The win of new pro Gaza Greens is bad news for Labour. It will mean Starmer’s MPs will intensify the pressure to spend more, borrow more and tax more and give in to the EU and foreign governments more. This will intensify the problems this government’s policies are causing. It will add to Labour’s unpopularity with most of us. They will prove beyond doubt that high taxes kill enterprise and jobs, spending more does not solve public sector management problems, and being nice to foreigners does not boost growth. It makes government financial stress more likely and condemns us to high youth unemployment.
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February 27, 2026
I see the monster raving looney party ie the Greens won the by-election in Gorton and Denton with a back drop of accusations of vote family rigging how can this sort of thing still be going on, anyway they asked the winning Green candidate what she won it on and a presto , Asked about two of her key campaign issues, the cost of living and Gaza, she replies: “I am really clear and really proud about my record of standing up for people in Palestine. What the bloody hell as Palestine got to do with the United Kingdom answers on the back of a postage stamp please
February 27, 2026
@Mick – sorry you are wrong ‘The Monster Raving Looney’ party was always more on message with the people of the country than this current crop of MPs.
February 27, 2026
and campaigning leaflets in Urdu tells us more of the disparity in former English bedrock areas as a new colonial situation takes hold.
February 27, 2026
Maybe the electoral commission could introduce a policy that all leaflets etc must be in english and only english ….if they can’t read english they can’t read the ballot paper (it would also annoye the welsh)
February 27, 2026
Anyone know how big the postal vote was? And how much went to the Greens?
Postal voting is prevalent in Muslim households – just sayin’
Reply Postal voting is perfectly legal. An individual getting a PV addressed to them needs to ensure they use it as they wish.
February 27, 2026
I think in areas where at least 30% of the population knew gang raping was going on, and did not report it to the authorities, it is reasonable to assume that they will not report voting irregularities either.
February 27, 2026
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I agree John, but that is not what is happening is it, open your eyes and you will see that in many cases the head of the household is filling them in for all family members, os’s been going on for years, it’s a cultural thing.
The postal vote used to be for only those who were away on holiday or business.
A supervised vote in person should be the easiest and most fail safe method of control in a true democracy.
The more the postal vote grows the more chance of vote manipulation.
Reply There is nothing illegal about a family member influencing another family member on how to vote. Most 18 year old voters have had a UK education and should know their right to vote as they wish. The state rightly does not have the power to into living rooms to supervise how postal ballots are filled in. If a person is intercepting and filling in family votes without permission then those whose vote has been stolen need to report them or sort it out within the family.
February 27, 2026
REPLY : “If a person is intercepting and filling in family votes without permission then those whose vote has been stolen need to report them or sort it out within the family.”
Isn’t it because votes can be stolen and voters forced to vote in a way they do not want the reason why postal voting should be banned?
February 27, 2026
If the fathers can force their children to wear the outfits many wear they will have no difficulty getting them to vote as instructed will they? Post votes makes it even easier.
February 27, 2026
in some cases it is the mother dictating the dress code
February 28, 2026
It may be legal; that doesn’t mean it should be.
February 28, 2026
Postal voting is indeed legal.
That was not my point.
Postal voting is more open to fraud than other means of voting and greater numbers of Postal votes increase that likelihood.
Family Postal voting will be the phrase of the year in 2029.
February 28, 2026
I would also like an answer to my question or pointing to a site that would tell me. This information should be publicly available.
February 27, 2026
Did they ask the Green candidate what her party’s policies are on halal meat and gay rights?
February 27, 2026
or their thoughts on the Pakistani armed intervention in Afghanistan?
February 27, 2026
This is how I see it, Mick. A government can support Netanyahu’s policy of launching air strikes on Muslims in revenge for the October 7 slaughter. Or it can support large-scale importation of Muslim migrants into this country. There are no doubt plausible reasons for taking each of those positions. But if a government does both at the same time, it is going to get trouble.
February 27, 2026
Clough,
A government could do neither. However, all the main parties are bought and paid for.
It’s a lot cheaper to do that here than in America – but the returns are bigger over there.
February 27, 2026
The green party, once an honourable party, have sold their soul
February 28, 2026
Thank goodness someone is “pro-Gaza”. Genocide in our times – and almost no one speaks out !
February 27, 2026
Despite the uniparty doing its best to repopulate the country it is obvious that the ethnic vote has now abandoned the liebour party in favour of fictional voting.
It was the best result for Reform as it shows their support us solid amongst the general population which is what matters at a General Election.
The problem Gaza Greens will soin be ditched in favour of real Gaza supporters.
It’s essential that 2TK stays in post to continue as recruiting sergeant for Reform.
It would be interesting to j ow how many postal votes were cast.
February 27, 2026
Good for Reform until your general population is outnumbered.
February 27, 2026
Farage has said Reform HAS to pander to Islam or ‘we will lose, we will lose, we will lose’.
February 28, 2026
When did Farage say that?
February 27, 2026
Yes but Labour will never out-spend, out-green, out-diversify or out-tax the Green proposals. If they do as you propose, will just push the few old Labour remaining voters right to Reform. Libdems equally will not out-loony the Greens so the sandals will wander there. Good for Reform in Wokingham. 2 horse race now Reform or Green. Faites vos jeux.
February 27, 2026
Forget casino voting, it is flipping the coin as to who wins.
