Muddle in the middle

Sir Keir Starmer wants people to think he is standing up to the Corbyn  left and this will make him ready to govern. He tells Mr Sunak he needs to stand up to his right to woo the elusive middle ground voters.

At the same time, revealing his own self serving intents to deceive, Sir Kier woos the very same so called right wing voters by pretending he now cares about excessive migration and accepts Brexit which he spent three years  fighting after the decision.

The advice to Mr Sunak to ignore the views of those who want to see the Brexit wins and want the government to take control of our borders is bad advice. I do not accept there is a simple right/ left split. If there is the  centre ground has been shifted massively to the left with all the Opposition parties in Parliament wanting higher taxes, more subsidies, price controls, more migrants, compliance with EU rules after departure, aggressive unilateral  pursuit of net zero, Wokeish  cultural attitudes and a belief that more public spending solves all ills.

What Mr Sunak needs to do to raise Conservative poll ratings from their recent extreme lows is to show he does mean business when he says he will bring down migration, end small boat crossings, lower taxes , deliver Brexit wins and restore the unity of the UK internal market. Sir Keir may need to reject the left but Mr Sunak needs to embrace millions of Conservative voters who currently think the government is not Conservative enough

 

219 Comments

  1. Mark B
    December 1, 2022

    Good morning.

    If there is the centre ground has been shifted massively to the left with all the Opposition parties in Parliament wanting higher taxes . . . etc

    These Opposition Parties may want this and that but, they do not have an 80 seat majority and no mandate from the electorate to have said policies. So why is the Conservative Party and government following their lead ? To answer my own question, they are not ! They are doing what they want to do. They are fully culpable and fully responsible for has, is and about to happen.

    Tony Blair and the EU are fully responsible for the Middle Ground. They, the EU, need compliant political parties that will not rock the EU boat and allow the EU to govern its member countries via their Civil Services’. It is just one giant bureaucracy. Having Middle Ground politics allows more freedom of movement and, over time, a shift to the Left and more State / EU.

    As for Labour and the Tories ? It does not matter who you vote for because you are going to get the same policies regardless. Why ? Because as we have seen, the Civil Service runs the show. So unless you are another Demonic Cummings who wants to shake up the C.S. you are not going to achieve anything. The C.S. like to EU does not like political, and by extension democratic, interference.

    And when the current Chancellor says “The adults have taken back control”, what he means by ‘adults’ is the EU. It is the language they used when they took over Greece and then Italy and installed their puppets.

    1. BOF
      December 1, 2022

      Mark B. Well said. The squatters in Downing St are puppets.

      1. Ian Wragg
        December 1, 2022

        Fishy doesn’t want to raise the polling numbers for the tories.
        He’s been pur there to make sure you lose at the next election. No bad thing in my book.
        You’ve wasted 12 years and achieved nothing, not even a proper Brexit like Bozo promised.
        If we’re to have socialism we may as well have the real thing. Destruction ans rebuild.

        1. Lynn Atkinson
          December 1, 2022

          I took that view in 1992 when the Tories implemented Maastricht. I voted Labour for nearly a quarter of a century trying to get the Tories back on track. Did not work then, will not work now. They have to be replaced man and boy.

          1. Hope
            December 1, 2022

            The bad advice excuse is utter rubbish. Tory govt’s since 2010 has deliberately employed former Labour ministers into govt, quangos and all influential groups! OBR riddled with them as Guido highlights, regulatory quangos, No.10 policy units as well as implementing and building on Labour key policies!

            Patricia Hewitt the latest in a long list which calls into question the purpose of Barclay, presumably because he was a leaver! Hunt is on a mission. Why JR and chums stand by is beyond belief.

        2. Hope
          December 1, 2022

          JR, what right has Heaton-Harris, N.Ireland secretary, got to threaten to cut the pay of other MPs in different parties because they do not agree with him and your govt caving in to EU on the N.Ireland protocol? This legislation was fast tracked through this week!

          1. Totalitarian tactics by your govt again.
          2. Acting in Favour of EU and against the national interest.
          3. Betraying the country again over sell out EU agreement.
          4. I thought MP pay independently assessed by an independent group?

          This is in exact opposite of manifesto and our vote to,
          leave the EU. Oust Sunak and Hunt now.

          1. glen cullen
            December 1, 2022

            +1

        3. Timaction
          December 1, 2022

          Reform is next. No more lies and deceit. Fool me once etc.

          1. Mickey Taking
            December 1, 2022

            They fooled you and us with Cameron, then May, finally we thought Johnson seems to know what is required. No – another abdication of trust. The latest roll of the Tory MPs dice, instead of the members’ wishes has consigned them to devastation aty the next GE.
            Voters will not forgive.

          2. Hope
            December 1, 2022

            JR,

            Currently Ben Habib, Lady Hoey etc. taking govt to court over N.Ireland protocol!!

            We were meant to have left! Snake and Hunt signing up to EU in many respects, why?

            Second highest tax hike in the world!!

        4. ignoramus
          December 1, 2022

          I think you are right about us needing Brexit wins. We need to keep support for Brexit up in the polls or we risk a backlash.

          Lower taxes would be great. As Truss demonstrated, it would be political suicide right now. And its not as if we can cut public services when half of them seem to be going on strike.

          I agree with Ian – though personally I don’t object to the word socialism, if that means focussing on the poor and vulnerable. The Conservative party is tired. It needs to retire and regroup.

          1. John Hatfield
            December 1, 2022

            The demise of the Truss administration following the mini-budget has been widely attributed to the market’s reaction to the expectation of unfunded borrowing occasioned by tax cuts and the fuel price cap.
            To the contrary: the market’s behaviour was quite clearly a response to the actions — and inactions — of the Bank of England, before, during and after the mini-budget.
            In brief, it was a fix.

          2. Hope
            December 1, 2022

            CPS in court case this week in papers because it challenged Bible as not relevant in modern society!! Beyond disgraceful but in accord with Tory cultural destruction of our society.

          3. ignoramus
            December 2, 2022

            John Hatfield,

            are you saying the demise of the Truss administration was a result of the BoE?

            I just can’t go along with that. She clearly brought it on herself by going alone without OBR forecasts (right or wrong) and going against Sunak’s advice that they would be inflationary and it was totally the wrong time for them.

            Anyway, tax cuts are out of the question until we get spending under control. Rethinking public services and particularly adult social care has to be the priority right now.

      2. MFD
        December 1, 2022

        I support that statement BOF, what have they done since getting the 80 seat go ahead from the electorate ?
        NOTHING JUST FAFFED ABOUT. we are still under the EU stick.

    2. Donna
      December 1, 2022

      Great comment: hammer and nail in perfect alignment.

    3. Cynic
      December 1, 2022

      The government do not represent the electorate. They carry on with their own agenda – not the one they promised in their manifesto.

      1. James 1
        December 1, 2022

        “Mr Sunak needs to embrace millions of Conservative voters who currently think the government is not Conservative enough.”

        The problem for the so called Conservative party is that there are now millions of Conservative voters who don’t think the Conservative party is Conservative at all.

        There are million more Conservative voters who don’t want To be embraced by Mr Sunak, They just want Mr Sunak and his government to stop their expropriation and get out of their way.

        1. SM
          December 1, 2022

          +10

        2. IanT
          December 1, 2022

          ” there are now millions of Conservative voters who don’t think the Conservative party is Conservative at all ” Absolutely!

        3. Timaction
          December 1, 2022

          Robbing us to pay for unemployed layabouts, legal and illegal immigrants, foreign aid, HS2, net stupid. Simply don’t care about the strivers. Thinking constantly about taking more from us whilst silencing our protests with more wokery.

          1. Hope
            December 1, 2022

            Now legislation for disruptive protests! That is the point of a protest!! Totalitarian swing again, what next Chinese tactics in policing and stop free speech by on line safety bill.

            Legislation this week to cut pay of opposing MPs, both male and female!! There might be single female MPs with this as only source of income! Coercive and controlling behaviour in plain sight yet govt will virtue signal same phrase for women against men!
            Presumably tactics okay to enforce EU control over us!! Tory socialists are out of control with no authority or mandate for current decisions and actions.

            Just get out!

          2. glen cullen
            December 1, 2022

            I still can’t quite make out what they do with all the tax they take from me ….apart from my bins being emptied every two weeks, I don’t see any benefit of such high taxes

      2. Bloke
        December 1, 2022

        Not enough washouts are dealt with properly.
        Parliament should cleanse itself from all the bad MPs: Drain the Swamp!
        Remove all the obstacles and other dangerous rubbish concealed below the murky surface.
        Enable high quality to flow back into freedom with healthy happy lives.

      3. HFClark
        December 2, 2022

        Evidenced by correspondence with my Conservative, greasy pole climbing, MP.
        Mind, now he’s reached ministerial level, he has £70k additional income to protect simply by following the Sunak/Hunt line and not thinking for himself. HC

    4. Lifelogic
      December 1, 2022

      Indeed.

