Spendthrift government with wrong priorities

In the government battle between Angela and Rachel I am with Rachel in saying No to more damaging tax rises and Yes to the need to curb public spending. I am against both of them for signing up to some very bad ideas for increased spending. It seems as if you need to be a foreign government or an illegal migrant to qualify for increased state spending.

Why are we paying large sums to Mauritius to give away islands we legally own?

Why are we allowing a big increase in the numbers of illegal migrants coming by small boat?

Why will we pay money to the EU to impose regulations on us?

Why are we considering joining the expensive Erasmus scheme so UK taxpayers can pay for foreign students to come here?

Why are we signing  up to a more powerful and expensive World Health Organisation?

Why might we give money to the EU for their defence?

Why are the government still recruiting civil servants when productivity is so weak?

Why is paying avoidable Bank of England losses such a spending priority?

 

 

 

 

115 Comments

  1. Lifelogic
    May 23, 2025

    Why indeed to all the above.

    Why too do we have Net Zero in The I

    Miliband’s net zero policy is ‘threat to national security … “It’s so crazy… the whole policy is completely mad.” Dearlove has previously warned against relying on China for Britain’s energy.

    Does Starmer hate the UK and it’s people or is there some other explanation for his mad agendas Net Zero, Chagos, the anti-growth budget, the EU betrayal, the open door immigration agenda…

    1. Ian
      May 23, 2025

      Free gear Starmergeddon is in a hurry. He’s on borrowed tome and he knows it. Historically it’s taken at least on parliament before liebour have run out of money
      Our dear leader is under pressure (words left out ed) so he needs to swing the wrecking ball further and faster.
      His and his cabinets allegiance is to international organisations mainly controlled by the CCP.
      Like most of his ilk, he despises the taxpayer and anyone who strives to better themselves that’s why they’ve gone after the farmers fishermen, steel workers, pensioners etc.
      This nightmare has to end soon.

      1. Donna
        May 23, 2025

        +1

      2. Ian
        May 23, 2025

        So New Zealand has junked its net stupid policies and lifted the Ahern ban on gas and oil exploration
        Citing power instability and ever rising power bills un line with the expansion of renewable energy.
        This leaves milibrains in the vanguard of this lunatic
        Nirvana but if course his aswell be faster and further.
        When will we be rid of this (man ed)

    2. Oldtimer92
      May 23, 2025

      It raises the question: Is he (Starmer) someone’s useful idiot or has he successfully penetrated the highest executive office of the state to damage it to the extent possible without raising suspicions? He has made no secret of his political persuasions. These alone guarantee chaos and failure. The same could be said of Miliband.

      1. jerry
        May 23, 2025

        @Oldtimer92; It wouldn’t be the first time a “someone’s useful idiot” has managed to grasp the reins of office within No.10, and not so long ago either; and some might even suggest this in the plural. 🙁

      2. Lifelogic
        May 23, 2025

        It is hard to think he is just very stupid and is not actually a traitor. He has done nothing to explain his Chagos decision or his WHA pandemic treaty decision that make any sense at all.

        Well done Trump for telling Sir Keir Starmer this his clean energy plan is insane and urging him to open up the North Sea and “get rid of windmills”. In a social media post the president-elect said the UK was making a mistake by reducing its reliance on oil and gas – and to “drill baby drill”.

        His comments come after the departure of several energy companies from the North Sea, which are leaving in protest against the government’s decision to increase the windfall tax on oil and gas producers, which will be used to fund renewable energy. Also for Trump’s stance with the South African President.

        1. Ed M
          May 23, 2025

          Trump is no friend to the UK.
          He’s shafted us with 10% tariffs.

    3. Ian B
      May 23, 2025

      @LifeLogic
      Yesterday from the media
      “New Zealand has abandoned its pursuit of net zero by revoking a ban on drilling for oil and gas.
      The country’s government confirmed the shift in its latest budget this week, which unveiled plans to invest NZ$200m (£90m) in new offshore gas fields.”

      It shows that some Governments and Parliaments know how to work with and for their people and country

    4. Lifelogic
      May 23, 2025

      Can anyone explain the Chagos deal unless Starmer and Lammy hate the UK and its population and want to assist China or are just insane? I certainly cannot find one.

    5. glen cullen
      May 23, 2025

      ‘maternity hospital in Bristol after a solar panel fire broke out with large plumes of black smoke engulfing the rooftop’ What cost for net-zero ?
      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clygn1p8nwzo

    6. rose
      May 23, 2025

      The Bristol Maternity Hospital, St Michael’s, had a very bad fire yesterday, after solar panels on its roof burst into flames. We are still being told the cause is not known.

  2. Lifelogic
    May 23, 2025

    Why are we allowing a big increase in the numbers of illegal migrants coming by small boat?

    Not allowing but encouraging!

    Starmer says the Tories had already conceded the transfer of the Chagos Islands sovereignty to Mauritius. So is this true JR?

