IĀ understand people’s concern about the UK signing a world Treaty on healthcare that could make running the NHS difficult or otherwise constrain good UK policy choices. There are a lot of false rumours flying around. As there is currently no draft it isĀ not possible to say muchĀ on the wisdom or dangers of this particular idea.
The WHO has set up an International Negotiating Board to try to draft a binding Protocol over future responses to pandemics. The timetable is according to the WHO as below.
- The INB will host itsĀ second round of public consultation hearingsĀ on 16-17 June 2022.
- The INB will meet by 1 August 2022 to discuss and consider a working draft treaty.
- The INB will deliver a progress report to the 76thĀ World Health Assembly in 2023.
- The INB will submit its outcome for consideration by the 77thĀ World Health Assembly in 2024.
Those wishing to influence or oppose this development should respond to the consultation. I have already made it clear I do not favour the UK signing a Treaty but we should take good ideas from WHO and implement them as appropriate.
May 19, 2022
I am rather treatied-out. And think that evil China has too much influence over the WHO. So, no thanks!
May 19, 2022
I’m with you and our host on this one, SW. And I spent a little time attempting to find out which countries were participating in the International Negotiating Board but was confounded – can anyone help?
May 19, 2022
SM: “can anyone help?”
The WEF.
May 19, 2022
Sea Warrior.
I quite agree. China being a very large land mass could easily afford to lock down the affected area. It also has the state power to force citizens to obey.
That is the last thing we want here.
(From what I’ve read the EU, continued with many of the Covid restrictions after ours had been lifted.)
The W.H.O. ARE ALREADY CHANGING THE WORDING OF THE PRESENT TREATY.
They are now saying lock downs are the only solution to pandemics.
Personally I think our Government should GET OUT OF the present treaty and/or get out of the W.H.O..
Didn’t Trump do that? Or threaten it?
May 20, 2022
China: a country so worried about what was going on inside Wuhan that it suppressed internal air-travel while demanding the maintenance of external links.
May 20, 2022
Pauline Baxter
The EU doesn’t legislate on restrictions in the member countries
May 20, 2022
It didn’t actually legislate.
That is true bill.
But it pressurised member states to follow their entralised lead on Covid responses.
May 21, 2022
Peter 2
What you are writing doesn’t say anything
May 19, 2022
100% Agree – we all need a bit a breathing space to sort out our domestic affairs first
May 19, 2022
So the China-controlled WHO severely criticises China over its current approach to covid19.
How does that work, then?
May 20, 2022
I’d say it works pretty well, lad, if its occasional reproach to China distracts you and others from recalling the WHO’s track record: its praise of the Chinese Communist lockdown policy in 2020, and its farcical pretend ‘investigation’ in 2021 of the origins of the Covid outbreak in Wuhan.
May 20, 2022
Who is to enforce this treaty? The PLA?
May 19, 2022
Something seems to have gone very badly wrong with our “Democracy” if a Prime Minister can even CONSIDER signing a Treaty which passes responsibility for governing the country to a corrupted Globalist organisation like the WHO, effectively giving them the authority to close down our economy whenever they believe they can get away with it.
It also seems as though something is going badly wrong with our Constitution.
Prince Charles is visiting Canada as representative of his mother, our Constitutional Monarch. Whilst there, Trudeau has announced that they are having discussions about āSustainable finance in combating climate change and building a Net Zero economy.ā
Net Zero and the Climate Crisis propaganda is a political issue. There is no consensus and “the science” is not settled, despite the claims by the Eco Loons.
Why is the Heir to the Throne, on behalf of the Queen, having political discussions with Trudeau?
May 20, 2022
Donna – Charlie and Trudeau are both Globalists and promote the WEF agenda. Power and control is their aim. We are irrelevant in their eyes but change is coming.
May 20, 2022
Good points. If Boris can’t be bothered to govern the country he should make way for someone who wants to.
May 19, 2022
If the Chinese Marxist State and the US Socialist State want this to happen IT WILL HAPPEN irrespective of any and all opposition from whatever source
It is nothing less than a circumvention of nation State democracy by world leaders who despise freedom and accountability
The WHO has become a conduit for barbaric governments and their vile collectivist trash
For millions of western, freedom loving people it will be a step too far and the kickback against this deceit could bring down those who think they can treat us with contempt
May 20, 2022
Dom
Hitherto the masses have had it too good to do civil disobedience. Too much to lose.
