Who generates the most CO2 per head?

Some people argue that the UK has a duty to cut its CO2 output more than others because we generate a high level per head. The latest figures available on the Worldometer show that some countries do indeed generate far more per head than the average, but these do not include the UK. The highest figuresĀ  naturally come from the world’s leading exporters of oil and gas, but they also include large manufacturing nations like Germany and China, as well as some countries with high incomes per head like Luxembourg and the USA.

 

 

The figures provided on Worldometer below show that there are 19 countries with more than double the UK’s output per head, and there are many more above the UK including large economies like Germany, Japan and China.

Per capita emissions in tonsĀ  Ā USA 15.5, Russia 11.44,Canada 18.58. South Korea 11.85, Saudi Arabia 15.94, Australia 17.1, Taiwan 11.72, Kazakhstan 13.01, UAEĀ  23.37,Ā  Kuwait 25.65, Qatar 37.29,Oman 19.61, Turkmenistan 14, Trinidad 25.38, Estonia 17, Montenegro 25, Luxembourg 17.5, BruneiĀ  18, Bahamas 11,

UK 5.5 tons per capita.

Is it right that all countries with high output per head, say over 10 tons each, should be made to cut more than others? How do we allow for the need for the export of oil and gas from some producers to other countries who need these fuels pending the roll out of the renewables based electrical revolution?

Most forecasts believe the world will still be burning 100m b/d of oil in 2030, given the growth in fossil fuel based activities in the major developing countries.

If China cut her CO2 output to UK per head levels total world CO 2 output would fall by 7.5% or by 7.5 times total UK CO2 output. CO2 campaigners should turn their attention to China. Ā Those who want the UK to produce less CO 2 than current levels should support stopping more migrants coming here, as more people generate more CO2.

149 Comments

  1. Mark B
    October 10, 2022

    Good morning.

    It is dangerous to compare apples to oranges.

    The UK and other far northern and southern nations will always use more energy compared to equatorial states due, obviously, to their location.

    Then you have to take into account the type of economy they are. Are they agricultural, industrial or service ? Or are they a mixture or not even fully developed ?

    Do large parts of the population reside in cities or rural locations ?

    Do they have high levels of migration ?

    What is their land mass and what resources said land has ?

    This is all a tangled nonsense designed to confuse. Classic bull**** baffles brains stuff ! The whole SCAM is a carefully crafted nonsense designed to rob us of our wealth and our liberties, and the sooner more people call this SCAM out and drive out its false prophets of doom the better we will be.

    No more false religion(s).

    1. Lifelogic
      October 10, 2022

      Indeed plus many governments like the UK are suffering from the mad, group think, “CO2 is the devil gas religion” and so then they fiddle the figures in the ways I have indicated and in many other ways. Mainly by exporting energy intensive activities and jobs plus pretending burning imported wood at Drax and elsewhere does not produce CO2 when it is worse than coal. This to show how well they are doing with their mad agenda.

      Manufacturing EV cars and batteries for example uses loads of fossil fuels for example typically as much as the EV car uses doing about 80,000 miles. So keeping your old car saves far more CO2 worldwide than buying a new EV (even if you do manage to do 160,000 miles (using on typical a UK electricity mix to charge) as you will almost certainly need a new second battery to do this and UK electricity production uses loads of fossil fuel. So why are the government pushing these? I note the public do not want them much only about 1 in 600 cars is non fossil fuel.

      EVs are not “zero emission” but “emissions elsewhere” and rather more of them too. They pay almost no tax for their road use or to the treasury for other use unlike Petrol and Diesel cars. So why exactly are you doing this Mrs Anne-Marie Trevelyan? Trevelyan did read a STEM subject too (maths at Oxford Poly) so she should be able understand these numbers. (Though St Paul’s Girls’ School & then maths at Oxford Polytechnic rather suggest she was not actually any good at maths). Truss did at least manage get a place for maths at Oxford Uni. and from a comp. school before ditching it for PPE.

      1. Lifelogic
        October 10, 2022

        Though it seems it was not really a comp. school when she started.

    2. Berkshire Alan
      October 10, 2022

      Mark B

      Indeed, the more you dig down into the various details, the more screwed up become the facts, and the so called reasons and results.
      Taken to its logical conclusion, if people did not eat, drink, generate heat, light, and power, and did not build anything, or move about, we could reduce Co2 !
      But the cost would be the end of human life.
      Similar arguments can be made about water, it’s essential for Life, but stick your head in a bucket of it for 10 mins and it does you extreme harm, life is about a sensible balance.
      That balanced point has not yet been agreed, because no one has yet proven their argument, but follow the money, and it starts to make some sense.

    3. turboterrier
      October 10, 2022

      Mark B
      Very good post Mark and the last paragraph is oh so true.

      1. Hope
        October 10, 2022

        Perhaps we should count the co2 of immigrants and add it to their country of origin! As illegal immigrants are non contributors to our society perhaps their travel here and the build of four star hotels.

        1. a-tracy
          October 11, 2022

          Brittania Hotels are rubbing their hands together, all they have to do for a couple of years or more is put in three cleaners and leave the organisers to the cooking. Full occupancy for no work 52 weeks per year. They’re not thinking whats going to happen to their hotels longer term, but if they get enough to do them up afterwards perhaps it can help them out of a hole.

          The big problem is how long it will take to process these boat people, and the cost of interpreters, we need to bring lawyers in from their Countries that speak their language otherwise, we’ll never get through it. Why isn’t the UN stepping in earlier in these countries of excess populations, with contraception programs and two-child policies? The rest of the World can’t afford their problems. We’re told the UK has 4.3 million children living in poverty JRF, 14.5 million people it doesn’t say how many were born here. We are now providing over 20% of children with free school meals. We are told we need more care assistants to sit with lone children with behaviour problems, if their mother doesn’t work why isn’t she bought into school and taught alongside her child?

      2. Al
        October 12, 2022

        It would be interesting to see what the CO2 per person/country would be if you factor in who consumes the manufactored goods and services. E.g. co2 emitted in China in order to manufacture goods bound for the UK would be listed as UK CO2.

    4. Nottingham Lad Himself
      October 10, 2022

      It’s useful to understand the bargaining position of other countries.

      It isn’t just the CO2-per-head, it’s also the historic CO2 total from those countries as compared with that from more recently-developed ones, and upon which their wealth and pre-eminence is founded.

      1. Mickey Taking
        October 10, 2022

        So we should take into account the Mongol empire, The Romans, The Vikings plundering the North, the Spanish in S.America, the Ottomans, the Austrians? Should we add many more?

