How EU powers carry on increasing


           News came out  today that  the UK, Denmark and Ireland lost another European Court case. Opted out from provisions over policing traffic offences, the UK learned that the measure will be revised as a road safety rather than a police co-operation measure, so it will apply to all 28 states regardless.


  1. Tad Davison
    May 6, 2014


    I think you already know that most of us won’t be surprised one little bit by this. It is the underhanded way the EU machine works. It attains by stealth, and then keeps what it gets. But I’d like to hear Mr Cameron come out and denounce it in the most bitter terms, or is this the EU he is so eager to keep us in?


    1. zorro
      May 6, 2014

      Indeed, this is par for the course. If they can’t get a provision through because some countries exercise an opt out, then they reclassify it as a health and safety meeasure so that states cannot opt out of it. This has happened previously and is happening now.


    2. sjb
      May 6, 2014

      Before denouncing anything, please read the judgment[1] and you will see that the original proposal by the Commission was indeed as a road safety measure[2] based on existing EU powers; this was way back in 2008.

      [2] see para 9 of the judgment

  2. Brian Tomkinson
    May 6, 2014

    How much longer do we have to put up with this unelected dictatorship? Remember your leader said: “Because I believe something very deeply. That Britain’s national interest is best served in a flexible, adaptable and open European Union and that such a European Union is best with Britain in it.” ‘Flexible’ and ‘adaptable’ meaning no doubt that if they can’t get their own way by one means they will force it through by another. What Cameron really meant was that his job is to ensure that the UK remains under this anti-democratic foreign organisation come what may. Those who want to see the UK leave the EU are not represented by the Conservative party.

    1. yulwaymartyn
      May 6, 2014

      Your last line: really? I read somewhere recently that 37% of Conservative voters want to stay in the EU

      1. Brian Tomkinson
        May 7, 2014

        The 37% will be happy then, as at least 70% of Conservative MPs want to keep us in the EU. I want to leave the EU and see no point in voting for a party that wants, and is determined, to keep us in.

  3. Jagman 84
    May 6, 2014

    Was there ever any hope of winning this ruling? Or any other, for that matter? Expect our Whitehall machine to meekly implement the ruling while our “friends” in the rest of the EU quietly ignore it.

  4. Edward2
    May 6, 2014

    Presumably as further sovereign powers are yet again passing from the UK to the EU we will now be having a referendum asking us if we approve.
    I’m sure they said we would, when this sort of thing happens.
    OK, next time then perhaps.

  5. Lifelogic
    May 6, 2014

    Well this is clearly just what Cameron types the socialist, pro EU, green crap, heart and soul fake Tories clearly want. Absolutely anything at all can be construed as a health and safety issue by a suitably “motivated” EU court we clearly need out now.

    Will they shortly force us to drive on the right – probably starting with heavy goods vehicles one year, cars and light vans next, motor bikes and cyclists the year after – so as to give us time to adjust? It sounds like a typical ill conceived EU plan.

    1. A different Simon
      May 6, 2014

      Faced with socialist, pro EU, green crap Mr Cameron and socialist, pro EU, green crap Mr Miliband I’m starting to think the latter might actually be preferable .

      Sure Ed will help himself to my pension , nationalise things which shouldn’t be and destroy my investments but there is some chance that he will eventually come to his senses before it is too late – as it was for Mrs T .

      He might even become patriotic , something unlikely for Cameron and impossible for Clegg .

      He’s a bit awkward but seems to have a sense of decency about him .

      I still can’t believe the TUC and the Labour party , historically the only E.U. sceptic party of the cartel , sold out so cheaply over the E.U.

      1. APL
        May 7, 2014

        A different Simon: “socialist, pro EU, green crap Mr Miliband I’m starting to think the latter might actually be preferable .”

        At least Milibrain ‘does what it says on the can’. One of the most repulsive things about the Tory party, is that it pretends to be something it is not.

        We know the Tory party is a socialist party, it knows we know, but it keeps lying all the same.

  6. Kenneth
    May 6, 2014

    As this is a de facto treaty change, at last we can now have our eu referendum right away.

    1. Jennifer A
      May 7, 2014


      I’d have settled for a pause from any new changes from the EU until the promised referendum – the PM knowing that there is great unease in the nation over the EU.

      A lot can change within three years. As there is no pause in the increase of EU powers I cannot believe that the PM is serious about his promises.

      Also – it does not help the cause of the Europhiles within the Tory party to complain that they are powerless to eject terrorists or imprison people because of the EU.

      Why are they not surprised, then, when people think of the EU as a bad thing and so switch to a party which promises them ‘Out’ ? And – as I ask in a later blog post – does the UK government have much control over anything, be they Lib, Lab or Con and are we really putting it all at risk by voting UKIP ?