February 27, 2026
@Sir Joe Soap – you lost me there. The LibDems are out campaigning in Wokingham, the have their council banners up saying how good they are for community and its cohesion. The Local but not living in Wokingham LibDem MP has been turning up at road traffic incidents for local media photo shoot to proclaim how good he and his party is for Wokingham. The others? they seem to be AWOL
February 27, 2026
I am amused, no not really, at the weekly emails seeking my opinion on this that and the other, from the LibDems Wokingham holding power. What seems evident is that they have employed staff to produce all this detritous emailing, followe by reportong back, supposedly to confirm policies and keep constituents informed, when they also point out that our opinion majority may well be ignored and that they will do what the officers want.
February 27, 2026
Electioneering on someone elses ‘dime’
February 28, 2026
Quite – “Engage” is rubbish, it is solely intended to give the appearance of engagement
February 27, 2026
It’s a disaster for the country, but so is Labour.
Thanks to decades of mass immigration and state enforced multi-culturalism, we now have Sectarian politics with a campaign conducted in a foreign language; completely corrupt voting practices in one particular “community” which are condoned by the Establishment because they are scared of being called waycist and economically-illiterate Marxists who are proposing to legalise hard drugs and give every criminal migrant a house and welfare.
Thirty years of the Uni-Party, ignoring the wishes of the British people as they imported millions from the third world, has created this situation.
The only positive is that the national Reform polling of around 30% held up in a left-wing, Labour stronghold: they got 28.7% ….. without cheating.
February 27, 2026
Welcome to the future unless Reform get to implement their policies.
February 27, 2026
@Donna +1
February 27, 2026
@Donna
There is no evidence for ‘cheating’ whatsever. Farage has made this statement without evidence. A previously unheard-of shadowy group calling itself “Democracy Volunteers” has made claims while again, providing no evidence. Of course, the Chair of Reform Mr Bull has immediately claimed “electoral fraud”.
The acting returning officer spokesperson says “Polling station staff are trained to look out for evidence of undue influence on voters. No such issues have been reported today. If the Democracy Volunteers saw evidence they should have reported it before the polls closed. This they failed to do “
February 27, 2026
This is an internationally recognized scrutiny.
But don’t let reality impinge on any of your delusions, we could not take the shock.
February 27, 2026
SG. There’s plenty of evidence of cheating except the authorities will turn a blind eye. Family voting is illegal but apparently not for a certain cohort. There are many witnesses to multiple people in the voting booth.
Obviously this doesn’t fit your narrative, I hope you don’t have grandkids.
February 27, 2026
SG – I read this morning there has been evidence of families entering voting booths together to vote which is still illegal other than for disabled ie blind assistance. I believe it is an Electoral Commission report following observations by Democracy volunteers in 22 of 45 polling stations.
However, I understand that Reforms Chairman has said he doesn’t think it would have changed the outcome.
February 27, 2026
The Democracy Volunteers obviously needed to wait till the polls closed before being able to make a full report. In any case, SG, how do you know they didn’t mention family vote cheating to officials on the spot? You don’t.
February 27, 2026
How do these staff look for influence on postal votes where the head of household collects the post and can control the signing and return of the vote? How can they check on student voting and where the student is living? How can we tell whether the staff are politically biased or not?
Reply We have to rely on the person whose vote has been stolen to report it.
February 27, 2026
Several reports of people voting in groups. If so many parents can force their young children to completely cover their faces and bodies in black all day I do not imaging they will have any problem advising or instructing them how to vote. Even easier with postal voting. I too tell my children how best to vote but that might well produce the reverse outcome!
February 27, 2026
allegations without evidence? Surely not? have you got a mirror?
February 27, 2026
Last summer, Democracy Volunteers published a report on how well the Family Voting Act 2023 was being observed in the 2025 May elections. They found that the required signage informing voters of the law had been put up in only half of polling stations they monitored.
Given the reluctance of election officials to implement the Act, I wonder how confident we can be when they assure us that no infringements have been reported.
February 27, 2026
@Donna. Good news in a left wing/Labour area. My concer is the great mass of always-vote BBC-watching moderately wealthy middle classes who think Farage is Satan, find unattractive and the Tories toxic (Kemi or no Kemi). In came the Lib dems in many of those seats at the last election and there will be more. My West Sussex constituency is now stuck in that Libdem rut, after the Tories made themselves unelectable. Beware a traffic light result of Green, Amber, Red holding a majority.
February 27, 2026
As predicted here in my (moderated) post of ten days ago, the local Green candidate – a hard working lady plumber – handsomely won the Gorton and Denton by-election with 14,980 votes, (41%) 12 points in front of the Reform candidate (10,578) – a large majority of 4,402 over Reform. In bad news for Starmer, Labour came third with 9,364 votes
The Conservative and Liberal Democrat candidates both polled less than 2% and lost their deposits, for the Conservatives their worst ever by-election result
Yet another humiliating by-election defeat for the dreadful Nigel Farage and his anti-swans Reform limited company. Despite Farage himself visiting the constituency several times, surrounded by phalanxes of burly minders who prevented him from engaging with the public. Farage, like Trump, is now alleging “cheating”
Taken together, 24344 voters went for pro-net zero parties, or ~70%. Reform and their anti-net zero, pro-fossil fuel policies were decisively rejected by the ethnically mixed Gorton and Denton voters
February 27, 2026
The Green candidate didn’t seem to be saying much about the environment. Maybe she said it in Urdu and I missed it.
February 27, 2026
She used her ‘Miss World’ speech. She wants everyone whether working or not, to have a lovely life.
Sweet thought.
Do Islamic Countries take part? Can’t seem to remember anyone in a bikini and face mask.
February 27, 2026
Indeed but she said “it used to be when you worked hard you got something in return for it like a house it but no longer”. True to a degree and caused by big government, net zero rip off energy, mass low skilled immigration, vast over taxation, endless red tape, the drug culture… all things her party seems to love!
