The Better Stay in Europe campaign seek more endorsements from past famous people

The Better Stay in Europe enthusiasts are working the Ouija boards hard to tell us how famous celebrities now dead would want to vote in our referendum. We on the leave side prefer to concentrate on the living who have votes and voices so their views are easier to hear and more telling on the day.

Rumour has it that recent attempts at BSE séances have had mixed responses. It is perhaps inevitable that Julius Caesar and Napoleon would both favour us staying in the EU, but BSE are a bit shy about revealing that. More worrying for them would be Elizabeth 1’s stubborn support for leave on the basis that she could never herself countenance the Spanish government having some role in the government of England. Nor did they get very far with Pitt the Elder or the Younger who both thought the UK capable of running its own affairs successfully.

It appears that contacting past celebrities has its dangers. For my part I stick to my view that it is a meaningless question to ask. They were great in their day, but they cannot be brought back to life to express an opinion on modern political controversies.

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34 Comments

  1. Horatio
    Posted February 9, 2016 at 5:14 am | Permalink

    Lies, damn lies and CMD..

    So CMD says no electioneering and campaigns anyway.

    Cam says French will close Jungle and it will move to Kent where social services and local infrastructure are already at breaking point. The French say ‘non’ this is untrue aka scaremongering. . Is it any wonder that those communities near ports and most effected by migrants want OUT?

    NHS better due to migrant health workers says CMD. Actually, ‘migrants are pushing NHS to breaking point’ says Prof Angus Dalgleish, a top cancer expert, in Mail today.

    Does CMD , need to be investigated by the electoral commission for gratuitous fibbing. Next he’ll be bankrupting the country and destroying industry in the name of that false religion: global warming. Oh wait..

    • agricola
      Posted February 9, 2016 at 8:58 am | Permalink

      Spot on Horatio. This is playground bullying from CMD. I notice it is the county of Kent that he now targets. The moronic immigration policy of the last fifteen years has threatened the whole country. There is no place in government for CMD after a Brexit vote.

    • fedupsoutherner
      Posted February 9, 2016 at 9:15 am | Permalink

      Next he’ll be bankrupting the country and destroying industry in the name of that false religion: global warming. Oh wait.. ……..Oh wait, he already has! I rather feel that ‘fibbing’ is being too nice, after all, it is the future of the UK we are talking about.

  2. Mark B
    Posted February 9, 2016 at 6:33 am | Permalink

    Good morning.

    The good thing, from the BSE or mad Europhile deseases point of view, is the dead can no longer speak for themselves. Handy when you have nothing of any substance to offer.

    I think most sensible and mature people can see through this and yes, the best way to counter what for me is a disgusting tactic, is to simply ridicule them.

  3. RB
    Posted February 9, 2016 at 6:57 am | Permalink

    The Better Stay in Europe enthusiasts are working the Ouija boards hard to tell us how famous celebrities now dead would want to vote

    >
    If they contact Satan they will find he is pro EU (and I am not joking).

  4. RB
    Posted February 9, 2016 at 6:59 am | Permalink

    Much to the BBC interviewers horror, Michael Caine recently made some comments favourable to our cause.

  5. RB
    Posted February 9, 2016 at 7:07 am | Permalink

    They were great in their day, but they cannot be brought back to life to express an opinion on modern political controversies.

    >
    The ‘in’ camp have the pope of Rome as their biggest celebrity endorsement, naturally.
    Is the archbishop of England supporting us? I wonder? Or does he think times have changed?

    • stred
      Posted February 9, 2016 at 10:13 am | Permalink

      Has anyone put 2 an 2 together and realised that His Holiness gives advice to the African and South/central American churches which is producing huge increases in population and consequent migration to the Northern countries, which have falling populations. The big business supporters of the EU and their political advisors say openly that migration is a good thing, and Mrs Merkel obviously thought it was widely supported too. No wonder they all agree with each other. Infallible policy.

