Euro elections confirm Brexit view

The derisory vote of under 10% for the Conservatives is a fitting epitaph for the Withdrawal Agreement. Only the Conservatives offered the Withdrawal Agreement. Anyone who wanted it would have voted Conservative. Some who didnt want it voted Conservative out of loyalty or for other ressons.

Whenever I have said in media interviews that the public have rejected the Agreement by a large majority this has been queried. This election provides more proof of the obvious. Mrs May united the country against the draft Treaty she wrongly proposed.

The Brexit party on the majority of results so far announced as I expected won more seats than the three Remain parties, the Lb Dems, Greens and Change UK combined. These new MEPs need to come to Westminster to tell MPs there how to be popular, by just getting us out of the EU with no lock back in Treaty.

The BBC seemed to think the main news of the night was the Lib Dems coming second! Once again they missed the obvious and made little of the winning view.

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72 Comments

  1. Pominoz
    Posted May 27, 2019 at 5:17 am | Permalink

    Sir John,

    You, along with others, rightly predicted the weakness in the vote for the Tories, undoubtedly due to the distaste by the voters for May’s WA. The concern, however, remains that sufficient Conservative MPs may still be determined to attempt to tie the UK too closely to the EU and will do anything they can during the Leadership exercise to get their way.

    Your diary entry on May 25th expressed confidence that the Government, despite the current leanings of MPs, could deliver a WTO Brexit. This view was endorsed by the reassuring article dated May 22nd by Maddy Thimont Jack on the instituteforgovernment.org.uk website. At that time I felt reassured that, with the right leader, a clean Brexit was likely.

    As the various contenders for PM announce themselves my concerns return. Orchestrated campaigns to prevent a ‘hardline’ Brexiteer being appointed are already being talked about. Any candidate openly declaring that WTO is their prime aim may not achieve the leadership. Others, who might be expected to aim for the same outcome, may temper their rhetoric in order to improve their chances of becoming PM. Various candidates, to cover all bases, are talking about “leaving the EU, with or without a deal, on 31st October” Such a declaration does not prevent them accepting the putrid WA. Influences behind the scenes, deals done on the sly to gain support, may dilute the hard Brexit aims of the successful candidate. What comeback is their when that candidate, believed to be a real Brexiteer but who has not fully declared their hard Brexit goal, goes on to accept many or all of the WA surrender terms?

    We have suffered the consequences of a lying PM for three years now. It is imperative that the new one is totally honest from the outset – and this includes their declarations as Leadership candidates. What if the votes of the differing factions within the Party result in the final two candidates both wishing to see an unhealthily close alliance with the EU? Not much choice there for Conservative Party members. The die will have been cast.

    Another two months of sleep deprivation for me. Please reassure me if you can.

    • Sharon Jagger
      Posted May 27, 2019 at 6:26 am | Permalink

      Pominoz

      My concerns too! I really, really do not trust anyone in government!

    • Nigl
      Posted May 27, 2019 at 6:38 am | Permalink

      I would agree with you totally with you about fudge/sell out/pseudo leave in fact remain etc apart from one factor. Farage. His threat to take the Tories on if they do not get out is very real and Peterborough might be the final proof if needed.

    • Julie Dyson
      Posted May 27, 2019 at 8:45 am | Permalink

      I share your concerns to some extent Pominoz but also take great comfort in one simple, now-unshakeable belief: either the next Tory PM takes us out on a clean WTO Brexit on 31st Oct or the Conservative Party is toast and the next GE will be a battle between The Brexit Party and Labour, with the latter chanting the Remain mantra and thereby losing up to 40% of their supporters who will by then finally see the party for what it truly is.

    • Alan Jutson
      Posted May 27, 2019 at 9:20 am | Permalink

      Pominoz
      The next Conservative leader Must, absolutely Must, fully believe and publicly state that we must and will walk away from the EU under WTO rules if the EU will not move on their present position.
      They must also recognise the The WA is absolutely dead.

      Failure to make the above statement and believe in it, will mean The Conservatives will face a wipe out in the next General election.