February 27, 2026
Yes it’s worrying that 70% of the population of inner city Manchester vote for a party that would ruin the UK economy, legalise drugs, ban landlords, and supports attacks on Israel, amongst other strange ideas. Even more strange is that its leader and some supporters are Jewish. But as they say up North, there’s nowt as strange as folks.
February 27, 2026
The international scrutineers, before the end of polling, put out a report so concerned were they about the breaking of U.K. election law.
February 27, 2026
So the alleged remark by Reform’s leader may well have some substance.
February 27, 2026
@ Lynn Atkinson
A complete pack of lies. What “international scrutineers” ? Links and names?
February 27, 2026
Well-established non-partisan international election observers who have been going for years. Look up their website.
February 27, 2026
You do take the biscuit sometimes SG. The Greens didn’t win by broadcasting their Net-Zero policies (in Urdu) to the locals. They won by getting behind the Pro-Palestinian vote. We now have sectarian politics back in England for the first time since Oliver Cromwell. Back to Cavaliers and Roundheads anyone?
February 27, 2026
IT,
Apparently our Army numbers are the same as in Cromwell’s era.
Yet Starmer is banging the drum for war in Ukraine.
We have neither the personnel, nor the money to do so. Nor are our youngsters included to sign up. Despite publicity campaigns and outsourced recruiting numbers continue to fall.
February 27, 2026
Spot on IanT …..the electoral commission should force them to change their name ….to reflect their new single policy
February 27, 2026
Somehow I doubt net-zero policies were foremost on their minds when people voted. I suspect that if the bill people would be paying for net zero was sent with their polling cards, Reform rather than the Greens would have won – and even the Greens’ new found supporters would probably be saying -‘never mind Gaza, we don’t want to pay such bills!’
February 27, 2026
On investigation it appears Gorton is strongly non-white supporting Green, while Denton is dominantly white supporting Labour previously, this time Reform..
February 27, 2026
Multiculturalism
February 28, 2026
No, Balkanisation.
February 27, 2026
The Greens, old or new, are the last ones we need to see gaining strength – they have more ideology than old labour. There are suggestions that the voting was managed in some way to give the greens a win.
If that is not the answer then we are back to the old days where voters switched between labour and Tory, only now it is labour and Greens.
February 27, 2026
This was a good result given the options available.
Starmer is finished.
Farage is finished.
Advance with the best candidate, a no show, must fold.
Tories also rans.
The Green MP will blurt out Green policy and shock everyone who missed that detail, and she won under a cloud. International scrutiny not happy with the conduct of the election.
February 27, 2026
Silly girl. When did a 28% vote increase signal a Party leader dead.?
Wake up and smell the coffee.
February 27, 2026
I’m not sure how you’ve concluded that Farage is finished.
Reform got the vote which they are polling nationally (29%) in one of Labour’s safest seats.
Labour came third. The Tories got 2% and lost their deposit. The LibDems got 1.3% and lost their deposit. The Advance candidate (Ben Habib’s Ego Trip), a well-known local chap/podcaster got less than 150 votes and Restore didn’t even have a candidate.
What is the one thing that unifies Labour, Tories, LibDems, Advance and Restore? They all spent all their time attacking Reform and let the Islamist-Marxist Green’s win.
February 27, 2026
Reform got 10,000 votes out of a possible 90,000.
Reform probably have as many Mozlems involved as the Green Party do. ‘Else we will lose, we will lose we will lose’ said Farage. ‘You can’t deport millions of people’ (even of a battalion arrive day by day). ‘I will have a Rape Gang Inquiry’ but like Starmer’s, not forthcoming…. Etc etc etc
Farage falling between two stools. I expect him to cut and run as soon as the cameras turn away. He usually does.
February 28, 2026
The turnout was 40%. 50,000 didn’t vote.
The winning Greens got 14,000 votes (and there are considerable reports of electoral fraud). Reform got 10,000. The real winner, as usual, was apathy.
February 27, 2026
MATT GOODWIN IMMEDIATELY DISOWNED BY REFORM CHAIR DAVID BULL
Matt said the British population is being replaced
David Bull says ANYONE CAN BE BRITISH, you just need a passport
“Are you disowning what he said?”
“YES I AM ABSOLUTELY. It’s not Reform Party policy.’
Donna, We will lose our home under a Reform Government!
February 27, 2026
Agree Donna
February 27, 2026
Silly comment. When did an 18% vote increase signal a Party finished.?
Wake up and smell the coffee.
February 27, 2026
Farage is far from finished. These results are vindication of his party and policies against a cheating opposition. I think it’s 2TK who should watch his back.
February 27, 2026
Agreed Lynn
Looks like we cannot even run and supervise a small election properly, on top of all of the other National and Local Government failures.
It really does make me concerned about the future of our Country.
February 27, 2026
Just had notification from my electricity supplier that whilst the unit rate will go down from April, the standing charge per day will increase, so my monthly payments need to increase by £13.00 per month. !
They confirm I am already on the lowest rate plan they charge.
The difference between government spin and reality. l
February 27, 2026
My standing charges are now almost the same as my energy use, as my house is EPC C. The reduction is being financed by increased taxation or borrowing. The fixed charges are for the distribution network. The incoming mains to houses are now being upgraded. I asked the blokes who are digging up my newly surfaced road how much per house it’s costing. They are getting £4500. That’s £135 billion for 30 million dwellings to add to the charge over the next few years.