That’s all changing.
May 19, 2022
One question.
Why did we vote ( supported by some MPs at least) to leave the EU??
Iām afraid we have been cheated and lied to too much to believe soft words about this.
The dystopian horror of signing up to such a treaty is beyond comprehension.
Look at what all the other International treaties have done to us!
May 19, 2022
As others have said, our MPs, weakened by our liberal education system and EU membership literally canāt hack it alone.
They need imperial or global direction.
Someone to blame when it all goes wrong!
May 19, 2022
I remember when the government spent thousands of pounds per week on overseas GPs who weren’t as competent or qualified as our own staff.Our own staff were taking in 3mnths what they took home in a week. This is just another ludicrous example of arrogant staff who rely on a few computer qualifications and trust the validity and competence of such.Of course they put the good experienced staff down to an even lower level so practitioners are lifting the higher paid and the lower paid.No on can understand the professional arrogance of those just made it . the salary chasers and the jealousy of good treatment.This may be a template for any other useless medics who are well protected as no one wants to pay out for mistakes.The twists of private firms has to be experienced to be believed.
May 19, 2022
We must not sign up. We must make our own free decisions.
I fear Boris, who likes to be famous, will sell us out again, this time to the WHO of the political international Left, which will gain power over our decision-making capability.
Boris won’t bother with examining the dangerous detail. His priviledged position will enable him to dodge instructions the rest of us will be forced to accept.
May 19, 2022
Yes, Bozo will want tobe the first to sign up to burnish his internationist credentials. Get the jo done, just ike the NIP being blackmailed and bullied by the EU.
May 20, 2022
Surely Raab will have to be consulted?
May 19, 2022
Like every other policy, sign up first and sort out the detail & function later
May 19, 2022
This is the wish list for the Pandemic Treaty and if Politicians canāt see the elephant traps then I give up.
https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/covid19/2022/03/30/a-new-pandemic-treaty-what-the-world-health-organization-needs-to-do-next/
May 19, 2022
Everhopeful.
Yes I read that and promptly signed the gov uk petition saying it must not be signed by U.K. government without very full discussion by our parliament.
It might even be demanding a referendum.
Since then I’ve discovered that the WHO are already changing the wording of the present treaty, that we are already signed up to.
They are already saying that extensive lock downs are the only possible response to what THEY decide to declare a pandemic.
Elephant traps indeed. Perhaps our P.M. does not want US to see them.
May 19, 2022
An interesting and frightening read. I notice that not one comment on this document is in favour of it.
It looks like a stitch-up and power grab from Biden and the EU.
The WHO hasn’t come through the pandemic without severe criticism so why do they think they should dictate what countries (or states as they refer to them) impose on their own people? It’s run by an unelected very dubious character. Why would our politicians give this organisation power over us?
If Boris signs us up for this against our will then he is finished. We have had enough of non-elected organisations running our lives.
May 19, 2022
@ Everhopeful – that LSE article actually states bold as brass “The justification for a pandemic treaty is that whilst the technical expertise on how to govern and end a pandemic exists, the political will to do so is missing.”!
So politicians, spineless and gutless as they appear to the unaccountable international bureaucrats, will in future post-treaty have their hands forced without any need for the little people being consulted let alone have their views taken into account.
May 19, 2022
No point in signing more treaties until we face up to the ones we already have
May 20, 2022
Great post !
+1
May 19, 2022
So just like the Global Compact for Migration the UNās sinister blueprint for globalist migration hell signed by the useless May.
May 19, 2022
Wasn’t in the Tory manifesto…..but heyho
May 19, 2022
Why would anybody sign-up to something without knowing what the ‘conditions’ were?
We were sold the ā¬U ‘pup’ by Heath, compounded by various PMs since. We should walk away from – nay, run away from – this whole idea, as fast as we can.
May 19, 2022
Tory social engineering at its best…..they know whats best for us plebs
May 19, 2022
Well Sir John.
You have explained the plans for the new WHO pandemic treaty BUT!
W.H.O. are RIGHT NOW, altering the wording of the present treaty, that we are already signed up to.
They are changing it to read that Lock Downs, Test and Trace and other non medical interventions are the only way to control a pandemic.