      2. Peter2
        October 10, 2022

        We need to reduce historic CO2 says NHL
        Hilarious

      3. outsider
        October 10, 2022

        Dear Lad, Actually the usual historic anti-imperialist guilt stuff is pretty irrelevant here; the upward trend in Northern hemisphere temperatures only broke out of the usual cycles in about 1950. If China et al want to do as they please, churn out ever more Co2 and blame us for any impact on the world’s population there is nothing we can do to stop them. But perhaps you would agree that imposing heavy climate tariffs on energy-intensive manufactured imports might delay acceleration in warming by a year, even two, which is much more than accelerated UK Net Zero.

      4. a-tracy
        October 10, 2022

        NLH, in 2002 there were 59 million vehicles in India, in 2019 there were 295 million vehicles. How many cows were there in India 100 years ago and more, how many fires šŸ”„ did they have in India who is counting? They have open air funeral pyres, how far back do you want to measure this carbon, what was released in the past isnā€™t going to make one jot of difference in the future.

        I am getting mighty sick of people like you Martin denigrating our Country.

    5. Peter
      October 10, 2022

      I am not really interested in claims about who generates most CO2 per head. I just want rid of the Net Zero approach anyway.

      I have sympathy with Mike below. Like the blame game a so-called ‘Worldometer’ is something of a distraction from real issues.

  2. Lifelogic
    October 10, 2022

    Well firstly cutting CO2/net zero is pointless and a very damaging thing to be doing. As we see with the absurdly high energy prices they (not really Putin) have created and the huge economic damage this causes.

    Also UK figures are fiddled by idiotically exporting major energy intensive industries like manufacturing, car & battery production, wind farm manufacturing, fertilisers, chemicals, steel, construction materials, power generation, fishing, farming, flower productionā€¦ also by pretending that burning imported wood at Drax does not produce CO2 when it actually produces more CO2 than coal would for the same output.

    1. miami.mode
      October 10, 2022

      Just had the LibDem fool Davey on TV saying we must continue to help Ukraine, but how on earth does he expect us to assist them with armaments if we lose the ability to make steel in a conventional way – subcontract the work to China?

      1. Lifelogic
        October 10, 2022

        +1 or if we have energy blackouts. We would struggle to defend ourselves let alone Ukraine.
        I see George Osborne is warning Truss of general election wipe out over her “political experiment”.
        No George the political experiment was New Labour started by Chancellor Gordon Brown and continued by Darling, Osborne, Hammond and Sunak. It was one of tax, borrow, piss down the drain, print money and currency debase. It failed any anyone sensible knew it would. 25 years of dire big state and over regulated, green crap, socialism and market rigging and then the moronic Covid lockdown too.

        It is not 3 weeks of Truss and 45%. Even the dope Osborne cannot really think this surely!

      2. Richard II
        October 10, 2022

        We can help it to the negotiating table, MM, as many people internationally have long been advising. A neutral Ukraine, with security guarantees from the West, would have been a decent outcome. Johnson’s blundering intervention in April may unfortunately now have put that beyond reach. Stoking up a forever conflict is no solution, and I really don’t want WW III Mr Biden, Mr Putin, thank you very much.

      3. a-tracy
        October 11, 2022

        We need to decide whether we want to concentrate help on the 29.1% of children on free school meals in the North East. We rescue the rest of the world who really don’t appreciate our interference and then blame the UK for going to their rescue.

    2. Lifelogic
      October 10, 2022

      The Daily Mail front page tells me today that Universities are even trying to decolonise thermodynamics so mad are people nowadays.

      Also that Prince Charles is going for a “cut price” Coronation. Well, have it at the weekend then and/or do not have a Bank Holiday as that will cut the price for me by Ā£8,000 (wages due with zero making or sales).

      I have already lost Ā£16,000 for the two extra royal B/Hols we have had already. It will also cost the government about Ā£6,000 in reduced Corp. Tax on profits from me. Total cost net of a bank holiday is prob. about Ā£3 billion though clearly some sectors do benefit.

      1. Mickey Taking
        October 10, 2022

        That’s very distressing. I don’t know how you sleep at night.

      2. Al
        October 10, 2022

        +1 Lifelogic

        If the coronation is a bank holiday, they should do the full ceremony. Let the country at least get money back in tourism and projected soft power.

        If the coronation is slimmed to the hour in a day that they are willing to spare, with reduced ceremony and resulting loss of revenue from tourism, PR and film rights, hold it on a Sunday when most businesses are closed anyway.

      3. Donna
        October 10, 2022

        Perhaps he could do us all a favour and scrap it completely.

  3. DOM
    October 10, 2022

    Maybe the British State should impose daily mandatory carbon monitoring of all adults? I can’t think of a more efficient method to assert total control over the economic life of each person and all for a ‘good cause’ ie protecting the environment. I am sure all politicians who embrace the climate and Co2 reduction agenda would also agree that private freedoms and the profit motive are an anathema to the fight against ‘climate change’ (whatever this may mean)

    Maybe the Tory party working their buddies in the Labour party could arrange such a system since they now both believe in climate change ideology.

    1. Lifelogic
      October 10, 2022

      Indeed and all the parties have foolishly worshiped this net zero religion for many years. Only a tiny handful did not vole for Miliband’s insane Climate Change Act 14 years back (JR, Anne Widecombe, Peter Lilley in this tiny handful and there was not even a sensible cost benefit analysis done). A vast amount of economic (and environmental) damage had been done by this deluded agenda over the last 14 years and this now continues in spades even under Truss.

    2. Donna
      October 10, 2022

      Oh they’re working on it Dom. A Chinese-style Social Credit Scheme and the ability to monitor us 24/7 would be the British Establishment’s Nivarna.

    3. IanT
      October 10, 2022

      I’m afraid to admit that apart from any CO2 I’m emmitting DOM, I also seem to be generating more methane these days. The only mitigating factor I can offer is that methane is not persistent in the atmosphere, so maybe I can be spared any culling that might be proposed (along with our dairy herds)?

      1. Fedupsoutherner
        October 10, 2022

        Ian. Think how much worse your methane problem will be when you have to eat more vegetables and cut out meat. All those cows will die for nothing.

    4. a-tracy
      October 10, 2022

      The monitoring has started informally, smart phones now tell people if they’re not getting adequate steps or exercise – only problem I don’t carry my smartphone when I exercise and don’t have it on my person in exercise class – next will be I have to wear a watch connected to my phone to make sure I tick the exercise box to get extra credits and offset my naughty trips in a car.