February 27, 2026
I have a house which is empty due to relative dying, and the probate office being completely incompetent and taking more than a year to issue probate. It is still being hit with standing charges, even though there is no usage except a few security lights, and gas has been completely switched off.
More than 400 quid a year just in standing charges.
February 27, 2026
Net-zero, the economics of madness
And why is an unmetered water bill double of a metered ? They’re making £500 extra profit from every unmetered household …..government policy is penalising those that chose to remain unmetered ….and thats both parties
February 27, 2026
I will finally get a meter next week after months, yes, after trying what was supposed to be unrefusable.
The bill this next year for 2 of us elderlies rising 40% to £1400.
I wondered about panning the supply for gold as it seems like it must contain it. although with Thames Water sewage much more likely?
February 27, 2026
We have long known that the Greens may reasonably be described as the Watermelons – green on the outside, red on the inside. Their current version has revealed that the interior of the watermelon is putrid and maggot ridden, and only fit for the compost heap.
February 27, 2026
@David Cooper – well said
February 27, 2026
They are indeed water melons: red and black on the inside and green on the outside.
February 27, 2026
The Donald continues to force Ukraine to attend so-called “peace” talks with the war criminal Putin’s regime, whilst under fire. Exasperated at continuing Ukrainian resistance, Trump has now cut off all US military aid to Zelenskiy.
Forcing this brave nation, fighting for it’s survival whilst under direct attack, to negotiate with Putin is akin to Roosevelt forcing Churchill to negotiate with Hitler while the Luftwaffe was bombing London.
Clearly, Putin has no intention of conducting any meaningful peace negotiations whatsoever. At the conclusion of each round of “peace” talks, the same repetitious claptrap from the Russian side is repeated – no peace until Zelenskiy capitulates to Russian maximalist demands.
It is now obvious that the American people have had enough of Trump. His approval polling is dire and it seems clear that the mid-term elections in November will be bad for the Republicans. Many Americans are appalled at ICE killings of American citizens, Trump and Vance’s insults to their European NATO allies, Trump’s contemptible cowering to Putin and his incessant bullying of Zelensiy.
The only thing that is going to end this war is NATO boots on the ground – on Ukraine’s side
February 27, 2026
Are you volunteering Mr Gold or just sending others to suffer like you advocate for net zero.
You do like other people to suffer for your beliefs.
February 27, 2026
@ Narrow Shoulders
And your beliefs are founded in an irrational acceptance of anti-net zero, climate crisis denying, pro-fossil fuels crap that you read in the petro-states funded right wing press. Have you considered moving to Moscow, where the war criminal Putin has just banned Whatsapp, Telegram, VPNs and who kills his domestic pro-democracy opponents with nerve gas and frog poison?
February 27, 2026
Putin is trying to use hundreds of ageing polluting oil tankers under any flag they invent on their journeys around the seas in the hope of shoring up oil revenue to keep bombing the Ukrainian towns and cities he maintains are Russian. Incredibly inefficient use of fossil fuels.
February 28, 2026
That’s quite a jump Mr Gold.
I see you subscribe to the not with us you are against us doctrine.
I must be prospective cannon fodder for you.
February 27, 2026
Zelensky will be alright. He’s got new homes and bank accounts all over the place. That’s if the Azovs don’t get him before he goes. Putin has said he wants a bit more of the Donbas plus neutrality and a buffer zone. Then the disaster can stop.
February 27, 2026
NATO boots on the ground would ensure the war continued. Which is what you want, if you oppose peace talks.
February 27, 2026
It seems the war in Ukraine has now descended into something very much akin to WW1, with neither side able to advance. Quite clearly drones have completely changed the (expected) face of modern warfare. The Russian economy is on it’s knees and Ukraine is reliant on European support to survive. Both sides have lost enourmous amounts of men and materials. How long either side can keep this up is hard to know but quite clearly the Ukranians have shown a level of determinaton and courage that no one expected. The Russian forces appear to be completely demoralised, not suprising given the slaughter of the “Zero Line”. Who knows how this will end.
February 27, 2026
@SG. Would yu really be prepared to see Russian missiles raining down on us, and a real possibility of nuclear war, for Ukraine?
You are welcome to go to the front line, but not to invite it to come to the rest of us.
Incidentally there are reports that the Brits and French intend to supply dirty nuclear bomb material to Ukraine. If true, that is crazy. I hope it would be illegal without asking the country if we wanted to do it.
February 27, 2026
Have you never noticed Putin’s deluded flunkies often threatening exactly same upon UK?
February 27, 2026
SG: “The only thing that is going to end this war is NATO boots on the ground – on Ukraine’s side.”
Perhaps we could try first to stop France, Belgium, the Netherlands and Spain importing LNG from Russia?
February 27, 2026
Looks like the typical Labour Protest vote put the Greens in place, because they could not bring themselves to vote for Farage.
Thus we now have another nutter supporter in Parliament with crazy party polices.
February 27, 2026
That ‘nutter’ spelt out in her winners’ speech just what has gone wrong in England over decades.
Admiration for spelling it out. However, will the other parties except Reform, take any notice …. put down to collateral damage.
February 28, 2026
I presume she spelled out that we should have flooded the country with legalised hard-drugs; encouraged the 3rd world to migrate here en masse with the promise of a free house and welfare-for-life and they would just endlessly print money to give it away?
February 27, 2026
Reform have made the mistake of placing themselves squarely right wing. Their whole rhetoric is as such. They should have gone for the centre ground, but it’s too late for them now. By going right wing they have secured a sizable section of the population but perhaps not enough to secure a Westminster majority, as they alienate anyone to the left of centre.