    • Magna Carta
      Posted May 27, 2019 at 11:39 am | Permalink

      It is not just the new Tory leader who needs to be honest. After seeing last night’s election coverage on BBC and Sky (the rampant left wing agenda, the spin, the lax reporting), I was livid.
      Do the media and their panellists not realise that it is time to stop treating the public with contempt.
      The ‘smooth spun lies’, the technique of the Blair and Campbell generation should be dispensed with; politicans should stop running away from truths – however unpalatable or unpopular; and news channels need to rediscover their professional integrity.

  2. oldtimer
    Posted May 27, 2019 at 5:23 am | Permalink

    Mr Farage appears to be on course with his avowed aim to put the Conservative and Labour parties out of business as the dominant political forces. Based on reports and statements already made in its leadership election, the Conservative party appears ready to confirm this outcome by an act of political suicide. Ester McVey has made the most direct appeal to Brexit party voters by offering a default WTO Brexit and a redirection of Aid budget increases since 2010 into education and the police. That will cut through. The others seem to offer fudge. Fudge will not work.

  3. Lifelogic
    Posted May 27, 2019 at 5:24 am | Permalink

    Indeed BBC bias absurd as usual also talking mainly about the results everywhere but the UK in the main. Are they to become the EUBC shortly?

    • Peter
      Posted May 27, 2019 at 9:49 am | Permalink

      Don’t forget that the success of the Brexit party has been forecast in polls for some time now. Remain have had lots of time to prepare damage limitation stories.

      Spin on Liberal Democrat wins and time devoted to the split in the Labour Party can use airtime to crowd out the main story – namely the Brexit Party taking the largest share of the vote of any party in only a few weeks since they were formed.

      Changan get UK failure can be quietly ignored too.

      • Peter
        Posted May 27, 2019 at 9:50 am | Permalink

        Change UK failure can be quietly ignored.

  4. Bob Dixon
    Posted May 27, 2019 at 5:27 am | Permalink

    It gets worse. The Brexit Party gets its 1st MP in early June 2019.

  5. Lifelogic
    Posted May 27, 2019 at 5:27 am | Permalink

    Is Steve Baker not standings? Not that he is likely to win given the types of ‘Conservative’ MPs we have.

    Hammond is alas already undermining the next Conservative leader in the negotiations (on Marr). He has with May taken the party to fifth place in the EU elections- well done Hammond he is equally culpable. A wrongheaded, appalling Chancellor too. He needs compulsory lessons in negotiation skills, logic and game theory (and indeed in why places like Singapore and Hong Kong do so well with far lower simpler taxes).

    As Frederick Forsyth sensibly puts in in a letter to the Telegraph today: – Those squeaking that we must “take No Deal off the table” show only that they are stupid……….. Can the Tories please just get on with it? Brits are patient folk, but there are limits, which are now extremely close.

    • APL
      Posted May 27, 2019 at 6:28 am | Permalink

      LifeLogic: “He needs compulsory lessons in negotiation skills, logic and game theory”

      He needs to be fired.

      Why waste money training Hammond? MPs are ten a penny. But some how have managed to persuade us that they are worth £75,000 each.

  6. Kevin
    Posted May 27, 2019 at 5:38 am | Permalink

    The opposition generated by Mrs. May transfers in full measure to all
    of the suggested Tory leaders who voted for the WA. No period of grace will be
    made available for any of them to string us along and keep us at the brink. In my
    mind the “Malthouse Compromise” is also a non-starter, given the several
    years already (predictably) wasted. WTO exit, Tories, or get out of the way.

  7. Lifelogic
    Posted May 27, 2019 at 5:42 am | Permalink

    As Ann Widdecombe put it:- My message to Westminster is get us out by October 31st or face what we have done tonight in a general election.

    She was also one of the tiny number of MPs who was sound on Miliband’s absurdly damaging Climate Change Act. This despite having read PPE (after Latin at Birmingham, which perhaps saved her). Well done Ann why is she not in the Lords? Too sound I suppose.