  4. turboterrier
    October 10, 2022

    We have had 12 years of the Conservatives at the helm and have big majority in parliament and the country seems still to be imploding with the overwhelming desire to be the outright leader of the battle to reduce CO2.
    Ever since we started on this path all those many years ago and passed laws to drive change and allowed a process to involve into a religion which has become totally out of control when it comes to acting with common sense and realistic goals.
    All the while it has dominated our political arena if everything we seem to do vast areas of our daily lives have been affected. The terrifying thing is that it has consumed political thinking and all the parties are in the vanguard to lead the world at at any cost. The 8% of politicians who see things different are overwhelmed and there will be no changes at all in the direction dictated by all the laws we are bound by.

    1. Wanderer
      October 10, 2022

      TurboT. Very true, unfortunately. It’s difficult to see how change will come given their control of the media and education. Plus in the short term they can just print more money to paper over the social cracks.

      1. IanT
        October 10, 2022

        “..in the short term they can just print more money to paper over the social cracks…”

        I’m not sure that’s quite so true any more Wanderer. They can certainly try to do so but the Bond Markets will not be very happy with that and without strangers willing to buy your bonds, QE doesn’t work any more.
        This is true for everyone now, including the US. It may not be apparent straight away but the options that governments have going forward are now much reduced.

    2. R.Grange
      October 10, 2022

      You could have said the same 20-30 years ago, TT, about the apparent political consensus that the EEC/EU was a great thing and we absolutely had to be part of it. But then a majority voted for Brexit, because some politicians fought for it and got a referendum. That is the way to go again.

      1. miami.mode
        October 10, 2022

        RG it just proves how out of touch most of our politicians are. Nobody seemed more surprised than David Cameron when he promised a referendum and got a majority and the final proof was the huge majority Boris got when he said he would get Brexit done.

        1. R.Grange
          October 11, 2022

          Well, they are in touch, but who they are in touch with, we aren’t usually allowed to know. Sometimes we find out who’s pulling their strings. Like Mrs Johnson, for example.

    3. a-tracy
      October 11, 2022

      turboterrier the original manifesto said by 2050 Boris upgraded it to by 2030. Liz needs to put it back to what the electors through we voted for. This stick the manifesto goes both ways. “Reaching Net Zero by 2050 with investment in clean energy solutions and green infrastructure to reduce carbon emissions and pollution.”

      We will do everything to bring this target forward in areas that we can without impoverishing our people and not having sufficient power to grow.

  5. Lifelogic
    October 10, 2022

    Worldwide wind and solar provide less than 2% of human used energy (electricity, heating, transport, industryā€¦) Even this figure does not really account for the extra fuel used to build the wind/solar farms, the loss of farming land produce (then imported) and fossil fuels to provide back up for them. The figures for the UK are slightly higher but not that much. Wind and Solar are largely irrelevant in the overall scheme of things.

    Charles Moore say the BBC is the broadcasting arm of the anti-growth coalition indeed but Milibandā€™s Cameronā€™s, Trussā€™s, Boris’s and Mayā€™s net zero lunacy giving us expensive, intermittent energy does much more damage.

    1. Dave Andrews
      October 10, 2022

      This anti-growth moniker is a misnomer. All politicians clamour for growth, to make their borrowing look less bad.
      What we really should be talking about is the anti-small-state.

    2. glen cullen
      October 10, 2022

      Has the coastline sea level of the UK risen ā€“ NO
      We have coast erosion due to tides and waves but the actual height of sea level around our coast hasnā€™t changed in my lifetime
      CO2 isnā€™t the problem ā€“ the problem is the power & influence of the climate crusade lobby

    3. a-tracy
      October 11, 2022

      LL according to the big bloke from the SNP “Scotland gets 100% of its power covered by renewables if they didn’t have to share it.” He didn’t say whether Scotland alone paid for this power source, the windmills, the connectors etc.

  6. Lifelogic
    October 10, 2022

    Sturgeon:- ā€œI detest Tories and all they stand for.ā€

    Well that should certainly help the Tories to get some more votes. I detest the policies that Sturgeon and the many other deluded socialist stand for and the vast damage their policies do to Scotland, the UK and around the World. But I do not detest them personally. Indeed I feel rather sorry for them in being so deluded, ignorant & dim to see reality. Also many of them suffer from huge chips on their shoulders and from the evil politics of envy.

    1. Fedupsoutherner
      October 10, 2022

      LL. Does she really want to say she detests the English? If you want to see racism at its finest just go north of the border.

    2. Mickey Taking
      October 10, 2022

      ‘I do not detest them personally’. However, it is difficult to turn the other cheek.

    3. Fedupsoutherner
      October 10, 2022

      Blackford says the wind energy in Scotland is theirs and shouldn’t be for the rest of the UK. So is it only us they won’t share with or those other countries they share interconnectors with? What happens when they need to import energy when the wind doesn’t blow or blows too hard? Never mind that it was UK tax payers money that funded it all. Who needs enemies with friends like them?

      1. a-tracy
        October 10, 2022

        FuS – who paid for all the windmills and interconnectors in Scotland? Who paid for all their roads and bridges, just the Scottish taxpayers? Don’t make me laugh.

    4. a-tracy
      October 10, 2022

      I read this and just thought, what are the top three policies Tory supporters vote for that she detests? Did the interviewer ask her? I do not agree with this sort of hate speech towards others who believe different things to you. Most of the strong, angry socialists I know are very rich teens and twenties who if they actually got their socialist state wouldn’t know what had hit them.

    5. IanT
      October 10, 2022

      Maybe Nicola should focus on actually governing Scotland with the extensive powers she already has?

      The SNP have real problems in Education, Health and Drug addiction, not to mention building Ferries. Andrew Neil completely destroyed her during the last interview I saw, something I imagine she is no hurry to repeat.

    6. Richard M
      October 10, 2022

      Except she was misquoted and said THE Tories, which is quite understandable, as it seems more and more Scottish do. It was Truss who got personal in actually saying Sturgeon is an attention seeker who ought to be ignored, which was just crass and obnoxious.
      Scotland voting intention :
      SNP: 45% (-1 from 18-23 May)
      Lab: 31% (+9)
      Con: 12% (-7)
      Lib Dem: 7% (+1)
      Green: 3% (=)
      Reform UK: 1% (=)

      Source
      @YouGov

      1. Mickey Taking
        October 10, 2022

        do you dispute that Sturgeon is an attention seeker?

      2. a-tracy
        October 10, 2022

        Richard II, “the Tories” are everybody that votes to elect the Tories. It is every one that supports supposed Tory policies, in fact, that are lots of people that believe ‘the Tories’ don’t go far enough just read Hope’s comments and Doms.

    7. Lifelogic
      October 10, 2022

      The Daily Mail front page tells me today that Universities are even trying to decolonise thermodynamics so mad are people nowadays.