      Allister Heath today:-

      “Britain is descending into chaos and the Tories are powerless to stop it
      Who governs the country? Not the Conservatives, who increasingly appear to have given up completely.”

      Starmer seem to think he is going to pay for things by charging VAT on school fees and abolishing Non Dom status. Both policies will cost far more than they raise and do huge economic harm, but Sunak does not even dare to point this out.

      1. Donna
        December 1, 2022

        The CONs were warned that Labour would continually pick the scab of Sunak’s Non Dom “problem.”
        They ignored it.

      2. a-tracy
        December 1, 2022

        Lifelogic, VAT on school fees should only be discounted to the maximum contributed to each child in the UK’s public sector education.
        For 2022-23, the DfE requires all local authorities to pass on at least
        £4,265 per primary school pupil, and
        £5,525 per secondary school pupil,
        27 Jan 2022 — On a per-pupil basis the total funding allocated to schools for 5-16 year old pupils, in cash terms, in 2022-23 was £6,970,

        Why should private students get more than public students get?
        So VAT on a £45,000k school = £9000 rebate.
        VAT up to £6970 is acceptable as the per-pupil rate.

        School funding statistics, Financial Year 2021-22https://explore-education-statistics.service.gov.uk › Plus the pupil premium https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/pupil-premium-allocations-and-conditions-of-grant-2021-to-2022/pupil-premium-conditions-of-grant-2021-to-2022-for-local-authorities

        1. Lifelogic
          December 1, 2022

          Because they pay for it and they already pay for the state system they do not use. Really the state should give everyone with children a voucher they can use and or top up with almost all schools private. IF you add VAT they will be paying four times over. Though many will not in reality as they will leave, educate abroad or use the state system. So it with cost the state far more.

          Why should some childre have better houses, cars, holiday… we need incentives to work hard what is the point if you do not?

          1. Hope
            December 2, 2022

            AT,
            It is parent choice.

            AT forgets the main resentments. Why should taxpayers pay for those children through mass immigration who have not contributed tax at all! Why should immigrants get parachuted into better schools than the people who lived in the local are all their lives?

            Education is not a luxury item but a legal requirement so should not attract VAT full stop. VAT is an EU construct so should be abolished now the UK has left.

            In relation to PAN and related Phil premiums numbers some schools exclude to improve their attainment record and keep the premium!

          2. a-tracy
            December 2, 2022

            We all pay for the State system, some people have no children but they still pay for everyone’s education because it benefits all of us to have a well educated population (whether they are getting that good education is debateable, never have children been so mentally unstable, the anxiety that is put on children now at school, by teachers, professors and social media is damaging.

            Most private education is under £35,000 per year and would result in VAT less than £7000 which should be exempt because as I said they are saving the state that cost by not educating them in the State system.

        2. Hope
          December 1, 2022

          Why should EU students get free education at our universities and English students a life time of debt!! Both Labour and Tory guilty of it. Starmer needs to answer! Cameron, May, Johnson and Sunak as well.

          This time JR perhaps you ask them.

          1. hefner
            December 2, 2022

            universitiesuk.ac.uk ‘Changes for EU students in the UK: FAQs on fees, iimigration, Erasmus+’, 19/08/2021. Not quite what you say, Hope.

          2. a-tracy
            December 2, 2022

            Hope, they shouldn’t, especially not since 2016. Just how many Rest of the World students get tuition free or with UK student tuition loans? There could be an agreement where UK students wanting to study in Europe (and there would be no fee an equivalent number can study in the UK for free.). Which is why I think Scotland has to give a totally free education because their students get it in the EU.

            The fact English students only in the Union have to pay is a big bug bear of mine, don’t get me started. My eldest on a Plan 1 has paid his full tuition and maintenance loan back in full. My plan 2 children have no chance of ever repaying in full, the interest is too high so its a graduate tax for them of 9% for 30 years.

        3. Narrow Shoulders
          December 1, 2022

          The pupils going to private schools are saving the state £6970 a-tracey. They are not being given £9,000.
          If pupils move from private to state education in numbers because the fees jump 20% it will be the taxpayer who has to fund the cost.

          Education is exempt from VAT. Or do you expect university students to borrow 20% more?

          Careful what you wish for

          1. Hope
            December 2, 2022

            A totally ridiculous argument from AT.

          2. a-tracy
            December 2, 2022

            Yes I know they save the state, that’s why I said the cost they save the state should be the VAT free amount, most schools charge less than £35,000 pa anyway don’t they?

          3. a-tracy
            December 3, 2022

            Hope, Michael Gove is talking about VAT on school fees. It’s not just Labour people wanting to to do this.
            They will do it, the class warriors don’t care if it crashes private education because they can’t access it and the networks of opportunity it leads to (from the ‘who you know’ connections made). I’m just attempting to mitigate.

            They like to think that putting intelligent and rich kids in normal schools forces up the average education of everyone, the cleverest get made baby-sitters for the worst behaved in the hope that their good manners and behaviour washes off, it doesn’t. I know personally and from my children’s trials and tribulations.

      3. Mickey Taking
        December 1, 2022

        They may cost – but some things are a moral stand.

    5. Peter
      December 1, 2022

      Sunak and Hunt? The lads are not for turning.

      The Conservative Party will neither stop them, nor boot them out.

    6. Ian B
      December 1, 2022

      @Mark B +1

    7. Mike Stallard
      December 1, 2022

      And who got rid of Dominic Cummings?

      1. IanT
        December 1, 2022

        Dominic Cummings did Mike. Don’t pick fights with powerful people and then do stupid things and lie about it, because they will use your arrogance to get rid of you.

      2. a-tracy
        December 1, 2022

        The Media and Boris ultimately.
        Big mistake, big.
        Reform should hire him.

      3. Clough
        December 1, 2022

        Cummings made too many enemies, not least Sajid Javid back in early 2020. Then he got involved in a row affecting his aide Lee Cain, who got on the wrong side of another aide, Allegra Stratton, who worked for… Rishi Sunak. So that’s two ministers he antagonised. And of course, he made the fatal mistake of criticising She-who-must-be-obeyed Carrie Symonds. Plus his attitude to them antagonised the whole civil service just about.

        Cummings seems to have thought he led a charmed life, and didn’t realise that making sure to be constantly schmoozing people that matter is 9/10ths of politics.

        1. rose
          December 3, 2022

          Two things I liked about Cummings: he got rid of about seven or so permanent secretaries, including the Big Cheese himself; and he and Cain stopped Ministers going on Today, Newsnight, and Channel Four. It was well worth their saving all that time.

    8. Chris S
      December 1, 2022

      +1

    9. Lifelogic
      December 1, 2022

      “IF there is the centre ground has been shifted massively to the left with all the Opposition parties in Parliament wanting higher taxes, more subsidies, price controls, more migrants, compliance with EU rules after departure, aggressive unilateral pursuit of net zero, Wokeish cultural attitudes and a belief that more public spending solves all ills.”

      This is certainly the Tory agenda. They got all the big things wrong.

  2. DOM
    December 1, 2022

    Anyway who understands the contemporary Labour party will understand it is today utterly immoral, evil and without human concern and yet the Tories are unable to exploit Labour (and the unions) recent history of barbarity.

    We all suffer from the rank ignorance and moral weakness of the Tory party simply because Labour is again allowed to portray itself as something that it isn’t ie the party of humanity and compassion, allowing it back into power to inflict more damage upon us. Well, we all know that the Tories can expose Labour’s vileness and we all how they can do it but refuse to do so

    I have no doubt that the Tory party’s decision to embrace Labour’s woke progressive, Maoist agenda will split the UK apart and cause irreparable damage to the certainty and solidity of our nation.

    Both main parties are utterly abhorrent with an even more virulent strain in Scotland. We are utterly condemned by this Maoist insurrection

    1. Ian B
      December 1, 2022

      @DOM as ‘turboterrier belo those in this Government are not and they have demonstrated time time again they are not Conservatives

    2. Nottingham Lad Himself
      December 1, 2022

      That’s a mighty strange optician that you appear to use…

      1. Fedupsoutherner
        December 1, 2022

        We can see through you fine Martin.

  3. turboterrier
    December 1, 2022

    This government is just not Conservative full stop.

    1. Mickey Taking
      December 1, 2022

      ‘search and ye shall find’, except we searched to no avail.

    2. glen cullen
      December 1, 2022

      And that’s the whole shebang in a nutshell

  4. Christine
    December 1, 2022

    Sunak doesn’t care about the UK or your party. He is a globalist who works for a higher order and is only interested in lining his own family’s pocket.

    What a mess you politicians have got the country into. Nobody voted for mass immigration and the net zero nonsense that you have imposed upon us. Parliament should be ashamed of itself.

    1. Mike Stallard
      December 1, 2022

      Christine, I wonder when you last met the Prime Minister or his wife? What did they say to you that gave you that impression?