    Why are we signing up to a more powerful and expensive World Health Organisation? This perhaps the worst of all. See Will Jones and the Weekly/Daily Sceptic on this. The WHO got nearly everything wrong on Covid it seems to be an evil organisation we should certainly leave to me.

    Reply No the Conservatives did not surrender Chagos sovereignty and Cameron made clear he would not proceed with drafts to do so which Mauritius had in mind.

    1. Peter Wood
      May 23, 2025

      reply to reply, As the largest user, by far, of the Chagos Islands airbase of Diego Garcia, do we charge the US rent for being there?
      Little point in complaining about Starmer, he’s doing what he said he would do; EU rejoin, Net Zero, tax more spend more… He’s NOT smashing the gangs but he is going to increase inward migration massively from India and the EU. We’ll soon run out of borrowing power. Expect more trouble ahead.

      Reply The US pays the running costs of the base which we can use

      1. Mickey Taking
        May 23, 2025

        reply to reply..and how does that compare to the £101m pa leaseback reported to cost us?

      2. Lynn Atkinson
        May 23, 2025

        Starmer has informed Mauritius …… of the secret projects we undertake from Diego Garcia.
        Expect a wholly unforseeable event that puts a stop to all of that. And a Court Case that demands we keep paying the rent even when we can’t use the facility.

        1. Dave Andrews
          May 23, 2025

          The next government should assign the rent liability to the outgoing Labour cabinet. If they think it’s such a good idea to give the Chagos Islands to Mauritius and pay them to rent it, they can pay for it.

        2. glen cullen
          May 23, 2025

          We’ll still be paying the yearly £100m rent; even when china moves in ….in the next five years

    2. jerry
      May 23, 2025

      @JR reply; Except there has been four Conservative PM’s since Cameron left public office, it was these latter PM’s who were being cited, whatever Mr Cameron did or didn’t do as Prime Minister is a distraction, a misdirection, as the legal issues have clearly moved on since 2016.

      Reply Cameron vetoed the sell out as Foreign Secretary prior to the 2024 election!

      1. jerry
        May 23, 2025

        @JR reply; Indeed, but that was also before the Mauritian general election of Nov. 2024. Situations change!

  3. Lifelogic
    May 23, 2025

    Why are we driving people out of private schools and pushing them to be a burden on the state sector rather than giving them tax breaks to reduce this burden?

    Why are we driving the rich, Non Doms and the hard working out of the UK thus reducing the tax take?

    Why does work rarely pay any or much more than benefits in the UK after tax, NI, rent, commuting, work clothing, council tax…?

    1. Berkshire Alan.
      May 23, 2025

      Why indeed, seems like they want to tax everyone with any ambition out of existence, so that everyone would then be dependent upon the State, but they seem to have forgotten the State has no money, other than that which it takes from working people’s salaries, wages, pensions, savings, investments.
      My grown up daughters actually said a couple of months ago, what is the point of saving/investing if in the end they are going to take everything ?

    2. Ian B
      May 23, 2025

      @Lifelogic – to create a Marxist/Socialist State in the Vogue of the WEF dream and the ‘Great Reset’ you have to remove and force out all dissenters. Only those beholden to their ruler must remain

  4. Stred
    May 23, 2025

    It’s because the UK is run by a socialist lawyer who believes in workd government and any law passed by socialist lawyers working for the UN or other international organisation. He has said he prefers Davos to Westminster. And of course they will always side against the interests of the UK. It’s like having a nightmare lawyer working for you while he finds laws that you never knew existed and follows them faithfully to your detriment.

    1. Donna
      May 23, 2025

      Correct.

    2. Ian B
      May 23, 2025

      @Stred – so true its embarrassing

  5. Cliff.. Wokingham.
    May 23, 2025

    Sir John,
    The short answer to all of your questions is, because we have a typical Labour government.

    1. Lifelogic
      May 23, 2025

      Well yes, but they replaced 14 years of dire Con-Socialist government and are proving to be even more moronic still. They will soon run out of other people’s money to waste.

    2. Mickey Taking
      May 23, 2025

      previously the carnage was done over the 5 year term, this one has done more in 5 months!

  6. Lifelogic
    May 23, 2025

    Netanyahu says Starmer, Macron and Carney on ‘wrong side of history’ after Washington DC killings
    The Israeli prime minister said the leaders of the UK, France and Canada were “on the wrong side of humanity” after criticising Israel’s approach in Gaza.

    He is surely correct, Lammy is particularly dire as are many in the BBC.

  7. David Peddy
    May 23, 2025

    All good questions and the answer is because this so called government do not know what they are doing

    1. Ian
      May 23, 2025

      David, they certainly know what they’re doing. It’s sabotage of the country by a quitting administration working for the WEF and UN. They know exactly what they are doing.