In other words, they are advising us to take all the measures that very nearly wreaked our economy and other good things about our country, when they declared Covid a Pandemic.
And under the influence of SAGE etc. our government followed blindly.
So IT HAS ALREADY HAPPENED ONCE.
It rather looks like the W.H.O. are planning to declare another pandemic soon. I.e. before they get this new treaty.
As I say, Our Government followed blindly.
Next time, the wording will encourage them more forcefully, to follow blindly.
May 19, 2022
Maybe thatās why this government is to continue to pay a company to maintain the NHS test & trace āappā to the tune of Ā£2.5million this year (when test & trace finished in March)
May 20, 2022
I don’t mind the government spending money to maintain an app that might be needed in the future – but I can’t understand why that would cost Ā£2.5m/year.
P.S. And when you look at the ‘cost’ of the Partygate inquiry, you get an implied workload of some 10 detective constable years.
May 19, 2022
The WHO Like all international organisations (NATO, EU,etc.) seek to gain more political power. Not sure they were much good on advising about Covid. They went to China and came back saying no problem.
On balance , with the exception of the UN which should be the only muiltistate organisantion, the rest cause more trouble for the ordinary citizen than good. The UN department of health is acceptable not some separate body like the WHO.
May 20, 2022
The UN has long been a an anti Western organization. That is why Trump didn’t want to pay for it.
May 19, 2022
That list is frightening, to give the incompetent WHO any control over Global anything is cause for great concern. The authors of this LSE piece, Global this, Global that and Global the other, are suggesting involvement of the World Bank, IMF, WTO et al which puts up an immediate red flag for me.
May 19, 2022
+1
May 19, 2022
Sir John, Please tell me the following is not true!
The WHA meets in Geneva from 22nd to 28th of this month and of particular interest will be whether the Assembly takes up any amendments to the International Health Regulations, if they do, then The WHO intends to amend 13 IHR articles: 5, 6, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 15, 18, 48, 49, 53, 59
On January 18th 2022, the United States Department of Health and Human Services proposed amendments to the IHR. These amendments give control over the declaration of a public health emergency in any member state to the WHO Director-General ā even over the objection of the member state.
The proposed IHR amendments also cede control to WHO āregional directors,ā who are given the authority to declare a Public Health Emergency of Regional Concern (PHERC). Moreover, the proposed amendments allow the Director-General to ring an international alarm bell, by unilaterally issuing an āIntermediate Public Health Alert (IPHA).ā
Put simply, the proposed IHR amendments are directed towards establishing a globalist architecture of worldwide health surveillance, reporting, and management. Consistent with a top-down view of governance, the public will not have opportunities to provide input or criticism concerning the amendments. This, of course, is a direct violation of the basic tenets of democracy and can be compared to the separate new pandemic treaty.
*Increased surveillance: Under Article 5, the WHO will develop early warning criteria that will allow it to establish a risk assessment for a member state, which means that it can use the type of modelling, simulation, and predictions that exaggerated the risk from Covid-19 over two years ago. Once the WHO creates its assessment, it will communicate it to inter-governmental organizations and other member states.
*48-hour deadline: Under Articles 6, 10, 11, and 13, a member state is given 48 hours to respond to a WHO risk assessment and accept or reject on-site assistance. However, in practice, this timeline can be reduced to hours, forcing it to comply or face international disapproval lead by the WHO and potentially unfriendly member states.
*Secret sources: Under Article 9, the WHO can rely on undisclosed sources for information leading it to declare a public health emergency. Those sources could include Big Pharma, WHO funders such as the Gates Foundation and the Gates-founded-and-funded GAVI Alliance, as well as others seeking to monopolize power.
*Weakened Sovereignty: Under Article 12, when the WHO receives undisclosed information concerning a purported public health threat in a member state, the Director-General may (not must) consult with the WHO Emergency Committee and the member state. However, s/he can unilaterally declare a potential or actual public health emergency of international concern. The Director Generalās authority replaces national sovereign authority. This can later be used to enforce sanctions on nations.
*Rejecting the amendments: Under Article 59, after the amendments are adopted by the World Health Assembly, a member state has six months to reject them. This means November, this year. If the member state fails to act, it will be deemed to have accepted the amendments in full. Any rejection or reservation received by the Director-General after the expiry of that period shall have no force and effect.