      1. Donna
        December 1, 2022

        How could she possibly meet the Prime Minister? He admitted years ago that he didn’t know any working class people and you only have to watch him: he’s in his comfort zone when he’s hob-nobbing with Macron, Trudeau, Zalensky …. and his other WEF buddies …. and has zero interpersonal skills when it comes to Joe Public.

      2. Ian B
        December 1, 2022

        @Mike Stallard. There are many things he does and says, that confirm that view. The PM’s views are demonstrated daily to be the same as the requirements of the World Economic Forum(WEF).

        Why arre you mentioning his Wife no one else has.

      3. Shirley M
        December 1, 2022

        Mike: Do actions not speak louder than words? Why would she need to speak to him when we can all SEE what he does?

        1. Timaction
          December 1, 2022

          Higher taxes, raising Corporation taxes in a recession, secretly signing us up to PESCO. More wokery at every turn. Net stupid. Taking our cars and freedom. No energy generation plan leaving us at the mercy of foreign powers at huge costs. Banned fracking. Tax the energy giants to ensure no investment here. Own goals everywhere. We may think its deliberate to try and soften us up to think we need the EU? No. He’s driving us all to civil disobedience as we’re aware of what they are doing.

      4. No Longer Anonymous
        December 1, 2022

        Put it this way then. Whatever happens to the UK Mr Sunak and Mr Hunt are going to be OK.

      5. Lynn Atkinson
        December 1, 2022

        Mike, it’s what they do, not what they say. Therefore nobody needs to have ‘met them’ to evaluate them. The Tory members got it right. Even Truss rather than Sunak.

        1. Bill Brown
          December 2, 2022

          No thank you to Truss

    2. Peter Wood
      December 1, 2022

      Yes, the evidence is mounting in this regard, ref. photos of young prime Ministers having a good time with someone who wants to give the World a ‘Reset’ and wants to ‘construct the World of tomorrow’ with the right people in charge. If enough powerful people buy into this plan, then we’re in for a world of hurt first. Is that what’s being done now?

      1. Ian B
        December 1, 2022

        @Peter Wood +1

    3. Sharon
      December 1, 2022

      Christine +1

    4. Lifelogic
      December 1, 2022

      This is surely correct.

  5. Fedupsoutherner
    December 1, 2022

    Quite honestly John your party is no different to Labour anyway so who’s going to notice? It’s doing everything possible to see the UK fail and everything is blamed on Brexit. Brexit isn’t working because certain people…….we know who they are…… don’t want it to work and so there is a colloraboration with the EU to make it fail. Your government has continued down the route of self destruction with its failure to tackle illegal immigration and continuing with net zero putting the security of this country at risk. A failure too to ensure those that can work do work. Together with your split party and the unions bringing everyone out on strike you will send the country into oblivion. You have wasted a majority government and all Starmer has to do is keep breathing.

    1. turboterrier
      December 1, 2022

      F U S
      Some hard truths displayed this morning. How much longer we can remain in the state we find ourselves is in the laps I fear of other people who under the present set up have little hope of changing anything.

      1. Timaction
        December 1, 2022

        Totally incompetent Government who think spin replaces actions. Boat people inaction sums them up. Change the law, deport them, put them in uncomfortable accomadation. Action this day. All Albanians returned same day. Change the Home Office left winging management. You’ve had 12.5 years. Pretendy conservatives need to go.

        1. Hope
          December 1, 2022

          TA,
          Not incompetence, deliberate enforced socialism destroying our culture and way of life.

    2. Sharon
      December 1, 2022

      FUS Couldn’t agree more.

    3. Berkshire Alan
      December 1, 2022

      F U S

      Agreed, but thanks for continuing to try your best John, it is appreciated by many out here in what appears to be a growing UK wasteland of incompetence of management.

      1. SM
        December 1, 2022

        +10

    4. beresford
      December 1, 2022

      But they are handling illegal immigration (by protecting migrants crossing the Channel and sequestrating extra hotels and rented accommodation), just not in the way you want. Farage has forecast that be the next election nothing will have been done to reduce illegal immigration. The real question is when and under what pretext they will announce the amnesty for those already here.

    5. Lifelogic
      December 1, 2022

      Indeed a failure too to ensure it pays to work. Very often it simply does not pay at all after taxes and the many costs of working even if you do not do some cash in hand black market work.

      1. Hope
        December 1, 2022

        Wages chasing welfare is bound to be wrong in every regard.

        1. Lifelogic
          December 1, 2022

          +1 those living off benefits perhaps with a bit of bartering or cash in hand are behaving entirely rationally given the system that pertains.

  6. turboterrier
    December 1, 2022

    The party has to face the fact that to a very large number of voters the country is totally in the hands of two men who were rejected by their members but thanks to circumstances are now in full control. It sends out all the wrong signals both home and abroad.
    These people have not got a clue,they are reading the wrong scripts, listening to bad advice as all the while around them the country and its people suffer.

    1. Peter Wood
      December 1, 2022

      And this mismanagement is brought to us by (my latest effort) : The dire, dystopia designing duo of Downing Street.

      Gallows humour…

      1. Timaction
        December 1, 2022

        Not elected, unwanted by anyone, wrong policies, wrong vision, no strategic vision, no people skills, self centred, more interested in foreign interests in the East and far East.

  7. Mike Stallard
    December 1, 2022

    Sir Keir is a lawyer. He represents the blob. He is paid for by the Unions, nowadays the Civil Service, the Post Office, railway workers of all stripes. To the left of his very divided party, are people like Owen Jones. The Just Stop Oil are there too. And Jeremy Corbyn and his ex chancellor. Mermaids and the Tavistock. And possibly (though denied) the SNP.
    You can tell a man by his friends…
    In no way will I vote for them – any of them.

    1. Lifelogic
      December 1, 2022

      But Sunak and Hunt are almost as bad.

      1. Ian B
        December 1, 2022

        @Lifelogic Almost? are you sure? I disagree with Sir Kier’s mob big time, but at least you know where they stand – on the new left of centre with Sunak and Hunt as they demonstrate they are not Conservatives.

      2. Lynn Atkinson
        December 1, 2022

        Worse!

      3. a-tracy
        December 1, 2022

        Lifelogic, you’re going to realise the difference soon when Labour are in place to punish Buy-to-letters like you. In Scotland, the renter is King or Queen, and the only way to break terms is to sell up.

        They want to give in to all their union sub-payers who don’t put a value on all the many tax-free perks they already get. Like full sick pay; lots of holidays on top of 28 per year; they got an extra two days holiday this year (all forgotten the cost born by the taxpayers for them and lost appointments); discounts off cars; clothes; free life insurance; it goes on and on un-noticed and never discussed when salary packages are discussed or compared. Tell them OK you can have more money if you cut your holidays to 28 days per annum (that will result in less agency staff costs), if you have sickness insurance instead of full sick pay.

        1. a-tracy
          December 3, 2022

          I watched that fire brigade unionist on Dewsberry the other night (the one who looks like Prince Harry). When MD pointed out its not just about base salary, there are lots of perks and benefits on top that should be taken into account. He replied blah, blah, blah, everyone should be levelled up, we should not look to level down. Hey?

          No one is asking to level down. People are saying but YOU should add the cost of up your full wage package.
          * The extra 20 to 25% employer contribution of your salary, set aside tax, saved into your personal defined benefit pension. Pot never calculated so you don’t get hammered with the 55% tax over the £1m pot.
          * The cost of full-sick pay for six months and (some times a full year) plus half-pay for six months, there is a massive insurance cover cost of this. Worth another x on top of your salary.
          * Eight days extra holiday this year 10 over the 28 minimum holiday allowance + more with longer service, how much does that cost (not just in salary but agency staff cover). Fine take it but at least appreciate the true cost to the employer.
          * Enhanced night pay, weekend pay, bank holiday pay.
          * There are also other perks and benefits, saving money on purchases, cars, private medical cover, occupational health cover inc. counselling.

          I’m not saying they shouldn’t get any of this, I’m saying at least cost it up.

    2. Nottingham Lad Himself
      December 1, 2022

      No, you’d always prefer some Dickensian Ghost Lookalike from the ERG, wouldn’t you?

      1. Mickey Taking
        December 1, 2022

        so, Martin, you are quick to attack all the time. Just who would you want to see in a Starmer Cabinet?

  8. Donna
    December 1, 2022

    “wanting higher taxes, more subsidies, price controls, more migrants, compliance with EU rules after departure, aggressive unilateral pursuit of net zero, Wokeish cultural attitudes and a belief that more public spending solves all ills.”

    That’s precisely what Sunak, Hunt and well over half of the LibCON MPs on the green benches behind them want as well. Sir John seems to be acknowledging that we have a Westminster Uni-Party and no effective democracy in the UK.

    What we actually need is a genuine conservative party and real LEADERS: not a Blu-Green-Socialist hybrid which believes in nothing and is headed up by two unelected and unpopular technocratic globalists.

    1. glen cullen
      December 1, 2022

      +1

    2. Timaction
      December 1, 2022

      Indeed. Totally unwanted and rejected already. Election now.