  7. Iain Gill
    May 6, 2014

    Have you seen the Simpsons episode where Bart walks up the street and every single shop is a Starbucks? (Sorry the cultural level has moved from Shakespeare…) It made me laugh so much when I first saw it.

    Anyways today I have been walking around leafy, affluent, Conservative heartland… and every single window has a UKIP poster up… looks to me like the politically correct open doors immigration bow down to Brussels political class is in for a shock. Sorry John its not what you want to hear but that’s reality.

  8. Nick
    May 6, 2014

    Yet another substantial transfer of power.

    And what was the promise? Oh yes. Transfers of power need a referenda

    Will we get one?

    No. The promise was a lie to get elected.

  9. alan jutson
    May 6, 2014

    Why am I not surprised.

    Just add it to the list.

  10. Chris S
    May 6, 2014

    Is this not an example of powers being shifted to Brussels ? IF so it should be triggering a referendum.

    Or do they have to be “significant” powers with the definition of “significant” being stitched up by Clegg, Cameron and Miliband ?

    If that’s the case, “Significant” is going to be nothing less than Brussels engineering the deposing of the Queen and her replacement with Barroso or Van Rumpuy as unelected President of the UK.

  11. Ian B
    May 7, 2014

    And this is why those of us of a EUsceptic bent don’t believe that any “renegotiation” Mr Cameron achieves will be worth the paper it is written on. I keep imagining him three years from now stepping off a plane, waving a piece of paper and promising “EU opt outs in our time”.

    This is just not a system that anyone who wants to live in a liberal democracy should be involved with.

  12. Ex-expat Colin
    May 7, 2014

    Explains the pic of Roger Helmer kipping in the EU parliament. Despite UKIP not recognising the EU anyway, they know we just cannot influence much at all.

    Yep, I await the RHD-LHD flip. My Ford is part way there with handbrake mounted to pax side, so a hint is apparent from earlier manufacturing. Just need the swap bits…NOT!

  13. The PrangWizard
    May 7, 2014

    And I suppose as usual, the Euro fanatics and jobsworths in our overbearing bureaucracy implementing the rulings will probably add some extras to prove their loyalty to the project and then enforce them with far more vigour than do most other countries in the EU, and the BBC will tell us how much we will benefit if we just keep bending the knee.

  14. Bob
    May 7, 2014

    If the UK repealed the European Communities Act we could then reverse those pieces of legislation that are of no benefit and take back control of our borders. This would enable us to properly budget for future demands on housing and other public services; something which is not possible under the open borders system.

  15. Roy Grainger
    May 7, 2014

    Of course. It is rather like the USA where CO2 has been classified as a pollutant and so the Environmental Protection Agency can impose limits on it bypassing Congress. Many things can be classified as safety or environmental issues to bypass elected governments.

  16. bigneil
    May 7, 2014

    Just as TB lied about immigration to damage the country for the following party – is DC now doing the same to leave it in as big a mess as he can for the time of the next election? – (do people come ed) only be for what they can get for nothing. The country is being destroyed. No doubt the destroyers, who have orchestrated this, have enough set aside to emigrate when the job is done.

  17. Denis Cooper
    May 7, 2014

    Not to worry, JR; according to the FT yesterday a French lawyer thinks that Cameron would be able to get a “political declaration” about “ever closer union”, and that would no doubt cause the eurofederalists on the EU’s Court of Justice to stop and think hard before they handed down yet another judgement heavily biased in favour of promoting that process.

    “Legal loopholes for David Cameron on EU treaty, says top lawyer”

    Not a legally binding treaty change, of course, but just a non-binding declaration, on a par with an election manifesto in terms of its legal value.

    I guess that the so-called “judges” would think hard for at least a millisecond before they decided that the solemn and legally binding commitment to a process of “ever closer union” enshrined in the preambles to the EU treaties as ratified by the member states carried a hundred times more weight that a subsequent non-binding declaration by politicians purporting to qualify and dilute that commitment, a declaration they only made for the sake of providing Cameron with a figleaf.

    What do you think?

    Reply: I opposed Nice Amsterdam and Lisbon at the time and do not now accept them. I want a new relationship with the EU based on trade. Above all I want us to have a vote on whether to stay or leave, which only a Conservative governemtn will deliver.

  18. Atlas
    May 7, 2014

    …yet another reason for us to depart from this nightmare…

  19. Lindsay McDougall
    May 8, 2014

    There’s a simple way out of this – just stop recognising the European Court.

    The faint hearts among you should listen to the words of an old Paul Simon song: “There must be 50 ways to leave your lover.”

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