      Also that Prince Charles is going for a “cut price” Coronation. Well, have it at the weekend then and/or do not have a Bank Holiday as that will cut the price for me by Ā£8,000 (wages due with zero making or sales).

      I have already lost Ā£16,000 for the two extra royal B/Hols we have had already. It will also cost the government about Ā£6,000 in reduced Corp. Tax on profits from me. Total cost net of a bank holiday is prob. about Ā£3 billion though clearly some sectors do benefit.

    8. Lifelogic
      October 10, 2022

      Then again when they propose rent controls and similar proposals as Ed Miliband, the SNP and many socialists do (which is essentially just theft of people’s property and property values) perhaps one should indeed detest them. Does nothing good for tenants either!

      1. Lifelogic
        October 10, 2022

        Is it perhaps quite reasonable to detest people who rob you to try to buy the votes of others with these stolen assets?

  7. Sharon
    October 10, 2022

    Being that thereā€™s less CO2 in the atmosphere now than there was 100ā€™s of years ago before industrialisation – Iā€™m sick of hearing about it! Sorry, but itā€™s all hypothetical political nonsense.

    1. Lifelogic
      October 10, 2022

      Indeed Google “a dearth of CO2” video by Dr Patrick Moore and others sense from Prof. William Happer, Prof. Lindzen, Freeman Dyson and many others.

    2. Ian Wragg
      October 10, 2022

      Correct. It’s a manufactured scam to control us.
      Klaus must be laughing his socks off.
      The sad thing is the idiots incharge believe the nonesense and are prepared to kill, maim and bankrupt the population following this pseudo religion.
      I think an uprising luke what is happening in Iran is called for.

    3. Lifelogic
      October 10, 2022

      Primates first appeared in the fossil records nearly 55 million years ago. We have had more than double the current levels of CO2 over this period. This does not seems to have reduced the population growth of primates very much as we now have about 8 billion of them. They also tended to do rather better in warmer climates than colder ones.

      Ditch the net zero religion and war on harmless CO2, save the money being wasted on it and use the vast saving to adapt as needed – be it colder/hotter/wetter/dryer. This is surely the rational policy.

      1. Lifelogic
        October 10, 2022

        Actually net beneficial CO2.

    4. James1
      October 10, 2022

      The notion that politicians can control the climate of the earth is simply absurd. Let alone that any warming can be controlled to within half a degree. This should not even have to be stated. Itā€™s laughable. Stupefyingly stupid. Ridiculous nonsense. Thereā€™s a big fiery ball called the sun, and another thing called clouds, and no amount of political posturing influences either.

      1. Mickey Taking
        October 10, 2022

        and if we stopped tipping billions of tons of plastics, sewage and flushing out tankers into the seas, then we might have healthier oceans and a better natural balance ecologically for all creatures to continue living.

      2. Lifelogic
        October 10, 2022

        Millions of other factors too – orbits, volcanoes, meteor impacts, vegetation, sunspot activity…

      3. Bloke
        October 10, 2022

        Climate changes because the Earth rotates tilted at 23.5 degrees. Even a billion errant climate activists jumping on the Equator could not make a second of difference.

    5. Diane
      October 10, 2022

      Tend to agree, force fed daily, when there’s so much else requiring immediate attention to our environment, sewage, sewerage, rivers, water security, waste disposal, landfill…. And, as of yesterday, there are now a further 1065 UK arrivals ( in 25 boats ) to be kept warm and their every need catered for requiring more Ā£ millions.

    6. glen cullen
      October 10, 2022

      Its one big scam alright

  8. turboterrier
    October 10, 2022

    The whole Western World have been fed the sales pitch from the snake oil salesmen and the financial institutions have seized the amazing opportunity to make billions from the whole package.
    It is they that are behind the scenes quietly stoking up the fear factors ensuring we are herded into their desired arena as the panic eventually takes over and all their long term investments come to fruition. They have created a new religion out of fear and there is no end to the rewards.
    All the while the countries and their people suffer and for what? To try and control a gas that is essential for the planet to survive.

    1. Lifelogic
      October 10, 2022

      +1

    2. Fedupsoutherner
      October 10, 2022

      Great post Turbo.

  9. Mike
    October 10, 2022

    More BS topic stuff today to get our minds off what’s really happening in this country – yes stuff like worldometer. Jeez

    Reply. The arguments over CO2 are central to economic policy. I want the UK to produce more of our own energy and have more energy intensive industry rather than importing.

    1. Lifelogic
      October 10, 2022

      To reply – then get Truss to pause net zero religion and all the vast energy market rigging and transport market rigging for the next 100 years at least.

      1. Lifelogic
        October 10, 2022

        Adaptation to the climate change as we always have done – be it hotter, colder, dryer, wetter, windier or calmer is the sensible policy. Using the cheap fossil fuels we have left (200 years plus) to fund this. Meanwhile developing better nuclear and practical fusion and other better technology. Not the government trying to pick winners and as usual getting it totally wrong.

    2. Lifelogic
      October 10, 2022

      The current energy policies are perhaps the main cause of the economic damage that the government is doing that and having a hugely inefficient state sector that is over twice the size it should be. One that delivers very poor public service and even delivers much net harm in many areas.

    3. Nigl
      October 10, 2022

      Mike. Spot on. With the government in deep trouble this is a populist deflection strategy as is blaming the BOE.

      Sir JR knows full well that his proposals will take umpteen years to come on stream and not make a scintilla of difference to our current situation.

      They will be out of office especially as Truss is turning into May 2. I see the latest is crumbling on benefits and inflation. So workers, people on private pensions etc who also are due to pay even more tax as allowances are frozen, the 1p cut due is a political stunt suffer a lower standard of living, but if you live off the State you wonā€™t.

    4. Fedupsoutherner
      October 10, 2022

      Agree John. We were only saying this morning while watching the farmers harvesting a crop that farming should be near or at the top of the priority list. Without farming we can’t exist. Simple. We need more produced at home for food security.

    5. Nigl
      October 10, 2022

      And in another example of meaningless virtue signalling we see Truss getting tough on China re wording about Confucius Institutes. Maybe if she banned/cut back the vast numbers of Chinese students that keep our Unis going or investments in power/infrastructure projects that would make a real difference, and we would believe her.

    6. IanT
      October 10, 2022

      What’s happening in this Country that isn’t happening elsewhere?

      * Energy crisis? Well gas is five time more expensive in Europe than in the US but then they fracked…
      * Interest Rates? (e.g. Mortgages) Happening in Europe and US too. Rates simply returning to pre-2008 levels
      * Cost of Living? Inflation is lower here than on average across the EU and also lower than Germany or Holland. In the US it’s running at 8.3% even with lower energy costs and a strong Dollar.