    3. Mike Wilson
      December 1, 2022

      What we actually need is a genuine conservative party and real LEADERS

      Well, Truss looked more like a Tory than anyone since Margaret. Yet Tory MPs allowed the establishment to kick her out.

    4. Bill Brown
      December 1, 2022

      But Truss would be much worse

      1. Lynn Atkinson
        December 1, 2022

        Absolutely NOT. Truss was hopeless at Foreign Affairs (no Georg Ralphs never mind geo-politics) but so is Sunak. Truss was better than him in every other respect, especially political economy.
        She should have had the bottle to appoint Redwood. He would have seen the BOE off.

        1. Bill Brown
          December 2, 2022

          Lynn

          I disagree

        2. hefner
          December 5, 2022

          Ms Truss was good as Junior Minister at Education, and effective at Environment, rather pitiful at Justice, full of hot air at FCDO, and rather out of her depth as PM. A case of Peter Principle?

  9. BOF
    December 1, 2022

    Left/Right? Where is the right. Whenever anyone says anything out of line they are labelled far right. The only ideas and policies remaining are of the left.

    The Parliamentary Conservative party may as well not exist, and they do not represent the majority of the electorate. At the current rate of population replacement policy, it is only a matter of time before that too, changes. Is this what they are all working towards?

    1. Ian B
      December 1, 2022

      @BOF +1 The Conservative Party for ‘real’ is an isolated kept out of the way little pocket seemingly for the most part in what is called the ‘red wall’ all of which get to loose their seats come the election.

    2. No Longer Anonymous
      December 1, 2022

      BOF – Indeed. Sir John is lumped in with that lone nutter who taped fireworks to a bottle of petrol at an asylum centre.

      1. Narrow Shoulders
        December 1, 2022

        BBC yesterday rushing to “Reality Check” Nigel Farage’s tweet that London and Birmingham are minority white.

        Proved that in fact Irish, Roma and EU white citizens take the percentages up to over 50%. As an afterthought they wrote that White British hovers just above 40% in London and Birmingham.

        If this concerns you, you are Far Right according to the establishment.

        1. glen cullen
          December 1, 2022

          It concerns me

        2. Nottingham Lad Himself
          December 2, 2022

          “Right Wing Eccentric Claims Irish Are Not Really White”

  10. Shirley M
    December 1, 2022

    Basically, what you are saying, is that political parties promise something they have no intention of delivering, but do it to win votes. Why criticise another for doing as your party does? Hypocritical, isn’t it!

    1. Ian B
      December 1, 2022

      @Shirley M +1

    2. Mike Wilson
      December 1, 2022

      Ouch! Nail on head.

  11. R.Grange
    December 1, 2022

    Sorry, Sir John, but the people Sunak listens to are not you and other Conservative MPs, least of all those few who espouse traditional conservatism. They are up on the level of his fellow G20 leaders and their paymasters. We got the measure of Sunak early on, when he initially said he would not attend COP27 because of pressing matters to sort out at home in this country, but then his lead was tugged and he fell into line with the globalist agenda.

    1. Martyn G
      December 1, 2022

      ….then his lead was tugged and…. As though he is a loyal dog, do you mean?.

      That’s one perspective I suppose but from the get-go of him being appointed as PM, I tagged him as a puppet who dances as instructed by those well outside the UK pulling his strings.

  12. David Cooper
    December 1, 2022

    “What Mr Sunak needs to do to raise Conservative poll ratings from their recent extreme lows is to show he does mean business when he says he will bring down migration, end small boat crossings, lower taxes , deliver Brexit wins and restore the unity of the UK internal market.”

    The benefit of the doubt is a precious commodity in politics. One problem here, in the context of a PM talking tough but acting feebly, is whether he ever had any of that commodity in the first place, let alone whether he squandered whatever he had.

    If we may wander into the Jungle Book for a moment, Sir John’s list of “bear necessities” is far from ideally entrusted to an individual whose sole mantra is “trust in me”.

    1. Ian B
      December 1, 2022

      @David Cooper – its simpler than that, he needs to get a grip and take charge. He is the guy that overseas all taxpayer funded departments, he is the guy that tells the Civil Servants, the Treasury, the BofE, the OBR, the NHS what we want and need as a Country. He is the guy that ensures our Laws, Rules and Regulation are as required. They all do his bidding on behalf of us all, not the reverse. Any failures are all at his feet because he is the master of them – no one else

  13. Brian Tomkinson
    December 1, 2022

    We live in an elective dictatorship with all parties in Parliament merely different ever so slightly different shades of socialism. All are committed to tax, spend and WASTE. We need another party, now, to represent the people.

    1. Donna
      December 1, 2022

      My analogy is a 3-legged stool, with the Establishment forming the seat. The Lib Lab CON legs are very slightly different lengths so it wobbles a bit (and that’s what they loudly argue over to pretend we’re offered a choice) but it is extremely stable and won’t collapse…….until one of the legs is broken and then it can’t stand. We have to break one of the legs.

      1. Brian Tomkinson
        December 1, 2022

        Donna, I like your analogy.

      2. Mickey Taking
        December 1, 2022

        better still if all 3 legs broke.?

  14. Shirley M
    December 1, 2022

    I’ve come to the conclusion that they do indeed intend to destroy the UK. The signs are clear, but nobody really wants to believe it. Why would someone destroy their own country? It takes someone of that cruel nature to deliberately impoverish legal citizens while giving thousands of uninvited guests (criminal ones at that) luxury accommodation and all the benefits currently unavailable to legal citizens.

    I suspect they want to destroy the UK and make us a vassal state of the EU (NOT a member) as a final warning to the other EU members. Will they make it worthwhile to the people who are trashing our country? It’s been done before, hasn’t it, and we know how the EU ‘buys’ loyalty with other people money! Unfortunately, we have more traitors in Parliament than patriots, as the Benn Act amply demonstrated.

    1. beresford
      December 1, 2022

      Think bigger. Most EU states are doing the same thing to their indigenous peoples, and some are more advanced in the process than us. The idea is to destroy nation states in order to remove coherent opposition to global technocracy.

    2. Donna
      December 1, 2022

      On the Andrew Marr Show this week David Miliband (apparently after a Safe Seat) gave us his opinion on the UK’s “future relationship” with the EU: we have to have regulatory alignment. In other words, the UK must become their vassal state.
      And that’s precisely what Hunt (and the rest of the Remainer LibCONs) want ….. including Sunak.

      1. Philip P.
        December 1, 2022

        Donna, Sunak was one of the first Tory MPs to speak out in favour of Brexit, saying on 26 February 2016: ‘Our nation will be freer, fairer and more prosperous outside the EU. Outside the EU, we can decide our own immigration policy, ensure our own laws and courts are sovereign, and enhance our position as a dynamic, outward-looking trading economy.’ NB: ‘ensure our own laws and courts are sovereign’, i.e. no imposition of regulatory alignment with the EU. I believe his voting record also shows he has regularly voted for measures supporting Brexit. So what you’re saying is, you think he’s been turned. I’d be disappointed to think that, but I suppose we’ll have to look at how he acts from now on and judge for ourselves.

    3. Timaction
      December 1, 2022

      I thought that this must be absurd until the recent budget. Then it begs the motives for raising corporation taxes as we go into a recession. Raising personal taxes as well. Increasing legal and illegal immigration. Refusing to take effective action against anything minority. Refusing to stop useless HS2, foreign aid etc. They are deliberately trashing our Country and must go.

    4. Original Richard
      December 1, 2022

      Shirley M : “Why would someone destroy their own country?”

      I cannot answer your question as to why. But there is no shortage of examples in history of communists destroying their own country. Stalin’s collectivization era saw several famines, as well as peasant resistance to collectivization. The death toll cited by experts has ranged from 4 million to 7 million.

      In 1958, Mao Zedong launched the Great Leap Forward that aimed to rapidly transform China’s economy from agrarian to industrial, which led to the deadliest famine in history and the deaths of 15–55 million people between 1958 and 1962.

      This century communists are causing further famines by initiating a war against CO2, plant food, without which no life on earth can exist, and a war against cheap, abundant, reliable energy that has brought prosperity to billons of people.

      The war on CO2, will not only bring impoverishment through lack of affordable and reliable energy but also cause famines by curbing fertiliser production and reducing the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere.

      There is no empirical evidence that we have a climate emergency. It’s initially a communist scam to destroy the West but will cause the death of billions if this madness is not reversed.

  15. Javelin
    December 1, 2022

    I found out yesterday that as a result of the 2007 crash statisticians started using “extreme value” distribution curves to add black swan event predictions into their computer models.

    The problem with these predictive computer models is they are not based on gaussian normal distribution (bell curves) but on “extreme value distributions”, which is where the author can plug in any probability they like into the tail of a probability “curve” to come up with any extreme conclusion they wish for.

    1. Mickey Taking
      December 1, 2022

      You sit at the feet of Prof Ferguson!

