Oliver Cromwell describes a very different world!

Someone sent me this speech by Cromwell to dissolve Parliament. I can’t think why I should be sent this now.

It is high time for me to put an end to your sitting in this place, which you have dishonored by your contempt of all virtue, and defiled by your practice of every vice; ye are a factious crew, and enemies to all good government; ye are a pack of mercenary wretches, and would like Esau sell your country for a mess of pottage, and like Judas betray your God for a few pieces of money.

Is there a single virtue now remaining amongst you? Is there one vice you do not possess? Ye have no more religion than my horse; gold is your God; which of you have not barter’d your conscience for bribes? Is there a man amongst you that has the least care for the good of the Commonwealth?

Ye sordid prostitutes have you not defil’d this sacred place, and turn’d the Lord’s temple into a den of thieves, by your immoral principles and wicked practices? Ye are grown intolerably odious to the whole nation; you were deputed here by the people to get grievances redress’d, are yourselves gone!

So! Take away that shining bauble there, and lock up the doors. In the name of God, go!

Best regards

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29 Comments

  1. oldrightie
    Posted April 25, 2009 at 10:54 am | Permalink

    Very pertinent, John. Have you seen the report on the G7 outcome. Scary. Link and comment on my blog. Your insight and expertise would be good to have. Guest it through mine or here as you see fit. I have been concerned that Brown’s globe trotting was always been about trying to broker an IMF deal for The UK and failed.

  2. Pat
    Posted April 25, 2009 at 11:12 am | Permalink

    I believe that both Mr. Cromwell, and by implication you, are maligning an honest profession. Prostitutes deliver what they promise.

    • B Jenkins
      Posted May 16, 2009 at 11:49 am | Permalink

      Really, I wouldn’t have known.

  3. chris southern
    Posted April 25, 2009 at 11:14 am | Permalink

    It would be fitting, but not very well recieved! lol

  4. Donna W
    Posted April 25, 2009 at 11:26 am | Permalink

    To anyone reading this blog, sign the No.10 online petition asking Gordon Brown to resign. Over 6,000 signatures in less than a day – and rising fast. It might not achieve anything, but at least it will let Gordon Brown and Labour know what we think of him.

    http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/please-go/#detail

    • Will Rees
      Posted April 25, 2009 at 12:37 pm | Permalink

      That is a very strange petition that, if you go to
      http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/list/open?sort=signers
      (petitions sorted by number of signatories) and hit refresh a few times you can actually see numbers drop. If it was data cleansing Mickey Mouse 111, Adolf Hitler etc would be gone. Can’t think of a non sinister reason. Which worries me, I signed yesterday (was still on it when I checked) but that is the only democratic mechanism I have ever offered in relation to current government leadership
      A leadership that is riding roughshod over 3 manifesto commitments (EU Constitution, Post Office privatisation, and tax hike) not to mention the rhetorical volte-face on things like no more boom & bust, even Blair’s full term etc

      • alan jutson
        Posted April 26, 2009 at 9:22 am | Permalink

        Will
        Now over 8,000 as the total, and rising fast.
        Perhaps we can keep an eye on the total.
        Then your concerns may be unfounded.
        It really would be silly to mess with this.

    • Dr Nick Ashley
      Posted April 25, 2009 at 1:41 pm | Permalink

      Already have. LOL

    • oldrightie
      Posted April 25, 2009 at 1:44 pm | Permalink

      I signed yesterday. I’m praying it will fly. Needs an MSM mention probably but then Dan Hannan’s didn’t need MSM muck.

    • alan jutson
      Posted April 25, 2009 at 8:07 pm | Permalink

      signed today count now 7,620

    • figurewizard
      Posted April 26, 2009 at 9:32 am | Permalink

      Sadly the petition is redundant given the wording. Within his own party Gordon Brown is already toast and June appears to be the date that they will be showing him the door.

      It is not just him who should be going, it’s the whole bunch of this ‘factious crew, and enemies to all good government’. If not we are going to be saddled with a second unelected Labour Prime Minister.

  5. John Bowman
    Posted April 25, 2009 at 11:37 am | Permalink

    And who shall be our new Cromwell?