  8. Peter Wood
    Posted May 27, 2019 at 5:42 am | Permalink

    Conservative Party is facing an existential threat; it needs to present a united Brexit supporting face. This means removing all cabinet members who reject a WTO departure, allowing constituency committee’s to recall any member they are dissatisfied with and sack them, and above all, TELL THE TRUTH AND DO WHAT YOU PROMISE!

    Democracy must be seen to be upheld.

  9. javelin
    Posted May 27, 2019 at 5:43 am | Permalink

    After carefully studying the First Past the Post map on the BBC the following Prototype voters emerge.

    Brexit Party = Party of Jobs and Nation
    SNP = Party of Scotland
    Plaid = Party of Welsh Speakers
    LibDems = Party of Waitrose
    Labour = Party of Immigrants
    Greens = Party of Snowflakes
    Conservatives = Party of Analogue

    • Lifelogic
      Posted May 27, 2019 at 6:25 am | Permalink

      Oh dear, do I have to stop getting free newspaper and coffee at Waitrose now? The Conservative party is a party with many sound members but infiltrated at Westminster by many daft LibDims and pro EU socialists. Usually led by them Heath, Major, Cameron, May …. all disasters for the country and at the polls. Despite the country desperately needing and calling for a real Conservative Party.

      • libertarian
        Posted May 27, 2019 at 8:42 am | Permalink

        The Chair and vice chair of the Tory party were boasting on Twitter yesterday that the party now has 160k members

        This is a party that is over 150 years old. Whereas a party that is just 7 weeks old has more than 100k members already

        The tory parliamentary party are deluded fantasists

        • Peter Parsons
          Posted May 28, 2019 at 12:48 pm | Permalink

          The Brexit party doesn’t have members, it has supporters. You can’t join the Brexit party, you can only give it money and your e-mail address.

      • robert valence
        Posted May 27, 2019 at 9:10 am | Permalink

        Step forward TBP, the real conservative party.! I see that NF is already planning to scrap HS2; mainly rewinding May’s & Cameron’s initiatives over the last few years will re-instate conservatism.

    • Fred H
      Posted May 27, 2019 at 8:14 am | Permalink

      javelin…or perhaps:

      Brexit Party = Party for pragmatism, jobs and a future
      SNP = Party of Scottish unbridled resentment kilt wearers
      Plaid = Party of Welsh hills speakers
      LibDems = Party of day dreaming busybodies
      Labour = Party of doublespeaking, divided union members
      Greens = Party of cycling, central heating banning, tree huggers
      Conservatives = Party for labradors and green wellies

    • Julie Dyson
      Posted May 27, 2019 at 8:56 am | Permalink

      Great analysis, but you missed out:

      UKIP = Party of Has Beens
      CHUK = Party of Never Were

      Sorry to be so blunt to my fellow UKIPpers of the past decade but there’s a difference between proud loyalty for a viable cause and simply flogging a dead horse. That one is fit only for the knacker’s yard and the sooner we all accept that, the better.

  10. Dominic
    Posted May 27, 2019 at 5:45 am | Permalink

    The result of 2016 referendum on the United Kingdom’s membership of the European Union confirmed the Brexit view. This is the one result the stain that’s become the BBC cannot spin into a pro-EU narrative

    • libertarian
      Posted May 27, 2019 at 8:44 am | Permalink

      Dominic

      Oh dear read both BBC and Sky news websites this morning according to both of them Remain won, seriously

  11. margaret
    Posted May 27, 2019 at 5:48 am | Permalink

    They fact speak ;facts are things that exist; not opinions , reasons or even truths. A lie is a fact, percentages are facts , but facts cannot be exchanged and made into mathematical formula: the world cannot be so simplified.
    So roll on the next crew who want to try and proof opinion in a world where too many variables exist to map the human condition.

    • margaret
      Posted May 27, 2019 at 4:36 pm | Permalink

      To be quite honest I think I am picking up on someone here or am demonstrating early morning carelessness .Opinions are facts ;they exist. Reasons are factual psychological analytical events and are facts ,lies are facts .

      This is why it is difficult for myself and some others ; we are affected by those around trying to make a profit out of us and changing happenings around.