      1. Sharon
        May 23, 2025

        Ian

        I agree! They know what they’re doing, it’s deliberate. It’s part of the the Great Reset.

    2. MPC
      May 23, 2025

      I think they know exactly what they’re doing, I just wish they were more honest about it. Starmer has said he thinks immigration laws are inherently racist, just as Jack Straw said to his civil servants that Michael Howard’s asylum rules were when Straw became Home Secretary in 1997. There’s much more of the same and worse to come from this government. See Rachel Reeves’ recent Guardian interview when she confirmed that the EU reset is to continue. Just imagine what they’ll do in their last few months in office. It will make Gordon Brown’s spiteful increase in the marginal rate of income tax look insignificant.

    3. Ian B
      May 23, 2025

      @David Peddy – it would be wrong to suggest they don’t know what the are doing, they are creating a WEF Socialist state with the ex-editor of a Marxist Paper at the helm. Champagne Socialist rejoice the minions will provide

  8. Paul Freedman
    May 23, 2025

    I believe item 2 could be solved quite easily – surging illegal migration. I believe we should remove the main pull factors yet honour our human duty to genuine refugees:
    1) Remove any possibility of British citizenship and housing for all illegal migrants and genuine refugees.
    2) Illegal migrants should be deported immediately.
    3) Build detention centres for genuine refugees to stay in until their domestic situation is deemed safe again (funded from the current GBP 8bn hotel costs / year as well as the foreign aid budget – there is therefore ample money to afford them).
    4) The detention centres must be comfortable and sociable for the genuine refugees. There would be TV, libraries, kitchens, lounges, indoor and outdoor activities, health and safety, NHS access and education for children etc. It will be a massive improvement on the predicament they were fleeing and they will welcome it.
    5) The refugees must not work but they would have GBP 49.18 per person, per week and free, nourishing food which will be supplied in the detention centres.
    The reason I believe this solution would work is both illegal migrants and genuine refugees won’t bother to come to the UK anymore when there are better and easier prospects for citizenship and housing in France, Germany, Italy etc. Our flood of incoming illegal migrants will stop altogether and the genuine refugees will become a trickle.

    1. Michelle
      May 23, 2025

      A sensible set of steps to solve a problem encouraged by successive governments.
      The answer to the problem does not lie in jazzy catchphrases i.e ‘smash the gangs’.
      The answer is to smash the pull factor.

    2. Dave Andrews
      May 23, 2025

      Put them in detention centres with nothing to do, which will signal coming to the UK uninvited is a dead end. Anything more than basic porridge to be supplied by charities, not the British taxpayer.

      1. Mickey Taking
        May 23, 2025

        or even, what are they doing now, given all found and no jobs?

  9. Mark B
    May 23, 2025

    Good morning.

    Good morning.

    I care not for this supposed spat. It will be the Markets and then the IMF that will have the final say.

    1. IanT
      May 23, 2025

      That’s certainly the direction of travel Mark – the Bond Markets are already on the march…

  10. Bloke
    May 23, 2025

    ‘Spendthrifts with wrong priorities’ sums up this Labour shower accurately. They do so much that is so wrong. If they began training UK doctors, nurses, dentists and other essential operators, many matters could be remedied within seven years. Much else they could do would lead to far earlier improvements, counteracting worse outcomes. Instead they waste and waste more on idiotic actions against the interests of the UK.

    Today, they claim that immigration has reduced. It has not; it has increased. It is merely the rate of increase that has reduced. Conservatives acted to reduce it, only because they had been so remiss, and circumstances forced them to do so.

  11. oldwulf
    May 23, 2025

    Sir

    Maybe the aim of this “battle” is to try and create some positive PR for Reeves ?

  12. Donna
    May 23, 2025

    Why?

    Because Two-Tier is an International Socialist who supports the Establishment’s long-term aim of building a “One World Government” and an “international rules-based order.”

    It is irrelevant to him that 80% of the countries in the world do not, and will not, sacrifice their country’s interests on the nonsense emanating from the UN and its global quangocracy.

    The Establishment supports the aims of UN Agenda 21 and UN Agenda 2030 and is implementing them in the UK, currently via the Red Branch of the Westminster Uni-Party. Previously, they were implementing them via the Blue Branch, which is why the fundamental policies responsible for wrecking our economy don’t change when the colour of the Government’s rosette changes.

    Theresa May signed us up to the UN’s Global Compact for Migration with NO mandate: that’s why we have mass immigration, despite voting against it for decades and it is why our money is being showered on migrants (legal or illegal). And it won’t stop because she committed us to their aim of “safe, orderly and regular migration.”
    https://refugeesmigrants.un.org/migration-compact
    Fortunately, it isn’t LEGALLY binding. So a Reform Government could scrap it. The Uni-Party won’t.

    1. Sharon
      May 23, 2025

      Donna

      Thanks for this explanation. That’s my understanding of the situation too.