    • Horatio
      Posted February 9, 2016 at 1:29 pm | Permalink

      Thatll be the Pope of rome who covered up chrisian artefacts and relics in the vatican so as not to offend the visting iranians?

      • stred
        Posted February 9, 2016 at 4:08 pm | Permalink

        Perhaps he thought they might nick some, like the ISIS demolition mob did in Syria.

  6. Antisthenes
    Posted February 9, 2016 at 7:41 am | Permalink

    The Europhiles are really scraping the bottom of the barrel. Well they have no choice because they have nothing much in way of proof to back their cause. They have always made bizarre claims but now it appears they are so desperate they are resorting to clutching at straw. Hopefully the British public will not be fooled and taken in by these claims but that maybe a forlorn hope as most hardly think about it let alone delve deep enough to ascertain the truth for themselves.

  7. matthu
    Posted February 9, 2016 at 7:42 am | Permalink

    More to the point would be to reflect on which past politicians did their utmost to argue against giving the electorate any say at all in the speed or direction of travel on the Grand European Project.

    Or at the very least, argued that the time was never right to have a referendum, presumably because we needed twenty straight years unimpeded by any European crisis.

    Best to keep it all under the radar and hope that by the time we realised what had been going on it would be too late to change anything.

  8. alan jutson
    Posted February 9, 2016 at 8:00 am | Permalink

    Like the response with Julius Caesar and Napoleon favouring in.

    Perhaps that should be the standard answer to those clowns who have called themselves BSE.
    We had trouble fighting that problem for a while as well.

    • DaveM
      Posted February 9, 2016 at 2:17 pm | Permalink

      Don’t forget Hitler.

  9. Antisthenes
    Posted February 9, 2016 at 9:01 am | Permalink

    Banks are starting to look unhealthy again. Due to the low oil price their high leveraged investments in oil stocks are looking to be at risk as oil companies low or even negative profits are forcing them to cut back. The effect has to be that once again banks are going to be under capitalised and at risk of failure. Another bust appears to be about to occur very soon. I was predicting 2020 but now this year is just as possible. Hat tip to Mises Daily for alerting me to this fact.

    If this is true then perhaps the current EU referendum may not happen or if it does then it will be purely an academic exercise. Another bust at this time I believe will be the final straw that breaks the EU’s camels back. Good news for us Eurosceptics but bad news for our economy. A situation that will undoubtedly cause social instability allowing the likes of Corbyn to take over government. To make a very bad situation considerably worse.

  10. fedupsoutherner
    Posted February 9, 2016 at 9:16 am | Permalink

    Yes John, totally ridiculous asking what dead people think. I don’t think it’s all going to affect them somehow!! Next they’ll be asking what Jimmy Saville thought of it all………….don’t even go there.

  11. CHRISTOPHER HOUSTON
    Posted February 9, 2016 at 9:32 am | Permalink

    Neanderthals would be for staying in the EU

  12. A different Simon
    Posted February 9, 2016 at 10:34 am | Permalink

    I think you do Napoleon a disservice by mentioning him in the same paragraph as modern day globalists .

    Generally , elitest globalists through the ages have been attracted to the Occult .

    Look at the Nazi hierarchy , particularly Himmler . It drove them insane .

    Look at all the occult symbolism on bank notes .

    etc ed

  13. Vanessa
    Posted February 9, 2016 at 10:54 am | Permalink

    Good point! I thought we had lost our “adoration” of those ignorant twerps. They do a good job of entertaining us but not so good at research and history.

    The West made itself rich and powerful by being a collection of independent, sovereign countries so we had control over how we did things. Republics (a collection of ex-sovereign countries – USSR) do not get rich and powerful until they embrace capitalism and let the markets talk. Stop manipulating the markets and the economy.

    When will we learn to stop experimenting with our successful brand?

  14. graham1946
    Posted February 9, 2016 at 11:00 am | Permalink

    The greatest dead EU fan of all times Was Edward Heath.

