Congratulations to the Republicans

It looks as if the Republicans have done well by keeping the House and Senate, and Mr Trump may well win the Presidency.

Congratulations to them all. The UK looks forward to working with the new administration, and will welcome moves to reflate the US and world economies. We all need more and better paid jobs, which could be assisted by lower tax rates and fairer taxes which large companies actually pay.


  1. Christopher Hudson
    November 9, 2016

    Whatever people think of Donald Trump that’s another great lesson in Democracy

  2. Richard1
    November 9, 2016

    Let us hope Mr Trump does not follow through on his rhetoric and stoke up trade wars, that will do none of us any good. Equally his sympathetic stand towards Brexit ought to encourage the likes of Messrs Juncker and Schultz to pipe down with their own threats of a trade war against the U.K. Liam Fox, with his supposedly good connections with US Republicans, can now perhaps demonstrate his worth by fast tracking a US-UK trade deal, and get us to the front of the queue.

  3. Lifelogic
    November 9, 2016

    Indeed. Lower simpler taxes, bonfires of red tape, cheap non green crap energy, free trade, freedom, a far smaller state and less “BBC think” PC drivel everywhere please.

    But will the poor BBC/PC/magic money tree/politics of envy types and Luvvies ever get over it all?

    The BBC are, after all, still in total denial about the Brexit vote, the poor dears.

    They were just desperate for the Hillary “Woman” to win and to smash the grass ceiling, (regardless of merit). As desperate as they were when they pushed Blair to his first victory or as they were to trash UKIP with endless racist slurs or deny them fair coverage for so many years. Or as desperate as they still are to push the unscientific, climate alarmism & “renewables” agenda.

    “BBC think” is so often much of the problem.

  4. Iain Gill
    November 9, 2016

    As predicted by me and all the Americans I know. And said it here clearly.

    Shame the journalists here failed to see it.

    I hope the UK really starts to address issues like out of control immigration, lack of support for ordinary people rather than big business, or shifts like this will happen here.

  5. Roy Grainger
    November 9, 2016

    Yes amidst all the noise and bluster the key fact is they have retained both the House and Senate and so can pursue a conservative agenda whilst constraining Trump from implementing some of his more outlandish plans.

    Wish I’d had a bet on this result, I was pretty sure he’d win.

  6. eeyore
    November 9, 2016

    I would have spoiled my ballot paper rather than vote for either candidate. But I still feel for Hillary Clinton, beaten against the polls and the odds, robbed of a victory she must have thought – with fair reason – assured, and personally humiliated in the most public arena there is by a man who must be utterly loathsome to her.

    You should never feel sorry for politicians or journalists, because they never feel sorry for you. Even so, Mrs Clinton’s downfall is horrifying.

    1. Mitchel
      November 11, 2016

      horrifying?hubris is a much better word for it.

  7. MickN
    November 9, 2016

    I wonder if there is a Columbian woman somewhere in America even as we speak instigating an appeal to their Supreme Court to get the result set aside. The people who voted for President Trump obviously didn’t realise what they were voting for did they 🙂

    November 9, 2016

    President-Elect Donald Trump. A great man.

  9. alan jutson
    November 9, 2016

    Will Mr Trump be any good we wait and see, but:

    An awful lot of Politicians will now have to eat their words.

    An awful lot of Politicians now know that ordinary people are on the warpath against the cronies in the establishment.

    An awful lot of Politicians are going to find out they will pay the price in other Countries over the coming months and years in their own elections.

    Awful Politicians are on the way out, the people are beginning to speak and take action through the ballot box.

    The Remainers have no future here in politics if they persist in trying to fight the will of the people.


    1. Hope
      November 11, 2016

      The politicos know this Alan, but they think there are only two parties on offer and the British people can do little about it. They are different cheeks to the same arse. They were warned about UKIP and relied upon survey polls as their information to dismiss the public changing view. How many times have the polls been wrong so fare in recent months?

      The political elite not willing to accept Brexit now trying everything to delay and stop it. Project fear has not stopped. Look at the awful bias coverage from the British media on the US election and the outlandish comparison to Brexit? Look at the comments prefaced with skewed words with no evidence or substance whatsoever. Never challenged always give to condition our minds.

      Thornbury having the bare faced cheek to talk about Trump after her white van man comments! Why would the media give her any air time? Why not challenge her comments against hose of her own? How about Labour’s views against Jewish people? The media are perpetuating this rot.