  12. Mick
    Posted May 27, 2019 at 5:56 am | Permalink

    Well done Brexit party the people’s party it was pretty obvious to anyone that they were going to give the establishment a good kick up the backside and didn’t they just, and now all the crying is starting from the remain remoaners parties that if you were to add the share of the other remoaners parties together they came out top of the vote for staying in the dreaded Eu , the only difference on this occasion remoaners is that the people voted for a party that is there main issue is to take us out deal or no deal we’re as remoaners voted for lib/dem , Plaid Cymru, greens, change U.K., on other issues what the other parties had, abit like saying Mans city didn’t win the premiership because if you add all the points up of the other teams they had more points so they won, what sore and sorry losers the remoaners are but tough the people have spoken again and we want out ASP just do it or face being wiped out in a General Election the choice is yours

    • Fedupsoutherner
      Posted May 27, 2019 at 9:14 am | Permalink

      Agree Mick. Other parties stood for different things. The Green party being a prime example and the SNP. Brexit party was about one thing and getting out and just as importantly for even some remainders who voted for the Brexit party, so was democracy. People I know voted to remain but accepted the result but voted Brexit to uphold democracy.

  13. Posted May 27, 2019 at 5:57 am | Permalink

    Congratulations to Nigel Farage for his extremely successful debut.
    There is no excuse for the Conservatives or the Labour.
    The Greens/Libs Dems also did very well, so congratulations to both parties too.

    The number of votes cast was fairly small. Which means that Nigel Farage’s party only gained 12% of the country’s vote. Not a mandate.
    The remainers also outvoted the leavers: Brexit Party took 5,244,893 votes, the combined votes of the Lib-Dems and Greens were 5,377,001.

    If only we could remain (temporarily) in the EEA and leave everything else!

    • Ginty
      Posted May 27, 2019 at 6:18 am | Permalink

      What it means is that most or the country don’t care to vote for an MEP and they are right.

      The EU Parliament is fake and Brexit Party winning there is Toy Town news, nothing like the Brexit Party winning a general election.

      What does that tell you about the EU Parliament ?

    • Ginty
      Posted May 27, 2019 at 7:24 am | Permalink

      Mike – If you’re going to join Green with LibDem then please apportion 52% of the Labour and Conservative vote and all of the UKIP vote to Leave.

      But really. All we should be counting is the the votes of the two new parties if you what you want is a situation report on the mood for leave/remain. All other parties are mixed up in other types of politics.

      Brexit won and CHUK didn’t get one MEP.

      So Anna Soubry (aka Andy aka Newmania) is shown to have no mandate other than a very loud gob – rather like that bloke outside of Parliament who is allowed to blurt his megaphone over all BBC interviews, a mournful “STOPPP BRE-XIIIIT !”

      • Peter Parsons
        Posted May 28, 2019 at 12:54 pm | Permalink

        It was John Redwood who made a comparison of The Brexit Party with the Lib Dems and the Greens (and Change UK) in the original article. His choice, not Mikes.

        Brexit Party: 5,248,533 votes
        Lib Dems+Green+Change Uk: 5,962,510 votes

        Fewer seats, yes, but 13.6% more votes.

    • Fred H
      Posted May 27, 2019 at 8:17 am | Permalink

      No election ever produces a majority of the entitled electorate. Those that care or have some knowledge and clear opinion go and vote. This has produced a clear instruction from the people.

  14. javelin
    Posted May 27, 2019 at 6:00 am | Permalink

    What this election does show is the old working/middle class divide has now gone.

    Politically and socially I think this is extremely important.

    Labour is on the way out as the working class party and is now the party of immigrants in large cities. The LibDems are the party of the upper middle classes. Greens are the Party of impressionable young snowflakes. Brexit are the party of the vast majority of people in the centre ground.

    The Brexit Party seem to have gotten themselves into a position as as representing the rump of the population, which is a position politicans could only dream of. They did it by aligning their policies with the bell curve of public opinion.

    • libertarian
      Posted May 27, 2019 at 8:46 am | Permalink

      Mike S

      So you are happy to add together those parties who campaigned for remain but you havent added all the votes of the parties that campaigned to leave, why?