    2. Bryan Harris
      May 23, 2025

      Well said Donna – your words align with mine.

  13. Wanderer
    May 23, 2025

    Labour governments in the past have had some bad ideas, but surely never so many at the same time?

    In our recent Tory 14 years there were some big, awful decisions (to screw up Brexit, introduce Net Zero, allow massive immigration) and some less big, but damaging ones (HS2). But not so many crazy, damaging, election-promise-busting ones as the current version of the Uniparty.

    Again I ask: do you have any candidates for a worse administration since 1945?

  14. Paul Wooldridge
    May 23, 2025

    Why indeed? No one seems to be able to explain why these potentially suicidal actions are being taken.
    Why have we given away our fishing rights to the EU for a further 12 years when we already had a 3 year agreement?
    Why has the Chagos deal not been voted on in Parliament?
    Why has the EU reset not been voted on in Parliament when Brexit was extensively debated and voted on.
    Why has nothing happened about nationalising part of the railways?
    What’s happened to British Energy Limited which was in the Labour manifesto?
    Why are we continuing on a course of self destruction so far as net zero goes when other countries are talking about it but not doing it?
    Why did the EU reset not mention about helping the UK on illegal immigration,and the money we’ve already given to France to police the issue; it only refers to Egates, and little things to speed us Brits through the foreign airports but nothing of substance.The EU must be loving this.
    It seems very clear that doing any sort of deal regardless of quality and content is better than no deal at all, so this Government can stand up in Parliament and tell everyone that they did this and that and how successful they’ve been but without regard to the consequences.
    I believe Sir Keir Starmer is a weak PM who has much stronger and determined MP’s below him and I also believe he is slowly losing control of his own party which means sooner or later there will be a challenge for the top job!

    1. Ian B
      May 23, 2025

      @Paul Wooldridge – more like assisted dying. All small minded people huff & Puff to avoid there job and the consequences of their own personal failures

  15. Old Albion
    May 23, 2025

    Because Starmer is a rabid Europhile and Anglophobe.

    1. Ian B
      May 23, 2025

      @Old Albion – along with his Government , his collective responsibility cabinet and the majority in Parliament( Lets not forget if the majority of Parliament wasn’t on the same page as him these things wouldn’t be happening)

    2. Dave Andrews
      May 23, 2025

      I don’t think Starmer himself is an anglophobe, but the rows of anarchists and critical race theory students behind him are another matter, voted into office by enemies of the UK foolishly given a vote.

  16. jerry
    May 23, 2025

    “Why are we paying large sums to Mauritius to give away islands we legally own?”

    Do we, did we, legally I mean, there seems some doubt.
    This is another situation were the true facts are hard to come-by, meaning there is a lot of hyperbole in their place, those who know can’t say (due to the OSA), those who do not spread half-truths, theories or just damned lies.

    “Why are we signing up to a more powerful and expensive World Health Organisation?”

    Why not, other than the usual conspiracy theories about want-to-be despots taking control of the world

    “Why might we give money to the EU for their defence?”

    Because we already do! Out of 33 members of NATO 29 are European countries, of those the majority are members of the EU, candidate countries or members of the EEA/EFTA, European defense spending plays into the what is available to NATO. What is more, the current POTUS has threatened on more than one occasion to walk away from NATO, bluff perhaps, but then perhaps not.

    1. jerry
      May 23, 2025

      On European security. Did our host object to the cost of the BAOR, between 1945-1994, and then as BFG until 2020, units whose primary job would have been to defend Germany, not the UK nor our protectorates.

      1. hefner
        May 23, 2025

        How many in here do know that President Trump is supporting the PM’s deal on Chagos Islands?
        gov.uk 22/05/2025 ‘PM’s remarks at press conference on Diego Garcia’.

        1. Martin in Bristol
          May 23, 2025

          It isn’t surprising hefner.
          The deal is very costly for the UK
          But the USA pay nothing extra so they’re not bothered.

          1. jerry
            May 24, 2025

            @MiB; But not as expensive as the alternatives, and doing nothing was not an option, unless you propose downgrading a key military asset, or loosing it altogether.

        2. Martin in Bristol
          May 24, 2025

          Jerry
          Doing nothing was the best option.
          There is no enforceable way of the UK losing or downgrading.
          Unless you think Mauritius would decide to invade.
          But we decided to give it away in the worst foreign policy territory decision seen in decades.

          1. jerry
            May 24, 2025

            @MiB; That was clearly not the opinion of those who are in a better place to judge, such as the MOD, the Pentagon, UK and US Intl agencies etc.

          2. Martin in Bristol
            May 24, 2025

            Might have been nice to ask those living there and see what they want before giving the islands away.
            PS
            The court has no power of enforcement over the UK.
            Purely advisory.
            Look it up Jerry.

          3. jerry
            May 24, 2025

            @MiB; “Might have been nice to ask those living there and see what they want before giving the islands away.”