Due to the influence of private money at the WHO, a review in the Journal of Integrative Medicine & Therapy stated that the corruption of the WHO is the ābiggest threat to the worldās public health of our time.ā This is particularly true in relation to WHO drug recommendations, including its ālist of essential medicines,ā which a growing number of people believe is biased and unreliable.
Moreover, even though WHOās documents highlight voice, agency, and social participation as drivers of equity and democracy, it is unknown World Health Assembly delegates who get to make decisions for us.
Given consistent evidence that WHO is heavily conflicted and controlled by various industries, its usefulness as a guide to public health must be critically re-evaluated, while alternative paradigms and models for ethical health guidance and human rights are built.
May 19, 2022
Not a precursor to world governmentā¦but world government in our time
May 19, 2022
Yes we all need equitable access to experimental vaccines with emergency authorisations as these are also supported by some of the most successful businessmen, and their interests and ours as we know from experience are perfectly aligned especially after ignorant and stupid Tories have given the pushers indemnity against prosecution for causing harm.
There are no circumstances where it would be appropriate to give an international body the right to impose travel bans and curfews on people who do not want to be experimented on especially when the trials yielded so much collateral damage to subjects that no ethical organisation would have continued to push them.
May 19, 2022
Sir John, on the link you provided it states that the deadline for submissions was Wednesday 13 April 2022. So we have no way of making our feelings known to the WHO. We have to leave it to this government to refuse to sign it and the only way we can achieve that is writing to MPs. Please push as hard as you can to stop this.
May 19, 2022
SJR, It’s not just a future treaty. I think you may also need to consider the proposed amendments to the WHO’s International Health Regulations https://apps.who.int/gb/ebwha/pdf_files/WHA75/A75_18-en.pdf
These give the WHO extended powers to require sovereign countries to justify to the WHO any divergence they may want to follow from WHO directives. That link shows how the new arrangements would impose duties on countries that were previously recommendations, e.g. wording in terms of ‘may’ now gets replaced by ‘must’.
The last clause in the document seems to restrict the freedom of national parliaments to take country-specific decisions. The amended text is due to be debated by a meeting of the World Health Assembly, and perhaps ratified, in the next few days. It would be good to know if any British parliamentarians will be represented at this event.
May 19, 2022
We need government to withdraw all support from the WHO and ignore its pronouncements.
May 19, 2022
”As there is currently no draft….”
Then that’s cutting it a bit fine, to say the least, if things are to start moving next month!
And when was the ”first round of public consultation hearings”?
This really does NOT seem to bode well.
May 19, 2022
Boris should have learned his lesson on signing protocols that bind us to decisions we don’t agree with.
May 20, 2022
Christine – do you REALLY think he cares???
May 19, 2022
Public Consultation 16-17 June, wow! That much time?
May 19, 2022
Let’s just hope the WHO in future will not be in the pocket of China as per their disgraceful behaviour before and at the beginning of the pandemic.
If they try to lock us down again, I foresee public unrest and the end for any party who try to enforce it again. We know we were had last time. Boris should be more careful. He may not be concerned, being a transient politician, but we have long memories and he’s leaving a poisoned chalice if he signs up.
May 19, 2022
I doubt there’ll be public unrest. The thralls will just knuckle down and hope for the best, because that’s what their masters tell them – ”it’ll be all right next time….”. Hopeful people are easier to control.
And all the ‘parties’ are the same anyway.
May 19, 2022
China doesnāt need any kind of kinetic war to win influence, power and landā¦it just needs to control the many bodies of the UN (like its been doing with universities cross the globe)
May 19, 2022
It’s strange that the WHO hasn’t given out revised advice on the wearing of masks. Apparently there is scientific peer reviewed evidence now that where people were forced to wear masks all day the death rate was higher. They also cause all kinds of other health problems and it’s not good for the unborn. Also can someone explain why we are all ok even though our boosters only lasted for 2 months. I had mine done 6 months ago so I can’t have much or any protection left. This latest move by the WHO is just the beginning of more control.
May 19, 2022
I saw that programme this week about the wearing of masksā¦quite alarming that the wearing of masks resulted in more deaths (the advice of WHO and our own SAGE)
May 19, 2022
People of the British Isles are mostly decent folk who tend to do what is right in both our own citizens, interests and welfare as well as being fair to others around the world.