    • ChrisS
      Posted May 27, 2019 at 9:09 am | Permalink

      Don’t forget Labour’s very influential Champagne Socialist set – They are alive and kicking and dominating the Brexit debate in the party – especially the Islington Clique led by Lady Nugee.

      Seeing her on the election broadcast last night was laughable : she actually suggested that Labour did badly in the North because they were not clear enough about supporting a second referendum ! That might have been the reason they bombed in London but was blatantly untrue in their former Heartlands of the North and Midlands.

  15. Iain Gill
    Posted May 27, 2019 at 6:05 am | Permalink

    The BBC will continue to fill all its political shows with majority remainer panels, despite that being a minority view in the country.

  16. Fed up with the bull
    Posted May 27, 2019 at 6:08 am | Permalink

    Three cheers for Farage. Now he should be invited into talks on Brexit and how to get out quickly and cleanly. He would do far better than the whole cabinet put together. How dim do other MP’s have to be to see that if they try and stop Brexit they will lose out at the polls? Hammond needs to go. May is going so please take him with you.

  17. Ginty
    Posted May 27, 2019 at 6:13 am | Permalink

    Laura Kuenssberg reports these results as a win for Remain and a mandate for a second referendum.

    Well, putting overt BBC bias, manipulation and agenda aside. If we’re playing that game Brexit should have 52% of the Conservative vote, 52% of the Labour vote and all of the UKIP vote (of which the public yet again rejected BNP like party but will never be thanked for it.)

    The big winner, of course, is the “It’s not worth bothering to vote for an MEP” Party which came in at around 60% but wasn’t even mentioned. Moreover their voters are the only ones that got it right.

    The Brexit Party winning the EU elections should be as shocking as The Brexit Party winning a general election but it isn’t. Why ?

    Well that’s because the EU Parliament is shown up for being what it is, a fake parliament.

    So much for it being democratic and so much for it being of any influence at all.

  18. APL
    Posted May 27, 2019 at 6:15 am | Permalink

    Nick Clegg, John Prescott, Michael Hestletine all held the position of Deputy Prime minister, each at a time where there was nearly no likelihood that they would need to step up and take over the Prime ministers role.

    Now we have a dunce and ‘dead (wo)man walking’, to coin a phrase, in the role of Prime Minister, couldn’t somebody be appointed interim PM just so we can sleep at night knowing TM hasn’t got her paws on the levers of power?

  19. Lifelogic
    Posted May 27, 2019 at 6:17 am | Permalink

    Mrs May (Hammond et al) united the country against the draft Treaty they wrongly proposed. They have nearly destroyed the party (and they pushed idiotic, high tax, borrow and waste, big state, climate alarmist, economic policies too). The party can be rescued perhaps but only if the daft, socialist, pro EU wing of the party shut up.

    At least Labour suffered badly too. The LibDims coming top in Islington where Corbyn and that rather plump condescending, lawyer lass (who has contempt for proudly British, white van men) both have seats.

  20. Alan Jutson
    Posted May 27, 2019 at 6:18 am | Permalink

    I listened to the BBC reporting for a time last might.

    They seem to think remain just about won a close contest, and the reasoning seemed to be pile up all the other Parties votes against the Brexit Party and Ukip.
    This was also the mantra of many Lib Dems, Greens and some other Party representatives.

    They all failed to understand it was a low turnout, or realise that many Brexit voters failed to turn out to vote because they were disgusted at not leaving on 31st March, that this election was not run on a first past the post system., that some Labour and Conservative leave voters were still tribal in their voting.

    Last night showed the huge pulling power of Farage, in six weeks from nothing to winning more than 30% of the vote.
    Mrs May with her actions and policy buried the Conservative vote, but she will fail to understand why, as will the remain applicants for leadership.
    There can and should be be no compromise or bringing together the people until we have actually left the EU, then and only then can we start on a new road and to a better future.

    Try to compromise with ourselves before we leave, will simply weaken our position in any future EU talks.
    Will the next leader of the Conservative Party understand, probably not.
    Will the present leader of the Labour Party understand probably not.