  10. margaret
    November 9, 2016

    Yes the mood of America went with Mr Trump. Despite his alleged sexist and racists remarks he won. America saw it as the only way to keep America American .They needed a strong person to say stop to immigration .Commentators have said that the results demonstrate the underlying nature of a bigoted USA . I do not believe this. This, they appear to feel is the only alternative.

    1. Hope
      November 11, 2016

      As one black American commented, the poor white folk need as much help as the poor black folk. Trump speaks for both. The point was being made that poor Americans need help and this should be a priority before poor African or Muslem immigrants. The elite are forgetting their own people to suite some globalization agenda that their own respective indigenous people do not share. Trade and friendship with every possible country, yes, but look after your own country first.

  11. Lifelogic
    November 9, 2016

    At least we will not now be at the back of the outrageous “project fear” Cameron/Obama queue!

    Thank goodness Cameron has done the decent thing and is now gone. Thank goodness that we escaped the EU (well perhaps) despite all his despicable efforts to deceive and lock us into the anti-democratic EU for ever. When is the even worse Osborne going?

  12. Lifelogic
    November 9, 2016

    I see that radio 4 rolled out Lord Renwick and Jonathan Powell to essentially trash the president elect and his policies, as one might expect of the BBC.

    Trump will be pro jobs, pro growth, pro lower & simpler taxes and cheaper no greencrap energy. He will not (I suspect) turn out to be a protectionist or isolationist. I suspect he is more pragmatic than that.

    Why are markets falling? They have got it wrong again I suspect.

  13. Excalibur
    November 9, 2016

    So, President elect Trump. What a breath of fresh air. We have been forced to suck on the teat of the liberal left for too long. Perhaps some of the new outlook will blow into the fusty halls of Westminster. I certainly hope so…..

  14. E.S Tablishment
    November 9, 2016

    I suppose the deafness brought about by their ideologies prevented intelligent people from understanding Trump from the very start. Personally, I considered him a very special genius via his communications when listening and watching his early rallies in particular. His rivals in the Republican Party and the extremely able Clinton did not stand a chance against him. No-one did.

  15. MickN
    November 9, 2016

    Up against the combined might of all the TV and News networks the American people showed that they are no longer going to be conned and lied to by the establishment.
    They saw a man who tells it as he sees it without all the spin and liked what they saw.

    This following up on our referendum result in June is good news indeed.

  16. James Matthews
    November 9, 2016

    And we should of course thank all those members of the three main UK parties , together with our two state broadcasters, for so fearlessly expressing their loathing and contempt for Donald Trump during the presidential election campaign. If he is elected this will surely get our relationship with the new presidency of to a great start.

  17. Sean
    November 9, 2016

    Congratulations To Mr President Trump

    I prayed he would win, I wanted him from the beginning. Hopefully this will wake up our politicians.
    The people are still sovereign and you are civil servants, so server or get out.

    We need a Donald Trump.

  18. Denis Cooper
    November 9, 2016

    Blimey, President Trump … the broadcast media here, and the likes of the Guardian, will be really upset by that! I’m expecting that the system will rein him in.

  19. Bert Young
    November 9, 2016

    I trust Theresa has sent a similar message to Donald .

  20. Iain Moore
    November 9, 2016

    The British establishment , political and media, refused to learn the lesson about Brexit, then bad mouthed Trump, now now they have been taught another lesson. Will they make an effort to understand what has happened this time? Listening to Jonathon Powell being interviewed on R4 when sneered at native-ism, it would appear not.

    Meanwhile Nigel Farrage is the only British politician with a direct line to the next President of the USA.

  21. Antisthenes
    November 9, 2016

    It appears the people of the USA are fed up with progressives and their authoritarian and illiberal ways. Hopefully this is a sign of the political tide turning. As much as I believe Trump is not a good choice for President he is certainly more preferably than Clinton. One problem I foresee is that your wish to reflate USA and world economies will be thwarted if Trump carries through his protectionist promises. At least the future looks interesting. No doubt starting with remoaner type opposition over there. Those types never give in gracefully. Vexatious use of all the institution of society is their stocking trade and no doubt the US Democrat lawyers are already planning ways to annul the election result.