    2. hefner
      December 2, 2022

      You should have read properly how this is done. Any ‘probability they like’ is not ‘plugged into the tail of a probability curve’.
      What about you realising that there is more to statistics than ‘bell curves’, Weibull distribution, for example.
      And to realise that the guy was a trader for thirty years. Mamma mia!

      1. a-tracy
        December 3, 2022

        I’ve been reading Javelin’s comments for a while now and s/he is interesting and informative.

        I see you coming on here hefner, as an expert on everything, you remind us Javelin is a trader of 30 years standing. What is your cv? What are your qualifications? What is or was your job that you are the expert in these matters to be trusted more than Javelin?

        1. hefner
          December 6, 2022

          a-tracy, I would have thought a 30-year trader to be knowledgeable in statistics. Javelin’s original comment, seemingly unaware of what type of statistical distributions are used in financial modelling was rather curious, specially after quoting Nassim N. Taleb’s ‘The Black Swan’. Also curious are his previous comments about the OBR model and his later reluctance at possibly modify and run it once given the links to possibly download it.

          And to answer your question I have a post-graduate background in maths, physics and computer modelling with various jobs in Canada, France, the USA and the UK. And since retired I have taken a few MOOCs on economic topics.
          Will that be enough to quench your curiosity?

          1. a-tracy
            December 6, 2022

            Yes, thank you; also, I’d love to know which county you are from and which county you retired to if still in the UK.

  16. Jonty
    December 1, 2022

    What brexit wins? I don’t see any – am now looking at the horizon and still don’t see any

    1. beresford
      December 1, 2022

      Mainly because our Establishment have deliberately stayed as aligned to the EU as possible, including giving away our fishing grounds to the French and accepting the detachment of N Ireland.

    2. Peter Parsons
      December 1, 2022

      I understand that they (Brexit wins) can be found somewhere between the pot of gold at the end of a rainbow and a unicorn.

      1. Nottingham Lad Himself
        December 1, 2022

        Well, there were wins for some. The top bananas of the sewage companies found that no one would enforce the rules on discharges and river/sea water quality once we had left.

        Even if the companies do get fined, then that is just fining the customers who have had their rivers fouled. In some countries the responsible executives go to prison, on the other hand.

    3. a-tracy
      December 3, 2022

      Jonty, the Tories aren’t working with any great speed. However, there have been wins.

      The EU show in their accounts they got €40bn less in a year.

      We should not have to bail out the ECB any longer to provide all the loans?

      Pay in the UK has gone up considerably. When we compare wage growth from back before the working time directive 1998, no one ever takes into account the drop in average working hours, which drops gross earnings over time and has forced more women back into work sooner than they would like after having children to make up the loss in their partner/husband overtime. So now both have to work as a consequence of the WTD which ‘averages’ pay down per working person! The only people that can do more are the self-employed which is why there are more of them.

      This also had an impact on Universal credit in the UK as lots of parents now only have to work 16 hours.

  17. Pud
    December 1, 2022

    If every party’s policies are “middle” then the only choice voters get is which colour rosette they prefer.

    1. glen cullen
      December 1, 2022

      All the current main partys appear to have the same policies on HS2, energy, migration, the EU, the Russo-Ukraine war, the rebuilding of parliament, foreign aid and net-zero

      1. Lynn Atkinson
        December 1, 2022

        Agreed, so the redress for our grievances is no longer political.

  18. Sea_Warrior
    December 1, 2022

    There are lots of things that Sunak ccould do to win back voters, at zero-cost. Here’s one: acknowledge the threat to democracy posed by the leader of the WEF, and state that the British government will not be attending future Davos jamborees.

    1. MWB
      December 1, 2022

      What, not attend Davos in January, and miss the free skiing ?
      When I go there I pay for myself, unlike this bunch of parasites.

    2. Bill B.
      December 1, 2022

      But S-W, Sunak was hobnobbing with the WEF’s executive chairman just a couple of weeks ago in Bali. Perhaps you missed it, but he, Trudeau and Schwab were having a bonding session wearing those puce-coloured Balinese shirts, getting on really well. Why would Sunak miss out on get-togethers with like-minded people that he clearly enjoys spending his time with?

  19. Old Albion
    December 1, 2022

    Sir John. Your party (Gov) is doomed to wipe-out at the next General election. You are one of a very few who may hold on. If not, you will be missed.
    Sadly, that means the Labour party will become the new Gov. I’m confident they will be capable of matching the disaster your Gov. has managed for the last twelve years.

    A new party, a new way of thinking, a new direction is required. It won’t win the next GE, but perhaps will gain some seats to influence. Or perhaps I’m just so despondent I’m clutching at straws………….

    1. IanT
      December 1, 2022

      You are going to have your work cut out Sir John. The Lib Dems are bombarding Wokingham residents with leaflets through the door and online propaganda (via the Council emails they now control). Even the local paper published Cllr Jones this week where he mentioned the “Truss, Kwarteng, Redwood” budget, so you can see the attack that is coming your way. Hopefully people are already tiring of their new Lib Dem-led Council, as it reduces rubbish collections, plans for 20mph speed zones (with cycle ways) and doubles local parking charges. Mr Jones blames Central Government for these changes of course. Are your local party members ready for the fight or are they demoralised & disenchanted? The Conservatives can’t win if the foot soldiers won’t turn out for them.

    2. David Cooper
      December 1, 2022

      A week is a long time in politics. If we look back to what the Brexit Party achieved from a standing start in 2019, precipitating TM’s removal, there would be ample time over the next year for the message “Labour would make all of this chaos a thousand times worse – don’t be fooled” to be hammered home. However, as matters stand, the hammering for which we are clamouring is somewhat unlikely to be administered by The Snake and his government. Will someone else step up to offer to wield the hammer before it is too late, and how might they best quickly get the message across that they should be so entrusted?

  20. Ian B
    December 1, 2022

    What Mr Sunak needs to do is to take charge of the UK, and remember he has been appointed Boss, CEO/MD of the UK by the largest group in Parliament. He also needs to read the Conservative Manifesto and implement in full the promises all Conservatives made to their electorate.

    As PM he needs to stamp out excuses, make things happen and make every avenue of his domain transparent and accountable.

    Like all PM’s he needs to stop trying to be an ‘every man’ in trying to appeal as in cosy up and assimilate those that will never vote Conservative in a million years.

  21. Nigl
    December 1, 2022

    There is no muddle in the middle. The Tory party in Westminster has deliberately, driven by the One Nation group moved left to take Starmers ground. No question about it. Reneged on your manifesto with massive tax increases straight out of Gordon Browns playbook, crumbled at every pushback from the woke/public sector, poured money in accepting and doing nothing about poor performance, forced moves on us towards net zero when the technology isn’t ready, failed NI and the City post Brexit and so it goes on. I see the Armed Forces spending review has been shredded as just not credible.

    ‘Incompetent or ignorant’ from one of the most respected journalists of his generation.

    Alistair Heath in the DT spot on. Not only can’t the Tory Cabinet do anything about the countries problems, they have given up.

  22. George Brooks.
    December 1, 2022

    You are absolutely right Sir John the PM ”is all mouth and no do” and every PMQs he enhances his reputation, that you can’t believe what he says. As far as these illegal channel crossings are concerned his statements are just laughable, if they weren’t so serious.

    If Mrs May’s ”poison pill” of the Slavery act could come into law without a debate, then surely to can be suspended just as easily. If that is the case, then the same should happen to the 1951 definition of a refugee after which it should be a lot easier to ship many of the migrants back from whence they came.

    BTW we still allow EU fishermen to within 6 miles of our coastline leaving 6 miles of our territorial waters to be plundered and the seabed ripped up by huge industrial trawlers that are banned by many countries around the world. Conversely, we conform to Maritime Law and fish these migrants out of the water within the 12-mile limit.

    How about some consistency, Rishi?

    1. Shirley M
      December 1, 2022

      Yes, I keep wondering when Sunak will tell an actual truth … just for a change! It appears Boris has set a trend!

  23. Ian B
    December 1, 2022

    The UK through its political class has degenerated into a rabble that is trying to prove one faction is a little less worse than the other. Being Good, serving, getting the best, taking charge and owning is completely of the table.

  24. majorfrustration
    December 1, 2022

    Twelve years of promises and more promises. Slightly off topic I live in the village where one of the GPs has taken off and has moved to Cornwall. According to an article in the Parrish Mag “this will not effect our services” Wrote to my MP on a for information basis and asking his comments and received a “there there” reply – get on with it.
    Out of touch as an MP and out of touch as a Party.

  25. Nigl
    December 1, 2022

    And in other news the BOE is deliberately making our Banks less competitive by boiler plating the latest Basel capital retention rules.

    The EU by contrast have watered them down.

    As with the regulatory push back last week, another example of how the elites are the ones really in charge, certainly not HMG.

  26. Ian B
    December 1, 2022

    No one in the UK is asked to look in the Mirror and ask that reflection to take charge and be responsible. As Kennedy (That left wing part of the free world) said ‘ask not what you Country will do for you but what will you do for it.’