It’s quite possible to have sensible centre ground policies (see John Redwood in spite of what the press makes him out to be).
February 27, 2026
Oh John Redwood would be faaaaar to the right of Reform. For ‘right wing’ read anti-Authoritarian.
February 27, 2026
which is a great and justified conclusion after the shite politics of at least the last 2 decades.
February 27, 2026
Traditionally voting in the UK has been along ‘class’ lines, this has changed somewhat in recent times, towards economic advantage and social principal ….but this by-election was 100% scretarian ….I fear religion in politics
Parliament needs to remove the people and the status of religious bodies from both houses, government and politics
February 27, 2026
I disagree, it was a well excuted plan by the greens to gain the scetarian vote, they offer that community an advantage …labour didn’t
February 27, 2026
The result further proves that in local elections people vote for who they see as the best candidate for the locality, not for a future national government. Mr Farage can moan all he wants but that’s the simple reality.
February 27, 2026
You think they saw the Green plumber as the best candidate 🤣😂?
February 27, 2026
She is eminently suited to represent the people, the ordinary hard working inhabitants.
Rather better than your wealthy capitalist snide views on the sort the Houses are full of.
February 27, 2026
From what I’ve been reading, there’s the worry that the Green Party will use all the same dirty tricks to win in other elections. That is very alarming!
An electoral watch dog observed in their spot checks of voting hubs yesterday, that at least 17% of the votes were ‘family votes.’ This was apparently made illegal in 2020.
Together with Labours potential response to this by-election – the outcome is frankly terrifying!
As one Telegraph reader commented this morning about the empowering of Muslim votes that the Green Party is encouraging, “Islam is unique, it’s a supremacist totalitarian ideology wrapped up to look like a religion.”
I believe the Green Party to be a danger to this country’s democracy.
February 27, 2026
@Sharon
Rubbish. The only threat to British democracy is Farage now apeing Trump by claiming “cheating” of which there is no evidence whatsoever, as confirmed by Manchester council today
February 27, 2026
@Sakara Gold – did you say rubbish? Reminder Trump lives in a democracy, he will have his people stand for election once more this year and then again 2 year after that. In the meantime 2TK will not have had to stand up and be counted in any election. The USA will have had 3 elections to confirm direction in the time the much damaged UK gets just the 1.
Depriving the people of democracy in its self is cheating.
It wasn’t Farage that said there had been corruption it was something called the Election observers Democracy Volunteers on visiting polling stations and observing the breaking of the 2023 act on permitted voting practices
February 27, 2026
… as *claimed* by Manchester Council, you mean. The cheating was reported to them, they didn’t want to know.
February 27, 2026
why spoil a good story just for the sake of truth?
February 27, 2026
As we’ve known for decades – persuade the head of the household and you have the other voters indoors onside.
February 27, 2026
Apparently there is ‘proxy voting’ whereby someone can vote on a registered person’s behalf. I have an empty house underground renovation and have received letters from the council asking for details of residents for voter registration. What could possibly go wrong, or right if you wanted to rig voting?
February 27, 2026
@Sharon – it is seen by the government and its authorities as good outcome for community cohesion
February 27, 2026
If Two-Tier is stupid enough to give 16 yr olds the vote, the Muslim “Family votes” will be massively increased as the 16/17 yr olds do as their Patriarch instructs them.
February 27, 2026
Spot on Sharon
February 27, 2026
I’m not sure the trick will last, when the regular Green Party supporters will be told they have to shut up about halal meat.
February 27, 2026
DA:
This trick may be possible. Although the Greens will now have a myriad of opposing policies they may be able to use the long-standing and very successful Lib Dem technique of campaigning with differing policies to match each particular constituency.
February 28, 2026
With the bonus card that the policies explained to one side will be in Urdu – so the other (deluded) side won’t understand them.
February 28, 2026
Donna:
Correct. In fact both sides will not understand the policies of the other as one side does not understand English and the other side does not understand Urdu. A brilliant idea which will no doubt be copied by the Lib Dems and posssibly other parties.
February 27, 2026
I am staggered that open breaking of the election rules has been allowed to stand.
I am upset that segretarian racist voting blocs have been encouraged.
this country is doomed.
all decent people everywhere should back Rupert Lowe.
February 27, 2026
@iain gill – it is seen by the government and its authorities as good outcome for community cohesion
February 27, 2026
22 of the 45 polling stations in the constituency, witnessed family voting in 15 of them.
In 2023, the United Kingdom passed the Ballot Secrecy Act 2023 to make family voting a criminal offence.
Although it would be reasonable to suggest the same happens with postal votes, well intentioned but open to corruption.
February 27, 2026
Imagine what the postal ballot looked like regarding ‘family’ (read fraudulent) voting.
February 27, 2026
were all living in this country? just asking!
February 27, 2026
Why ‘well intentioned’?
February 27, 2026
@Lynn – from what at the first stage political good idea. As you and I know knee jerk responces to situations doesn’t make them right
February 27, 2026
This must’ve been so blatant if they witnessed it. I’ve been a polling clerk and we’d enforced the ‘single person single booth’ policy with vigour. We even stopped a disable person being helped by a family member and excorted that person to the booth with the aid of one of our clerks.
Whats described is completely against the rules …and the law
February 27, 2026
Ian he is the only one proposing to resolve these existential problems.
We all have to come together.
We have a sound Englishman at last.
Let’s bicker about the weather or something, there is no bandwidth to bicker about the future existence of the British people.
February 27, 2026
you should stop and listen to yourself sometimes. Bicker?