    November 9, 2016

    Thankfully Trump has won Pennsylvania. There are many states in the USA I would love to visit, even live there.But I was determined I would not visit a state with lax rules on narcotics..with permissions to use drugs, nor states where Democrats were in power. Or where many people were allowed to just wander around who were quite capable of voting Democrat if not under strict supervision.

  23. Bob
    November 9, 2016

    Marvellous news! 🙂 no empty champaign bottles strewn in the BBC corridors today eh!
    I wonder if Gina Miller will be challenging the right of the American people to choose their president?

  24. ChrisS
    November 9, 2016

    Quite an achievement for a businessman like Donald Trump, with no previous history in politics to win the Presidency against a woman with more experience than almost any previous candidate.

    Of course, following on so quickly after Brexit, perhaps we should not really be surprised. America has more problems and divisions in almost every area of her people’s life than we have and it would have been extremely unlikely that anything much would have changed with another establishment figure like Clinton in the White House.

    For us, Clinton, with her foreign affairs experience would have been the safe choice and, from our distant view, unconcerned about the US domestic situation, she would have got my vote. But if I were a US blue collar worker, especially in the Rust-Belt States and after eight years of Obama, I would have felt that I had nothing to lose by voting for Trump

    It will be interesting to see how NATO Countries respond when President Trump demands that they pay for their own defence – currently the US taxpayer is picking up 75% of the tab. Only General Juncker will be pleased about that.

    In European defence, only the UK pays its own way and even then Cameron had to be shamed into increasing expenditure back up to the 2% level. Nevertheless, most observers suspect that there was a lot of fiddling done to produce that figure.

    As for the EU. It seems likely that Juncker and Co will be let of the hook over the TTIP which is so disliked around the 27 because President Trump is likely to pull out of the torturous and never-ending negotiations.

    A Trump Presidency should be good for Britain.

    Mrs May could well have a better relationship with the new administration than we have suffered with Obama. We are certainly not going to be sent to the back of the Queue by President Trump. He is a strong advocate of Brexit and we may be the one Country with whom he may want a trade deal. Liam Fox better be ready : as a businessman, Trump would want it done and dusted in six months, there will be no seven years of negotiations with this guy.

    It’s just as well that Cameron has gone, given the foolish comments he made about Trump while in office. He obviously thought that a Trump Presidency was even more unlikely than Brexit !

    This morning I have thoroughly enjoyed listening to the entire Today Programme team squirming as they reported Trump’s victory. Like almost the entire US TV and Radio industry, they are Democrat and Clinton supporters to the last. Together with Brexit, liberals and left-of-centre intellectuals have had a bad year.

    I’m now off to enjoy reading the Guardian online and look forward to the next piece from Polly Toynbee……………………

  25. Stephen Berry
    November 9, 2016

    I noticed that Donald Trump appeared on the stage this morning with the same slightly bemused expression that some of the leading Brexiteers had after the June 23rd vote. In their heart of hearts, did any of them really expect it?

    But what does this result mean for the Brexit process? First, it’s good that we have an American president who is sympathetic to Brexit and won’t send the UK to the back of the queue. Second, there must be many mainstream politicians across Europe (especially in Brussels) who, munching on their croissants, wonder what is coming next.

    In particular, it should be clear to everyone now that no amount of legal jiggery-pokery is going to derail Brexit. The UK government should negotiate calmly and firmly to get the best deal for the UK. There is no need to accept the first offer that the EU comes up with in a rush to get out of the EU. The Heath government was so eager to get into the EEC that it got a terrible deal accepting, quite unnecessarily, things like the Common Fisheries Policy. As we leave the EU, let’s be calm and confident and not treat every ‘bump in the road’ as if it threatens the very Brexit process. Ladies and gentlemen the tide of history is with us!

  26. Mitchel
    November 9, 2016

    What marvellous times in which to be living!It’s like a Wagnerian epic – the Gotterdamerung of the Liberal Elite!

  27. Ex-expat Colin
    November 9, 2016

    Does AGW get unfunded suddenly? Scotland. Golf Course, Salmond and Wind Turbines.


  28. JM
    November 9, 2016

    Trump has preached protectionism. It does not work. All it does is to postpone the inevitable and when the inevitable occurs it is then much, much worse than it would have been. A slowly deflating balloon is much less dangerous than an exploding one. Perhaps were are right to hug China close; the USA is going to do the opposite. A big opportunity for us?