            I agree, perhaps the British should have asked the Îlois before banishing them from their homes and lifestyle…

            “The court has no power of enforcement over the UK.”

            Of course you might not be bothered that the UK’s international reputation would be in tatters had we ignored such an ICJ judgement, and whilst the ICJ judgement might well be “advisory”, the vote at the United Nations General Assembly is not (116 voted to ratify the ICJ judgment, 55 abstained, 6 voted against). We now have a legally binding lease/agreement with Mauritius, in much the same way as the USA has with Cuba for the base at Guantánamo Bay.

            “Look it up” you cry!

            If only *you* would look some hard facts up, stop accepting on a platter whatever you are told, simply because it chimes with yours or others politics, and then accuse other of being ignorant.

          4. Martin in Bristol
            May 25, 2025

            Usual contrary bluster from you Jerry
            Your extremist views on International Law means that we are therefore governed by the UN and its courts as you state we must implement every decision they announce.
            Might as well just close down our Parliament and abandon elections
            And quite obviously you didn’t look it up.
            The ICJ is purely advisory on this issue.

          5. jerry
            May 25, 2025

            Usual contrary bluster from you Martin.
            Did you actually bother to read more than my name before replying, it seems not, as you still carry on with a diatribe about the ICJ, totally ignored the fact that the USA lease a base from Cuba.

            Your extremist views on International Law means that Brexit is not enough, you now want the UK to leave the UN, only ROUGE Sates act that way. Your attitude, oh let’s just ignore international laws and judgements that don’t suite my politics, is what gives people such Putin the courage to do what he is doing in the Ukraine, what China does in their disputed regions for example.

            And quite obviously you didn’t check the facts.
            The ICJ might be purely advisory on this issue, the United Nations General Assembly is not.

            Reply Love the idea of Rouge states. Which are these red states that have left UN?

          6. Martin in Bristol
            May 25, 2025

            Carry on Jerry with your views and eventually you will be ruled by unelected World bodies.
            A subservient surf doing as you are told by them.
            I repeat the ICJ ruling was advisory.
            We had no need to act.
            The people on these islands were not clamering to instead be ruled over by Mauritius.
            PS
            We have a veto on UN decisions as a member of the security council.
            Do you not check before you make such ridiculous claims?

      2. jerry
        May 25, 2025

        @MiB; Carry on Martin with your logic and eventually you will be ruled by an unelected govt with only other despots for allies.

        You can repeat what our hosts says about the ICJ all you like, the fact is we did have to act due to the later aforementioned vote at the UN General Assembly, a vote our host strangely failed to mention. We had every reasonable excuse to stall (veto) the proposed agreement during a period of unstable government in Mauritius but that excuse vanished in early Nov 2024.

        As for UN Vetos, indeed, so why did the USA, during Trump 1.0 tenure, not use their veto, instead simply voting with the UK, given this settlement deal is apparently so dangerous to US interests at the Diego Garcia base. Do as you keep telling me to do, go check the facts Martin, for pity sake.

        Reply A UN General A vote is not binding.

        1. Martin in Bristol
          May 25, 2025

          Give up Jerry you are wrong.

    2. Dave Andrews
      May 23, 2025

      We legally own it just as much as any other UK territory. After all, England isn’t going to be given back to the Britons.
      Mauritius certainly has no grounds to claim it.
      If the idea is to end British colonialism, it’s hardly an improvement to replace it with Mauritius colonialism.

      1. jerry
        May 23, 2025

        @Dave Andrews; “We legally own it just as much as any other UK territory.”

        That is a matter of depute, who has rightful claim.

        “Mauritius certainly has no grounds to claim it.”

        Except they do and have a far better claim on the islands than many, both historical and geographical.

        “it’s hardly an improvement to replace it with Mauritius colonialism.”

        Why ever not, for one thing should the Ilois ever return to the islands they are genetically and culturally related to the indigenous people of Mauritius.

    3. Sam
      May 23, 2025

      Another post from you where you seem desperate to just be contrary Jerry.
      I reckon if someone said they prefer black you would post saying…no, white is better.

      1. jerry
        May 23, 2025

        @Sam; It’s called debating an issue, and seems to be what our host wants, given he asks for and accepts *comments*, and has the ability to delete comments that do not obey his House Rules. If he only wanted to know how many agreed with him he would save himself a lot of time by simply having a Facebook style “Thumbs Up” button that count the ‘clicks’!

        1. Mickey Taking
          May 23, 2025

          Debating or anarchy jerry?
          If you don’t like the basis on which he states a case and accepts a level of response not unlimited, do feel free to wring hands and leave!

        2. Sam
          May 23, 2025

          Oh its debating, who knew.
          I struggle to tell if you are for or against various things as you argue both sides of every topic.
          Playing devil advocate is a dull profession Jerry.