We do not need to surrender authority to some outside group to force us to maintain our natural inclination in favour of someone else’s notion of probity.
May 20, 2022
Hear hear.
May 19, 2022
Do you trust your government, see who attends the WEF gathering?
May 19, 2022
If as being reported in the media that the PM in principle has given his commitment to the proposals. Is there no end to this man’s arrogance and how totally out of touch he is with reality?
He is totally besotted with playing the world stage and the images that will be presented by the media for the furtherance of his own personal career.
May 19, 2022
With something so wide ranging, the Tory Party should wait and include the WHO proposal in its next manifesto for the people to decide….democracy
May 19, 2022
Are International Law and International Agreements in the interest of the United Kingdom? I think not. The worst day’s work we ever did was when in 1970 Lord Caradon signed up to the International Law on Treaties. This foolish act has led to the sanctification of the Good Friday Agreement and the Northern Ireland protocol, over which we are being told off by Sinn Fein no less. It is not so long since Sinn Fein was the political wing of the Provisional IRA.
May 19, 2022
Concur
May 19, 2022
This proposed Treaty is clearly madness. It has no value and is a complete denial of democracy, although that should come as no surprise from a body that is so enamoured with China. I am glad that you, Sir John, are opposed to it, and that is greatly to your credit. But can you explain why the cretinous traitor Boris Johnson has not rejected any involvement in this out of hand? That would be the correct response from a patriotic British government. Every day Boris proves he is too weak, too stupid, too internationalist and too treasonous to be PM. For God’s sake send your letter in to Graham Brady!
May 20, 2022
He is NOT British ! He was born an American (USA) and only obtained British Citizenship recently.
May 20, 2022
X-tory
You really have to learn to moderate the use of so many praising superlatives about everything and everybody
May 20, 2022
Have you heard the old saying that sarcasm is the lowest form of wit billy.
May 20, 2022
Peter 2
You should know but it is not very good
May 19, 2022
JR:”I have already made it clear I do not favour the UK signing a Treaty ..”
John Redwood is not in favour of signing this treaty.
JR: ” ..but we should take good ideas from WHO and implement them as appropriate.”
John Redwood is in favour of implementing the treaty by the back door.
This is why the Tory party is utterly useless.
By the way, at a time when everyone else’s energy costs are going through the roof, MPs have awarded themselves another Ā£2.5grand.
May 19, 2022
Boris has to be stopped from signing us up to this. Given the response to my concerns from our own MP I am not confident that government will resist signing up to it.
May 20, 2022
Question
Why does there have to be a treaty ?
Given that this how the EU work, we who voted Leave and wish to be a sovereign and independent country are rightly suspicious of this. I am all for protocols to be drawn up, but the final say must be with our parliament and elected officials. We the people must be able to hold the government to account via the ballot box. Take that away and you have revolution.
May 20, 2022
No, No, No , No, The Government must not sign up to this appalling treaty . What is it with the British establishment that makes them entertain such ? Haven’t they learned anything from Brexit? The problems of the people smugglers and the invasion on our Southern coast is the result of other treaties they signed us up to that makes us powerless to act.
You might have thought the political cost of asylum circus would make them reluctant to even contemplate signing away more of our Sovereignty, but here we are again, the people trying to stop the establishment recklessly giving away our Sovereignty , and worse giving it away to an organisation compromised by the CCP, an organisation whose advice over the Covid pandemic was wrong. As for the schedule you list it seems they are trying to steamroller us into to it before the public have been made aware of what is going on, and the dangers of it. This needs to be killed off and fast before we find ourselves too far into the process to get out of it.
May 20, 2022
I’ve already raised this with my MP – I await a reply…
It certainly needs debating in Parliament.
May 20, 2022
It’s encouraging to see that Sir John has concerns about the proposed treaty and has expressed them but he is just one voice in the cacophony of noise that is the House of Commons. I suggest anyone who has concerns email the PM. We need to remember that ultimately the Government governs with our consent. The power resides with us.
We are many. They are few.
May 20, 2022
Simply the concept of GIVING AWAY national authority to an international body that is totally out of democratic control should be enough for logical minds to dismiss this impertinent idea.
The WHO with its vast resources should be an advisory board, but demand power over our lives without limit — There is no way we can trust them to perform as benevolent dictators
May 21, 2022
A ‘binding protocol’ ! Says it all really.