  29. Media Nerd
    November 9, 2016

    Sky News have analysed why Trump got voted into power and they figure it is because of white ( not been to college ) , that is, WHITE uneducated voters. No, its because the USA has the equivalent of Sky News who try to think college is a means of education. Gosh they’re thick!

  30. Antisthenes
    November 9, 2016

    Listening to the BBC news I note the presenters all display an air of doom and gloom. Talk through gritted teeth when ever Trumps name comes up. Wherever possible in nuanced ways implying that the Trump victory was devastating for the country and especially for Clinton supporters. No doubt now all USA’s cities will have to safe spaces for her supporters so they can suffer no more trauma from this to them shocking defeat.

  31. fedupsoutherner
    November 9, 2016

    Brilliant result. Once again the people have spoken. Trump has always said he will be keen to work with Britain when they are out of the EU which is in stark contrast to Obama. It seems the world is rising up against the establishment and wanting change from the PC elements that have crept into politics. I just hope the one thing he does soon is repeal the climate change act and Paris agreement. What a step forward that would be and one we should follow. Well done Trump and well done Mrs May for not putting her foot in it and deriding him like many others have done. Sturgeon cannot say the same.

  32. Hope
    November 9, 2016

    Thank goodness Cameron has gone, that would be a shot in the foot for the U.K.! He was always wrong on every issue. Those he was right about he failed to act upon. What did he stand for? Keep us in the EU at any cost but alienate us from the USA? I hope there will be some fretting in the EU club at the moment hoping the US administration can turn Trump’s views around a little. Any congratulations for Farage for being in the right side of the debate? Thought not. He stuck his neck out, again, Your party would do well to think like an ordinary person. Tebbit and a few others could it. Unfortunately May put she likes of him in her nasty basket.

  33. HearingAid
    November 9, 2016

    Here is a short list of British politicians and important people who have recently bad-mouthed Trump soon to become The Leader of the Free World and with whom we might wish a trade deal.
    David Davis, in Parliament
    Sajid Javid in Parliament
    Any number of SNPs and Labour MPs
    Two former diplomats to America ( yes really ) ( seen on TV )
    The Major of London, Khan

    A bit clumsy aren’t they, and stone deaf.

  34. Old Albion
    November 9, 2016

    Does the Government have any leaflets on how to convert ones garden into a nuclear bunker?

  35. Anonymous
    November 9, 2016

    For the life of me, I can’t understand why the loud, condescending and assuming celebrities want to emigrate to Canada.

    What’s wrong with Mexico ???

    The Anglosphere is revolting against the celebrigentsia at last.

    The Liberal elite needs to loosen its grip, just a tad, or there is going to be big trouble. In Europe I fear worse. Their brand of revolution is altogether more troublesome. They have violent right-wing gangs on the streets and viable extreme parties. I’m glad we don’t have that here.

  36. Anonymous
    November 9, 2016

    So. Is Brexit Britain at the head of a queue for a trade deal with America now ?

    I breathe a sigh of relief. For Britain a Clinton win would have meant a Suez style threat to our economy, unbelievable pressure to keep us in the EU, Britain in direct conflict with Putin, Britain kissing Irish Republican bottoms (to satisfy the US Irish vote) and us giving the Falklands to Argentina (to satisfy the US hispanic vote.)

  37. Mick
    November 9, 2016

    Brexit In America , we carn’t have anything without somebody wanting to nick it?, just goes to show people are pretty cheesed off with main stream politics worldwide, the revolution started here without a shot being fired in anger

  38. Oggy
    November 9, 2016

    I wonder if Mrs Clinton is going to insist on a re-run because she doesn’t like the result of the US election. Or say the result isn’t valid because Trump lied to the US public.
    or maybe it was just advisory ……………………………

    1. rose
      November 11, 2016

      I wondered whether that was why the Clintons didn’t emerge for so long. Contrary to custom. Were they in a lawyers’ conference – or was she just in the beauty parlour?

  39. Anonymous
    November 9, 2016

    How did the pollsters get a Trump win (and Brexit) so wrong ?

    I’ll tell you how. It’s all to do with the celebrity/intelligensia command of the televised media. They have made ordinary opinion go underground. They have made people so fearful and ashamed of expressing what they truly think to strangers. They have even brought some ordinary opinion to the verge of criminality.