          1. jerry
            May 24, 2025

            @Sam; Your comment likely says more about your debating skills than anything else!

            “Playing devil advocate is a dull profession”

            Dull but necessary. I may well agree in principle but not in detail, and it is the detail that matters, thus I probe what someone is actually saying/thinking. Why is that so hard for some to understand, am I unique, I doubt it as I learnt the craft at my schools debating society, run by our local (Tory) MP’s son, many moons ago I might add…

        3. Sam
          May 24, 2025

          But you do play devil’s advocate regularly Jerry.
          Swopping your views from side to side.

          Why not instead post what your opinions are.

          This site isn’t like your old school debating society.
          That was for school children.

          1. jerry
            May 25, 2025

            @Sam; “But you do play devil’s advocate regularly Jerry.”

            Of course, guilty as charged m’ Lord…

            Why are you so obsessed with what other peoples opinions are, so often sans any facts or rational, other than the herding instinct perhaps. Knowing someones opinion is pointless unless you understand why they hold that opinion, their rational, might they be herding you (intentionally) towards a cliff-edge. As I said, if all our host needs is ‘Likes’, he might as well just have a button and count the clicks.

            “This site isn’t like your old school debating society. That was for school children.”

            Not that I went to Eton, nor ‘Oxbridge’; your remark is a terrible slap-down to recent PMs, and many others, who you often support. But you’re correct, school debating societies are for children, and students, not those still in Kindergarten! 😛

          2. Sam
            May 25, 2025

            Strange post from you Jerry.
            Still not sure if you really mean what you say or it’s just a hobby of debating the opposite side to pass time in your day.

          3. jerry
            May 25, 2025

            Strange post from you Sam,
            Still not sure …. etc etc etc

            Whatever.

          4. Sam
            May 25, 2025

            Please Jerry, have the last word if it pleases you.

    4. Steve
      May 23, 2025

      Why do you say we legally own – we went in there took the place over and then turfed the locals out – I don’t see anything legal about that

  17. formula57
    May 23, 2025

    The universal answer is that we have a treacherous political class.

    1. Mickey Taking
      May 23, 2025

      what’s new?

  18. Original Richard
    May 23, 2025

    If we had a king he would dissolve Parliament and request another GE so the people of the UK could decide on the fate of the Chagos Islands.

    1. jerry
      May 24, 2025

      @OR; Once again you show utter contempt for democracy.

  19. Narrow Shoulders
    May 23, 2025

    Angela Rayner at least suggests some cuts to immigration support in her plea for more taxes.

    The problem with this government and the previous one is that they are too focus group driven and not on measuring outcomes. No one seems to take account that subsidy drives behaviour just like sin taxes.

    Why was Universal credit increased by 15% in the last budget, smuggled out under the cover of disability benefit cuts?

  20. Kenneth
    May 23, 2025

    Many in the government are of the mindset that somehow we are citizens of the world with an “international law”. Somehow, we will be globally respected for sacrificing ourself for other countries.

    It’s all a load of rubbish. People in other countries will no doubt think we are idiots. I speak to many immigrants to the UK who thinnk we are stupid for letting so many immigrants in.

    Student politics should be left in the classroom or uni debating hall and not practiced in the real world.

    1. Ian B
      May 23, 2025

      @Kenneth – given there is no such thing as “international law”, its a title given to agreements between groups, in an understanding of mutual benefits. If one party pills out it falls.
      Laws real Laws are made by real Legislators, in the free world that means democratically elected Legislators anything else is just a bogus attempt of personal superiority that has no foundation. Laws have to be able to be challenged as well as being created, amended and repealed by the people

  21. Roy Grainger
    May 23, 2025

    It seems to be because Starmer is innumerate and knows literally nothing about economics. Only yesterday he stood up in front of the press and claimed that the total cost of paying Mauritius £101 million a year for 99 years was £3.4 billion when if he knew how to use a calculator he could have worked out it would be at least £10 billion, but in practice much more because annual payments increase in line with inflation in the later years. He is just a barefaced liar – but we knew that.

    1. Dave Andrews
      May 23, 2025

      The next government should renege on the deal. Send the message that deals with a stupid socialist government can’t be relied on.

  22. Original Richard
    May 23, 2025

    Socialism depends upon making and keeping people poor. We are experiencing a scorched earth policy. Net Zero is designed to destroy our economy and national security.

  23. majorfrustration
    May 23, 2025

    Why does our country lack an official opposition?

    Reply It does not. They have opposed the Chagos sell out, the EU sell out and the poor economic performance this week alone

  24. Ian B
    May 23, 2025

    “I am with Rachel in saying No” sorry Sir John, yes on the one hand but we need to get real the person in charge of the economy is refusing to manage the economy. She has just invented £6.9 billion for above inflation pay rises to Labour supporters and donors. She has just magicked up £30 billion for Starmer to kick the UK Taxpayer in the teeth to give away something.
    Its a massive list and she sits at the head of the table of the collective responsibility for these things. Managing the economy or call it budget is not spending because you can, it is managing what you need to spend.