      The problems we have are global in nature and caused by Central Banks (and Governments) printing too much money (QE) and creating asset bubbles. This is all now going to unwind. Watching Jonathan Ashworth yesterday (on Sky) it was very obvious that Labour have absolutely no idea how to solve the problem either.

      1. IanT
        October 10, 2022

        Sorry getting my TV channels mixed up!

        Jonathan Ashworth was on the Andrew Neil Show on Channel 4 (not Sky) and Mr Neil gave him the customary thrashing by simply asking obvious questions about Labours spending and taxation plans – and not being put off by the usual ‘duck & evade’ tactics routinely deployed by our political classes.
        And when pushed for believable answers, unfortunately our poor Jonathan had none at all.

  10. SM
    October 10, 2022

    ‘Who generates the most CO2 per head?’ ~ well, frankly, I DON’T CARE.

    I CARE about the wars being waged by religious fanatics and demagogues, from Russia to the Middle East to vast swathes of Africa.

    I CARE about the vile and appalling use of, and international trade in, narcotics that has lead to unbelievable violence and corruption at local and State levels across the globe.

    I CARE about the utter lack of integrity in far too many Governments and pan-governmental bodies around the world that leads both to voter cynicism and unsustainable migration between too many countries and continents.

    I CARE about the growth of bullying at school and college that I hear about from friends and relatives with children, leading to tragic cases of self-harm and attempted suicide.

    And I CARE about the vile encouragement of ‘me, me, me!’ attitudes encouraged by social media, in what appears to be every walk of life, from the obligations of employment to whatever is currently acceptable to self-appointed gurus in environment, education, culture, race and gender (to name only some areas).

  11. Shirley M
    October 10, 2022

    If the UK were perfection itself we would still be criticised by certain groups and individuals. It is nothing to do with facts, it is more about punishing the UK for sins of the past (ignore any good deeds as they don’t count). I have never known a country come under so much attack, often from it’s own people. No other country is being vilified in this way, and some of them have performed many atrocities, even against their own people. We, in the UK, did our best to abolish slavery, we lost lives fighting slavery and we spent a vast amount of money abolishing slavery but yet you would think we were the only country in the world to benefit from it. We have repaid it many times over and no, nobody can ever replace lost lives, be they black OR white!

    1. Fedupsoutherner
      October 10, 2022

      Well said Shirley.

      1. Mark B
        October 11, 2022

        +1

  12. Donna
    October 10, 2022

    Why are we discussing who generates the most harmless plant food? CO2 is greening the planet by encouraging plant growth and “our” 1% is irrelevant to the global volume.

    Is it so we can see how much self-harm we must do in order to comply with the UN’s Agenda 2030, which aims to transfer our wealth to countries which remain undeveloped mainly because they have appalling governments which do not prioritise the well-being of their own people?

    1. Shirley M
      October 10, 2022

      The ‘solution’ appears to be to fund these appalling governments. As we also have an appalling government that does not prioritise the well-being of our own people do you think some of those nations will help fund ours? Our government throws money at illegals while depriving the Brits, but we deprived people are expected to fund the governments largesse which keeps the illegals in comfort while we freeze!

  13. Roy Grainger
    October 10, 2022

    “Is it right that all countries with high output per head, say over 10 tons each, should be made to cut more than others?”

    “should be made to” – How do you suggest we do that ? Invade China ? I’m opposed to supranational bodies trying to “make” individual countries do things.

  14. Pat
    October 10, 2022

    Good morning

    Let’s get to the crux of the matter

    AGW and atmospheric modelling are complex and we rely on specialist modellers to advise us. Most of those specialists, but not all, conclude that AGW is a very serious problem.
    Per capita CO2 figures based on production are inherently misleading, hence today’s farcical situation where political virtual signalling is increasing global CO2 emissions by prohibiting local industry in favour of imports.

    Per capita CO2 emissions should be based on consumption, not production.

    1. Fedupsoutherner
      October 10, 2022

      Why bother at all when CO2 is not a problem in the first place?

      1. glen cullen
        October 10, 2022

        100% correct

    2. Peter2
      October 10, 2022

      Totally agree Pat.
      Sadly, extremist lefty greens want to destroy Western capitalism.

    3. miami.mode
      October 10, 2022

      Pat, the crux of the matter is that a lot of the modellers would have to look for alternative employment if their modelling did not prove what they want to prove

  15. Mickey Taking
    October 10, 2022

    A more worthwhile campaign to ‘save the world’ would be the removal of plastics and human waste from the world’s rivers and oceans.

    1. glen cullen
      October 10, 2022

      But 99% of all plastic and pollution waste in rivers, seas and ocean are emitted from five major deltas ā€¦however those deltas are in East Africa, India and China ā€“ whoā€™s going to force them to clean up

  16. Graham
    October 10, 2022

    Renewables based electrical revolution?
    Based on solar panels and wind turbines that work- maybe- 10% of the time and require gas or diesel generators to run constantly to back them up. We’ll also have batteries that have the most polluting mining and manufacturing process you can imagine, don’t last that long and burst into flames randomly. But not to worry they’ll be flat anyway because the government will have destroyed any hope of the electricity grid actually charging them.
    I wonder how long it will be before the people decide they’ve had enough BS and want a noose and lamp post based revolution instead.

  17. Stred
    October 10, 2022

    How on Earth do Montenegro and Estonia get into the top league for CO2? Last time I went to Montenegro there was bugger all there. Maybe brewing and brothels cause a lot.

    1. Mickey Taking
      October 10, 2022

      did you have a good time?

  18. Bryan Harris
    October 10, 2022

    I suppose there are several things to thank the high producers of Co2 for – For a start the world has never been more productive in terms of food creation. That potential is still growing.

    The fact that the people who want to close our world down allowed so many loop holes in the COP agreements to allow so many countries to avoid doing anything is a scandal. Something the people on the streets are beginning to notice is how Net Zero is being used against the West – To weaken us, prey to all that could come along.

    Unfortunately, there are far too many foul things waiting for our demise to list here.

  19. Wil
    October 10, 2022

    Individuals create CO2 via consumption.
    The higher the GDP the greater the consumption.
    Lets all return to the pre industrial age living conditions.

    1. Bryan Harris
      October 10, 2022

      Why don’t we all go and jump off a cliff like lemmings that we are, and end it quicker?

  20. turboterrier
    October 10, 2022

    Reply to reply
    Too true Sir John.
    But to many it would seem, its the only policy the 92% of the house concentrate on.
    The things that you and we want is by the by.