    In my own case this created a great, pent up anger which I was utterly determined to voice at the referendum in a secret ballot. I even post Anonamously here as I fear a backlash in real life for what are pretty moderate views. It is hard to think that anyone of leftist/EU bent would feel so motivated to get out and vote. Remainers/Clinton voters thought they had it in the bag because of all the amplified celebrity noise in their support. Well Eddie Izzard and Lady Gaga have only one vote like everyone else so this gave the illusion of a consensus.

    We little people, however, do not admit to the pollsters nor the TV interviewers our true feelings for being made outcasts. So here are two reasons why the pollsters got it wrong:

    – a reticence on the part of ‘right’ wing voters because of celebrigentsial oppression

    – a complacency on the part of ‘left’ wing voters because of celebrigentsial oppression

    I blame the celebrities and the intelligentsia for this rebellion and the polling irregularities.

    I thank them very much for their arrogance and utter stupidity.

    1. libertarian
      November 11, 2016


      Excellent post Madam/Sir nail on the head

  40. Denis Cooper
    November 9, 2016

    Off-topic, I wonder whether our politicians and commentators could follow the example set by Juncker and refer to the EU’s “internal market”, rather than the “single market”:

    “… if the British really want to have free access to the internal market, they must agree to respect all its rules, including on the free movement of workers … ”

    “Europe is Europe, and if you want to be part of the main achievement, the internal market, everyone including the British must respect the rules.”

    That’s what it’s called in the EU treaties, and the correct terminology may help to clarify that if you want to be in the EU’s “internal” market then you have to be “internal” to the EU, that is you have to be inside the EU.

    Of course on June 23rd we voted to leave the EU rather than remain in the EU, so that vote sorted out whether we will be able to remain in the EU’s “internal” market.

    1. rose
      November 11, 2016

      Do you remember how Remainiacs kept calling it “the Free Market” during the campaign?

  41. Mark B
    November 9, 2016

    Good afternoon.

    This is good news for the UK and. especially, BREXIT.

    Whatever, Donald Trumps faults one thing you cannot fault him on is his love of the UK.

  42. Ed Mahony
    November 9, 2016

    President-elect Trump said, ‘Bad trade deals costs jobs.’

    – His main goal is to make the US ‘great.’ That means he’s going to try and get the best deal he can with any trade deal with the UK. He’s got the trained negotiators behind him at the moment (we don’t). And he’s going to be tough. Really tough. The UK government really needs to be prepared for this.

    The government also need to prepare for extra work and finance regarding Mr Trump’s approach towards NATO – that countries stump up more money for it and contribute more to it in general.

    And with a weaker NATO, perhaps, and the US playing less of a role in international affairs that don’t directly affect them geopolitically, our government are going to have to work closer with our European partners (whether in or out of the EU) regarding the threat from Russia and Isis (as well as mass migration from the Middle East and Africa).

    1. Mitchel
      November 11, 2016

      Europe is a geopolitical irrelevance compared to China,the USA and Russia.The only hope for long term relevance is a loose combination with Russia.

      The so-called threat from Russia is a cultural threat to the liberal elite of the west-promotion of traditional values,the nuclear family,the nation state and the(Orthodox) church,etc-not a military threat.

      1. zorro
        November 11, 2016

        Oh so true


  43. John Fitzgerald
    November 9, 2016

    Mr Trump is president elect. This is a bigger snub to the establishment than Brexit ever was. This is not reducing the importance of our vote to leave the EU in anyway! I firmly believe that even though Donald Trump might be considered a “loose cannon” he was still the lesser of the two evils!

    1. Mitchel
      November 9, 2016

      The Guardian has had a nervous breakdown – one of their columnists is likening it to the sack of Rome by the barbarian hordes!

    2. Lifelogic
      November 9, 2016

      The endless drivel uttering logic lacking luvvies and similar types wheeled on to TV to support Hillary was enough to make me thing he was the lesser of the two evils.

      He will really annoy the BBC types which is excellent. The climate alarmism/greencrap types and the PC brigade. For that reason alone I am very pleased. I think of all those daft lefty BBC luvvies, pop musicians, green loons, comedians and the likes all in floods of tears and it cheers me up no end.

      Radio 4 at 1.00 today had a discussion of the anti-establishment/popularism movements at lunchtime today. It showed perfectly how little BBC and establishment types understand the world. Paul Mason seemed to think it was all anti-women and anti black people, which says rather more about his strange attitudes was of viewing the World I suspect.

