Who cares whether Brown is 3rd,4th or 5th to meet Obama?

Can spinning get any more trivial?
What matters is the content of any meeting between PM and President, and whether it is in our interest and the US interest to develop the relationship.
Do we agree with Obama’s warlike moves in Afghanistan?
Can we advise the President to a wiser course in the Middle East?
Can we protect mutual intelligence from EU incursions?
Let’s talk about the real issues, instead of trying to cock a snook at other world leaders for being slow into Washington.
It’s so juvenile – playground tests for who’s whose best friend.

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  1. rugfish
    Posted February 22, 2009 at 8:57 am | Permalink

    He could also talk about how long Obama will agree to Tony Blair parading around the middle east as if he’s wanted there, and he could also ask when he’ll put a stop to his globalisation and multiculturalism exploits through Yale university as it’s clashing with his bigger neighbour Russia and is going to continue to cause problems in his efforts to find a more respectable position with Medvedav and Putin in NATO and on the questions over the middle east and Kosovo, where Serbia is basically still divided purely as a result of Bush’s policies which the EU tagged on to like poodles without so much as a peep out of Britain as to the consequences of alienating half the globe with actions which clearly breech international law.

    I’d be asking Obama, “What’s your plans to fix all this”, is I were Gordon, and I’d be showing signs of support if it is to reverse the problems his predecessor and Obama’s predecessor caused. Then, they can go at the economic crisis together and try to keep our exports in tact to America.

    Whether he meets him on the 3rd, 4th, 5th or even the 6th, is of no importance as you say.

  2. oldrightie
    Posted February 22, 2009 at 9:44 am | Permalink

    To answer your question, James Gordon Brown and the spin-meister battalions.

  3. The Nugget
    Posted February 22, 2009 at 9:46 am | Permalink

    Cock a SNOOK,shurely?

  4. Iain
    Posted February 22, 2009 at 9:55 am | Permalink

    Who cares? Nobody, well nobody outside the Westminster village. Personally I think it all rather pathetic and would have thought our Diplomatic service has more important things to do than pursue this rather juvenile activity of one-upmanship that seems to achieve absolutely nothing. . But its good to see its not just us lot outside the Westminster village who think it an odd practice to engage in.

  5. Pat
    Posted February 22, 2009 at 10:17 am | Permalink

    First or last- if it happens Obama is doomed.

  6. Ian Jones
    Posted February 22, 2009 at 10:19 am | Permalink

    More to the point, what did Brown promise to deliver in order to get to be first? My guess, thousands more troops for Afghanistan.

    Invasion of Pakistan next?

  7. not an economist
    Posted February 22, 2009 at 10:52 am | Permalink

    It was aslo Gordon’s birthday on Friday. You haven’t mentioned that at all.

    Perhaps we should all stand around and sing Happy (belated) Brithday to him.

    1, 2, 3 …

  8. chris southern
    Posted February 22, 2009 at 1:58 pm | Permalink

    Yet more spin from the unelected PM.
    Why won’t he just GO.

    Sucking up to Obama and selling out our armed forces for his own popularity on the world stage does this country and it’s people no favours what so ever.

    I personaly hope Obama tells him where to go.

  9. Neil Craig
    Posted February 22, 2009 at 3:03 pm | Permalink

    The answer is politicians who live by the soundbite do. I had had hopes that Brown would prove to be a serious statesman but clearly the intellectual prudent dour Scot was all spin.

    The answers to the other questions are:

    Yes as long as we don’t have to put more troops in.

    Nobody has ever been able to come up with a wise intervention there.

    We can if we want to & we should want to. Whether Brown can be trusted not to bend to EU pressure is the question the Americans will want an answer to.

  10. revinkevin
    Posted February 22, 2009 at 9:29 pm | Permalink

    Why would any one want to meet Gordon Brown, everytine he meets some one or something things go bad for them.

  11. Bryan Dunleavy
    Posted February 22, 2009 at 9:59 pm | Permalink

    The BBC appears to care and made this their headline. What matters, as you so rightly point out, is the substance of the relationship. Churchill and Roosevelt made it work, as did MacMillan and Kennedy and Thatcher and Reagan. Wilson couldn’t get on terms with johnson and I don’t think Blair and Clinton had a productive relationship despite the matiness. The relationship between Bush and Blair benefited a community of one and as for any prospective relationship between Brown and Obama, the smart money will be firmly against Brown being allowed to save the world’s financial system.

  12. JohnM
    Posted February 23, 2009 at 6:06 pm | Permalink

    If it was a conscious decision by Obama to schedule Brown down the list then honestly who can blame him? Brown is hardly the kind of man you’d invite to spice up a dinner party is he? And that’s even assuming you could prevent him picking his nose near to the canapes.

    Brown is dead politically. He hasn’t got long to go, nobody realistically expects him to be re-elected next year, his country despise him, his party comrades are already planning to replace him, he’s insulted both the previous President as well as his European Allies with his personal habits, his tardiness, his obtuse lecturing, and his willingness to heap the blame on all of them for errors he’s responsible for.

    Obama has shown he only wants to roll with winners. Brown’s calls are only answered because we’ve got troops in Afghanistan at the moment. If I was Obama I’d be booking the world’s real movers in before sullying my PR image by shaking hands with our hapless son-of-the-manse.

  13. Shane Berry
    Posted March 6, 2009 at 10:47 am | Permalink

    What a monster!!!!!!!

  14. Clifford Conrad
    Posted March 21, 2009 at 4:41 pm | Permalink

    Chris I pray that every thing go Gods way and you do not serve any time for this. I pray that you help others

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