  21. No Longer Anonymous
    October 10, 2022

    Much of China’s per capita CO2 should be transferred onto the West and the UK as they do so much of our work and produce most of the things we buy.

    To argue this way is fruitless and complicated.

    What needs saying is that CO2 reduction results in immediate poverty in the UK. Politicians need to admit that there is no alternative to poverty, stop lying that windmills will keep us warm and King Charles needs to tell us exactly what he meant all this time – that Carbon sacrifice is only for the Little People and not for him in any meaningful way.

    Then politicians and King Charles must stand (or fall) on that truth in their reason for being among the population that pays for them.

    1. No Longer Anonymous
      October 10, 2022

      PS, I expect Sir David Attenborough’s lifetime carbon usage has exceeded the building of the Titanic. He’s only just given up eating steak for goodness sake. We are yet to have his state funeral which the BBC will ensure is as big as the Queen’s.

  22. turboterrier
    October 10, 2022

    The rural area I live the lanes are at this moment a sea of mud as the farmers are harvesting all their crops which are mainly for animal feed. The whole operation is impressive with convoys of tractors and trailers taking the crops away and the massive harvesting machines being transported around the area.
    I asked the farmer “how are you going to do this with all electric driven plant”?
    The reply was quite lengthy and totally unprintable.
    That’s how stupid all of this is.
    Too many decisions being made with no consideration on their consequences.

    1. Mark B
      October 11, 2022

      Agreed.

      But how many of our MP’s are farmer, industrialists, and business leaders ?

      Very few I aver.

  23. Glenn Vaughan
    October 10, 2022

    If King Charles III and his Royal Family scrapped wasteful overseas tours and Sir David Attenborough retired (long overdue) then the issue of climate change would be eliminated.

    1. Mickey Taking
      October 10, 2022

      I would think we have way more than enough natural world films – could somebody tell him to remain retired?

    2. Fedupsoutherner
      October 10, 2022

      Glenn. Along with Bill Gates, Elon Musk, Al Gore, the Beckhams and all footballers not forgetting anyone else that’s filthy rich.

  24. Ian B
    October 10, 2022

    Sir John, good morning.
    It nearly goes without saying, the UKā€™s World CO2 emissions are significantly higher than those you state.

    It comes over to the majority of us that Boris Johnson’s evangelist eco warrior stance was predicated on the more production that he moved out of the UK the more innocent the UK looked. In a World context the more we encourage China to profit from UK wealth the more the UK causes World CO2 to rise. In all probability in World consumption you could quadruple your figure and that would still be on the low side

    On the other hand it is the consistently dumb Governments we keep getting suckered into voting for had done their duty, ensured the UKā€™s resilience, safety and security in the first place we wouldnā€™t be having this conversation. With the creation of wealth, not Governments stealing it or redistributing to foreign climes, again we wouldnā€™t be having this conversation. In the UK the resources, the people and the capability exists to solving the situation facing all of us. The enemy of the people of the UK is its establishments, it Governments ā€“ they are all above reform.

    1. Ian B
      October 10, 2022

      In a related reflection of Government. The MsM today is pushing that all benefits raise by inflation. Logic, that means taxes need to rise to pay for it ā€“ causing an endless cycle of decline. In context Government refused Pensioners a similar rise earlier in the year and most of them are beyond working age as such unable to compensate and rebalance to make up the difference, so by default get punished. On the otherhand the majority receiving benefits have an option ā€“ but why work when the state(read taxpayer) pays you more not to.

      It would appear that Taxpayer funded entities/people are kept immune and donā€™t have to contribute equally to pulling the UK together to get out of this mess. Its Government and establishment orthodoxy that is causing pain and punishment on the people that pay their protected incomes.

      1. a-tracy
        October 10, 2022

        IanB the politicians appear to be only interested in the benefit claimants, the poor who didn’t buy their home when they were working, so need full housing benefits and didn’t save, so need pension credits, and many that didn’t pay in national insurance so get pension credits. The less you did to help yourself and your family the most rewards you get in retirement.

        I have an aunt in a housing association flat, there are only six of the flats with paying customers; the rest are on social; guess which ones are scared when they talk about redecorating the communal space and buying new washing machines? Guess which ones have cut off their water boilers and are washing in cold water or water from the kettle at the sink.

        1. Mickey Taking
          October 11, 2022

          Is it true that people living on longer term benefits get vet bills paid too?

          1. a-tracy
            October 12, 2022

            31 Mar 2017 ā€” If you’re on a low income or benefits and you have pets, you could be entitled to cheap or free vet fees. Money saving expert

            Worried about vet bills? You may get help from an animal charity – article in the Guardian 12 Feb 2022 ā€” To qualify, they must receive either universal credit (where there has not been a reduction in payment because of work or other income such a

  25. Bloke
    October 10, 2022

    UK immigration levels should be prevented and reversed. However, if CO2 is a world problem the nation reaching lowest per head achieves little more than a token Public Relations Award. A few folk on a remote island with tons over their head are a tiny drop in a distant ocean.

    Populations like China & India with some 2.8 billion inhabitants can make the greatest difference. If every nation on earth produced what it consumes solely at home clarity would reveal the wasters. Imports are essential, so assessors wander in confusing fog unable to cope with weights crushing their attempts at reduction from every direction.

  26. Keith from Leeds
    October 10, 2022

    CO2 is currently between 400 & 425 parts per million in the atmosphere.
    Health & Safety legislation states that you can work an 8-hour day in 5000 parts per million , then go home for a night’s sleep & do so again the next day, so 40 hours a week in that concentration of CO2.
    To kill us CO2 needs to be 100,000 parts per million in the atmosphere, though some negative effects would be felt from 50,000 parts per million upwards.
    All this information is easily available so why do you, Sir John, not check it out & then tell us & the government that CO2 is not a problem & never will be.

  27. Original Richard
    October 10, 2022

    ā€œMost forecasts believe the world will still be burning 100m b/d of oil in 2030, given the growth in fossil fuel based activities in the major developing countries.ā€

    The developed world will not have reduced its burning of fossil fuels by 2030 as it doesnā€™t have the technology in place to achieve a reduction unless their populations have accepted by then very expensive and intermittent renewable energy coupled with large demand reduction programs, such as rolling blackouts and no domestic gas for heating.

    The best way to achieve fossil fuel reductions is to use nuclear, but this technology has been discarded. If EDFā€™s Hinkley Point C, using its poorly performing EPR technology, fails to work then we will have no nuclear capacity all by the 2035 decarbonisation date.