      If you do not agree with my lefty, big government, high tax, greencrap, magic money tree, rob the rich agenda so you are clearly a racist, a misogynist and an old white male who was probably too dim to go to college.

      I think that was basically a rough summary of their views.

    3. NA
      November 9, 2016

      Donald Trump might be considered a “loose cannon” he was still the lesser of the two evils!

      Hillary said she follows what the Council of Foreign Relations tells her to do. Will Trump follow their advice I wonder?

      1. John Fitzgerald
        November 10, 2016

        Will Trump follow their advice I wonder

        I have my doubts. However even though it a Republican Congress and Senate I also doubt that Trump will get his own way on everything he proposes!

  44. Shock and Awe
    November 9, 2016

    There is some validity however dishonest and tenuous for a politician to paint his rival as possessing ideas that are unwholesome. I guess this is what politicos call “The Game”. In the case of President-Elect Donald Trump the idea he was or is in some way a “rival” or opponent of any British politician cannot be true. Yet many references to the American Mr Trump by British politicians were made even before he could be called a politician or being in any political post…or indeed anywhere in the UK or Europe.

    There may be precedents for British politicians strangely , perversely, bizarrely to make regular and rather nasty reference to a personage who has made no interaction with their constituency or country or their person. Someone totally out of their realm. But such a persistent reference or even a singular reference does not spring to mind.

    Is there something untoward in the water supply of Parliament? Did the SNP and the Left in Parliament in particular have some miraculous intimation that someone they should not care one jot about, someone who was in their day-to-day professional and personal life absolutely nothing to them, was destined to be the very opposite?

    It strikes me, they sensed something below the level of their normal consciousness’radar; for, their behaviour was absolutely illogical.It would be like JR almost blog after blog writing with nasty comment about someone most of us did not know,a plumber living in Shanghai who was destined within a short period though not engaged in politics to become the next President of China.

    MPs, if not putting on a very good act on the level of an Oscar winning actor really do need to start classes with an above average linguist. They may learn something to their advantage. But they will not attend such classes as they ARE extremely well-educated and ARE extremely intelligent and will scoff as they did to a person of perceivable no consequence. Interesting!

  45. miami.mode
    November 9, 2016

    I’m reminded of Nigel Farage’s speech to the EU Parliament “……well you’re not laughing now”.

    1. Lifelogic
      November 9, 2016

      Go back to look at his superb one lecturing the dire Gordon Brown in the EU parliament. Well worth watching every six months or so. A shame he could not get to do the same to the dire Osborne.

    2. Know-dice
      November 9, 2016

      And interestingly Nigel Farage was the only one who openly supported Donald Trump on his election trail…

      1. rose
        November 11, 2016

        Actually, he didn’t really support him in the conventional sense. When he went over there the first time he never once said any words of support, though they said lots of nice things about him. I don’t think he mentioned Mr Trump by name. He said he wouldn’t vote for Mrs C if they paid him; he wouldn’t vote for her if she paid him etc. but he insisted he wasn’t interfering in their election as Obama had in ours. He was happy to talk about Brexit and polls.

        Back here he had been pressed on the point: which would he vote for? He said several times he wouldn’t vote for Mrs C. Then, cornered, he said “I don’t know. I might abstain.”

        He corrected the statement on Moslems.

        When he went back the next time I don’t remember the media here hanging anything round his neck that he had said in support. If they could have, they would have, you can be sure of that. On the night, he said, on being asked “How is your man doing?” “Well, he’s not doing badly for an independent.”

    3. Gary C
      November 9, 2016

      Excellent analogy.

      And congratulations to Mr Trump.

    4. Jerry
      November 10, 2016

      @miami.mode; I don’t consider President (elect) Trump as a “Farage” moment, more a Ronald Reagan moment. No one will be laughing true, but nor will they be plotting to get even either, as eurocrats and the EU27 seem to be doing.

  46. Christopher Hudson
    November 9, 2016

    Gotta hand it to Nigel Farage, all those years, the solitary voice in the wilderness, he sort of set everything in motion. If Brexit wasn’t a movement it’s starting to resemble a movement now. Where will the next domino fall? Hollande surely, then Merkel? Europes old socialists need to move aside, the old continent needs a new generation of leader.

    1. Mitchel
      November 9, 2016

      Renzi in Italy has a referendum to win went month.

