I have throughout the pandemic pressed for more drug trials to improve treatments. We are now seeing some good progress.
Question:
To ask the Secretary of State for Health and Social Care, if he will list the drugs the NHS can use to treat covid-19 patients. (91820)
Tabled on: 13 December 2021
Answer:
Maggie Throup:
The following therapeutics are available to patients hospitalised with COVID-19 and in the community setting:
– Dexamethasone;
– Tocilizumab;
– Ronapreve; and
– Sotrovimab.
The following antivirals are available to patients in both hospital and community settings:
– Remdesivir;
– Molnupiravir; and
– PF-07321332
The answer was submitted on 23 Dec 2021 at 10:47.
December 23, 2021
Only one problem. You cannot see/contact a doctor to get them. Met an sprightly 87 year old lady yesterday to hand over a gift. The local doctor support has always been thin but now almost non existent.
As she says why are Doctors being switched to deliver jabs when there are plenty of other suitably qualified available. NHS bureaucratic idiocy.
Congratulations Sir JR to your government for frightening (and she is no the only one) an elderly person you should be protecting.
And we see Javed has said no more announcements until Christmas. A whole two days. Wow.
December 23, 2021
Its the only career I know that you get paid the same or more for doing less work
December 23, 2021
Exactly my experience too. Totally idiotic to waste GPs expensive skills on doing jabs while ignoring their patents with other needs.
A good question to ask would be- What proportion of those dying with + Covid test within 28 days of death received any NHS intensive care treatment before death. I understand it is well under 50%. Why were the rest not ill enough or just to old to bother with? Boris pay a visit to St Georges Hospital I see. The fourth largest hospital in the UK yet last time I looked it had zero ECMO machines.
December 23, 2021
Apparently the doctors now moonlight for the private (useless) online GP services.
Nice little earner!
December 23, 2021
If you want to see a doctor why not simply be a weak in at a jab clinic?
December 23, 2021
Remdesivir was part of the Trump cocktail, wasn’t it?
December 23, 2021
No. Hydroxychloroquine.
December 24, 2021
It was, but there is no report of Hydroxychloroquine .
President Trump has reportedly received Regeneron monoclonal antibodies, remdesivir, dexamethasone, zinc, vitamin D, famotidine, melatonin, and aspirin throughout his COVID-19 treatment.
Some of these medications are experimental and not available to the general public.
Experts do not think each of these treatments are necessarily for COVID-19.
December 23, 2021
Which of these drugs are designed to inhibit viral replication; which are designed to inhibit
a cytokine storm? Which are designed to boost the immune system? Which of these are out of patent protection? On that score, why are some medical authorities so determined to block the use of ivermectin? Further, there is evidence that some people who develop severe Covid symtoms are deficient in Vitamin D? This cannot be given as an antidote to an active case because of the time lag before it is converted in vitro into an active physiological agent but can be administered prophylactically to prevent deficiency which can occur when people with darker skin or insufficient skin exposure to sunlight can become deficient particularly in the winter months. (There is a limited range of foods which also contain some vitamin D).
December 23, 2021
I’m not sure that information is fully correct Sir John.
This is a letter that was sent out dated 14th December:
https://www.england.nhs.uk/coronavirus/wp-content/uploads/sites/52/2021/12/C1503-i-letter-contacintg-patients-about-new-covid-19-treatmenets-non-hospitalised-patients..pdf
New COVID-19 treatments for the highest risk non-hospitalised patients are now available on the NHS. These drugs have been shown to reduce hospitalisation and may reduce death and will be available for the highest risk patients, many of whom are under the care of specialties such as yours. These include intravenous neutralising monoclonal antibodies and oral antivirals. Local COVID-19 Medicine Delivery Units (CMDUs) will assess patients and prescribe these treatments….
December 23, 2021
This government web site has a bit more information:
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/first-oral-antiviral-for-covid-19-lagevrio-molnupiravir-approved-by-mhra
It seems Molnupiravir is authorised for use in people who have at least one risk factor for developing severe illness, e.g. ‘obesity, older age (>60 years), diabetes mellitus, or heart disease’. This sounds good, as Covid hardly threatens other sections of the population.
It’s an expensive drug, which the manufacturer, Merck, can expect to be hugely profitable. The US is paying $712 per patient for a course of the drug (The Intercept). According to the Evening Standard in November, the cost to the NHS ‘has not been announced’. I wonder why not.
December 23, 2021
Apologies:
This is from the website:
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/treatments-for-coronhttps://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/treatments-for-coronavirus/avirus/
Treatments for coronavirus (COVID-19)
The NHS is offering new antibody and antiviral treatments to people with coronavirus (COVID-19) who are at highest risk of becoming seriously ill.
2 types of COVID-19 treatment are available:
sotrovimab (Xevudy)
molnupiravir (Lagevrio)
Sotrovimab is a biological medicine. It is also known as a neutralising monoclonal antibody (nMAb).
Molnupiravir is an antiviral medicine.
December 23, 2021
your link says ‘Page not Found’
December 23, 2021
Butties – apologies – shoddy work on my part. Try this:
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/treatments-for-coronavirus/
December 23, 2021
The World Council for Health provide a comprehensive Early Treatment Guide:
Early Covid-19 treatment guidelines: A practical approach to home-based care for healthy families
https://worldcouncilforhealth.org/resources/early-covid-19-treatment-guidelines-a-practical-approach-to-home-based-care-for-healthy-families/
I hope your readership find it useful.