    Wonder why they don’t mention him?

  15. Atlas
    Posted February 9, 2016 at 11:05 am | Permalink

    Yep, the builders of StoneHenge are supporting in – they want standardised Henge structures and none of this non-EU Great Pyramid stuff…

  16. formula57
    Posted February 9, 2016 at 11:11 am | Permalink

    Come now! Examples are legion of well-known if not to say infamous personalities being “brought back to life to express an opinion on modern political controversies”, as is shown by such examples perhaps as Messrs. Blair, Mandelson, Kinnock and even Clarke (“Blue Ken”).

  17. Alan
    Posted February 9, 2016 at 11:18 am | Permalink

    Well Napoleon never succeeded, so we don’t know what would have happened. Neither did Julius Caesar, although he did at least get ashore. Mr Redwood was probably thinking of Claudius.

    Claudius’ invasion introduced several centuries of prosperity, and England fell into poverty when the legions left.

    • Mitchel
      Posted February 9, 2016 at 4:39 pm | Permalink

      The poverty after the legions were recalled may have had something to do with raiders from the Continent plundering our native wealth.

    • stred
      Posted February 9, 2016 at 6:00 pm | Permalink

      Well the Romans must have missed quite a bit if the Mercian Hammerwich and Sutton Hoo digups are anything to go by. They were better goldsmiths than the Romans and could even fake the purity. The exhibition at the British Museum was worth seeing, just for the metalwork. We were still trading with the Mediterranean through the Dark Ages too if the Tintagel pottery is anything to go by. Even then the Anglos were even known then for boozing too much imported wine.(re the recent series on BBC by Mz Roberts.)

      Eural studied history didn’t he? Top student too, so he must realise the first EUropean empire didn’t make much difference apart from church architecture after we got shot of them. If he’s forgotton he could give his old tutor a call before coming up with another reason for staying in.

      • stred
        Posted February 9, 2016 at 6:01 pm | Permalink

        omit 1 even please.

    • forthurst
      Posted February 9, 2016 at 7:32 pm | Permalink

      “Claudius’ invasion introduced several centuries of prosperity, and England fell into poverty when the legions left.”

      The Romans were thieves; they came to steal our copper, tin, lead, silver, gold and wheat.

      • Denis Cooper
        Posted February 11, 2016 at 2:55 pm | Permalink

        And take slaves. The Roman Empire depended upon the army being able to conquer and enslave fresh populations. Not like the EU, where the workers obtained by expansion of the EU into a succession of new and poor countries may be cheap but are not actually slaves.

  18. lojolondon
    Posted February 9, 2016 at 12:00 pm | Permalink

    Nice one, John – I really think they totally miscalculated by saying Lady Thatcher would support the EU – surely every single person in the UK – whether right or left – would expect her to be supporting leave campaign.

  19. Pud
    Posted February 9, 2016 at 12:23 pm | Permalink

    I can think of another historical figure who wanted a united Europe, ruled by Germany with French collaboration, but not even BSE would be desperate enough to enlist the posthumous support of Hitler.

    • DaveM
      Posted February 9, 2016 at 2:19 pm | Permalink

      You never know.

  20. sm
    Posted February 9, 2016 at 7:03 pm | Permalink

    Anyone of the Holy Roman Emperors would, I’m sure, have been in favour of ever-stronger European union under one Directorate.

  21. Tad Davison
    Posted February 9, 2016 at 8:38 pm | Permalink

    I bet Adolf would be pro-EU. He tried to do much the same as Merkel and her predecessors in creating a greater Germany that controls everything – a 4th Reich – except their method is to take the continent by stealth, lies, and subterfuge, and not by force.

    Tad Davison

    Cambridge

  22. Denis Cooper
    Posted February 10, 2016 at 8:37 pm | Permalink

    Having a distraction this week I’ve only just read this, and it’s brilliant and merits being spread more widely and repeated at every appropriate opportunity.

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