February 27, 2026
I fear that parties and elections will no longer be about economic policy but scretarian position ….I’m surprised that the greens didn’t offer sharia-law in that constituency as a sweetener
February 27, 2026
This latest election shows collapsing support for Conservatives 706, LibDems 653 and Labour. Reform got more votes than Labour increasing its share. Voter apathy for the major 2 Parties meant a 28% increase for the winning Greens and 15% increase for Reform in second place. British politics in turmoil still.
February 27, 2026
Anyone but the Starmer government
February 27, 2026
Yes JP, this poll was all about how best to get rid of incompetent Labour, just as the 2024 General Election was in many constituencies about how best to get rid of Conservative MPs whose antics and insincerity had become intolerable . It tells us little about what government actions voters actually want, whether that be VAT on private school fees, giant solar farms on food-producing land, abolition of private rented homes or quitting Nato.
February 27, 2026
It is, above all else, very bad news for ordinary people in this country. One look at what is and has been going on in Germany ought to suffice. But if people, i.e. voters, do want even more de-industrialisation, more restrictions on what to build, where to go, what to say – and if they’re happy to spend even more of their (they do pay taxes as well, don’t they) money on ‘helping poor refugees’ – well, who are we to judge, aye?
February 27, 2026
And in Germany the Greens held their noses and approved brown coal fired power stations.
As Groucho Marx said, “Those are my principles, and if you don’t like them… well, I have others.”
February 27, 2026
+1
February 27, 2026
It would be interesting to know what proportion of the votes each candidate got were postal votes.
February 27, 2026
Sectarianism is writ large. A new dawn, and not one that fills me with enthusiasm.
February 27, 2026
We are the biggest sect.
Let’s make that stick.
February 27, 2026
The green party identified the group with the largest growing community ….and went for that vote, and would say and do anything to get that vote …..and they did
February 27, 2026
Surely the Red-Greens are just more extreme version of Labour, they will vote with Labour at every turn. In a nutshell Labour has remained the majority in Parliament and secured it. At best it could be analysed as a vote personal against 2TK, but does it matter they will vote with him.
It does suggest the fundamental flaws in the UK Parliament the quality of candidates and members have to much focus of ideology and personal self-gratification. The will fight the UK and its People but won’t work with them
February 27, 2026
Labour can legalise drugs and increase the tax take – they can then spend that increased tax take on druggies’ treatment. The left does like a virtuous circle
We can increase the country’s GDP by letting in more immigrants all the while reducing GDP per person.
All these lovely left wing policies which benefit the few at the cost of the many. Sounds nice, in reality awful.
February 27, 2026
Turnout was pretty much the same as at the General Election so the votes were shared around differently but the same number of votes.
The 40,000 voters who didn’t show up could just have come and spoiled their paper instead. Imagine this morning if that had happened. Dave Paulden would not be quite so smug and Nigel Farage would have others things to worry about than family voting (which Manchester City Council really should look into)
Spoiling the paper is so much better than apathy.
February 27, 2026
I agree NS
February 27, 2026
Unfortunately, the ones who don’t vote are more likely to be on benefits and just don’t bother. If they had voted, it would have been for the party that promises even more welfare.
February 28, 2026
Maybe but if the candidates don’t move them sufficiently to attend they should at least bother to spoil the paper.
Just imagine Friday morning where none of the above beat the plumber.
February 27, 2026
Now that Pakistan is at war with Afghanistan, it is inevitable that the Pakistani heritage people in the UK will end up in violent clashes with the Afghanistan people the British state has imported here. Lack of integration, segregated settlements, large communities living in isolation not speaking English, it’s not going to turn out well. The political class rubbing our noses in diversity has sowed its own chaos.
February 27, 2026
It will be a “divide and rule” situation …. which is how the British kept something approaching peace in India for a very long time.
However, in the UK the Establishment appears to have lost control.
February 27, 2026
The Islamists and anarchists have found common cause – they both hate the UK.
February 27, 2026
They don’t ‘hate’ the UK, they want to take over the UK
February 27, 2026
So the Greens win Gorton and Denton. A female MP, representing the party of a Homosexual Jew, voted in by Muslims. You couldn’t make it up …
February 27, 2026
Funny!…
February 27, 2026
Its like a starting line from a bad 70s joke
February 27, 2026
It’s like a few sentences from a Richard Littlejohn column.
Add a ‘uman rites’ sentence and an ‘elf n safety’ one and you have most of an article complete.
February 27, 2026
The moslems know how to unite and keep their eye on victory. They look past such details which will be discarded when the right time comes. We have only ever known how to unite in first and second world war time.
February 27, 2026
Absolutely frightening result for the country and democracy. But surely we must have thought that this day would come. Present and previous governments have a lot to answer for. You cannot indefinitely ignore the electorate.
February 27, 2026
@Barrie Emmett – another 3 years before the other version of extremism can get through the door and act as a checksum, then another wait for 5 years in hope with fingers crossed democracy maybe allowed to return to the UK. What a waste…
February 27, 2026
A retrospective on the election, the Unipart first with Blair and then in its conservative disguise started the rot of UK democracy now being enhanced by the other faction called Labour, each seeking to enhance their personal ego. Not one working for and with the county and its people, not understanding the meaning of ‘service’. The high-cost state, the removal of freedoms, a controlling state and the fight to keep the EU in control are all enhanced seemingly as part of the directive from the WEF and its stable mate the Fabian Society.