  6. mikestallard
    Posted April 25, 2009 at 11:54 am | Permalink

    Do you know what? I am getting angry with the government at last.
    Twice in my life I have been in debt, each time to the tune of about a thousand pounds or so. Each time it was my fault. Each time, I got myself out PDQ. I do know that debt is a kind of slavery.
    Now I am being thrown into debt against my will by people who seem to be using my debt to fuel their own fat cat salaries and expenses.
    I am not at all pleased.
    Cromwell was an interesting phenomenon.
    All I ask is for the parliament to consist of people who are elected and who have my interests, not their own ambitions, at heart.
    A small salary is all you need for this humble role. Good professionals – teachers, nurses and a few doctors and dentists – should be the role models.

  7. John Bowman
    Posted April 25, 2009 at 12:08 pm | Permalink

    P J O’Rourke also has some pertinent words…

    I have many charming leftist friends. They’re lovely people – as long as they keep their nose out of things they don’t understand. Such as making a living.

    When charming leftists stick their nose into things they don’t understand they become ratchet-jawed purveyors of monkey-doodle and baked wind. They are piddlers upon merit, beggars at the door of accomplishment, thieves of livelihood, envy coddling tax lice applauding themselves for giving away other people’s money. They are the lap dogs of the poly sci-class, returning to the vomit of collectivism. They are pig herders tending that sow-who-eats-her-young, the welfare state. They are muck-dwelling bottom-feeders growing fat on the worries and disappointments of the electorate. They are the ditch carp of democracy.

  8. APL
    Posted April 25, 2009 at 12:30 pm | Permalink

    JR: “Someone sent me this speech by Cromwell to dissolve Parliament. ”

    Perhaps that someone should send it to the generals too.

  9. Stuart Fairney
    Posted April 25, 2009 at 12:48 pm | Permalink

    Hmmm…. I’m not entirely certain that Cromwell ultimately proved to be a defender of parliament and thus, this oft quoted speech is not in my view, praiseworthy

  10. Robert
    Posted April 25, 2009 at 1:29 pm | Permalink

    I’m a Yank.

    With very few exceptions, I dare say Cromwell described our U.S. Congress as well.

  11. Adrian Peirson
    Posted April 25, 2009 at 2:41 pm | Permalink

    Another Great Quote :-

    “The modern banking system manufactures money out of nothing. The process is perhaps the most astounding piece of sleight of hand that was ever invented.

    Banking was conceived in iniquity and born in sin. Bankers own the Earth. Take it away from them, but leave them the power to create money, and with the flick of the pen they will create enough money to buy it back again…

    Take this great power away from them and all great fortunes like mine will disappear, and they ought to disappear, for then this would be a better and happier world to live in. But if you want to continue to be slaves of the banks and pay the cost of your own slavery, then let bankers continue to create money and control credit’.”

    Sir Josiah Stamp Director, Bank of England 1928-1941
    (reputed to be the 2nd richest man in Britain at the time)

    Source
    http://paulgrignon.netfirms.com/MoneyasDebt/references.htm

    The Campaign for Liberty
    http://www.youtube.com/user/campaignforliberty

  12. Brian E.
    Posted April 25, 2009 at 4:03 pm | Permalink

    I think all that might be said about this government has been said in the past. I was very much taken by Jeff Randall’s quotation from Thomas Jefferson in yesterday’s Daily Telegraph:

    “To preserve [the people’s] independence, we must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. We must make our selection between economy and liberty, or profusion and servitude.”

    Unfortunately we didn’t have a say in the matter!

    • brian kelly
      Posted April 27, 2009 at 4:48 pm | Permalink

      As an aside, I think it was he who said something akin to ‘if you sacrifice your liberty for security then you will ultimately lose both’.

  13. Henry North London
    Posted April 25, 2009 at 5:08 pm | Permalink

    The Libertarian Party will be your new Cromwell

  14. Donitz
    Posted April 25, 2009 at 6:10 pm | Permalink

    I can’t say I’m a big Cromwell fan.

    Drogheda & Wexford spring to mind.

    Perhaps, all be it a bit extreme, we could take a leaf out of his book and deal with the Socialists in a similar fashion.