  28. Mike Stallard
    October 10, 2022

    If the lights go out, if Alexa fails, if people cannot recharge their phones when they want to, then, Sir John, your seat in parliament will not be there for you after the next election.

    1. Mark B
      October 11, 2022

      On flip side they, the political class, just might get the message.

  29. Original Richard
    October 10, 2022

    There is no climate catastrophe/crisis/breakdown, anthropogenic or natural.

    There is no evidence that extreme weather is increasing – check the data rather than accepting the BBCā€™s hysterical reporting. Average global temperature (land & sea) measured by satellite by the UAH since 1979 is increasing by only 0.13 degrees C per decade.

    The climate models overestimate global warming because they are omitting to add the original energy from the sun as well as the feedback response from greenhouse gases into the input.

    The data on temperature and CO2 for the last 500 million years since the start of the Cambrian explosion shows that temperature does not follow CO2 levels in the atmosphere, both of which have been much higher than today. In fact the Antarctic Vostok Ice Core Data (450,000 years) and the Greenland Ice Core Data (11,000 years since the last ice age) show CO2 following temperature when both are at historically very low levels.

    Data from NASA of CO2 levels over the last 800,00 years shows that these have dropped 9 times (including at the last ice age just 11,000 years ago) to 180 ppm, just 30 ppm above the level below which plants, and hence all life on earth, cannot survive.

    The current level of CO2 is historically very low and should be trebled to reach the optimum required for plant and hence food growth.

  30. Christine
    October 10, 2022

    The debate should be had about whether CO2 is actually bad for the planet but of course, the green religious zealots shut down dissenters because their arguments don’t stand up to scrutiny. Just look at the recent Panorama program about the Drax power station causing prime Canadian forests to be felled to produce so-called green fuel. Or the ecological damage caused by mining the vast amounts of copper needed for the wind turbines. And, the child labour in Africa used to mine cobalt for batteries. Then we have the short life span of the wind turbine blades now filling up landfill sites.

    Scratch the surface and none of these so-called green energy solutions are really green.

    I say follow the money to find out who’s behind it all.

    Until we allow debate the charlatans will not be outed and our country will continue to sink into obscurity.

  31. Barbara
    October 10, 2022

    In a further windpower scandal, NetZeroWatch today has an article by tireless analyst Andrew Montford (Bishop Hill) showing how consumers are being charged twice for the same electricity.

  32. glen cullen
    October 10, 2022

    The data below is for the 24-hour period 00:00 to 23:59 09 October 2022.
    Number of migrants detected in small boats: 1065
    Number of boats detected: 25

    1. miami.mode
      October 10, 2022

      SNP members have recently said they welcome migrants.

      1. a-tracy
        October 11, 2022

        Scotland needs more young people. “Should the past trends in births, deaths and migration seen in Scotland continue, the analysis projects that by 2045 there will be 200,000 fewer children (a fall of 22%) and 300,000 more people over 65 (an increase of 30%).12 Jan 2022” NRS

        “Compared to England’s ranking as one of the most densely populated countries in Europe at 426 people per square kilometre, Scotland on average has under 70 citizens per square kilometre, down to just 8 in the Highlands!31 Mar 2021” Population matters.

      2. Mickey Taking
        October 11, 2022

        perhaps Sturgeon will provide the necessary boats to collect the people from Dover and take them up to Edinburgh?

  33. glen cullen
    October 10, 2022

    The world isnā€™t using less fossil fuels, its just that thereā€™s been a shift from some countries usage ā€“ Woke UN EU facing Socialist countries are using less, while Pragmatic Nationalist Capitalist countries are using more

  34. MikeP
    October 10, 2022

    You say you ā€œwant the UK to produce more of our own energy and have more energy intensive industry rather than importingā€ which is totally counter to the net zero zealots but probably what most people believe. The UNā€™s choice of CO2 measure excludes the CO2 needed to make what countries import. The only logical end to that is for everyone to stop importing and live off what they can grow or make which clearly favours countries with the largest natural resources. Itā€™s all a pointless exercise in political posturing, a great fat lie that young people gave swallowed hook line and sinker.

  35. The Prangwizard
    October 10, 2022

    When is your party in government going to DO SOMETHING and get governing. When is it going to order immediate drilling to get oil and gas out of the ground?

    Or is it intent on just pretending, and deferring, afraid of eco warriors and eco politicians in its own ranks?

    Party before country as usual.

  36. acorn
    October 10, 2022

    Have you noticed that the PR and marketing for the big fossil fuel outfits, are pushing the message that’s the customers of their products that are creating all this CO2, not the oil and gas drillers and refiners.

    Hence, consumption based CO2 accounting shows up those customers claiming low domestic emissions while importing significant percentages extra.
    https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/share-co2-embedded-in-trade

    1. Peter2
      October 10, 2022

      What an odd way of calculating CO2 responsibility acorn
      It’s almost as if there was another purpose to that methodology.
      Surely not..

    2. Mark B
      October 11, 2022

      Well they could always shutdown their business’s if they are that concerned. Not thet they would. Think of all those profits being lost.

  37. Javelin
    October 10, 2022

    Mass migration means more people emitting CO2. But the fact Government do not stop mass migration tells you that just like lockdowns nobody in power actually believes any of it.

  38. outsider
    October 10, 2022

    Dear Sir John:
    These figures are telling. If cutting CO2 emissions is the overiding goal, then focusing on populous countries with high per capita emissions (above 10 per cent) should be the main thrust of policy in the House of Commons, in the media and worldwide. Your case needs to be pressed.
    Given that these figures are widely available, one has to wonder what the true motivation is of those racing to achieve UK Net Zero in a world record time at the expense of ordinary UK people who are struggling anyway.
    There seems to be no attempt at joined-up policy. As others have said, there are many instances, from ceramics to wood pellects, where action to cut the UK’s carbon releases actually raises worldwide emissions, which is the only total relevant to climate change.
    On recent car (not terribly frequent) car journeys I have noticed that the most common obviously electric cars no longer seem to be Teslas but the much cheaper Chinese MGs. So we are importing cars from China that are almost certainly made by burning tons of cheap coal, for the obstensible purpose of cutting CO2 emissions. How can this be justified in any climate policy?

  39. outsider
    October 10, 2022

    Dear Sir John,
    In four weeks time the world’s television and press will be flying to Qatar ( which already appears to have the world’s highest per capita CO2 emissions) along with the world’s best football teams and richest sportlovers, for the World Cup. There are several instances of people claiming to boycott the proceedings, but these moral objections are about the Emirate’s human rights record in constructing the reportedy air-conditioned stadiums and hotels. So far as I know, climate change simply does not feature. I trust that none of those involved will be championing speedy UK Net Zero on their return.