The ballot box disrupters are needed, the outlandish hypocritical nutters are needed, the protest vote is needed. Yes, as the WEF and the Fabian Society wish the system and structures have to be destroyed. However, I don’t want it built as they do in someone’s personal image, I want democracy back, our freedoms back and so on. The way forward doesn’t exist in the make-up of this Parliament it needs trashing by the lunatics, the extremist’s, with just a little bit of hope that common sense and sanity might prevail and return.
It is going to get a lot worse before we turn a corner. The inhibitor is the extreme lengths of time our so-called leaders reward themselves with before seeking validation of the direction they are taking – 5-year terms, when all real democracies accept 2 years.
February 27, 2026
IB,
‘A retrospective on the election, the Unipart first with Blair…..’
Before I retired, I had few weeks up at Unipart in Cowley – oversight in running down a contract.
Easy work – just an hour or two a day, lunch, then I had the rest of the day to mooch around Oxford city centre. Blackbird Leys was not somewhere you would want to spend much time though…
February 27, 2026
The Greens – the champions? Then in London today those they support chose to deface the statue of Winston Churchill, and as commentated this is seen acceptable by the authorities(the governments own authorities) and therefore a reasonable thing to do.
February 27, 2026
An advert on behalf of the Green supporters – https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/02/27/churchill-statue-defaced-with-zionist-war-criminal-graffiti/
February 27, 2026
The bad news is not confined to Labour, it is bad for democracy and the country as a whole. The green victory is a sectarian victory in a constituency with a 30% Muslim population. I would like to see a detailed analysis of the green vote before expressing my opinion as to what happened.
The Muslim population of the U.K. is about 6.5%. While it might produce the Gorton and Denton effect In other sectarian areas, I do not see it affecting a general election result, beyond diminishing the Labour vote.
The Muslim vote is bad for democracy in that it arises from a segment
of the population that is not culturally integrated in the U.K. and will take every opportunity to vote along lines unrelated to U.K. politics. This cultural divide has been encouraged erroneously by many U.K. politicians in the false and negative doctrine of multiculturism. A doctrine that allows pockets of alien culture to exist independent of U.K. culture. Specifically manifest in education, language and the law. It will be a challenge for any incoming government to face.
February 27, 2026
The biggest reveal from last nights election result was the pathetic level of turnout.
When just 47.5% of the electorate can be bothered to express a choice, it suggests the level of apathy with politics is now reaching dangerous levels.
The 52.5% who didn’t vote, may have concluded there is no point is the democratic process. They may be thinking about taking other options to display their disquiet and discontent with everything now happening in the UK.
We live in changing times.
February 27, 2026
@Rod Evans, as with the GE, that should give the result to ‘none of the above’. None of the above should be a real option – “go away, come back when you can give us real options, comes to mind’
February 27, 2026
At the GE Labour won in their ‘head’ support from the country, the people, with the largest majority with only around 20% of the electorate voting for them. They started their term of maximum damage with just 1in 5 of the electorate behind them.
Then again it doesn’t say much about the other showers, an indication of the shambles and quality from a socialist parliament
February 27, 2026
Daniel Hannan in today’s media – DM
“We are Balkanising our country, moving beyond citizenship as our primary political identifier and instead relating to one another as members of antagonistic tribes whose territories happen to overlap.”
“The Green Party’s behaviour in the run-up to yesterday’s by-election should place that party beyond the parameters of democratic decency.”
“Divisive, sectarian and ready to stoke Muslim grievances against Israel and India, the former eco-activists have dropped any pretence of appealing to voters as British citizens.”
“At one point, their candidate, Hannah Spencer, told her Reform opponent, Matt Goodwin, that the Manchester Arena bomb had happened ‘because people like you are dividing people’.”
“What is happening here is vastly more toxic. We have moved from being a cohesive nation, in which almost everyone accepted certain norms – equality before the courts, parliamentary democracy, religious pluralism, free speech – to one in which we ourselves are teaching groups of our own citizens to be separate and resentful.”
What Daniel missed is this is how the UK Parliament wants it, is not about the Country or its People it is about personal very personal ideology pronounced in every corner of this undemocratic institution. It’s about rule and in whose personal image that rule should take. The anti-UK, anti-British make up of parliament that desires everything is given away including democracy.
February 27, 2026
The result is a consequence of Starmer blocking Burnham.
February 27, 2026
The result is a consequence of Farage giving Starmer a huge majority.
February 27, 2026
With just 20% of the electorate’s votes.
February 27, 2026
Hard to make any sense of such a result. Nobody with any sense would vote for the Green Party, yet they won!
It makes you fear for the future of the UK.
February 27, 2026
It’s far worse than that. The Left-Islamist alliance has developed its tactics and techniques since the Iranian revolution of 1979. In Iran they took the whole country in one go before disposing of the Left and establishing the evil Caliphate. In Britain they’re proceeding area by area, town by town. Starmer’s Gang still doesn’t realise to what it has opened the door: nothing less than the Islamic conquest of Britain. The same is occuring in Australia but it is somewhat behind Britain.
February 27, 2026
47% reported as being the overall turnout. Reform did well under the circumstances, it does say something. More than 10.000 did not want to vote for Labour. It all played out pretty much as many expected. A reliable reporter stated late last night that there had been some official concern re so called family voting. I thought having more than one individual at a time in the voting booth was illegal.
February 27, 2026
The concept model is now proven to work, the Labour party during the last election wrote a manifesto and promised things to get elected ….Now the Green party have advanced that idea by supporting a sectarian approach, courting the vote from one single community and a single international topic ….how can she say she’s representing the whole community of her constituency
I fear that these tactics will become the norm
March 2, 2026
It is adapted from the successful Left-Islamist alliance that succeeded in the Iranian Revolution of 1979 to create a barbaric tyrannous caliphate. The aim is the same but it wll advance area by area.