  15. Mark
    Posted April 25, 2009 at 9:31 pm | Permalink

    Leo Amery used this speech against Neville Chamberlain in the great debate in May 1940 which resulted in Chamberlain’s replacement by Churchill.

    Like Gordon Brown, Neville Chamberlain was Chancellor of the Exchequer and became Prime Minister without any election. Like Gordon Brown, he was a disaster.

    Bring on another Winston!

    • Ian Jones
      Posted April 26, 2009 at 10:21 am | Permalink

      You mean we need a (person-ed) to sell everything we own at a knock down price to the Americans so we can save the Europeans from themselves?

      The last thing we need is another Winston Churchill!

  16. Denis Cooper
    Posted April 26, 2009 at 11:29 am | Permalink

    According to Antonia Fraser, Cromwell finally resorted to force out of sheer exasperation, and as a hasty, almost impulsive, reaction – not even bothering to change into more formal dress before ordering up a party of troops and rushing off to Parliament.

    Because, apparently, the members of the Rump were refusing to consider a dissolution and a fresh election, and instead that morning they were debating whether to prolong their existence indefinitely, and, allegedly, they were even discussing whether to choose new members themselves.

    It wasn’t what he wanted to have to do; in fact four years earlier, in the aftermath of Pride’s Purge, he argued against setting a term for Parliament, saying that it would be “honourable and convenient” for the Commons to decide it for themselves.

    And only the day before, leading members of the Rump had left him with the impression that they would agree to a dissolution.

    Luckily, we won’t have to send troops to the Commons to bring about a dissolution of the present Parliament; but, unluckily, there’s no way that we can force Brown to exercise the Royal Prerogative and call a fresh election before June 3rd 2010.

    We could do, if there was a legal mechanism empowering constituents to recall their MP, in which case a succession of by-elections could quickly destroy his majority in the Commons.

    But none of the main parties would ever contemplate introducing a system which would leave “their” MPs vulnerable to dismissal by constituents at any time the latter chose, within certain limits.

    That would be returning power to the people; and power which the people can exercise is necessarily power taken back from the anti-democratic oligarchs who control the main political parties; and they will never, ever, allow that, unless they seriously fear an imminent violent revolution.

  17. Deborah
    Posted April 26, 2009 at 7:32 pm | Permalink

    I couldn’t have put it better myself

  18. Mike Cunningham
    Posted April 27, 2009 at 9:10 am | Permalink

    Ah Cromwell, those were the days!

    Or were they? People tend to forget that although the Lord Protector ruled wisely, and generously, he was also just another dictator.

    We have no need of Oliver’s option, because we have still the ultimate in weaponry, the Ballot Box.

    Mind you, the range of legal artillery available to ZaNULabour these days is a great deal heavier that the cannon of the Roundhead’s days.

    Will the Tories be repealing, amongst other anti-democratic legislation, the Civil Contingencies Act, which gives a modern Prime Minister, Labour or Tory, draconian powers far greater than those available to old ‘Nollie?

  19. Kalvis Jansons
    Posted May 8, 2009 at 5:30 am | Permalink

    I have had quite a few reports of strange, and unexplained, “features” of the Number 10 petition system, particularly regarding my “resign” petition. I have now emailed the Number 10 petition team 3 times over 7 days, with my fears. So far they have not replied to any of them.

    Also, the very sudden slowing from 10,000/day to 1000/day at a time of increased coverage, and after appearing on “Have I got news for you”, is very strange.

    One person had to sign up 15 times to get 1 confirmation email, and did finally appear on the list, but many would give up much sooner.

    Also, note SPAM names are removed from my list (as they should be) quite quickly, but are not being removed from the lists for Mr Brown. I guess this is to make those lists look longer than they really are. However, the SPAM comments on those surely make things even worse for Mr Brown.

  20. David E Thorold
    Posted May 18, 2009 at 9:23 pm | Permalink

    Dear Sirs,

    We, the voting populace have been duped. I am sure this is not new, but it is politicians being elected on the basis of false promises, and making a mockery of a fair and reasonable expectation of basic honesty and integrity. They should all stand down. They do not represent us, the electorate, they represent themselves. They should ALL fall upon their swords.

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