    We now have MP’s that wont even take charge of their selves or the responsibilities they have been handed

  27. No Longer Anonymous
    December 1, 2022

    It isn’t a matter of scrutinising Sir Kier Starmer. The fact is that Conservative voters like me don’t care about him getting in any more… because he couldn’t possibly be any worse.

    When I go to the polling booth I will be faced with a Conservative politician who lied to me and delivered extreme socialism and a Labour politician who promises to deliver extreme socialism.

  28. agricola
    December 1, 2022

    O
    A quickie off piste on a black run for you. I find it unremarkable to ask somebody who is obviously not anglo saxon where they or their family originate. On sight how can you tell the difference between West Indian and West African, or China and Taiwan. Having spent a lifetime travelling all over the World knowing where someone originates is a good conversation opener. A few years ago one of my chemo nurses came from Bangalore so we kicked off with the delights of the West End Hotel finding we had a lot in common. I asked her because at first sight my best guess was Southern India. It led to a good human relationship. The lady who met the royal godmother is over reacting and the royal family are being ill advised. Get a life is my best advice.

    1. agricola
      December 1, 2022

      Maybe, just maybe, the godmother questioner did not have hearing aids deployed which would result in persistent repetitive questioning.

      1. Sir Joe Soap
        December 1, 2022

        In other news, woman running charity limited to helping women who can claim African heritage asked about her own African heritage.

        1. Mark B
          December 2, 2022

          A woman running a charity for the benefit of ONLY women of African decent complaining about racism, despite being born here and once having a British name.

          And no one sees the irony of this ?!?!?!

        2. Mickey Taking
          December 2, 2022

          and her protection ‘squad’ were recording anything of any use in the ‘discredit Royal Family and undermine William’s USA trip’. So we might have guessed things were not quite as we rushed to assume!

    2. glen cullen
      December 1, 2022

      There’s a transcript of the exchange …who goes to an event prepared to record a chat

      1. rose
        December 3, 2022

        Funny the reptiles are using the word “transcript”. There is no official transcript or tape and nor should there be. Guests are normally informed of the royal etiquette, including the rule that no-one repeats conversations held at court. We can all see the reason for this.

        This is one person’s account. Those reading it supply their own tone, meaning, and context. Whatever happened to the journalistic rule that both sides of the case must be heard and that there must be two independent reliable sources before publishing what may be malicious gossip?

        We aren’t going to hear the other side of the case, that’s for sure, and the reptiles know it. The lady in waiting must feel as if she’s been run over by a tank. Let us hope and pray it does not kill her.

  29. Narrow Shoulders
    December 1, 2022

    Please don’t adopt the “small boat” narrative Sir John. It is a ploy to lessen the impact in people’s minds. If you must use political parlance it is an immigrant CRISIS.

    Maybe then we could make some banners asking for action and not be accused of being swivel eyed loons, instead being concerned about our national resources.

    1. Sir Joe Soap
      December 1, 2022

      44000 is 8 enormous cruise liners full of people.

  30. glen cullen
    December 1, 2022

    If you had any hope of transforming the Tory position, regaining the trust of the voters and having any chance at the next election; today’s article needed to be written by Sunak and not SirJ

  31. Narrow Shoulders
    December 1, 2022

    The Overton Window has moved towards the left simply because your party does not counter the siren calls of “something must be done” with reasons why individuals should be doing that something.

    The more your government intervenes, the more the population expect intervention which pushes the Overton Window to the left.

  32. Mark Thomas
    December 1, 2022

    Sir John,
    I used to be in the centre, a true centrist. I always tried to see the argument from both sides. But the centre ground has shifted so far to the left that I now find myself firmly on the right.

    When I was younger and less politically aware, I used to look up to Members of Parliament whom I assumed were more mature and wiser than me. Although admittedly they were from a different generation.
    Now that I am older than most current MPs, I look down on them.

  33. Kenneth
    December 1, 2022

    The Conservatives will never get anywhere near re-election running Socialist policies which are so disconnected with what the electorate voted for.

    Of course, this is NOT a Conservative government. The proof is the fact that we are in such an economic mess. No true Conservative government would have allowed this to happen.

  34. John Barton
    December 1, 2022

    I think that Sir John will be a grave loss to the HoC but I and my wife will be voting against the Tories and for the Reform Party.

    1. Mickey Taking
      December 1, 2022

      Would any of his readers here suggest a constituency where the Tories might WIN a seat from any party?
      I know most of you could name upwards of 50 they will lose, and the margin of victory from last time suggests a swing of 150-250 seats lost.

  35. Sea_Warrior
    December 1, 2022

    More muddle! At the English National Opera last night. Discovered that ENO’s management was summoned into Arts Council England at short-notice and informed that all of its funding would be withdrawn from next April, unless it consented to being ‘levelled-up’ and moves to somewhere up north. This is no way for ACE to behave – and DCMS should be sorting ACE out.

    1. MWB
      December 1, 2022

      Yes, and your so called Conservatives will not be re-elected with a majority, or even re-elected at all, if something isn’t done to improve the woeful railway services “somewhere up north”.

      1. Sea_Warrior
        December 2, 2022

        I favour cancelling HS2 and investing the original budget (ca. £40 bn) into improving people’s short/medium-length commutes.

  36. Roy Grainger
    December 1, 2022

    At PMQ Sunak said that Labour wanted more debt, more inflation, more strikes and more migration. I suppose his argument is that as we’re getting all that anyway under the Conservatives there’s no need to switch to Labour ?

    Sunak’s approval rating with Conservative members is in single figures already (and Hunt’s is negative). The MPs wanted him and told us that they knew best – let’s see how that works out for them.

  37. Original Richard
    December 1, 2022

    Sir John,

    Your list of Opposition parties’ policies matches perfectly with those of the Conservative Parliamentary Party. You only forgot to include HS2 and the ending the charitable status of private schools which was recently suggested by a high ranking Conservative Minister prior to Mr. Starmer’s avowed intention to do so.

    This is because the top of the Conservative Party has succumbed to Robert Conquest’s second and third laws of politics and the CPP is now indistinguishable from the Opposition haven taken up all of their far left policies, starting with Net Zero and massive immigration.

    There isn’t any “simple right/left split” because Parliament, the civil service, the judiciary, the institutions and even now the police and military are all woke/left wing.

    For whom can I vote if I don’t want these policies?

  38. agricola
    December 1, 2022

    On the subject matter of the day I would advise Rishi Sunak to rediscover his Conservative Values and through such rediscover the Conservative party, who are out there in the UK waiting for him. Then apply those values to Immigration, NIP, and Taxation. Simple.

  39. oldwulf
    December 1, 2022

    I believe the Government has no empathy with us plebs.

    Maybe it feels that left wing virtue signalling will win it sufficient votes ?
    It won’t.

    It seems that Sunak took on the PM job as the fall guy.
    What does he have lined up for after the next General Election ?

  40. Chris S
    December 1, 2022

    While I deeply regret it, I am afraid the problem with politics is that the electorate has gone soft and parties are reflecting the fact in their policies. It is unthinkable for anyone to propose a true Thatcherite manifesto in the 21st century. Margaret herself could not carry the country with her today.

    Boris is probably the only politician in the Conservative Party who could win a decent working majority and his programme wasn’t remotely Thatcherite and look what the media and the party did to him !

    Millenials want everything handed to them on a plate. Couples expect to be able to buy a house without giving up on their expensive gym memberships, iPhone contracts and two new car, both on a PCP contract. They then complain and blame the government when they find out that this is impossible!

    Those of us who bought our first homes in the 1970s had to give up all of those things and started off with hand-me-down furniture etc. No youngsters would do that today!

    Far too few modern voters are prepared to stand on their own two feet and most now expect the government to do everything for them. It doesn’t help that successive Conservative Chancellors have made a huge mistake, taking millions out of paying tax altogether. Those people have no interest in keeping taxes low.

    Hence, we are where we are.

    1. hefner
      December 6, 2022

      ‘The 2,500-year-old history of adults blaming the younger generation’ , J.Gillard, historyhustle.com

  41. Original Richard
    December 1, 2022

    Last month the leader of the Opposition, Mr. Starmer, said, [if he wins the next GE], he would make Britain a “clean energy superpower by 2030” by ending the use of fossil fuels by this date.

    Mr. Starmer said the party would build a power system run entirely by cheap, home-grown renewables and nuclear by the end of this decade with proposals to quadruple offshore wind, triple solar and double onshore wind production by 2030.

    I presume he meant the decarbonisation of electricity by 2030, not the full Net Zero, but even then this dream is totally delusional, but obviously shared by all Parliamentarians as I cannot recall any MP of any party criticising this impossible policy.

    Unless of course Parliament intends the country to quickly become a third world country limping from day-to-day on meagre supplies of expensive and intermittent electricity, with the wealthy surviving on their own fossil fuel generators.

    Quite possible, as they are all signed up to the far left climate crisis/emergency cult for which there is absolutely no empirical evidence.