      Arguably it is President Putin who has started all his,he launched the counteroffensive against the (attempted) global liberal hegemony years back.

      1. Mitchel
        November 9, 2016

        that should read “win next month”

    2. Lifelogic
      November 9, 2016

      Why are there no UKIP people in the Lord and yet it is stuffed with green, Libdims, Tory & Labour Libdim types and loads of real lefty labour types.

      Did UKIP not win the most votes in the EU election?

      1. rose
        November 11, 2016

        There are a some remnants of the hereditaries. They don’t get any publicity. I wonder why?

        1. rose
          November 11, 2016

          And don’t forget Brexiteer if not UKIP Norman Tebbit, Nigel Lawson, and Michael Howard. And an Archbishop ?

        2. rose
          November 12, 2016

          UKIP peers: Lord Willoughby de Broke, hereditary; Lord Pearson, sometime leader of UKIP but originally Conservative, created under Mrs T; Lord Stevens, also originally Conservative and created under Mrs T.

          A very good question, Lifelogic. Why no UKIP creations under Blair, Brown, and Cameron?

          Well, we may be needing a thousand soon.

    3. Sulis
      November 9, 2016

      Agree, people have been crying out for change for quite some time and all they are offered is more EU – socialism on steroids.

    4. Andy
      November 9, 2016

      Oh we have the Austrian Presidency on 4th December.
      The Italian Referendum on the 4th December.
      Dutch General Election in 15th March 2017.
      French Presidential Election in April and May.
      German General Election probably September 2017.
      I hope for upsets in them ALL !!!!!

    5. hefner
      November 10, 2016

      Merkel, socialist?

  47. Martyn G
    November 9, 2016

    In a strange way, John, what with Brexit and now an astonishing result of the USA presidential election, I am minded of the immortal words said by President Lincoln at Gettysburg “…. shall have a new birth of freedom — and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth”.
    That just seems so apt to me, especially when seeing and hearing the words spoken against us by some of the more prominent ‘leaders’ of the EU.

    1. Mitchel
      November 9, 2016

      Writing in the Spectator online Matthew Parris,as you might expect,doesn’t agree with you -“Can we trust the people?After Trump,I’m no longer sure”,going on to quote from an 1867 leader in the Spectator -“universal suffrage is unfavourable to civilisation”!

      1. LondonBob
        November 11, 2016

        Trump won pretty much all the income levels above the lowest, so I agree with Mr Parris, restrict the franchise and Trump will have won even bigger.

      2. James Matthews
        November 11, 2016

        The suggestion that Matthew Parris ever trusted the people is of course a preposterous porkie.

    2. Ed Mahony
      November 10, 2016

      Brexit and now an astonishing result of the USA presidential election, I am minded of the immortal words said by President Lincoln at Gettysburg “…. shall have a new birth of freedom — and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth”

      – Words. Words. Words. If Trump and Brexit are going to deliver to the ‘people’ then they have a HUGE amount of work DIFFICULT work to do. Only then can you apply the words of President Lincoln to Mr Trump, Mr Farage, Boris Johnson and others.

      1. James Matthews
        November 11, 2016

        Not really. What needs to be delivered to the people of the UK is what they voted for on the basis of a straightforward binary choice – to leave the European Union. Nothing at all complicated about achieving that.

        Any elected government will then want to ensure that the outcome of that choice is as favourable as possible for everyone within the UK, but you can’t please everyone and the final responsibility for the consequences lies with the electorate, as indeed it should.

  48. Focus
    November 9, 2016

    Trump will visit Parliament. I have absolutely no reason to believe, none, that he uses obnoxious deodorant or he has body odour. Some politicians who deeply feel they are on the opposite side of the page to him will find they smell something bad, literally. They will also find his tone of voice and mannerisms as indicative of wickedness or deception. They will find afterwards when quoting what he said that they unconsciously and innocently embellish to the downside of what they objectively heard and saw. They will feel annoyance, temporarily, when they are challenged on it.It is normal. They should not worry about it.They are not ill.

    1. Anonymous
      November 9, 2016

      Whereas Mrs Clinton would have smelled of a fresh meadow in springtime and what they would have heard was chicks twittering in trees, bunny rabbits hopping through lush grass and pure waters babbling nothing but nature’s own song of truth, optimism and hope – hope that the EU dream would be revived, whatever the cost to the people of Britain.