  21. Sharon Jagger
    Posted May 27, 2019 at 6:23 am | Permalink

    The Lib Dem’s are masters at twisting the facts to meet their narrative. But look at labour, Emily Soubry seems to think we should press ahead for remain….how does she work that one out?

    I still find it ironic that Vince cable doesn’t want an EU army, the Euro or pan- European taxation etc. (his response to Farage on LBC) and yet presses to remain… His ignorance is holding us back as a country as all the narrow minded remainers are jumping on his wagon.

  22. Posted May 27, 2019 at 6:28 am | Permalink

    I’m all for attacking the current 2 party system – this has only worked well for labour and Tories… but thanks to media brainwashing the other socialist parties that support the system did far better than rationality would expect.
    Brexit party is going to have to do a lot better than this in a GE if it wants to replace the Tories in power.. Not just decimating labour and Tories, but also greens and libdem – Our country will not be safe otherwise.
    On EU numbers, number 10 would fall to a coalition of the worst possible kind: labour, greens and libdems.

  23. agricola
    Posted May 27, 2019 at 6:32 am | Permalink

    Do not expect clarity from the BBC, they are part of the problem, a political organisation minus electoral legitimacy. In news and current affairs they are a propaganda organisation as is Channel 4.

    By what mechanism could a future PM invite MEPs to No 10. I would suggest a low profile no publicity weekend at Chequers helicoptered in on a Friday evening. Nigel and 3 colleagues would be quite sufficient.

    If it works then the time is long overdue that Nigel be treated with dignity and respect. After all he has achieved where the conservatives and parliament as a whole have failed abysmaly.

    It all hangs on the political wisdom and generosity of intellect of whoever becomes PM.

    • Ginty
      Posted May 27, 2019 at 7:26 am | Permalink

      Far worse is there propagandising in drama and general entertainment.

      • Ginty
        Posted May 27, 2019 at 7:28 am | Permalink

        *their*

    • ChrisS
      Posted May 27, 2019 at 9:15 am | Permalink

      Perhaps it’s time a popular movement was launched to get Nigel at least a knighthood?

      Apparently when you nominate someone you have to demonstrate how the candidate has changed things, brought distinction to British life or enhanced the UK’s reputation in their area or activity.

      On that basis there must be at least 17.4m citizens ready to support such a campaign.

    • Fedupsoutherner
      Posted May 27, 2019 at 9:17 am | Permalink

      Hear, hear to that Agricola.

    • DaveK
      Posted May 27, 2019 at 3:07 pm | Permalink

      Considering all the types that get to lobby etc. I think a mechanism such as a telephone would be sufficient.

      • agricola
        Posted May 27, 2019 at 7:45 pm | Permalink

        Manners dear boy. Not a very charitable suggestion. When you desire a positive contribution you act with generosity. Not many get engaged with a phone call or am I out of date.

  24. Simeon
    Posted May 27, 2019 at 6:55 am | Permalink

    This result is just a beginning. It can be seen as promising; given how recently the Brexit Party was formed, their share of the vote is very impressive. But this result cannot be read as a decisive endorsement of a true Brexit. The waters are muddied by the small turnout and by the ambiguity of the two legacy parties positions.

    This said, it is also clear that remaining has not been decisively endorsed either. Put simply, there are those in the middle who are yet to be persuaded that a true Brexit, delivered in a less satisfactory way than was otherwise possible if the government had done its job properly, is better than either some sort of monstrous fudge,of which the WA is an example, or calling Brexit off (whether permanently or not).

    What is required now, and indeed what has always been the case, is to conceive of and then execute a true Brexit that the majority of the country can get behind. Then, Brexit must then be made a success of. The people could not be blamed for voting to return to the EU if UK self governance was a disaster. In my view, the Conservative party is incapable of either of these things. A general election in which all good Brexiters (including our host) rally to the Brexit Party’s flag is the only way to articulate a true Brexit and then deliver it. Whether it can then be made a success of is another matter. The structure of the British state is hardly such that the country is ‘set up’ for success. Winning the war is the easy part. Winning the peace is something else.