    1. Fedupsoutherner
      October 10, 2022

      Outsider. Crazy isn’t it? I expect Gary Linekar to have something to say about this. He pokes his nose in all sorts of places it’s not wanted.

    2. glen cullen
      October 10, 2022

      i’m sure that the FA is already planning a ‘tree planting’ event to off-set the world cup

    3. a-tracy
      October 10, 2022

      Outsider are there any plans to have the matchs for people to watch in our UK stadiums together?

      1. outsider
        October 11, 2022

        Dear a-tracey,
        Sadly not as far as I can see from google. Only pubs and a hotel in Birmingham .

  40. Ian B
    October 10, 2022

    CO2 levels on Planet Earth are the same now as it was before human inhabitants, it cant be increased or removed. All that happens is it gets locked=up, released and moved from on place to another.

    In the same vein if we lock CO2 up, all the Vegans will die due to lack of food (You need to think about thatā€¦.)

    1. hefner
      October 18, 2022

      Funny you say that. It clearly contradicts what Original Richard has been saying for months ā€¦

  41. Ian B
    October 10, 2022

    The way UK Governments go about manipulating the population through tax is deplorable and generally shows a lack of honesty.

    The UK taxpayer has to fund numerous eco projects, through direct taxation, levies and so on. Yet those that send their goods to the UK, those that have taken UK jobs get a free pass. They donā€™t contribute to UK wealth, infrastructure, security and sustainability on the same equitable basis as the indigenous people and its commerce. While at the same time heaping more punishment on the UK taxpayer in demands to reduce internal UK CO2

  42. Pauline Baxter
    October 10, 2022

    For heaven’s sake Sir John. Well, I suppose you have to go along with the current ‘religion’ of ‘CO2 is BAD’ !!
    You are probably well aware that without carbon dioxide there would be no life of any sort on planet earth.
    You are probably also aware of photosynthesis, whereby plants absorb carbon dioxide and give out oxygen.
    So you probably understand that if there is an increase in the amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere there will be an increase in the amount of plant life and plant food, to feed humans and other animals, which breathe in oxygen and breathe out carbon dioxide. I.e. a win/win, situation.

    ‘Nuff said’?

    Oh, you are probably also well read enough to know, that genuine science finds that no unusual global warming, or climate change has occurred for thousands of years. You have previously pointed out that the problem has been particulates, which the U.K. has led the world in reducing.
    Just think, if the climate did get warmer we would need less energy to heat our homes!

  43. Enigma
    October 10, 2022

    Iā€™ve just signed an open letter to the Health Secretary – Apologise, Reinstate, Compensate 40000 Care Workers Forced Out By COVID Jab Mandate

  44. a-tracy
    October 10, 2022

    Hereā€™s a few suggestions for saving waste CO2 offer it as a lower cost alternative
    Stop burning coffins (if indeed they are burned!).
    Make more efficient use of the ovens, youā€™re going to have to save energy soon anyway or people wonā€™t be able to afford the cremations. Canā€™t cremations be used to create energy to be self financing?
    Develop the cryogenics faster (cryomation).
    It wonā€™t suit everybody but making funerals unaffordable and not trying to reduce the waste is going to cause problems too.

    The tubes and braking systems can create energy it should be harnessed better as it is on some lines.

    1. Mickey Taking
      October 11, 2022

      I have often wondered whether after the curtains are closed and the deceased makes the short journey onward does a sort of tipper mechanism, like that deployed on dustcarts, dispense the body to the furnace and the coffin gets recycled? A nice little earner – or a dystopian horror?

      1. a-tracy
        October 12, 2022

        MT – I find it hard to believe expensive coffins made of oak, maple etc. are just burnt and not relined. They cost from Ā£1500 to over Ā£6500. Also, how much longer would they take to burn I know it’s gruesome but it’s because people don’t like to talk about it that no-one gets to know and things just go on as always. I used to go to school near a crem. the smoke only ever was seen from the chimneys on Mondays, a rumour went around that they saved up the bodies and only burned them once per week together, it was quickly quashed by the crematorium, and we were told to behave by the Head. It has given me a big curiosity about it ever since.

        I had a friend that didn’t have enough money to pay for a full funeral, so she had a Ā£900 funeral, no coffin, no crem or church service, no cars or flowers, just a celebration of life service on a Sunday afternoon, with music, a celebrant, and food so all her family didn’t have to take time off work.

  45. Fedupsoutherner
    October 10, 2022

    So we now have owners of luxury hotels in places like Tintagel in Cornwall being approached by government agencies to rent the whole hotel for illegal immigrants for a year. Not content with that they want the staff sacked. Just what is going on?

    600 Dutch farmers are being forced to sell their farms to the Dutch government due to a…….’nitrogen’ problem. There is definitely something sinister going on in the Western world.

    1. Mitchel
      October 11, 2022

      Vladimir Putin has been saying that for many years.You really should listen to his speeches,NOT western media/security service propaganda interpretations of them.

      The real reason for the Ukraine war will then be revealed to you.

    2. a-tracy
      October 11, 2022

      FuS, perhaps the hotel owner would be more willing to take the elderly bed blockers from Cornwall who just need to recuperate through the winter so that wards are freed up for medical care.

  46. Joey Vimsante
    October 11, 2022

    I think Greta Thunberg is very informed on climate change. I hope we can save humanity, the environment and prosperity.
    The global warming issue is very important.

    1. glen cullen
      October 11, 2022

      Youā€™re not suppose to use the term ā€˜global warmingā€™ as the PR team at the UN said it doesnā€™t resonant well with the youth & politicians ā€¦so please use ā€˜climate changeā€™ in future

      1. hefner
        October 18, 2022

        nasa.gov ā€˜Whatā€™s in a name? Global warming vs. climate changeā€™, 12/05/2008 ā€¦ and funnily enough there is nothing about the UN, youth or politicians in that historical explanation.

  47. Lindsay McDougall
    October 11, 2022

    I have proposed in the past – and I still think it’s a good idea – that countries running a ‘dirty economy’ should have an extra tariff slapped on their exports. I proposed that it should be based on the amount of coal burnt in relation to the value of their physical exports. The running cost (not capital cost) of converting coal fired power stations to ‘clean coal’ would be divided by the financial value of the country’s exports and the minimum additional tariff would be the former divided by the latter.

    It could alternatively be based on the amount of CO2 emitted divided by the value of the country’s physical exports, provided that the figures were reliable.

    Neither measure will happen unless one or more nations make a coherent and well argued presentation to the World Trade Organisation, together with details of the calculation for at least one country.

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