      1. Focus
        November 11, 2016

        Yeah, turning water into wine.

  49. oldtimer
    November 9, 2016

    Mr Trump’s win was attributed, by him in his acceptance speech, to the “movement” that supported him. A US commentator, on Andrew Neill’s excellent programme on the results as they came in, agreed with Neill that the result marked a rejection of dynastic politics (represented by the Bush and Clinton families) through the emergence of a new significant minority group, the working class whites. It also seems that the black minority group, whose votes helped sweep President Obama to power, did not turn out in significant enough numbers for Mrs Clinton.

    That same commentator also observed that US Presidents do seek to implement their campaign pledges. So in addition to the the issues you mentioned earlier, expect to see the abolition of the EPA and the rehabilitation of coal as an energy source (Clinton was anti coal) on the Trump agenda. This will have implications for the Paris climate change agreement signed a year ago; it might lead to its effective collapse if China now decides to back away from it.

    1. rose
      November 11, 2016

      But Dynasty as usual will return with Michelle Obama next time. They have been practising for a long time now. Four years soon goes.

      1. Mitchel
        November 11, 2016

        Will she be playing the same role as Joan Collins in the original version?!

  50. Ed Mahony
    November 9, 2016

    ‘will welcome moves to reflate the US and world economies. We all need more and better paid jobs, which could be assisted by lower tax rates’

    – Wall Street Journal says Mr Trump’s tax cuts would lead to 6 trillion in lost revenue. And Forbes says 47% of his tax cuts would go to top 1% richest in country.
    Yes to tax cuts in principle, but not to Mr Trump as an example how to do it.

    1. libertarian
      November 11, 2016

      Ed Mahony

      If the WSJ does say that they need to put new batteries in their calculator the total tax revenue is $7 trillion right now, so losing nearly all of it based on the published Trump plan doesn’t add up ( I’m not saying Trumps numbers add up either)

  51. Anonymous
    November 9, 2016

    Way to go, Idaho !

  52. NA
    November 9, 2016

    Trump got into power on the back of a sequence of (staged fake) ISIS terrorist attacks. Now we have used ISIS against Assad and it has failed, the time has come to turn on Saudi arabia the main sponsors of ISIS to get the CIA etc off the hook. The US is not so dependant on them anymore.

    As I said before it is for this reason Trump is a man of the times.

  53. ian wragg
    November 9, 2016

    If we want better paid jobs, we could start by stopping the importation of 600,000 foreigners annually.
    There should be a lesson for the PM and HoL especially, Trump won against all the odds because he recognised that globalism, multi culturalism and mass immigration together with Marxist inspired political correctness benefits only the conglomerates and politicians.
    I see that the steel ( probably about 20 thousand tons) for the next generation frigates may well be French and Spanish. Have you learnt nothing.
    We really need to drain the swamp and start again.
    Three cheers for Nigel Farage for calling it right again.

  54. Monty
    November 9, 2016

    Thank goodness David Cameron isn’t our PM anymore. His rant about Trump being a fool, would not have benefitted our relationship with the USA.

    Corbyn and Margaret Beckett have been sounding off too, but at least they are just the ramblings of folk who are not going to see the inside of Downing Street in their lifetimes.

  55. David Lister
    November 9, 2016

    ” .. taxes which large companies actually pay. ”

    Is this pandering to the populist argument?; or do you have some evidence to back this up, and proposed policy in response.

  56. APL
    November 10, 2016

    Well done Trump. If I was a US citizen, I would have voted for him too.

    But it shows what a dynamic unapologetic candidate can do. By comparison, in the UK, what have the Conservatives actually conserved?

    This country is utterly transformed and neither MacMillan nor Churchill would recognize the contemporary UK as British.

    We could do with a few politicians like Trump, and less of the simpering, apologetic ‘mananas’s’ that we seem to be cursed with.

    1. Chris S
      November 11, 2016

      We have one. He’s called Nigel Farage.

      Like him or loath him, he has an uncanny knack of appealing to voters.

      With the revolutionary idea of telling it as it is abroad in Washington, Boris should appoint him as our ambassador there.

  57. John Fitzgerald
    November 10, 2016

    I was watching the “Millenials” protesting this morning and that reminded me of the darlings protesting after the Brexit vote. This also reminds me of the saying “With age comes wisdom”.

Comments are closed.