  25. Ian B
    May 23, 2025

    I like the reference to WHO, an outfit that this shower suck up to..
    “The World Health Organization (WHO) suggests 18°C as the ideal temperature for healthy adults who are appropriately dressed.” Something that cant happen in a lot of homes particularly the elderly, as UK Governments have legislated against it happening, by banning resources, and hyping prices

  26. glen cullen
    May 23, 2025

    825 criminals were smuggled into the UK wednesday; and escorted from the safe country of France…

    1. Mickey Taking
      May 23, 2025

      Smuggled? – given First Class boarding in plain sight!

  27. Bryan Harris
    May 23, 2025

    WHY is HMG spending so much of our hard earned money abroad or on wasteful projects that will never give any benefit to UK people?

    WHY is HMG unwilling to fund the necessities for this country, to allow impoverishment and treating OAPs as cash cows.

    The reasoning behind this is all about wealth transfer, from allegedly rich countries to poor ones, but the logic behind that requires that the West be destroyed economically otherwise the great reset, the NWO just won’t be able to slide into place.

    We have an internationalist PM who cares little about the suffering and damage done to Britain as long as our alleged wealth is given to more worth causes. In part this all about fairness and equality, but again, these are just excuses for the moneyed elites to steal our world!

    1. Ian B
      May 23, 2025

      @Bryan Harris – by sending Taxpayers money abroad it doesn’t circulate and keep funding the country or the people it becomes dead money with no return.

  28. MWB
    May 23, 2025

    Starmer is costing us a great deal of money, so can we get his dodgy pension deal annulled in parliatment if Reform form the next government ?

  29. ChrisS
    May 23, 2025

    In respect of the Chagos islands, this is a case where it would be extremly useful for the government to publish their legal advice so those of us who find their actions completely inexplicable can understand their reasoning.

  30. Lynn Atkinson
    May 23, 2025

    I’m afraid off the back of Johnson-the-Destroyer, this programme is unsurvivable.

  31. paul
    May 23, 2025

    The life blood of of modern government is infaltion, GDP and more people.

  32. Keith from Leeds
    May 23, 2025

    Why indeed? Because Starmer knows he will not be re-elected, he is doing as much damage as he can while he can! You can only conclude that he hates the UK and is happy to destroy it from within and without.
    Giving away the Chagos Islands for no reason and then paying a ridiculous rent makes you question the PM’s sanity. Likewise, the absurd EU reset is based on giving the EU everything it wants, with no benefit to the UK.
    The only thing that will stop the rot is the bond markets saying no more to UK debt.
    However, some blame can be attributed to the last five years of the Conservative Government, during which a succession of weak leaders failed to take the necessary steps to make Brexit irreversible, cut Government spending, and reduce taxes. Now the entire UK is paying for their incompetence.

  33. agricola
    May 23, 2025

    At an undefined time in the UKs political past, governments acted in the interests of the whole population. That at least was their intention. They no longer do. Currently we have a Labour government, elected by a very small proportion of the electorate, finding themselves in power because their predecessor’s 14 year term was considered such a failure that their supporters stayed at home. I would suggest that even Labour realise they have no future so they are in the process of making life as difficult as possible for their successors. I see them as intent on progressing the Orwellian state envisaged in 1984 and Animal Farm. For sure they are not governing in the interests of the UK nation state or the majority of individuals in it. They are aided and abetted by all the undemocratic institutions of government that have taken power in the last thirty years. Many acting against the interests of the population. 7Parliamentry government is a much diluted institution and Labour are further hampering democracy by cosying up to the EU.
    I predict that we are heading for a fundamental reset in four years or sooner. Call it revolution if you wish.

    1. IanT
      May 23, 2025

      I think we will just have to serve our 4 year sentence AG – depressing isn’t it.

  34. Mickey Taking
    May 23, 2025

    off topic.
    New Zealand has seemingly abandoned net zero by overturning the ban on drilling for oil and gas, chosen by Jacinda Ardern the former PM.
    Real world decision made!

    1. glen cullen
      May 23, 2025

      …and so have a great many car manufacturers

  35. Ian B
    May 23, 2025

    The realities of life and progress, as always those outside looking in have a better handle on reality

    https://order-order.com/2025/05/23/trump-tells-starmer-to-stop-costly-windmills-and-drill-in-north-sea/

    The UK parliament this century has been destroying the country, its people and itself from the inside.