  25. BOF
    Posted May 27, 2019 at 6:58 am | Permalink

    Labour and Libdem, the losers, have long uninterupted interviews on the BBC while Nigel Farage, Brexit Party, the winners, had a short heavily talked over interview. Nothing has changed.

    • Timaction
      Posted May 27, 2019 at 9:43 am | Permalink

      They think we don’t notice!

  26. JohnOfEnfield
    Posted May 27, 2019 at 6:59 am | Permalink

    I worry for my Country. The ruling elite think they can thwart the people’s democratically expressed desire. I worry even more for the Conservative party. Its MPs also still think they can thwart the will of the people. After this result the Conservative Party must realise that their Party may never govern again.

  27. Barbara Castle
    Posted May 27, 2019 at 7:11 am | Permalink

    ……….and yet on the radio this morning there was a suggestion that the Malthouse Compromise could be resurrected, aka May’s summarily rejected treaty with tweaks.

    TBP clearly represent the majority of opinions in the UK on Brexit, although the spin being displayed by the losers this morning is nothing short of tragic. The Tory Party can and should work with them……there’s simply no point wasting time and energy reinventing a wheel that’s already rolling.

    • mancunius
      Posted May 27, 2019 at 2:49 pm | Permalink

      Barbara, the Malthouse compromise and every other compromise (e.g. Brady’s Amendment) will *never* be accepted by the EU. We now need full, determined no-deal planning as a stated and singleminded goal, with all the cabinet singing from the same hymnsheet, and anyone and everyone who stands in its way ruthlessly sacked by the next PM (as Churchill did after Dunkirk).

      We have to face the fact that we must face down aggressive and ruthless enemies – and only half of them are in Brussels, the rest inhabit Westminster.

  28. Dominic
    Posted May 27, 2019 at 7:39 am | Permalink

    Of course It’s all meaningless without a committed Brexit majority in the Commons. This is where the real power now lies.

    The EU-P elections are hopefully an indicator of electoral support at the next GE. BP must build on this result but they will come under intense propaganda attacks from the Remain establishment.

    I’m hoping the propaganda assault becomes overkill and forces millions of Brexit voters to abandon Marxist Labour in protest at being continually demonised and slandered by one Labour’s main political allies in London

    And this is the irony. Labour’s traditional core vote that is defiantly Brexit are despised by the very party that they vote for at each and every GE. What an utterly preposterous position. It does show the levels of indoctrination many traditional Labour voters are exposed to when a GE appears on the horizon

    Labour’s traditional core vote represents a massive electoral opportunity for the BP or a Tory party with ardent and determined Eurosceptic leader

  29. Fred H
    Posted May 27, 2019 at 7:47 am | Permalink

    My calculation a while ago was very accurate – BR 29, LD 13, LAB 14, CON 9, GR 3. The odd system has its weakness, CON will have 3 or 4 seats on a roughly 9% vote, but it remains clear that what were the 2 main parties took a hammering. Vote apathy and strongly held views delivered a resounding slap for their failure to take a decision over the EU question. The message to Labour is that they must fix a position or become even more deceitful over policies. For the Conservatives they must elect a PM who has a first task to ASAP to take us out of EU, establish trade teams to work with EU and the World separately, and adopt strategies to address possible humiliation in the next GE.

  30. Brexiteer
    Posted May 27, 2019 at 9:11 am | Permalink

    The votes lent to the Labour and Tory MEPs were based in the main on tribal support for their parties.
    Who knows if the Brexit Party can add to their own count by luring more of the tribal votes in a General Election.
    Tory MPs should think day by day from this day on.
    If the Brexit Party attracts a few existing Tory MPs to their side and even one or two Labour MPs on a mostly singular Manifesto then they will form the next UK government.

    In any event Mr Trump will trounce the EU as a trading bloc and it is hoped our Country will not sink with the EU by opposing our main ally in all things in the USA.
    China will not in practice be pro-EU soon and the EU will have more problems trading there.

  31. hans christian ivers
    Posted May 27, 2019 at 9:55 am | Permalink

    Sir JR,

    The electorate did not vote Conservative because of the total mess of the various factions fighting one another within the Party and not delivering some sort of sensible Brexit exit.