February 27, 2026
When is there going to be some qualifications requirement to become an MP? It terrifies me that we are being run by people with no experience or knowledge .
February 28, 2026
a bit like the NHS?
February 27, 2026
Good afternoon
I can only repeat that which I heard elsewhere.
“There was a time when the Green Party only concerned themselves with the environment.”
February 27, 2026
Going right back to the seventies when it was instituted as the Ecology Party, it was obvious the left was going to drive out the right. Socialism was going to prevail over Nature. It didn’t take long.
February 27, 2026
I’ve just had a quick look at the green party website and manifesto ….and I can’t see the word ‘environment’ included anywhere …look for yourself https://greenparty.org.uk/about/our-manifesto/
February 27, 2026
“Britain’s military base on Gibraltar will be subject to EU inspections under a new Brexit border treaty.
Spanish officers acting on behalf of the European Union (EU) will be able to board British warships and inspect RAF aircraft under a “special procedure” designed to protect the single market.”
Another 3 years of destruction lined up it has only just begun
February 27, 2026
NI, Chagos Islands, Gibraltar …..Falkland Island
February 27, 2026
Farage said it wouldn’t make any difference if they got in, that Brexit was done and safe, etc.
February 28, 2026
What ‘brexit’
February 28, 2026
Exactly: he said Brexit was done and it was secure so it was safe to let the global communists in. It wasn’t done and it wasn’t secure.
February 27, 2026
Labour is in a bad way with the split votes on the Left and as it revolves around being pro or anti government, they are not likely to be able to patch it up and get all left wing votes going the same way – so at the next general election they are in much the same scenario as the Conservative Party was in with the right wing vote in 2024 with probably a similar result, a massive loss of seats and loss of government. However as the byelection showed while the position is better for the right as a whole it is worse for the less popular party of the right now that neither Party of the right is in government which helps make the Conservative-Reform voters far more interchangeable. In the Gorton-Denton byelection the Conservatives lost three quarters of their vote (down from 8% to 2%), presumably mainly to Reform which indicates virtual extinction unless they either climb above Reform in opinion polls before the next General Election is called or reach a pre-election agreement and arrangement with Reform.
Reply strange deduction re next General election, likely to be 3 years hence. I disagree and think lots will change over the next 3 years. By 2028 voters will be desperate for economic competence where Conservatives have the best approach.
February 27, 2026
My fear is that after 3 years we will be so dirt poor, with so many homeless and unemployed, with food shortages and power cuts, etc that the country will say (led by our recklessly irresponsible media) that free markets have failed and we must now have real communism, i.e. Mr Polanski and his programme to plunder the rich. As most of the rich will have gone by then, that means the working and middle class.
February 28, 2026
Reply to reply.
Would that be the kind of “economic competence” which printed £billions to pay for lockdowns for a virus which the Government had already determined was a low consequence infectious disease with low mortality rates? And then, having utterly wrecked the economy, decided to import 4 million 3rd world, welfare-claiming migrants in just 4 years?
Just asking…..?
February 27, 2026
Dear Lord R,
150 years after secret voting was introduced for parliamentary elections, this avowedly vital element in our democratic system has definitively died.
This did not happen in South Manchester; it was just exposed by the reportedly unprecedented level of “family voting” seen at many polling stations. The damage has been done by the rise in postal voting, now I think regularly 20-30 per cent of all votes cast. Postal voting was actually promoted as a means of boosting turnout.
Filling in postal votes is often private and secret but not when done round the kitchen table or when “friends” call and a dominant person decides for all. Importantly, it is by no means just families from other cultures.
Given the will, it is easy to stop abuse at polling stations. To restore a general secret ballot, however, it would be necessary to cut the number of postal votes drastically.
So why is voting always on a Thursday? Adminstratively convenient for institutions but not for electors. Why not have voting over two days, including either Saturday or Sunday. Why do we not have two regular election weeks, one in spring ,one in autumn outside school holidays or Bank holiday weeks when many are away. Ok, we could not wait if a government were voted out in Parliament but that is rare. And “postal” voting could be supervised for those in multi-person households with temporary voting booths and, if necessary, at the homes of those who cannot get out.
Or perhaps the secret ballot is another tradition we no longer care about.
February 27, 2026
Agree, voting should be 9-5pm saturday & sunday …..politcians from the 2 major parties will say they do but don’t really want a big turnout ….agree it needs reforming
February 27, 2026
If might be bad news for Labour but it is worse news for the Conservatives – and as for the Farage Reform rump? well not much to crow about here either – it seems populism is also on the wane – the people are starting to see through the imported Steve Bannon BS.
February 27, 2026
Labour & the NHS is planning to buy 20,000 electric ambulances I see on one news site.
I think we can all see what’s going to happen there.
I really hope the sensible parties are starting to understand the magnitude of chaos they need to deal with.
February 27, 2026
…and if the people don’t want it, we’ll force it on them
February 27, 2026
One thing about the Greens is they are letting it be known they are not in thrall to the Friends of Israel, the Masons or anyone else and that has to be good.
February 27, 2026
How can it be good to be in thrall to the Islamic Republic and its proxies?
February 27, 2026
They are in thrall to several other groups instead blazes.
February 27, 2026
Nor Greenpeace
February 27, 2026
Since the Greens believe that the bigger the lie the more likely it will be believed, as we have seen with their CAGW and its “solution”, Net Zero, which they lie will save both the planet and our wallets, they will be happy to ply the electorate with increasingly incredible policies in order to gain votes.