  36. Ukret123
    May 23, 2025

    Kier, a son of a toolmaker, is most definitely now himself a fool of a tool for the interests of foreign governments. Is he sleepwalking or deliberately crippling and breaking Britain, killing aspirations, leaving a trail of destruction and a mega millstone on the backs of ordinary working families and their children and future generations.
    Giving up territory like Chagos demands we follow the money as it is daylight robbery of other peoples money, madness on steroids and contrasts with the polar opposite of what Donald Trump as a businessman would do (as opposed to a naive negotiating PM who is expected to protect Britain and British interests).
    Just outrageous and utterly “The wrong thing to do” but spin and repeat again and again (after me, says Starmer as) “The right thing to do” the default nonsense out out by the BBC and media.

  37. Ian B
    May 23, 2025

    The UK’s ‘Grand Old Party’ that this century has destroyed itself from within and has set the country and its people adrift. They disenfranchised the majority of the Country. It(GOP) is no longer there to represent a strong economy, democracy and freedoms. Its overriding historical ethos was working with and for the people, a safe haven for all, creating a steady way forward for the majority – the centre ground, but is now called the hard right by the left.

    This century has seen a stream of what used to be part of the Conservative & Unionist party make a pilgrimage to Davos seemingly to absorb the religious non-common-sense indoctrination of Klaus Schwab. That at its core has a them and us doctrine, rulers and minions’ mentality, view of society as also preached by the UK’s version architect – the Blair. Not forgetting Starmer puts Davos ahead of Parliament as his go too…

    What we have today is a Country being crucified, on the alter of personal self-esteem of a few. A high cost, high borrowing country and people that have had its tomorrow taken from them. The economy, after all that is just taking tax and spending it is easy, child’s play, in this brave new world.

    Today’s version of Government is just following their immediate predecessors in deed and direction, pure utter clueless destruction. Who opened the door and embedded this direction in Society? 2TK and Co does not have a common sense brain to have thought it up. The champagne is flowing for those not paying.

    This lament is from someone(Me) that as a youngster a day out with my Father was to sit at the back a room in Smiths Square and listen to the inspirational talks of the dedicated hard workers wanting to create a better tomorrow for ‘All’ – they meant it, they were the real Conservatives

  38. iain gill
    May 23, 2025

    Another in the long list of things I dont understand about our ruling class…

    They capped and reduced import of cars from Japan, by real and threatened import quotas, some of which forced the Japanese car makers to open production plants in the UK and Europe.

    But now we seem to be allowing infinite car import from China.

    How does this make sense?

  39. Denis Cooper
    May 23, 2025

    Sir John, this is the comment I have just posted on your Telegraph article:

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/05/23/this-is-the-reason-we-feared-starmer-getting-close/

    The worst part of Starmer’s deal is actually the implied commitment to continue with the EU’s net zero policy. Yes, that is where it came from in 2008, as so often the UK Climate Change Act was implementing the EU policy and while we are stuck with it we will be stuck with low economic growth, less than half of the previous trend growth rate.

    https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/policies/climate-change/

    “Climate change: what the EU is doing”

    “EU countries are working to fight climate change and achieve climate neutrality by 2050”

  40. Ian B
    May 23, 2025

    I missed this the other day, certainly on the money and on topic https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/05/23/this-is-the-reason-we-feared-starmer-getting-close/. Not to be missed is the comments section where 90% are in tune with the contributors on Sir Johns site.

    I do believe in a perverse way the EU’s tariff of 50% should also include the UK, 2TK changed the rules after the agreement with the USA and then put the EU even more in charge, they now are the judges and jury on UK trade. Without the 50% the UK become the EU’s tariff breaking back door.

    Better still please can someone find away of getting rid of this corrupt crew, may be the UK’s Head of State could request an election

  41. Barrie Emmett
    May 23, 2025

    Rather late in the day but one needs to vent one’s spleen. Is it incompetence or his Marxist ideology or a combination. But truly a dreadful week in the nation’s history. Thank you.

  42. Ed M
    May 23, 2025

    I don’t understand Trump tariffs on iPhone?!
    The US market is just over a quarter of total global iPhone sales.
    Plus iPhones are cheaper in the US than in Europe and Asia.
    Plus US smart-phone market in US is highly competitive.
    Why would Apple cave into Trump’s tariffs on iPhones?
    Doesn’t make sense to me at all.
    It would drive up for prices iPhone all over the world. Making iPhone less competitive. And so helping Samsung and others (outside the US).
    Whilst everyone would lose out to higher smartphone tariffs in the USA – both consumer and manufacturer (both US and non-US).
    Can someone please explain why I am wrong (clearly wrong – as Trump has to be clearly right because there is also the indirect issue of loss of long-term trust in investing in Trump’s USA – where it’s all about threat to invest rather than incentive to invest!).

  43. Fran
    May 23, 2025

    I don’t know how you can allow this non-stop bashing of your PM and government for all to see. There must be something very wrong with democracy in the UK

    1. Donna
      May 24, 2025

      There is: a destructive PM and Government, working against the interests of the British people, elected “with a landslide” based on 20% of the available votes and offering a Manifesto which they ditched the minute the crosses were dry.

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