    Saying the voters just voted against the withdrawal agreement is a misinterpretation of the result and not particularly reliable.

    The conservative Party is no longer fit to govern

    • Edward2
      Posted May 27, 2019 at 6:05 pm | Permalink

      Amazing that you have asked all the voters since yesterday why they voted the way they did.

  32. Ian
    Posted May 27, 2019 at 9:56 am | Permalink

    10% of around 38% turnout.

    No section or party should be proud or take comfort it is appalling.

    When you take a view as to were the country is now headed it is frightening. So far not a single person that could be called a Conservative has shown an interest in getting us out of this mess. Then again leading what has morphed into another Liberal leftist party, in a remain Parliament would not inspire anyone that truly believes in this country or democratic freedoms.

    Not particularly a fan, but maybe a Brexit Party in parliament is what is needed to shake the very roots of the broken system. To many believe rule is a right not a privilege

  33. hefner
    Posted May 27, 2019 at 1:17 pm | Permalink

    Congratulations to the Brexit Party. Now may the UK leave the EU as quickly as possible, maybe before Halloween.

  34. Peter Parsons
    Posted May 27, 2019 at 2:05 pm | Permalink

    The headline on the BBC News website is currently “Brexit Party dominates in EU elections”

    I’m not sure how that makes their main story the performance of the Lib Dems…

  35. miami.mode
    Posted May 27, 2019 at 2:36 pm | Permalink

    The BBC bias is endemic and will only be cured when it is disbanded.

    They have just had their Paris correspondent on saying that Macron in France had won. He then went on to say that really he had taken second place, but had won because he expected the result to be worse!

    • hefner
      Posted May 27, 2019 at 6:28 pm | Permalink

      “because he expected the result to be worse” Indeed RN with 23.31% now has 23 MEPs, LREM with 22.41 % also has 23 MEPs. If you look at the history of European elections in France (www.france-politique.fr) and how it went for the governing party in those previous EEC/EU elections (since 1979), the comment is not particularly wrong. Imagine if here the CUP or Labour had as many MEPs as TBP, how would you characterize such a result?

  36. mancunius
    Posted May 27, 2019 at 2:43 pm | Permalink

    And now let’s hope the Brexit Party wins Peterborough.

    They seem to have discovered a little secret – choosing candidates who are intelligent, rational, articulate professionals respected in their respective professional field, cutting across the right-left divide for this single issue, and committed to representing the views of the majority of the people.

    I wonder if this idea might ever catch on.

  37. BillMayes
    Posted May 27, 2019 at 5:01 pm | Permalink

    For those who craved for one, the Second Referendum result was announced earlier today. The Brexit party has ended up as the largest single party within the whole of the EU. The British people have spoken, again.
    What other indicators will those wretched die-Hard, metathesiophobiacs now need to conjure up? And will a new PM accept that a No Deal must now become a done deal to match our decision to Leave the EU?

  38. Joy Elmes
    Posted May 28, 2019 at 2:17 pm | Permalink

    1.We voted three years ago to leave, the government was given the mandate by the people. The EU are bullies and you never ask bullies to tell you what you should do. You tell them. We are leaving, Article 50 was implemented and we had two years to prepare for a smooth exit. Remainers who refused to accept the diplomatic result, have acted like spoilt two year olds and tried everything possible to stop us leaving. In this situation, where there are two extreme options, there can be no compromise, it is either one ot the other. We have wasted three years now and are still in limbo, to the detriment of businesses that are unable to surely plan. This situation is despicable and should never have been condoned. If Remain had won, do you think they would have tolerated the leavers requsting terms of coming a little bit out ! It was so simple, but has been complicated unnecessarily by stubborn idiots who thought it required a deal to leave. We need to get off our knees, look them in the eye, tell them we are going and walk away with dignity and pride. Have we not been humiliated enough ?

    • Joy Elmes
      Posted May 28, 2019 at 4:46 pm | Permalink

      Should be democratic result, my gadget thought it knew best !!

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