December 23, 2021
What about Fluvoxamine, it’s an old and well tested and tolerated drug that has been shown to be effective in clinical trials, there is certainly nothing to be lost by using it.
December 23, 2021
Turns out the guy who phoned into LBC to say his unvaccinated dad died of omicron at Northampton hospital … well the hospital says it never happened and it was a lie.
December 23, 2021
Just to give a flavour of what the NHS Treatment is
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/treatments-for-coronavirus/
Who can have a COVID-19 treatment
Treatments for COVID-19 are for people aged 12 and over who have tested positive for the virus and are at highest risk of getting seriously ill.
This includes some people who have:
• Down’s syndrome
• a rare condition affecting the brain or nerves (including multiple sclerosis, motor neurone disease, Huntington’s disease or myasthenia gravis)
• sickle cell disease
• certain types of cancer
• HIV or AIDS
• a severe liver condition (such as cirrhosis)
• chronic kidney disease (CKD) stage 4 or 5
• had an organ transplant
• certain autoimmune or inflammatory conditions (such as rheumatoid arthritis or inflammatory bowel disease)
• a condition or treatment that makes you more likely to get infections
• had certain types of chemotherapy in the last 12 months
• had radiotherapy in the last 6 months
Antiviral medicines such as molnupiravir are also available through a national trial, run by the University of Oxford.
The trial is open to people in the UK who:
• have tested positive for COVID-19 using a PCR test
• have COVID-19 symptoms that started within the last 5 days
• are aged 50 and over, or are aged 18 and over with a health condition that puts them at high risk of getting seriously ill from COVID-19
In my first post I omitted the word ‘Prophylactic’ !
December 24, 2021
A really good bit of progress would be for you to stop asking these inane and pointless questions which stop civil servants using their time to address serious matters like COVID.
December 24, 2021
What about Vitamin D ?
Studies have shown that it can prevent severe infection, not just of covid but of other Winter illnesses.
December 24, 2021
@Maylor +999
Too cheap – too easy – cuts into drug company profits and resulting perks.
December 24, 2021
But still the evade giving approval for something that really works: Ivermectin
The health ‘establishment’ has failed us in so many ways, especially those at the top of the tree, by not releasing the huge amount of accumulated data available on ways to fight the virus.
By insisting that vaccines are the only way they condemn many to an early death, both from the virus ineffectively treated and the use of vaccines themselves which have killed huge numbers.
There are very effective measures people could have taken to bolster their immune systems to fight off the virus, but in their usual way, so used to relying on drugs for a quick fix, they blatantly ignore the obvious – probably because it is relatively cheap, natural and does nothing for Big Pharmas profits.
Reply Ivermectin would need to pass NHS tests before use here.
December 24, 2021
Is it so controversial to talk about the things that would really make a difference?
December 24, 2021
JR: “Ivermectin would need to pass NHS tests before use here.”
Nonsense. It’s conventional use is as an ‘anti paracitic’, it is available already in the UK. The MHRA the regulatory agency that has taken funding from the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation ( You should ask why in Parliament ).
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/mhra-awarded-over-980000-for-collaboration-with-the-bill-and-melinda-gates-foundation-and-the-world-health-organisation
Ivermectin is safe, has billions of doses have been taken worldwide over forty years. It’s one of the safest and most effective medicines in the World.
Now, should it be prescribed ‘off label’? That surely should be a decision in the gift of your GP after a consult with you his patient. A GP has ten or so years training and experience. Why Matt Hancock, Chris Whitty or the useless money pit the MHRA should intermediate is a mystery.
December 24, 2021
I see the EU commission has set a time limit for the validity of their vaccine passport to 9 months reducing to 6 months in the future :
“If the date of vaccination is longer than 270 days ago, the mobile application used for verification will indicate the certificate as expired.”
So no more holidays to EU countries unless you get a booster every 6 months, no more eating in restaurants or going to events 😱.
Drip, Drip, Drip to our dystopian future.
December 24, 2021
Tedious it may be, but as it stands the effectiveness of the vaccines has been shown to wane over the months.
What point would there be in a certificate which proved nothing?
The decision, as to what types of premises the passes would permit access or not would be a matter for the member countries.
December 24, 2021
My husband was diagnosed with early stage Alzheimer’s and early stage Huntington’s disease. He is aware of what is going on some of the time but he refuses to bathe or do any of the things the doctors tell him. He could hardly get around because all he does is sit in front of the TV all day. He refuses to go for a walk or to a senior center and he refuses to bathe. I was beside myself as we cannot go anywhere when he is dirty and stinks. I didn’t know what to do, I could not physically overpower him and make him do things and when I ask him he tells me I am not his boss. There has been little if any progress in finding a reliable treatment. His Primary care provider introduced me to Kycuyu Health Clinic and their amazing Herbal treatments. The treatment is a miracle. the disease is totally under control. No case of delusion, disorientation, forgetfulness, making things up, hallucination, Muscle weakness, jumbled speech, loss of appetite or confusion in the evening hours.
December 25, 2021
Sharon – Good for you. Keep well away from prescribed supposed solutions.