  42. Julian Flood
    December 1, 2022

    Sir John, something must be done. Anything that shows this government is committed to the wellbeing of the UK, anything that can be pointed to as an example of progress in any aspect of the multiple crises that are about to hit the fan may save a few seats in two years time and may begin the recovery of Conservative fortunes.

    Here is a suggestion. The Telegraph this week leaked the news that Hinkley Point C, a French (badly) designed EPR nuclear reactor, may take another eleven years to build. No-one has yet suggested that this is because of a leak at Taishan, one of the first EPRs to be commissioned, but that seems the way to bet. If Hinkley needs a redesign of the containment vessel then it will cost billions. The Chinese have been bought out but the French, 50% shareholders, will resist for reasons of pride and because they see yet more years milking the British public.

    Cancel Sizewell C. Put Hinkley on hold. Announce that Rolls Royce SMRs will be commissioned to fill the gap. This will permanently lock out the Chinese, annoy the French, support UK industry and eventually give us zero carbon electricity in quantity. Win win win win.

    Action this day.

    JF

  43. a-tracy
    December 1, 2022

    I agree, I don’t think it is ‘right wing’ to care about excessive migration. I think Starmer is waking up that he needs to appeal to former Labour left-wing that deserted him for Boris’ false promises on migration and good border control (promises that all you current Tory MPs agreed with to get elected, if any of you didn’t agree with it then you should have stood Lib Dem and stood on your own principles, not with a blue rosette on).
    Most of the people I know that are open migration are right wing. They’re upset cheap labour has been reduced now. All these latest incomers aren’t allowed to work. The whole Home Office system doesn’t work and is broken a lot at the control of the people that work within it.

  44. glen cullen
    December 1, 2022

    1 Hour Old – The latest YouGov/Times voting intention poll shows
    https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2022/12/01/voting-intention-con-22-lab-47-29-30-nov-2022
    Conservatives 22% of the vote (-3)
    Labour’s 47% (-1)
    Liberal Democrats 9% (0)
    Greens 5% (0)
    Reform UK 9% (+4)
    Speaks for itself

  45. Bill Brown
    December 1, 2022

    Sir JR

    Interesting contribution but for the Conservative party it’s all to late.
    On the Brexit issue it has already cost too much for the nation and the concept of great wins on the back of it was always deeply flawed and we are now paying for it.
    With the worst economic performance in the OECD.

    1. Peter2
      December 1, 2022

      Not sure where you get that claim from billy.
      When I search the Web it shows different figures.
      eg
      Q1 real gdp per capita….percentage change on previous quarter, shows Germany USA and France doing worse than the UK
      Canada doing best.

      1. hefner
        December 1, 2022

        Peter2, you have already been told, several times. Why do you not look at figures over say 1, 3, 6 years, and considering both growth (a time derivative) and the value of GDP per capita (the starting point for that growth). Is it so difficult to understand for a businessman like you?

        Start-up 1 now worth £100 has had a growth of 100% this last quarter, moving from £50 to £100. Over the same period, Company 2 has had a growth of only 10% from £900,000 to £990,000. Which one would you want to be involved with?

        Guyana right now has a highest GDP growth rate (47.2%). Would you want to move there?

        1. Peter2
          December 1, 2022

          You sound like an old public school teacher heffy opening with ” you’ve been told several times”
          Which translates as shut-up only we are right.
          Your post just demonstrates how ridiculous the claims of your pal eubilly were.
          Go on pick another timescale.

          1. Bill Brown
            December 2, 2022

            Peter 2

            Stop playing an uninformed troll

          2. Peter2
            December 2, 2022

            Your statement was false billy.
            It isn’t current or previous economic figures as you tried to suggest in your statement that the UK has the worst economic performance in the OECD.
            It’s a prediction of the future.
            That wasn’t what you wrote nor implied.

      2. Bill Brown
        December 1, 2022

        Peter 2

        If you read all the news you would know that this is the forecast for 2023.

        1. Peter2
          December 2, 2022

          Q1 2022 actually Billy.
          Any figures from you?
          Normally you and heffy criticise posts that make claims without proof.
          But when you get figures you try to rubbish them if they don’t agree with your agendas.
          Hilarious as usual.

          1. Bill Brown
            December 2, 2022

            OECD figures for 2023, just look around you it’s miserable

          2. Bill Brown
            December 2, 2022

            Read what I am writing Q 1 is 9 months ago

          3. Peter2
            December 2, 2022

            Your post said “with the worst economic performance in the OECD”
            So now you have been challenged you have to admit it isn’t a current or even previous set of comparative figures but some prediction for the future.
            Hilarious billy.

          4. Bill Brown
            December 3, 2022

            Using 9 months old figures when we have performed worst since compared with the countries you are comparing us with.
            Hilarious PeterXi

          5. Peter2
            December 3, 2022

            Wrong again billy !
            Your original statement tried to falsely claim they were current figures from the OECD whereas you now admit that you were actually referring to a prediction for next year.

          6. Bill Brown
            December 3, 2022

            PeterXi

            Stop Trolling when your figures are now both old and wrong.
            PeterXi Chinese propaganda

          7. Peter2
            December 3, 2022

            It’s not trolling to point out your statement was wrong.
            You should have said…it is predicted that next year…
            Instead you used a false news technique.
            You got found out.
            My figures which you cannot refute are the very latest OECD economic statements published.

  46. a-tracy
    December 1, 2022

    What do you think you say or do, John, that makes you ‘far-right’ in their eyes when they label you in the media, social media and on tv?
    I know more left-wing socialists that voted for Brexit than I know what I’d consider true-blue Tories. So I don’t think it’s that.
    Is it because you don’t want nationalisation? Does nationalisation mean you’re left-wing, and supporting private companies mean you are right-wing?
    What are the top five measures – that you are measured on that make you ‘far-right in 2022’?

  47. Bert Young
    December 1, 2022

    Labour simply switches its stance to gather public sympathy and support . Sunak must stand firm and one of the issues of contention he faces is illegal immigration . We cannot go on with our “soft soaping” approach any longer ; those immigrants who arrive via any EU country must be housed by them not us .

  48. Mark J
    December 1, 2022

    Whilst many people out there take what Starmer says with a pinch of salt, the same is also said of the current Conservative administration.

    In PMQ’s yesterday when Rishi said the Conservatives were ‘Controlling our borders’ for the umpteenth time, it was rightly met with huge laughter across the House.

    John, you know full well what voters frustrations are. If you wish to see the poll ratings rise from ‘their recent extreme lows’, then you and other like-minded MPs need to start holding the Frontbench to account.

    Those poll ratings will not increase at time soon with the current state of the country, with no credible solutions (or will) to fix many of those problems.

    Voters reward you for delivering on what you say – not endless empty promises and failure.

  49. Bryan Harris
    December 1, 2022

    What Mr Sunak needs to do to raise Conservative poll ratings from their recent extreme lows is to show he does mean business ….

    He need to drastically change his thinking, and prove that he is a real conservative – and not some Blair clone.

  50. Mark J
    December 1, 2022

    Marco Longhi on Talk TV this morning.

    Another great example of a Conservative MP we need more of, along with Sir John and Lee Anderson.

    Basically implied that the Front Bench is largely Liberal and things like pulling out of the ECHR, or ignoring their rulings (in regards to the Migrant Crisis) would cause divisions among the more Liberal types in Government.

    The Conservative party has no place for Liberals, they should be joining the Lib Dems, rather than continue to frustrate Conservative policies being implemented.

    This woolly Liberalism infecting the Conservative party is a factor in why their poll ratings are in a slump.

    If we the voters wanted a Liberal regime in power, we would have voted Lib Dem, not Conservative.

    The Conservative party really needs to sort itself out!

  51. Geoffrey Berg
    December 1, 2022

    Yes, the better policies Sir John Redwood advocates would help the Conservative Party but that is not enough in the dire circumstances they and the country are in.
    They also need to attack a still below-par Labour Party far more effectively. Labour’s promise to add V.A.T. to independent schools’ fees, foolishly highlighted by Sir Keir Starmer, yesterday, is pure vote-losing politics. Only the about 10% of the population closely associated with independent schools really cares. Labour’s policy is unfair as independent schools are saving taxpayers the costs of state education for their pupils. It is also educational folly as independent schools compete with and therefore put pressure on standards in state education. However the political point is since ‘education’ is free from V.A.T., are Labour also really intending to charge V.A.T. on University (which are ‘independent’ institutions) tuition fees and privately run nurseries and even independent tutoring to pay for their expensive programmes? If the Conservatives really had the sense to run with such points Labour could be in real trouble here.
    However we live in a part Presidential system with Leader up against Leader, Sunak v Starmer. It needs to be Johnson v Starmer as Starmer is no match for Boris but can cope with Sunak any day of the week.

  52. a-tracy
    December 1, 2022

    To be fair, they did keep to the Truss tax drop in the form of the national insurance personal allowance increase (from £9570 to £12570) and didn’t put in the planned increase % paid by employer and employee by 2.5%.

