of gas, it doesn’t matter how artificially cheap we make our gas if it is going to run out.

    Our vulnerability is because of Net Zero that only applies to little people. Net Zero that only applies to the little people is what Prince Charles advocated for. He now has to distance himself from what he said as Prince otherwise it will be a very short reign as King.

    1. No Longer Anonymous
      September 12, 2022

      PS, Abolish those political giants Jedward.

  6. Mickey Taking
    September 12, 2022

    World leaders due to attend the Queen’s state funeral have reportedly been asked to fly to the UK on commercial flights and travel to the service by coaches.
    I can imagine Biden waiting in line to board tourist class and once seated in between 5 rows of agents, being asked ‘chicken or beef?’

  7. rose
    September 12, 2022

    Why a Mercedes? The Duke of Edinburgh spent twenty years ensuring he was a conveyed in a Land Rover. Couldn’t Rolls Royce have made something suitable? The late Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother was conveyed in a Jaguar.

    1. Lifelogic
      September 12, 2022

      Rolls Royce cars are BMW and Bentley are VW are they not?

      1. Lifelogic
        September 13, 2022

        Range Rovers and Jaguars Tata.

  8. Mickey Taking
    September 12, 2022

    Returning to a regular theme:
    NHS bosses have been told to make sure patients can access care if GPs close on the day of the Queen’s funeral. NHS England has written to local bosses saying while GP services will be able to close on the bank holiday there needs to be enough out-of-hours care.
    The letter also asked for scheduled Covid booster care home visits to be carried out as planned.
    In another letter to hospitals NHS England said it expected a rise in patients not turning up for clinics.
    There have been reports of some hospitals in England and other parts of the UK cancelling routine treatments due to take place on the day of the funeral too.
    The letter to hospitals, signed by NHS England’s chief operating officer Sir David Sloman, said NHS trusts should also have a method to identify overseas visitors and have plans to manage them and make sure they are charged “appropriately”.

    1. a-tracy
      September 12, 2022

      Another good reason for the funeral to have been held on the Sunday.

      1. rose
        September 13, 2022

        The Scots wouldn’t permit that.

        1. a-tracy
          September 13, 2022

          Why Rose? The Scots don’t keep English shopping rules on Sunday, they can open all day long if they choose to.
          I’m told we only put the clocks back in October due to the Scots and their shorter days, but why don’t they just start school at 0930/1000 instead of 0900 and slightly change their working days in line with their short days? I read this would save a lot of wasted energy.

          1. rose
            September 13, 2022

            Because in Scotland, Sunday is the Lord’s Day. I agree it is weakening somewhat but not for a state occasion.

    2. Lifelogic
      September 12, 2022

      Why are they still pushing Covid boosters? Have they not studied the statistics properly?

    3. Hat man
      September 13, 2022

      Good to see some attempt on this site to discuss issues that matter, Mickey.

  9. Hack
    September 12, 2022

    Hope.. so here’s the thing about the border in Ireland, it was a British invention put there only one hundred years ago so it has only been in place a relatively short while and of course we know it was put there against the wishes of the vast majority of people on the island of ireland and that being the case when the border was in place it had a political side to it as well as an economic and geographic side and it also divided families. So what has happened now is that with the protocol and the new trading arrangement between UK and the EU the economic part of the British border has just been lifted up and put into the sea – the other layers of the border political and geographic remain in place – for the moment

    1. rose
      September 13, 2022

      The South broke away from the Union and made themselves into a separate country, a republic. Partition was not a British invention, any more than it would be if the Scottish National Socialists got their way and infllicted it on the rest of us.

      For the sake of those who didn’t go along with partition, we allowed all Irish people to enjoy the Common Travel Area, to reside in Britain, to use our welfare state, and to vote in our elections. We also bailed the Irish out when they needed it and stood up for them whenever they were being bullied by the EU, which we both joined on the same day – and we both refrained together from joining the Schengen Area.

      1. Jackie
        September 13, 2022

        Not so Rose- Sinn Fein won 75 seats out of 105 in the 1918 general election an overwhelming majority but this result was brushed aside by Lloyd George PM at the time and the London administration – who threatened all out war unless the Irish allowed a border. And as far as the Union is concerned going even further back to 1800 the common people had absolutely no say in any of this ‘the act of Union’- it was all done behind closed doors

        1. rose
          September 14, 2022

          On the other hand, it was only under the Union that “the Island of Ireland” was ever united.

  10. David Webb
    September 13, 2022

    Sir John, the “King” (who will never be accepted in the same way the Queen was owing to his constant peddling of Far Left causes) was reported today to be quizzing Sir Jeffrey Donaldson and Michelle O’Néill on the NI Protocol and Brexit. I suspect the “king” is a Remainer – and he may even seek to undercut Liz Truss at a delicate point in the negotiations with the EU. Etc ed Why did Sir Jeffrey even entertain the conversation with him? I would have told him firmly to stay out of politics. I hope I am proved wrong and the “King” Charles does not make some sudden comments supporting the EU/Irish line on NI, but this particular figure doesn’t deserve the benefit of the doubt.

    reply The King has made clear he will not interfere against the wishes of people and Parliament. The Queen assisted the peace process in ways government and Opposition wanted. The Commons has already passed a Bill aiming to resolve NI/GB trade issues unilaterally, created by the new PM and Home Secretary.It is important the King understands the Unionist position on these matters.

    1. rose
      September 14, 2022

      Yes, I understood from Sir Jeffrey’s expression that the King was asking his opinion, not lecturing him. It is important that he get the Unionist view first hand whenever he can as he will not get it from the BBC et al and quite a few Privy Counsellors may not be reliable.

  11. Hacked Off
    September 13, 2022

    Thanks you Rose, I agree with your comment in so far as the very kindly, warm and generous gifts for the English extended to the Northern Irish, but whilst it always oh so nice for our politicians to consider the good and advantages for peoples of other countries, I would like, just for once, if politicians would ask the English how they feel about it, and tell us what it might cost us!
    It seems to me that nobody has ever asked how the English felt about being tapped for taxes whether that be to to provide wealthy Scots compensation for their losses due to the Darien scandal, or the shocking inequities of the Barnet formula that sees the English subsidising parts of the UK, whilst having to ensure whines and meddling from those quarters.

    Did anybody ask the English how they felt about funnelling their cash to a part of Ireland, just because the Scots that originally settled there, didn’t want to be part of the Replublic?

    John I suppose you won’t allow this comment. Shame on you and a plague o the houses of our politicians that have betrayed the English through the centuries, and have treated us, and continue to treat us, as nothing more than amoebas fro which to extract taxes!

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