    Let’s not forget that, or Hunt may feel tempted to increase it again slyly.

  53. Denis Cooper
    December 1, 2022

    Further to my reply to Jonty above, I have sent an enquiry to the Cabinet Office as follows:

    “Current status of checks on food imported from the EU”

    “I read in multiple media sources that additional post-Brexit checks on food imported from the EU have added £200 to household food bills:

    https://tinyurl.com/bnwewmjn

    But my understanding was that it had been decided not to introduce any higher level of checks than obtained when we were in the EU, which were considered sufficient then and surely should still be sufficient now:

    https://www.gov.uk/government/news/new-approach-to-import-controls-to-help-ease-cost-of-living

    So what is the situation? Are the LSE researchers correct in saying that Brexit has led to additional, expensive checks on food imported from the EU, or have they missed the development that additional checks are not in fact being applied to food imports from the EU, in which case why is the government not vigorously correcting that fake anti-Brexit news?”

    I await an answer.

  54. Denis Cooper
    December 1, 2022

    Off topic, what a joke! This is from the government’s counsel, Mr McGleenan, who reportedly said:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-63818935

    “… there had been “much misunderstanding” about what the protocol meant for the Acts of Union.

    … there was “a view abroad that the Act of Union has been repealed or subjugated”.”

    The word “subjugation” appeared in the March 14 2022 judgment of the Belfast Court of Appeal:

    https://www.judiciaryni.uk/sites/judiciary/files/decisions/Summary%20of%20judgment%20-%20In%20re%20Jim%20Allister%20and%20others%20%28EU%20Exit%29%20-%20CA%20-%201403222.pdf

    “The EUWA 2018 is a modern statute which utilises clear language to achieve its purpose which is essentially subjugation in the event of any conflict with a previous enactment. This does not offend any constitutional principle and is in truth reflective of changing constitutional arrangements brought about by democratic will.”

    “What has happened is that some provisions of the Acts of Union found in Article VI in relation to trade are now, in accordance with the sovereign will of Parliament, to be read and have effect subject to the terms of the later Act, the EUWA 2018, which was necessary to effect the United Kingdom’s exit from the EI. This subjugation has been expressly provided for in the words of the EUWA 2018 itself.”

  55. Barbara
    December 1, 2022

    As the festive season draws closer, MPs may be interested (or not) to know that Maurice Snelling, the 72-year-old gentleman whom their ‘protective’ regime recently imprisoned for serving mince pies last Christmas (Cloudside Shooting Club case), has had a heart attack in prison. He is now in the prison hospital, handcuffed to a bed. Well done, MPs – I feel a lot safer now.

    1. Mickey Taking
      December 1, 2022

      old news Barbara. I imagine rather a lot of people out there thought ‘oh my God, they are locking people up for a lot less than I did!’

  56. mancunius
    December 1, 2022

    “Mr Sunak needs to embrace millions of Conservative voters who currently think the government is not Conservative enough”
    You mistake Sunak for somebody who has a) political commitment b) a policy programme c) an interest in politics d) a Conservative bone in his body e) ideals of any kind. He isn’t even a technocrat or a ‘self-made man’.
    Being PM of the UK is just a step on his globalist route to ‘riches beyond the dreams of actresses’, as Edgar Wallace satirically put it. And Sunak does not even have Blair’s excuse of being just another mediocre lawyer on the make.

    1. Diane
      December 2, 2022

      Interesting read, two articles on Conservative Woman – Nov 30 & Dec 01, movers & shakers, megarich climate zealots and net zero zealots…..

  57. formula57
    December 1, 2022

    If true (as it seems to be) that “…Sir Kier woos the very same so called right wing voters by pretending he now cares about excessive migration and accepts Brexit” what exactly would be the objection to offering him a seat in the current Cabinet?

  58. a-tracy
    December 1, 2022

    The whole UK seems in a muddle at the moment. Lady Susan was named a racist in the press yesterday, the accuser’s representative said; “Yes, the person was offensive, but it serves no purpose to name & shame her, it would make us just as bad. We prefer that this be handled kindly.”

    It’s not been handled kindly has it, what do they want to achieve, that Lady Susan visits with her accuser and apologises face to face as surely no one else apologising on her behalf works? This modern insincere apology on behalf of other people is beyond me.

    Why didn’t the accuser simply say to Lady Susan, “I am British and I culturally present myself today as a British person I don’t wish to discuss my family heritage and culture as it is nothing to do with who I am today”? Nice and polite.

    Instead, she has kicked up a storm. Pretty soon, the ‘unwoke’ will be tip-toeing around on eggshells, not wishing to speak to people, and then there would be accusations of ignoring people and not appreciating their culture and heritage. Then that left-wing lawyer chap who is always stirring up trouble said Lady Susan made similar remarks to him, well Sir why didn’t you kindly correct her and tell her this question wasn’t politically correct in this modern day so perhaps she wouldn’t have made a similar comment in the future.

  59. Pauline Baxter
    December 1, 2022

    Sir John. You are mainly right in what you say today.
    The disunity in your party is not a simple split between left and right. However, there is disunity and the party could disintegrate by the next G.E. Or be a long time in opposition after it.
    I do not fancy a Lib/Lab government!
    Unfortunately I rather doubt whether Sunak is the right person to heal the split. Not that I have any better suggestion.
    Your saying he should uphold the 2019 Manifesto was a good idea. I believe you even pointed out that Carbon Neutral by 2050 was quite soon enough!

  60. acorn
    December 1, 2022

    So, when are you going to declare that you will be a candidate for the Reform Party at the next election? It will be a valiant move on your behalf, knowing a Thatcherite brain dead Wokingham constituency of voters, will continue to vote for Donkeys, if they have a blue rosette attached. I have no idea if you are hunting with the ERG fascist hounds; or, running with the “one nation” Tory centralists; please explain.

    1. Peter2
      December 1, 2022

      You need to realise voters get to read your abusive comments about them acorn
      Why vote Labour if party supporters like you hate us.
      Hardly encouraging.

      1. Bill Brown
        December 3, 2022

        PeterXi

        That is not true there are also OECD figures for 3rd quarter 2022 of growth of minus 0,2 growth for the UK much less than most of the EU.
        So more Chinese propaganda.
        Hilarious

    2. Mickey Taking
      December 2, 2022

      acorn I would have thought if you took the trouble to read the anxiety, concern and criticism of Sir John’s party – indeed his continuing lost cause of support, you would notice the Wokingham commentators on here are the opposite of brain dead. Childish insults will get you nowhere. Did you ever graduate from the playground?

  61. Barrie Emmett
    December 1, 2022

    My thoughts exactly. Not only Starmer do we fear, but the Marxist Miliband brothers maybe on the
    rise. That’s a catastrophe.

  62. Simon R
    December 1, 2022

    Dear Sir John,

    Despite undoubted skills in some areas, I find it hard to believe that Sunak has the necessary experience, temperament, or judgement to lead the Conservatives or the country to recovery. Farage is once again on manoeuvres and I would suggest strongly that Sunak is removed at the earliest possible opportunity, and replaced by someone capable of governing.

  63. Mickey Taking
    December 1, 2022

    off topic.
    Boris Johnson has told his local Conservative Party he will stand again as an MP at the next general election, the BBC has been told. The Conservatives have given their MPs until 5 December to confirm whether they wish to contest the next election – which must be held by early 2025.
    So far, 11 Tory MPs have announced they will not stand for re-election.
    There had been suggestions Mr Johnson would stand down from Parliament after he was ousted as prime minister.
    MPs can still stand down before the next election without letting the party know ahead of time.
    [will they be urged to ‘Do not go gentle into that good night’ – Dylan Thomas?]

  64. Mickey Taking
    December 1, 2022

    Ian Blackford is to stand down as the SNP’s group leader at Westminster, after five years in which he’s questioned four different prime ministers.
    so sorry to see you go

  65. Edwardm
    December 2, 2022

    Very, very well said, Sir John.
    It seems to me, those who have taken over the Conservative Party have very different attitudes and views compared to traditional Conservative views. I feel under attack on many fronts from the political class, now brazenly so, and that they are doing their best to run our country down (one way is by giving over-priced nuclear and HS2 contracts to foreign companies, and another is by not producing our own gas). I find there are very few MPs like yourself who represent the concerns of many ordinary British people like me.
    By overcrowding our country, the consequent shortage of housing and high costs is a very poor offering to aspiring young people and makes for a high cost of living and a discouraging start to life, which of course affects them for years or decades – and a further downside is that to some people the idea of subsidy then becomes appealing – as bad a notion as that is.

  66. Lindsay McDougall
    December 4, 2022

    Regarding those poll ratings, the Labour lead has widened from 22% to 25% since the Autumn Statement, mainly because support for the tax increasing Conservatives has declined. Simultaneously, support for the Reform Party has increased from between 2% and 4% of the sampled vote to 9% in one poll. Ask not for whom the bell tolls …….

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